Canadian Politics Redux

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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    I'm getting drunk on conservative/trudeau-hater tears. lol
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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    Voted this morning. Took me about 2 minutes, no line.

    Voted Liberal. Might be the first time voting liberal, can't remember who I voted for last time.

    I usually vote NDP but not a fan of Singh and the NDP candidate here is a name on ballot student. At least the Liberal candidate is a serious person.

    Doesn't matter in my riding anyways. Always conservative by a landslide.

    Anyways, congrats Liberals. I'm fine with status quo.
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    Now that the election is over wait for shit to hit the fan politically here in Alberta.

    Kenny is in deep shit.
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    PPC haven’t won any seats yet, and I haven’t read closely enough to hear if they are projected to pick up any. 
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  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,905
    absolutely nothings changed.....

    a little part of me wanted see Trudeau lose to the hubris of calling an election that was unneeded.  Canadians don't believe in any party enough to give the a majority, and that wasn't changing anytime soon.

    Aside from that I was kind of meh.  I don't really believe in any of the parties enough to feel one is some kind of clear winner.   Country just went with the, he might not be great, he might actually be an idiot, but he's our idiot, and he's the best we got... lol.   I would tend to agree with that.
  • Spunkie
    Spunkie i come from downtown. Posts: 7,095
    ^ My daughter aptly wondered: when will humanity change?


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  • Spunkie
    Spunkie i come from downtown. Posts: 7,095
    edited September 2021
    .
    I was swimming in the Great Barrier Reef 
    Animals were hiding behind the Coral 
    Except for little Turtle
    I could swear he's trying to talk to me 
    Gurgle Gurgle
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    https://torontosun.com/news/election-2021/liberal-monsef-ousted-in-southern-ontario-upset/wcm/67aabe70-b635-40fd-8244-19dad4deede4/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

    Liberal Monsef ousted in southern Ontario upset


    Maybe this dummie can join her Taliban brothers in Afghanistan…

     

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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    The PPC did not win any seats, which means Bernier failed to win his seat, but they did increase their share of the vote to around 5%, up from less than 2% in the last election. Even without the win in seats experts say that vote splitting likely still cost the conservatives some seats.

    From the CBC: The party, which describes itself as populist, classically liberal and libertarian, was founded by Bernier in 2018. It campaigned on lifting many COVID-19 public health restrictions, as well as expanding the oil and gas industry, balancing the budget, ending official multiculturalism, and reducing immigration levels, among other policies.

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/peoples-party-election-2021-1.6182680

    Funny how I disagree with virtually every aspect of their platform. 
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    edited September 2021
    oftenreading said:
    The PPC did not win any seats, which means Bernier failed to win his seat, but they did increase their share of the vote to around 5%, up from less than 2% in the last election. Even without the win in seats experts say that vote splitting likely still cost the conservatives some seats.

    From the CBC: The party, which describes itself as populist, classically liberal and libertarian, was founded by Bernier in 2018. It campaigned on lifting many COVID-19 public health restrictions, as well as expanding the oil and gas industry, balancing the budget, ending official multiculturalism, and reducing immigration levels, among other policies.

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/peoples-party-election-2021-1.6182680

    Funny how I disagree with virtually every aspect of their platform. 
    "ending official multiculturalism" is a good one. jesus. and trudeau is the racist one. hahahaha
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    This election featured the lowest voter turnout in history, Trudeau is re-elected PM with the lowest percentage of the 32% app, and the conservatives won the popular vote.

    This country needs electoral reform, there is no incentive for the liberals to introduce electoral reform.  But it’s needed.


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  • Nami
    Nami Newfoundland Posts: 5,999
    Total waste of money and time.
    Hamilton 9-13-05; Toronto 5-9-06, Toronto 8-21-09, Toronto 9-12-11, Hamilton 9-15-11....
  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,905
    Meltdown99 said:
    This election featured the lowest voter turnout in history, Trudeau is re-elected PM with the lowest percentage of the 32% app, and the conservatives won the popular vote.

    This country needs electoral reform, there is no incentive for the liberals to introduce electoral reform.  But it’s needed.


    I think that's a misnomer.   I think changing from first past the post to prop. rep would probably require constitutional amendment, which I believe requires and overwhelming majority of the provinces to sign off on.   We don't all tend to get a long, and when government tries to start messing with the constitution, then everyone wants to add more stuff into it.

    Any time I see a politician campaign on electoral reform I roll my eyes, because I don't think it's in their power to do it.

    Also the last time we had a prop rep referendum here in BC they made too many options.    If anyone went for it, I think it should be straightforward and simple.   Pure PR, not hybrid stuff.

    It's cute that people think their MLA or MP has any kind of power in parliament.  Once they get elected their nothing but a vote for the person in power and their agenda.   I don't think we actually need local MLA or MP's because they don't really do much.

    I'm not sure what would of happened if the Cons got power.   The Libs/NDP seem pretty left of centre right now, so could that of worked?   Would the NDP/Libs have attempted to form a coalition and run the country regardless.

    I think the fundamental challenge there is the Cons mostly represent the views of the prairies with a handful of other pockets of support across the country.   If the country as a whole supported them their vote wouldn't be so concentrated in a few areas.

    All in all this country doesn't overwhelmingly support any of the parties or their leaders.   We're still waiting for a better option.

  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739

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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    i'd say over a third of the vote with 5 major parties is to be expected. get rid of that garbage BQ party and it's a different story entirely. 
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739

    Give Peas A Chance…
  • erebus
    erebus Posts: 616
    edited September 2021
    I would say the Cons have become a sort of Prairie Bloc party.
    like Quebec, they want to dictate to the majority of the country 
    flawed or not, most seats rule at the moment 

    electoral reform, online voting and even mandatory voting should all be considered 

    I have no problems with having whatever and however many parties you want, but you have to get the majority of the people (or whatever factor you use to determine a winner) to support you
    2 Greens,(and all minority parties)shouldn’t be demanding things. Listened to, yes, but they did not win. Win and do what you like
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    2021 Federal General Election

    https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/federal-election-2021/results-map

    The conservative are a national party and have won seats in every province.  They were shut out in the territories…but I don’t think 1 political party won seats in every province or territory.  Let me know when the bloc win seats outside Quebec and wins the popular vote count…

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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/winnipeg-student-reprimanded-o-canada-wfpcbc-cbc-1.6179258

    good for her. playing the anthem in schools is nothing but patriotic indoctrination anyway. 
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739

    Poll workers say Elections Canada put them at risk of contracting COVID-19


    Hopefully poll workers don’t get Covid…
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