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Will it have been worth it to have owned libs?
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HughFreakingDillon said:Halifax2TheMax said:HughFreakingDillon said:Halifax2TheMax said:HughFreakingDillon said:I think we all know by now that, while it makes for a good laugh, it's not just a livestock drug. it's used in humans all the time to treat parasites. But people are taking it in the wrong doses, because they are buying it without an Rx.I think more research should be done to rule it out or give it the go-ahead as a possible treatment.Those that are actually going to the vet and dosing themselves are idiots, though.Funny thing…I know a few potheads that swear their weed is the cure…should they be lumped in with the same idiots?We’ll know in a few years after long term trials I supposePost edited by PJPOWER on0
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PJPOWER said:HughFreakingDillon said:Halifax2TheMax said:HughFreakingDillon said:Halifax2TheMax said:HughFreakingDillon said:I think we all know by now that, while it makes for a good laugh, it's not just a livestock drug. it's used in humans all the time to treat parasites. But people are taking it in the wrong doses, because they are buying it without an Rx.I think more research should be done to rule it out or give it the go-ahead as a possible treatment.Those that are actually going to the vet and dosing themselves are idiots, though.Funny thing…I know a few potheads that swear their weed is the cure…should they be lumped in with the same idiots?We’ll know in a few years after long term trials I suppose0
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Well, bleach and water can sanitize your hands and kill ecoli and salmonella. Might as well inject it.
https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/why-you-should-not-use-ivermectin-treat-or-prevent-covid-19
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PJPOWER said:HughFreakingDillon said:Halifax2TheMax said:HughFreakingDillon said:Halifax2TheMax said:HughFreakingDillon said:I think we all know by now that, while it makes for a good laugh, it's not just a livestock drug. it's used in humans all the time to treat parasites. But people are taking it in the wrong doses, because they are buying it without an Rx.I think more research should be done to rule it out or give it the go-ahead as a possible treatment.Those that are actually going to the vet and dosing themselves are idiots, though.Funny thing…I know a few potheads that swear their weed is the cure…should they be lumped in with the same idiots?We’ll know in a few years after long term trials I suppose
"'He was so hard-headed,' Jessica [his wife] said. "'He didn't want to see a doctor, because he didn't want to be part of the statistics with COVID tests.'
"'Caleb instead began taking tablets of ivermectin (an anti-parasitic medicine the U.S. Food and Drug Administration has since urged people not to take for COVID-19), high doses of Vitamin C, zinc aspirin, and an inhaler. By July 30, however, Caleb was taken by a relative to the emergency room at Shannon Medical Center.'"
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Ivermectin tablets are approved by the FDA to treat people with intestinal strongyloidiasis and onchocerciasis, two conditions caused by parasitic worms. In addition, some topical (on the skin) forms of ivermectin are approved to treat external parasites like head lice and for skin conditions such as rosacea.
Not seeing much about it being an anti-viral in there. I do shoot insulin to help treat my high blood pressure. I'm not dead, so it must be working.0 -
To be fair to the woman that sued the hospital, I suppose desperate times for call desperate measures. It looks like her husband is on his last legs and she's throwing up a hail mary. Whether it's responsible for the doctor to prescribe it (he did) is another question.
But there's a huge uptick in calls to poison control. People are having sypmptoms such as blindness in the morning. And they won't get vaccinated? And let's not pretend Ivermectin isn't owned by a big corporation. They're eschewing big Pharma in favor of big Farma.
What's even behind these cures/antidotes? It used to be Hydrochloruqine (or whatever) and now it's Ivermectin. Is it some weird GOP or Q conspiracy to make it look like Science/Doctors/Dems/Libs are all trying to keep the pandemic going by hiding cures? Or is that just the power of internet rumor mills? Maybe I could share with my 75 Twitter followers that a drink of one party Coke, two-parts OJ, and 4 parts goat urine will cure Covid and a couple months from now, everyone with goats is getting rich selling urine?1995 Milwaukee 1998 Alpine, Alpine 2003 Albany, Boston, Boston, Boston 2004 Boston, Boston 2006 Hartford, St. Paul (Petty), St. Paul (Petty) 2011 Alpine, Alpine
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OnWis97 said:To be fair to the woman that sued the hospital, I suppose desperate times for call desperate measures. It looks like her husband is on his last legs and she's throwing up a hail mary. Whether it's responsible for the doctor to prescribe it (he did) is another question.
But there's a huge uptick in calls to poison control. People are having sypmptoms such as blindness in the morning. And they won't get vaccinated? And let's not pretend Ivermectin isn't owned by a big corporation. They're eschewing big Pharma in favor of big Farma.
What's even behind these cures/antidotes? It used to be Hydrochloruqine (or whatever) and now it's Ivermectin. Is it some weird GOP or Q conspiracy to make it look like Science/Doctors/Dems/Libs are all trying to keep the pandemic going by hiding cures? Or is that just the power of internet rumor mills? Maybe I could share with my 75 Twitter followers that a drink of one party Coke, two-parts OJ, and 4 parts goat urine will cure Covid and a couple months from now, everyone with goats is getting rich selling urine?09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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HughFreakingDillon said:Halifax2TheMax said:HughFreakingDillon said:Halifax2TheMax said:HughFreakingDillon said:I think we all know by now that, while it makes for a good laugh, it's not just a livestock drug. it's used in humans all the time to treat parasites. But people are taking it in the wrong doses, because they are buying it without an Rx.0
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OnWis97 said:
What's even behind these cures/antidotes? It used to be Hydrochloruqine (or whatever) and now it's Ivermectin. Is it some weird GOP or Q conspiracy to make it look like Science/Doctors/Dems/Libs are all trying to keep the pandemic going by hiding cures? Or is that just the power of internet rumor mills? Maybe I could share with my 75 Twitter followers that a drink of one party Coke, two-parts OJ, and 4 parts goat urine will cure Covid and a couple months from now, everyone with goats is getting rich selling urine?
https://thehill.com/homenews/569975-rand-paul-hatred-for-trump-blocking-research-into-ivermectin
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OnWis97 said:OnWis97 said:
What's even behind these cures/antidotes? It used to be Hydrochloruqine (or whatever) and now it's Ivermectin. Is it some weird GOP or Q conspiracy to make it look like Science/Doctors/Dems/Libs are all trying to keep the pandemic going by hiding cures? Or is that just the power of internet rumor mills? Maybe I could share with my 75 Twitter followers that a drink of one party Coke, two-parts OJ, and 4 parts goat urine will cure Covid and a couple months from now, everyone with goats is getting rich selling urine?
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mrussel1 said:Ivermectin tablets are approved by the FDA to treat people with intestinal strongyloidiasis and onchocerciasis, two conditions caused by parasitic worms. In addition, some topical (on the skin) forms of ivermectin are approved to treat external parasites like head lice and for skin conditions such as rosacea.
Not seeing much about it being an anti-viral in there. I do shoot insulin to help treat my high blood pressure. I'm not dead, so it must be working.There are some studies out there that seem to suggest antiviral and anti inflammatory properties, but I think those got way hyped, and the jury is out as to whether or not people could benefit from that. I, for one, see no harm in other avenues for treatment being explored by researchers (since it appears the virus is going to be with us for a loooong time). Do not misconstrue that to mean I think people should be taking it without the research being more conclusive or on their own accord…https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/04/08/ivermectin-covid-drug/
The below article sums up things pretty well:
Here is a the part that does annoy me to no end:
“But the United States has lagged behind in conducting such trials because of the fragmentation of the health-care system and the lack of financial incentive for pharmaceutical companies to continue to do research on old, cheap drugs.”
To play the devil’s advocate, for the “but it’s for horses” crowd… Warfarin is a drug that was initially created as rat poison and is now readily used as an anticoagulant in humansPost edited by PJPOWER on0 -
Merkin Baller said:HughFreakingDillon said:Halifax2TheMax said:HughFreakingDillon said:Halifax2TheMax said:HughFreakingDillon said:I think we all know by now that, while it makes for a good laugh, it's not just a livestock drug. it's used in humans all the time to treat parasites. But people are taking it in the wrong doses, because they are buying it without an Rx.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0
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Bentleyspop said:PJPOWER said:HughFreakingDillon said:Halifax2TheMax said:HughFreakingDillon said:Halifax2TheMax said:HughFreakingDillon said:I think we all know by now that, while it makes for a good laugh, it's not just a livestock drug. it's used in humans all the time to treat parasites. But people are taking it in the wrong doses, because they are buying it without an Rx.I think more research should be done to rule it out or give it the go-ahead as a possible treatment.Those that are actually going to the vet and dosing themselves are idiots, though.Funny thing…I know a few potheads that swear their weed is the cure…should they be lumped in with the same idiots?We’ll know in a few years after long term trials I suppose
"'He was so hard-headed,' Jessica [his wife] said. "'He didn't want to see a doctor, because he didn't want to be part of the statistics with COVID tests.'
"'Caleb instead began taking tablets of ivermectin (an anti-parasitic medicine the U.S. Food and Drug Administration has since urged people not to take for COVID-19), high doses of Vitamin C, zinc aspirin, and an inhaler. By July 30, however, Caleb was taken by a relative to the emergency room at Shannon Medical Center.'"
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PJPOWER said:mrussel1 said:Ivermectin tablets are approved by the FDA to treat people with intestinal strongyloidiasis and onchocerciasis, two conditions caused by parasitic worms. In addition, some topical (on the skin) forms of ivermectin are approved to treat external parasites like head lice and for skin conditions such as rosacea.
Not seeing much about it being an anti-viral in there. I do shoot insulin to help treat my high blood pressure. I'm not dead, so it must be working.There are some studies out there that seem to suggest antiviral and anti inflammatory properties, but I think those got way hyped, and the jury is out as to whether or not people could benefit from that. I, for one, see no harm in other avenues for treatment being explored by researchers (since it appears the virus is going to be with us for a loooong time). Do not misconstrue that to mean I think people should be taking it without the research being more conclusive or on their own accord…https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/04/08/ivermectin-covid-drug/
The below article sums up things pretty well:
Here is a the part that does annoy me to no end:
“But the United States has lagged behind in conducting such trials because of the fragmentation of the health-care system and the lack of financial incentive for pharmaceutical companies to continue to do research on old, cheap drugs.”
To play the devil’s advocate, for the “but it’s for horses” crowd… Warfarin is a drug that was initially created as rat poison and is now readily used as an anticoagulant in humans0 -
mrussel1 said:PJPOWER said:mrussel1 said:Ivermectin tablets are approved by the FDA to treat people with intestinal strongyloidiasis and onchocerciasis, two conditions caused by parasitic worms. In addition, some topical (on the skin) forms of ivermectin are approved to treat external parasites like head lice and for skin conditions such as rosacea.
Not seeing much about it being an anti-viral in there. I do shoot insulin to help treat my high blood pressure. I'm not dead, so it must be working.There are some studies out there that seem to suggest antiviral and anti inflammatory properties, but I think those got way hyped, and the jury is out as to whether or not people could benefit from that. I, for one, see no harm in other avenues for treatment being explored by researchers (since it appears the virus is going to be with us for a loooong time). Do not misconstrue that to mean I think people should be taking it without the research being more conclusive or on their own accord…https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/04/08/ivermectin-covid-drug/
The below article sums up things pretty well:
Here is a the part that does annoy me to no end:
“But the United States has lagged behind in conducting such trials because of the fragmentation of the health-care system and the lack of financial incentive for pharmaceutical companies to continue to do research on old, cheap drugs.”
To play the devil’s advocate, for the “but it’s for horses” crowd… Warfarin is a drug that was initially created as rat poison and is now readily used as an anticoagulant in humans0 -
OnWis97 said:OnWis97 said:
What's even behind these cures/antidotes? It used to be Hydrochloruqine (or whatever) and now it's Ivermectin. Is it some weird GOP or Q conspiracy to make it look like Science/Doctors/Dems/Libs are all trying to keep the pandemic going by hiding cures? Or is that just the power of internet rumor mills? Maybe I could share with my 75 Twitter followers that a drink of one party Coke, two-parts OJ, and 4 parts goat urine will cure Covid and a couple months from now, everyone with goats is getting rich selling urine?
https://thehill.com/homenews/569975-rand-paul-hatred-for-trump-blocking-research-into-ivermectin
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