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Jearlpam0925 said:mrussel1 said:JB16057 said:gimmesometruth27 said:mrussel1 said:gimmesometruth27 said:mrussel1 said:The Juggler said:Gern Blansten said:gimmesometruth27 said:what is fueling it is the fact that nobody, NOBODY has been held accountable. not trump, not gaetz, not gosar, not maggie 3 names, not boebert. none of the people that led the insurrection. also, the insurrectionists that did face justice got slaps on the wrist.
i heard someone say something like nazism was defeated in ww2.
well i guess hitler dying is similar to trump being voted out of office. but the way nazism was defeated was nazi leadership were held accountable, or they committed suicide.
maga has ashli babbitt now, who is the maga equivalent of horst wessel.
maga is festering and growing because nobody has been held to account, and it is much of a failure of the doj as it is the fault of trump, flynn, the my pillow guy, fox news, oann, and the people that encouraged the insurrection that i listed earlier.
with no accountability this is going to get worse.
I don't know the answer.
these people hate liberals more than they love their own family and their country.
you keep telling someone how bad things are, ie fox news to their viewers every night, sooner or later more and more and more will believe that message, and the more who believe, the more will act on it. see jan 6.Hatred goes both ways though. Take this site for example. There is so much hatred towards the GOP, Conservatives and Republicans and most of it is the same hysterics as what you see on FOX just in reverse. Sure this site doesn't get near the amount of attention but CNN, MSNBC and plenty of other major news outlets spew hatred all day long.Something needs to change with the economy. Inflation is out of control right now and I don't see either side of the aisle doing anything about it.
That's to the guy you were responding to. As to your point s, I overall agree with you albeit our issues with our country are not in regards to financial markets. Our biggest issues are housing, healthcare, and other social welfare net systems. But that's for another thread.0 -
mrussel1 said:JB16057 said:gimmesometruth27 said:mrussel1 said:gimmesometruth27 said:mrussel1 said:The Juggler said:Gern Blansten said:gimmesometruth27 said:what is fueling it is the fact that nobody, NOBODY has been held accountable. not trump, not gaetz, not gosar, not maggie 3 names, not boebert. none of the people that led the insurrection. also, the insurrectionists that did face justice got slaps on the wrist.
i heard someone say something like nazism was defeated in ww2.
well i guess hitler dying is similar to trump being voted out of office. but the way nazism was defeated was nazi leadership were held accountable, or they committed suicide.
maga has ashli babbitt now, who is the maga equivalent of horst wessel.
maga is festering and growing because nobody has been held to account, and it is much of a failure of the doj as it is the fault of trump, flynn, the my pillow guy, fox news, oann, and the people that encouraged the insurrection that i listed earlier.
with no accountability this is going to get worse.
I don't know the answer.
these people hate liberals more than they love their own family and their country.
you keep telling someone how bad things are, ie fox news to their viewers every night, sooner or later more and more and more will believe that message, and the more who believe, the more will act on it. see jan 6.Hatred goes both ways though. Take this site for example. There is so much hatred towards the GOP, Conservatives and Republicans and most of it is the same hysterics as what you see on FOX just in reverse. Sure this site doesn't get near the amount of attention but CNN, MSNBC and plenty of other major news outlets spew hatred all day long.Something needs to change with the economy. Inflation is out of control right now and I don't see either side of the aisle doing anything about it."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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JB16057 said:gimmesometruth27 said:mrussel1 said:gimmesometruth27 said:mrussel1 said:The Juggler said:Gern Blansten said:gimmesometruth27 said:what is fueling it is the fact that nobody, NOBODY has been held accountable. not trump, not gaetz, not gosar, not maggie 3 names, not boebert. none of the people that led the insurrection. also, the insurrectionists that did face justice got slaps on the wrist.
i heard someone say something like nazism was defeated in ww2.
well i guess hitler dying is similar to trump being voted out of office. but the way nazism was defeated was nazi leadership were held accountable, or they committed suicide.
maga has ashli babbitt now, who is the maga equivalent of horst wessel.
maga is festering and growing because nobody has been held to account, and it is much of a failure of the doj as it is the fault of trump, flynn, the my pillow guy, fox news, oann, and the people that encouraged the insurrection that i listed earlier.
with no accountability this is going to get worse.
I don't know the answer.
these people hate liberals more than they love their own family and their country.
you keep telling someone how bad things are, ie fox news to their viewers every night, sooner or later more and more and more will believe that message, and the more who believe, the more will act on it. see jan 6.Hatred goes both ways though. Take this site for example. There is so much hatred towards the GOP, Conservatives and Republicans and most of it is the same hysterics as what you see on FOX just in reverse. Sure this site doesn't get near the amount of attention but CNN, MSNBC and plenty of other major news outlets spew hatred all day long.Something needs to change with the economy. Inflation is out of control right now and I don't see either side of the aisle doing anything about it.
are you complaining that a band that is known for having left wing politics has a majority of posters on their forum having similar politics?
it is not hatred. it is being sick of how one party. the minority party, is slowing progress out of hatred and spite, and the inability to lose like adults. they know they cannot win elections on policy, so they cheat and gerrymander their districts, and have medial outlets that brainwash them into being skeptical of common sense and reason. most of us are fucking sick of it.
from what i can tell, at least cnn and msnbc at least report news when it is unfavorable to democrats. look at the coverage of biden's afghanistan withdrawl. those two organizations actively tried to tank the entire biden administration.
i am not sure what you are referencing about the economy needing to change. all things considered, in the middle of a nearly 2 year pandemic, we are doing pretty well. in spite of the efforts of the republican party to burn it all down."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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JB16057 said:gimmesometruth27 said:mrussel1 said:gimmesometruth27 said:mrussel1 said:The Juggler said:Gern Blansten said:gimmesometruth27 said:what is fueling it is the fact that nobody, NOBODY has been held accountable. not trump, not gaetz, not gosar, not maggie 3 names, not boebert. none of the people that led the insurrection. also, the insurrectionists that did face justice got slaps on the wrist.
i heard someone say something like nazism was defeated in ww2.
well i guess hitler dying is similar to trump being voted out of office. but the way nazism was defeated was nazi leadership were held accountable, or they committed suicide.
maga has ashli babbitt now, who is the maga equivalent of horst wessel.
maga is festering and growing because nobody has been held to account, and it is much of a failure of the doj as it is the fault of trump, flynn, the my pillow guy, fox news, oann, and the people that encouraged the insurrection that i listed earlier.
with no accountability this is going to get worse.
I don't know the answer.
these people hate liberals more than they love their own family and their country.
you keep telling someone how bad things are, ie fox news to their viewers every night, sooner or later more and more and more will believe that message, and the more who believe, the more will act on it. see jan 6.Hatred goes both ways though. Take this site for example. There is so much hatred towards the GOP, Conservatives and Republicans and most of it is the same hysterics as what you see on FOX just in reverse. Sure this site doesn't get near the amount of attention but CNN, MSNBC and plenty of other major news outlets spew hatred all day long.Something needs to change with the economy. Inflation is out of control right now and I don't see either side of the aisle doing anything about it.
I don't know how many people here actually hate all GOP, cons, republicans. But you damn sure can say you see a lot of all-encompassing hate for liberals, all over the place. Even in canada (as evidenced in the canadian politics thread).
how often do you hear people say the phrase "what's wrong with the left is..." as opposed to the opposite? I'd say a helluva lot more.
and no one on CNN or MSNBC, for all their faults, are encouraging people, for example, to go around and forcibly put masks on people's faces. that shit is all right wing nonsense.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
mrussel1 said:Jearlpam0925 said:mrussel1 said:JB16057 said:gimmesometruth27 said:mrussel1 said:gimmesometruth27 said:mrussel1 said:The Juggler said:Gern Blansten said:gimmesometruth27 said:what is fueling it is the fact that nobody, NOBODY has been held accountable. not trump, not gaetz, not gosar, not maggie 3 names, not boebert. none of the people that led the insurrection. also, the insurrectionists that did face justice got slaps on the wrist.
i heard someone say something like nazism was defeated in ww2.
well i guess hitler dying is similar to trump being voted out of office. but the way nazism was defeated was nazi leadership were held accountable, or they committed suicide.
maga has ashli babbitt now, who is the maga equivalent of horst wessel.
maga is festering and growing because nobody has been held to account, and it is much of a failure of the doj as it is the fault of trump, flynn, the my pillow guy, fox news, oann, and the people that encouraged the insurrection that i listed earlier.
with no accountability this is going to get worse.
I don't know the answer.
these people hate liberals more than they love their own family and their country.
you keep telling someone how bad things are, ie fox news to their viewers every night, sooner or later more and more and more will believe that message, and the more who believe, the more will act on it. see jan 6.Hatred goes both ways though. Take this site for example. There is so much hatred towards the GOP, Conservatives and Republicans and most of it is the same hysterics as what you see on FOX just in reverse. Sure this site doesn't get near the amount of attention but CNN, MSNBC and plenty of other major news outlets spew hatred all day long.Something needs to change with the economy. Inflation is out of control right now and I don't see either side of the aisle doing anything about it.
That's to the guy you were responding to. As to your point s, I overall agree with you albeit our issues with our country are not in regards to financial markets. Our biggest issues are housing, healthcare, and other social welfare net systems. But that's for another thread.Post edited by Jearlpam0925 on0 -
Jearlpam0925 said:mrussel1 said:Jearlpam0925 said:mrussel1 said:JB16057 said:gimmesometruth27 said:mrussel1 said:gimmesometruth27 said:mrussel1 said:The Juggler said:Gern Blansten said:gimmesometruth27 said:what is fueling it is the fact that nobody, NOBODY has been held accountable. not trump, not gaetz, not gosar, not maggie 3 names, not boebert. none of the people that led the insurrection. also, the insurrectionists that did face justice got slaps on the wrist.
i heard someone say something like nazism was defeated in ww2.
well i guess hitler dying is similar to trump being voted out of office. but the way nazism was defeated was nazi leadership were held accountable, or they committed suicide.
maga has ashli babbitt now, who is the maga equivalent of horst wessel.
maga is festering and growing because nobody has been held to account, and it is much of a failure of the doj as it is the fault of trump, flynn, the my pillow guy, fox news, oann, and the people that encouraged the insurrection that i listed earlier.
with no accountability this is going to get worse.
I don't know the answer.
these people hate liberals more than they love their own family and their country.
you keep telling someone how bad things are, ie fox news to their viewers every night, sooner or later more and more and more will believe that message, and the more who believe, the more will act on it. see jan 6.Hatred goes both ways though. Take this site for example. There is so much hatred towards the GOP, Conservatives and Republicans and most of it is the same hysterics as what you see on FOX just in reverse. Sure this site doesn't get near the amount of attention but CNN, MSNBC and plenty of other major news outlets spew hatred all day long.Something needs to change with the economy. Inflation is out of control right now and I don't see either side of the aisle doing anything about it.
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The Juggler said:I doubt it will be anywhere near a 16 point margin, but still should be a safe win for Newsom tonight...and then the republicans will continue their Big Lie (which they started once they started getting polling numbers a couple weeks ago)
So after all that fuss, turns out the republicans racked up an unnecessary $300,000,000 bill just to get their asses handed to them again.www.myspace.com0 -
The Juggler said:The Juggler said:I doubt it will be anywhere near a 16 point margin, but still should be a safe win for Newsom tonight...and then the republicans will continue their Big Lie (which they started once they started getting polling numbers a couple weeks ago)
So after all that fuss, turns out the republicans racked up an unnecessary $300,000,000 bill just to get their asses handed to them again.
I need some major races again, I've got money burning a hole in my pocket in my PredictIt account.0 -
Jearlpam0925 said:The Juggler said:The Juggler said:I doubt it will be anywhere near a 16 point margin, but still should be a safe win for Newsom tonight...and then the republicans will continue their Big Lie (which they started once they started getting polling numbers a couple weeks ago)
So after all that fuss, turns out the republicans racked up an unnecessary $300,000,000 bill just to get their asses handed to them again.
I need some major races again, I've got money burning a hole in my pocket in my PredictIt account.'05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2
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Jearlpam0925 said:mrussel1 said:Jearlpam0925 said:mrussel1 said:JB16057 said:gimmesometruth27 said:mrussel1 said:gimmesometruth27 said:mrussel1 said:The Juggler said:Gern Blansten said:gimmesometruth27 said:what is fueling it is the fact that nobody, NOBODY has been held accountable. not trump, not gaetz, not gosar, not maggie 3 names, not boebert. none of the people that led the insurrection. also, the insurrectionists that did face justice got slaps on the wrist.
i heard someone say something like nazism was defeated in ww2.
well i guess hitler dying is similar to trump being voted out of office. but the way nazism was defeated was nazi leadership were held accountable, or they committed suicide.
maga has ashli babbitt now, who is the maga equivalent of horst wessel.
maga is festering and growing because nobody has been held to account, and it is much of a failure of the doj as it is the fault of trump, flynn, the my pillow guy, fox news, oann, and the people that encouraged the insurrection that i listed earlier.
with no accountability this is going to get worse.
I don't know the answer.
these people hate liberals more than they love their own family and their country.
you keep telling someone how bad things are, ie fox news to their viewers every night, sooner or later more and more and more will believe that message, and the more who believe, the more will act on it. see jan 6.Hatred goes both ways though. Take this site for example. There is so much hatred towards the GOP, Conservatives and Republicans and most of it is the same hysterics as what you see on FOX just in reverse. Sure this site doesn't get near the amount of attention but CNN, MSNBC and plenty of other major news outlets spew hatred all day long.Something needs to change with the economy. Inflation is out of control right now and I don't see either side of the aisle doing anything about it.
That's to the guy you were responding to. As to your point s, I overall agree with you albeit our issues with our country are not in regards to financial markets. Our biggest issues are housing, healthcare, and other social welfare net systems. But that's for another thread.0 -
benjs said:Jearlpam0925 said:The Juggler said:The Juggler said:I doubt it will be anywhere near a 16 point margin, but still should be a safe win for Newsom tonight...and then the republicans will continue their Big Lie (which they started once they started getting polling numbers a couple weeks ago)
So after all that fuss, turns out the republicans racked up an unnecessary $300,000,000 bill just to get their asses handed to them again.
I need some major races again, I've got money burning a hole in my pocket in my PredictIt account.
I don't even see them trotting out the rigged election shit since it was such a trouncing.www.myspace.com0 -
Ya know, after listening to 538's pod and with all this ridiculous rhetoric, we're absolutely going to see more recall elections from the Right, and most likely overall. The Right will always have a higher chance of gaining state legislation numbers (due to lower turnout in those elections; my usual reminder for you all to run for local office!) and when they do they'll bully through whatever they want for no other reason than not wanting to be governed by the other side.0
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HughFreakingDillon said:JB16057 said:gimmesometruth27 said:mrussel1 said:gimmesometruth27 said:mrussel1 said:The Juggler said:Gern Blansten said:gimmesometruth27 said:what is fueling it is the fact that nobody, NOBODY has been held accountable. not trump, not gaetz, not gosar, not maggie 3 names, not boebert. none of the people that led the insurrection. also, the insurrectionists that did face justice got slaps on the wrist.
i heard someone say something like nazism was defeated in ww2.
well i guess hitler dying is similar to trump being voted out of office. but the way nazism was defeated was nazi leadership were held accountable, or they committed suicide.
maga has ashli babbitt now, who is the maga equivalent of horst wessel.
maga is festering and growing because nobody has been held to account, and it is much of a failure of the doj as it is the fault of trump, flynn, the my pillow guy, fox news, oann, and the people that encouraged the insurrection that i listed earlier.
with no accountability this is going to get worse.
I don't know the answer.
these people hate liberals more than they love their own family and their country.
you keep telling someone how bad things are, ie fox news to their viewers every night, sooner or later more and more and more will believe that message, and the more who believe, the more will act on it. see jan 6.Hatred goes both ways though. Take this site for example. There is so much hatred towards the GOP, Conservatives and Republicans and most of it is the same hysterics as what you see on FOX just in reverse. Sure this site doesn't get near the amount of attention but CNN, MSNBC and plenty of other major news outlets spew hatred all day long.Something needs to change with the economy. Inflation is out of control right now and I don't see either side of the aisle doing anything about it.
I don't know how many people here actually hate all GOP, cons, republicans. But you damn sure can say you see a lot of all-encompassing hate for liberals, all over the place. Even in canada (as evidenced in the canadian politics thread).
how often do you hear people say the phrase "what's wrong with the left is..." as opposed to the opposite? I'd say a helluva lot more.
and no one on CNN or MSNBC, for all their faults, are encouraging people, for example, to go around and forcibly put masks on people's faces. that shit is all right wing nonsense.Let's not conflate disagreement, frustration, or even disgust, with hatred.I disagree with many people, on the right and on the left. But I miss the "good old days" when it was possible to have a vigorous yet respectful debate. I miss the days when one could debate the "how," not the "what," e,g., "how to address climate change," vs. "is climate change a Chinese hoax?"I am frustrated by the people who refuse to wear masks, get vaccinated, and take basic steps to keep themselves and others safe. Do I hate them? Do I wish them misery and a painful death? Am I protesting in the streets, screaming for vengeance and violence against them? No. Mainly, I am just exhausted by them.I am disgusted by certain loud voices in the media and in politics, who are willfully misleading their audiences, sowing hatred, fear, and lies, encouraging violence, and practicing hypocrisy writ large (Tucker Carlson, along with 90% of Fox News employees, is vaccinated). They are endangering others both directly and indirectly, encouraging the spread of the virus and slowing our recovery, all in the name of, what? Power? Ratings? Money? All of the above? They are reprehensible, despicable people, deserving of my disgust. Do I hate them? Do I giggle to myself, imagining sending them death threats and wishing violence upon them? No, I do not.I can and do say with a clear conscience that disgust and shunning are proper, appropriate responses to people who are actively engaged in spreading lies and disease and rending the social fabric. That's not the same as hatred, and it is intellectually lazy and disingenuous to suggest that hatred and disgust are one and the same.I don't send death threats to officials with whom I disagree. I don't invade public buildings, beat police officers, and shit on the floor. When I attend protests or demonstrations -- lawful, permitted ones -- my signs are family-friendly, and I don't have assault weapons strapped on my back. I don't salivate at the thought of widespread unrest, violence, or civil war.PJ is a left-leaning band. Many, most?, of their followers have similar viewpoints. "I disagree with most people on here" =/= "So much hate"All those who seek to destroy the liberties of a democratic nation ought to know that war is the surest and shortest means to accomplish it.0 -
That was not directed at @HughFreakingDillon but rather the up-thread commenter.
All those who seek to destroy the liberties of a democratic nation ought to know that war is the surest and shortest means to accomplish it.0 -
curmudgeoness said:HughFreakingDillon said:JB16057 said:gimmesometruth27 said:mrussel1 said:gimmesometruth27 said:mrussel1 said:The Juggler said:Gern Blansten said:gimmesometruth27 said:what is fueling it is the fact that nobody, NOBODY has been held accountable. not trump, not gaetz, not gosar, not maggie 3 names, not boebert. none of the people that led the insurrection. also, the insurrectionists that did face justice got slaps on the wrist.
i heard someone say something like nazism was defeated in ww2.
well i guess hitler dying is similar to trump being voted out of office. but the way nazism was defeated was nazi leadership were held accountable, or they committed suicide.
maga has ashli babbitt now, who is the maga equivalent of horst wessel.
maga is festering and growing because nobody has been held to account, and it is much of a failure of the doj as it is the fault of trump, flynn, the my pillow guy, fox news, oann, and the people that encouraged the insurrection that i listed earlier.
with no accountability this is going to get worse.
I don't know the answer.
these people hate liberals more than they love their own family and their country.
you keep telling someone how bad things are, ie fox news to their viewers every night, sooner or later more and more and more will believe that message, and the more who believe, the more will act on it. see jan 6.Hatred goes both ways though. Take this site for example. There is so much hatred towards the GOP, Conservatives and Republicans and most of it is the same hysterics as what you see on FOX just in reverse. Sure this site doesn't get near the amount of attention but CNN, MSNBC and plenty of other major news outlets spew hatred all day long.Something needs to change with the economy. Inflation is out of control right now and I don't see either side of the aisle doing anything about it.
I don't know how many people here actually hate all GOP, cons, republicans. But you damn sure can say you see a lot of all-encompassing hate for liberals, all over the place. Even in canada (as evidenced in the canadian politics thread).
how often do you hear people say the phrase "what's wrong with the left is..." as opposed to the opposite? I'd say a helluva lot more.
and no one on CNN or MSNBC, for all their faults, are encouraging people, for example, to go around and forcibly put masks on people's faces. that shit is all right wing nonsense.Let's not conflate disagreement, frustration, or even disgust, with hatred.I disagree with many people, on the right and on the left. But I miss the "good old days" when it was possible to have a vigorous yet respectful debate. I miss the days when one could debate the "how," not the "what," e,g., "how to address climate change," vs. "is climate change a Chinese hoax?"I am frustrated by the people who refuse to wear masks, get vaccinated, and take basic steps to keep themselves and others safe. Do I hate them? Do I wish them misery and a painful death? Am I protesting in the streets, screaming for vengeance and violence against them? No. Mainly, I am just exhausted by them.I am disgusted by certain loud voices in the media and in politics, who are willfully misleading their audiences, sowing hatred, fear, and lies, encouraging violence, and practicing hypocrisy writ large (Tucker Carlson, along with 90% of Fox News employees, is vaccinated). They are endangering others both directly and indirectly, encouraging the spread of the virus and slowing our recovery, all in the name of, what? Power? Ratings? Money? All of the above? They are reprehensible, despicable people, deserving of my disgust. Do I hate them? Do I giggle to myself, imagining sending them death threats and wishing violence upon them? No, I do not.I can and do say with a clear conscience that disgust and shunning are proper, appropriate responses to people who are actively engaged in spreading lies and disease and rending the social fabric. That's not the same as hatred, and it is intellectually lazy and disingenuous to suggest that hatred and disgust are one and the same.I don't send death threats to officials with whom I disagree. I don't invade public buildings, beat police officers, and shit on the floor. When I attend protests or demonstrations -- lawful, permitted ones -- my signs are family-friendly, and I don't have assault weapons strapped on my back. I don't salivate at the thought of widespread unrest, violence, or civil war.PJ is a left-leaning band. Many, most?, of their followers have similar viewpoints. "I disagree with most people on here" =/= "So much hate"Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
HughFreakingDillon said:curmudgeoness said:HughFreakingDillon said:JB16057 said:gimmesometruth27 said:mrussel1 said:gimmesometruth27 said:mrussel1 said:The Juggler said:Gern Blansten said:gimmesometruth27 said:what is fueling it is the fact that nobody, NOBODY has been held accountable. not trump, not gaetz, not gosar, not maggie 3 names, not boebert. none of the people that led the insurrection. also, the insurrectionists that did face justice got slaps on the wrist.
i heard someone say something like nazism was defeated in ww2.
well i guess hitler dying is similar to trump being voted out of office. but the way nazism was defeated was nazi leadership were held accountable, or they committed suicide.
maga has ashli babbitt now, who is the maga equivalent of horst wessel.
maga is festering and growing because nobody has been held to account, and it is much of a failure of the doj as it is the fault of trump, flynn, the my pillow guy, fox news, oann, and the people that encouraged the insurrection that i listed earlier.
with no accountability this is going to get worse.
I don't know the answer.
these people hate liberals more than they love their own family and their country.
you keep telling someone how bad things are, ie fox news to their viewers every night, sooner or later more and more and more will believe that message, and the more who believe, the more will act on it. see jan 6.Hatred goes both ways though. Take this site for example. There is so much hatred towards the GOP, Conservatives and Republicans and most of it is the same hysterics as what you see on FOX just in reverse. Sure this site doesn't get near the amount of attention but CNN, MSNBC and plenty of other major news outlets spew hatred all day long.Something needs to change with the economy. Inflation is out of control right now and I don't see either side of the aisle doing anything about it.
I don't know how many people here actually hate all GOP, cons, republicans. But you damn sure can say you see a lot of all-encompassing hate for liberals, all over the place. Even in canada (as evidenced in the canadian politics thread).
how often do you hear people say the phrase "what's wrong with the left is..." as opposed to the opposite? I'd say a helluva lot more.
and no one on CNN or MSNBC, for all their faults, are encouraging people, for example, to go around and forcibly put masks on people's faces. that shit is all right wing nonsense.Let's not conflate disagreement, frustration, or even disgust, with hatred.I disagree with many people, on the right and on the left. But I miss the "good old days" when it was possible to have a vigorous yet respectful debate. I miss the days when one could debate the "how," not the "what," e,g., "how to address climate change," vs. "is climate change a Chinese hoax?"I am frustrated by the people who refuse to wear masks, get vaccinated, and take basic steps to keep themselves and others safe. Do I hate them? Do I wish them misery and a painful death? Am I protesting in the streets, screaming for vengeance and violence against them? No. Mainly, I am just exhausted by them.I am disgusted by certain loud voices in the media and in politics, who are willfully misleading their audiences, sowing hatred, fear, and lies, encouraging violence, and practicing hypocrisy writ large (Tucker Carlson, along with 90% of Fox News employees, is vaccinated). They are endangering others both directly and indirectly, encouraging the spread of the virus and slowing our recovery, all in the name of, what? Power? Ratings? Money? All of the above? They are reprehensible, despicable people, deserving of my disgust. Do I hate them? Do I giggle to myself, imagining sending them death threats and wishing violence upon them? No, I do not.I can and do say with a clear conscience that disgust and shunning are proper, appropriate responses to people who are actively engaged in spreading lies and disease and rending the social fabric. That's not the same as hatred, and it is intellectually lazy and disingenuous to suggest that hatred and disgust are one and the same.I don't send death threats to officials with whom I disagree. I don't invade public buildings, beat police officers, and shit on the floor. When I attend protests or demonstrations -- lawful, permitted ones -- my signs are family-friendly, and I don't have assault weapons strapped on my back. I don't salivate at the thought of widespread unrest, violence, or civil war.PJ is a left-leaning band. Many, most?, of their followers have similar viewpoints. "I disagree with most people on here" =/= "So much hate"
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The Juggler said:HughFreakingDillon said:curmudgeoness said:HughFreakingDillon said:JB16057 said:gimmesometruth27 said:mrussel1 said:gimmesometruth27 said:mrussel1 said:The Juggler said:Gern Blansten said:gimmesometruth27 said:what is fueling it is the fact that nobody, NOBODY has been held accountable. not trump, not gaetz, not gosar, not maggie 3 names, not boebert. none of the people that led the insurrection. also, the insurrectionists that did face justice got slaps on the wrist.
i heard someone say something like nazism was defeated in ww2.
well i guess hitler dying is similar to trump being voted out of office. but the way nazism was defeated was nazi leadership were held accountable, or they committed suicide.
maga has ashli babbitt now, who is the maga equivalent of horst wessel.
maga is festering and growing because nobody has been held to account, and it is much of a failure of the doj as it is the fault of trump, flynn, the my pillow guy, fox news, oann, and the people that encouraged the insurrection that i listed earlier.
with no accountability this is going to get worse.
I don't know the answer.
these people hate liberals more than they love their own family and their country.
you keep telling someone how bad things are, ie fox news to their viewers every night, sooner or later more and more and more will believe that message, and the more who believe, the more will act on it. see jan 6.Hatred goes both ways though. Take this site for example. There is so much hatred towards the GOP, Conservatives and Republicans and most of it is the same hysterics as what you see on FOX just in reverse. Sure this site doesn't get near the amount of attention but CNN, MSNBC and plenty of other major news outlets spew hatred all day long.Something needs to change with the economy. Inflation is out of control right now and I don't see either side of the aisle doing anything about it.
I don't know how many people here actually hate all GOP, cons, republicans. But you damn sure can say you see a lot of all-encompassing hate for liberals, all over the place. Even in canada (as evidenced in the canadian politics thread).
how often do you hear people say the phrase "what's wrong with the left is..." as opposed to the opposite? I'd say a helluva lot more.
and no one on CNN or MSNBC, for all their faults, are encouraging people, for example, to go around and forcibly put masks on people's faces. that shit is all right wing nonsense.Let's not conflate disagreement, frustration, or even disgust, with hatred.I disagree with many people, on the right and on the left. But I miss the "good old days" when it was possible to have a vigorous yet respectful debate. I miss the days when one could debate the "how," not the "what," e,g., "how to address climate change," vs. "is climate change a Chinese hoax?"I am frustrated by the people who refuse to wear masks, get vaccinated, and take basic steps to keep themselves and others safe. Do I hate them? Do I wish them misery and a painful death? Am I protesting in the streets, screaming for vengeance and violence against them? No. Mainly, I am just exhausted by them.I am disgusted by certain loud voices in the media and in politics, who are willfully misleading their audiences, sowing hatred, fear, and lies, encouraging violence, and practicing hypocrisy writ large (Tucker Carlson, along with 90% of Fox News employees, is vaccinated). They are endangering others both directly and indirectly, encouraging the spread of the virus and slowing our recovery, all in the name of, what? Power? Ratings? Money? All of the above? They are reprehensible, despicable people, deserving of my disgust. Do I hate them? Do I giggle to myself, imagining sending them death threats and wishing violence upon them? No, I do not.I can and do say with a clear conscience that disgust and shunning are proper, appropriate responses to people who are actively engaged in spreading lies and disease and rending the social fabric. That's not the same as hatred, and it is intellectually lazy and disingenuous to suggest that hatred and disgust are one and the same.I don't send death threats to officials with whom I disagree. I don't invade public buildings, beat police officers, and shit on the floor. When I attend protests or demonstrations -- lawful, permitted ones -- my signs are family-friendly, and I don't have assault weapons strapped on my back. I don't salivate at the thought of widespread unrest, violence, or civil war.PJ is a left-leaning band. Many, most?, of their followers have similar viewpoints. "I disagree with most people on here" =/= "So much hate"
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Jearlpam0925 said:The Juggler said:HughFreakingDillon said:curmudgeoness said:HughFreakingDillon said:JB16057 said:gimmesometruth27 said:mrussel1 said:gimmesometruth27 said:mrussel1 said:The Juggler said:Gern Blansten said:gimmesometruth27 said:what is fueling it is the fact that nobody, NOBODY has been held accountable. not trump, not gaetz, not gosar, not maggie 3 names, not boebert. none of the people that led the insurrection. also, the insurrectionists that did face justice got slaps on the wrist.
i heard someone say something like nazism was defeated in ww2.
well i guess hitler dying is similar to trump being voted out of office. but the way nazism was defeated was nazi leadership were held accountable, or they committed suicide.
maga has ashli babbitt now, who is the maga equivalent of horst wessel.
maga is festering and growing because nobody has been held to account, and it is much of a failure of the doj as it is the fault of trump, flynn, the my pillow guy, fox news, oann, and the people that encouraged the insurrection that i listed earlier.
with no accountability this is going to get worse.
I don't know the answer.
these people hate liberals more than they love their own family and their country.
you keep telling someone how bad things are, ie fox news to their viewers every night, sooner or later more and more and more will believe that message, and the more who believe, the more will act on it. see jan 6.Hatred goes both ways though. Take this site for example. There is so much hatred towards the GOP, Conservatives and Republicans and most of it is the same hysterics as what you see on FOX just in reverse. Sure this site doesn't get near the amount of attention but CNN, MSNBC and plenty of other major news outlets spew hatred all day long.Something needs to change with the economy. Inflation is out of control right now and I don't see either side of the aisle doing anything about it.
I don't know how many people here actually hate all GOP, cons, republicans. But you damn sure can say you see a lot of all-encompassing hate for liberals, all over the place. Even in canada (as evidenced in the canadian politics thread).
how often do you hear people say the phrase "what's wrong with the left is..." as opposed to the opposite? I'd say a helluva lot more.
and no one on CNN or MSNBC, for all their faults, are encouraging people, for example, to go around and forcibly put masks on people's faces. that shit is all right wing nonsense.Let's not conflate disagreement, frustration, or even disgust, with hatred.I disagree with many people, on the right and on the left. But I miss the "good old days" when it was possible to have a vigorous yet respectful debate. I miss the days when one could debate the "how," not the "what," e,g., "how to address climate change," vs. "is climate change a Chinese hoax?"I am frustrated by the people who refuse to wear masks, get vaccinated, and take basic steps to keep themselves and others safe. Do I hate them? Do I wish them misery and a painful death? Am I protesting in the streets, screaming for vengeance and violence against them? No. Mainly, I am just exhausted by them.I am disgusted by certain loud voices in the media and in politics, who are willfully misleading their audiences, sowing hatred, fear, and lies, encouraging violence, and practicing hypocrisy writ large (Tucker Carlson, along with 90% of Fox News employees, is vaccinated). They are endangering others both directly and indirectly, encouraging the spread of the virus and slowing our recovery, all in the name of, what? Power? Ratings? Money? All of the above? They are reprehensible, despicable people, deserving of my disgust. Do I hate them? Do I giggle to myself, imagining sending them death threats and wishing violence upon them? No, I do not.I can and do say with a clear conscience that disgust and shunning are proper, appropriate responses to people who are actively engaged in spreading lies and disease and rending the social fabric. That's not the same as hatred, and it is intellectually lazy and disingenuous to suggest that hatred and disgust are one and the same.I don't send death threats to officials with whom I disagree. I don't invade public buildings, beat police officers, and shit on the floor. When I attend protests or demonstrations -- lawful, permitted ones -- my signs are family-friendly, and I don't have assault weapons strapped on my back. I don't salivate at the thought of widespread unrest, violence, or civil war.PJ is a left-leaning band. Many, most?, of their followers have similar viewpoints. "I disagree with most people on here" =/= "So much hate"
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What was that about both sides spewing hate again? Can anyone give a dem equivalent of the below? Anyone? I won’t hold my breath for the repub condemnation. “Great people on both sides,” and all. I’m paywalled out but the headline says it all.
09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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mrussel1 said:Jearlpam0925 said:The Juggler said:HughFreakingDillon said:curmudgeoness said:HughFreakingDillon said:JB16057 said:gimmesometruth27 said:mrussel1 said:gimmesometruth27 said:mrussel1 said:The Juggler said:Gern Blansten said:gimmesometruth27 said:what is fueling it is the fact that nobody, NOBODY has been held accountable. not trump, not gaetz, not gosar, not maggie 3 names, not boebert. none of the people that led the insurrection. also, the insurrectionists that did face justice got slaps on the wrist.
i heard someone say something like nazism was defeated in ww2.
well i guess hitler dying is similar to trump being voted out of office. but the way nazism was defeated was nazi leadership were held accountable, or they committed suicide.
maga has ashli babbitt now, who is the maga equivalent of horst wessel.
maga is festering and growing because nobody has been held to account, and it is much of a failure of the doj as it is the fault of trump, flynn, the my pillow guy, fox news, oann, and the people that encouraged the insurrection that i listed earlier.
with no accountability this is going to get worse.
I don't know the answer.
these people hate liberals more than they love their own family and their country.
you keep telling someone how bad things are, ie fox news to their viewers every night, sooner or later more and more and more will believe that message, and the more who believe, the more will act on it. see jan 6.Hatred goes both ways though. Take this site for example. There is so much hatred towards the GOP, Conservatives and Republicans and most of it is the same hysterics as what you see on FOX just in reverse. Sure this site doesn't get near the amount of attention but CNN, MSNBC and plenty of other major news outlets spew hatred all day long.Something needs to change with the economy. Inflation is out of control right now and I don't see either side of the aisle doing anything about it.
I don't know how many people here actually hate all GOP, cons, republicans. But you damn sure can say you see a lot of all-encompassing hate for liberals, all over the place. Even in canada (as evidenced in the canadian politics thread).
how often do you hear people say the phrase "what's wrong with the left is..." as opposed to the opposite? I'd say a helluva lot more.
and no one on CNN or MSNBC, for all their faults, are encouraging people, for example, to go around and forcibly put masks on people's faces. that shit is all right wing nonsense.Let's not conflate disagreement, frustration, or even disgust, with hatred.I disagree with many people, on the right and on the left. But I miss the "good old days" when it was possible to have a vigorous yet respectful debate. I miss the days when one could debate the "how," not the "what," e,g., "how to address climate change," vs. "is climate change a Chinese hoax?"I am frustrated by the people who refuse to wear masks, get vaccinated, and take basic steps to keep themselves and others safe. Do I hate them? Do I wish them misery and a painful death? Am I protesting in the streets, screaming for vengeance and violence against them? No. Mainly, I am just exhausted by them.I am disgusted by certain loud voices in the media and in politics, who are willfully misleading their audiences, sowing hatred, fear, and lies, encouraging violence, and practicing hypocrisy writ large (Tucker Carlson, along with 90% of Fox News employees, is vaccinated). They are endangering others both directly and indirectly, encouraging the spread of the virus and slowing our recovery, all in the name of, what? Power? Ratings? Money? All of the above? They are reprehensible, despicable people, deserving of my disgust. Do I hate them? Do I giggle to myself, imagining sending them death threats and wishing violence upon them? No, I do not.I can and do say with a clear conscience that disgust and shunning are proper, appropriate responses to people who are actively engaged in spreading lies and disease and rending the social fabric. That's not the same as hatred, and it is intellectually lazy and disingenuous to suggest that hatred and disgust are one and the same.I don't send death threats to officials with whom I disagree. I don't invade public buildings, beat police officers, and shit on the floor. When I attend protests or demonstrations -- lawful, permitted ones -- my signs are family-friendly, and I don't have assault weapons strapped on my back. I don't salivate at the thought of widespread unrest, violence, or civil war.PJ is a left-leaning band. Many, most?, of their followers have similar viewpoints. "I disagree with most people on here" =/= "So much hate"
One of these days it would be nice to see someone of the opposing viewpoint make a similar post instead of drive-by insults or memes
What barriers to class movement have repubs removed? Since Reagan ("government is the problem")?09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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