Viruses / Vaccines

mrussel1

Ledbetterman10 said:

cincybearcat said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

CM189191 said:

https://www.sorryantivaxxer.com/

What a fucking morbid website. I mean, I get it. These people were against the vaccine, and died of COVID. The website says "The goal of this list is educational." Yeah sure. That may be a goal. Other goals include ridiculing and shaming dead people, and rubbing salt in the wounds of their friends and family. Who's really going to be visiting that website? Anti-vaxxers who are going to be educated by it and decide to get the vaccine because of it? Or people that revel in the deaths of these anti-vaxxers? 

I find it hard to care about anti-vaxers that die that had a platform and used it to get other people to not get vaccinated (and wear masks).  Cause their negative impact is far beyond just their death.

I don't feel good about it, but more of a..."well that makes sense" pragmatism.  Not shocking, terrible that they have also led others to their deaths, and then move on and forget about them.

You may not feel good about it....but here's little sample of a comment section below one of the dead anti-vaxxers.....

Celebrating death is cruel.  At the same time, news stories about prominent anti-vaxxers and denialists are important.  Publicizing bad choices that lead to bad outcomes can lead some people to better decisions.. hopefully. 

tempo_n_groove

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Maybe everyone is getting their info from this clinical study?
https://journals.lww.com/americantherapeutics/fulltext/2021/08000/ivermectin_for_prevention_and_treatment_of.7.aspx

So I saw this before and I think it should continue to be studied, but there are real problems with the studies noted:

1. Even though there are multiple trials, they are very small.  Many of them are under 100 people.  That's like a 95/5/5 confidence interval.  Those numbers are fine for business, but not health.  

2. No peer review

3. The conclusion is that there is moderate to compelling evidence that the dewormer can effectively TREAT cases, and prevent them from advancing to severe cases.  There's nothing in here that I saw that it is a sub for the vaccine, which both reduces your likelihood to catch AND advance COVID.  

4. Last, there were only 6 people with severe covid that were given the treatment.  I did not see anything about the result, but at that number, it doesn't matter.  The results are random.

I agree. It's the only place where I found info for the trials so I guess this is what everyone is running with?  I know there is a youtube video but haven't watched it because we all know how those things go...

Ledbetterman10

mrussel1 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

cincybearcat said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

CM189191 said:

https://www.sorryantivaxxer.com/

What a fucking morbid website. I mean, I get it. These people were against the vaccine, and died of COVID. The website says "The goal of this list is educational." Yeah sure. That may be a goal. Other goals include ridiculing and shaming dead people, and rubbing salt in the wounds of their friends and family. Who's really going to be visiting that website? Anti-vaxxers who are going to be educated by it and decide to get the vaccine because of it? Or people that revel in the deaths of these anti-vaxxers? 

I find it hard to care about anti-vaxers that die that had a platform and used it to get other people to not get vaccinated (and wear masks).  Cause their negative impact is far beyond just their death.

I don't feel good about it, but more of a..."well that makes sense" pragmatism.  Not shocking, terrible that they have also led others to their deaths, and then move on and forget about them.

You may not feel good about it....but here's little sample of a comment section below one of the dead anti-vaxxers.....

Celebrating death is cruel.  At the same time, news stories about prominent anti-vaxxers and denialists are important.  Publicizing bad choices that lead to bad outcomes can lead some people to better decisions.. hopefully. 

That might be true. In fact, this comment section that I posted is for the death of a conservative radio host. But I think random person that made a facebook post is different than someone like him with a real platform, and that's what most of the people on that site are. 

dankind

Play stupid games ...

gimmesometruth27

Ledbetterman10 said:

mrussel1 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

cincybearcat said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

CM189191 said:

https://www.sorryantivaxxer.com/

What a fucking morbid website. I mean, I get it. These people were against the vaccine, and died of COVID. The website says "The goal of this list is educational." Yeah sure. That may be a goal. Other goals include ridiculing and shaming dead people, and rubbing salt in the wounds of their friends and family. Who's really going to be visiting that website? Anti-vaxxers who are going to be educated by it and decide to get the vaccine because of it? Or people that revel in the deaths of these anti-vaxxers? 

I find it hard to care about anti-vaxers that die that had a platform and used it to get other people to not get vaccinated (and wear masks).  Cause their negative impact is far beyond just their death.

I don't feel good about it, but more of a..."well that makes sense" pragmatism.  Not shocking, terrible that they have also led others to their deaths, and then move on and forget about them.

You may not feel good about it....but here's little sample of a comment section below one of the dead anti-vaxxers.....

Celebrating death is cruel.  At the same time, news stories about prominent anti-vaxxers and denialists are important.  Publicizing bad choices that lead to bad outcomes can lead some people to better decisions.. hopefully. 

That might be true. In fact, this comment section that I posted is for the death of a conservative radio host. But I think random person that made a facebook post is different than someone like him with a real platform, and that's what most of the people on that site are. 

the misinformation that this guy put on his radio show likely got other people killed. to me, that is unforgivable.

to be frank, i have no sympathy for him. none.

Bentleyspop

gimmesometruth27 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

mrussel1 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

cincybearcat said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

CM189191 said:

https://www.sorryantivaxxer.com/

What a fucking morbid website. I mean, I get it. These people were against the vaccine, and died of COVID. The website says "The goal of this list is educational." Yeah sure. That may be a goal. Other goals include ridiculing and shaming dead people, and rubbing salt in the wounds of their friends and family. Who's really going to be visiting that website? Anti-vaxxers who are going to be educated by it and decide to get the vaccine because of it? Or people that revel in the deaths of these anti-vaxxers? 

I find it hard to care about anti-vaxers that die that had a platform and used it to get other people to not get vaccinated (and wear masks).  Cause their negative impact is far beyond just their death.

I don't feel good about it, but more of a..."well that makes sense" pragmatism.  Not shocking, terrible that they have also led others to their deaths, and then move on and forget about them.

You may not feel good about it....but here's little sample of a comment section below one of the dead anti-vaxxers.....

Celebrating death is cruel.  At the same time, news stories about prominent anti-vaxxers and denialists are important.  Publicizing bad choices that lead to bad outcomes can lead some people to better decisions.. hopefully. 

That might be true. In fact, this comment section that I posted is for the death of a conservative radio host. But I think random person that made a facebook post is different than someone like him with a real platform, and that's what most of the people on that site are. 

the misinformation that this guy put on his radio show likely got other people killed. to me, that is unforgivable.

to be frank, i have no sympathy for him. none.

I'm with you.
I have no sympathy for people who are anti-mask/vaxx and then die from their choices 
I have even less sympathy for the people in public positions, i.e. radio hosts, TV heads, politicians, religious leaders who are public about being anti-mask/vaxx and then die.
Too bad.
Your body your choice

gimmesometruth27

Bentleyspop said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

mrussel1 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

cincybearcat said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

CM189191 said:

https://www.sorryantivaxxer.com/

What a fucking morbid website. I mean, I get it. These people were against the vaccine, and died of COVID. The website says "The goal of this list is educational." Yeah sure. That may be a goal. Other goals include ridiculing and shaming dead people, and rubbing salt in the wounds of their friends and family. Who's really going to be visiting that website? Anti-vaxxers who are going to be educated by it and decide to get the vaccine because of it? Or people that revel in the deaths of these anti-vaxxers? 

I find it hard to care about anti-vaxers that die that had a platform and used it to get other people to not get vaccinated (and wear masks).  Cause their negative impact is far beyond just their death.

I don't feel good about it, but more of a..."well that makes sense" pragmatism.  Not shocking, terrible that they have also led others to their deaths, and then move on and forget about them.

You may not feel good about it....but here's little sample of a comment section below one of the dead anti-vaxxers.....

Celebrating death is cruel.  At the same time, news stories about prominent anti-vaxxers and denialists are important.  Publicizing bad choices that lead to bad outcomes can lead some people to better decisions.. hopefully. 

That might be true. In fact, this comment section that I posted is for the death of a conservative radio host. But I think random person that made a facebook post is different than someone like him with a real platform, and that's what most of the people on that site are. 

the misinformation that this guy put on his radio show likely got other people killed. to me, that is unforgivable.

to be frank, i have no sympathy for him. none.

I'm with you.
I have no sympathy for people who are anti-mask/vaxx and then die from their choices 
I have even less sympathy for the people in public positions, i.e. radio hosts, TV heads, politicians, religious leaders who are public about being anti-mask/vaxx and then die.
Too bad.
Your body your choice

"BUt mY MediCAl frEEdOm!!!!!!!!!!"

curmudgeoness

Halifax2TheMax said:

OnWis97 said:

What's even behind these cures/antidotes? It used to be Hydrochloruqine (or whatever) and now it's Ivermectin. Is it some weird GOP or Q conspiracy to make it look like Science/Doctors/Dems/Libs are all trying to keep the pandemic going by hiding cures? Or is that just the power of internet rumor mills? Maybe I could share with my 75 Twitter followers that a drink of one party Coke, two-parts OJ, and 4 parts goat urine will cure Covid and a couple months from now, everyone with goats is getting rich selling urine?

Follow the money.

For what it's worth: thirty-odd years ago, I found myself in the former Soviet Union, a land where the infrastructure was in far worse shape than ours (think potholes big enough to swallow a Yugo). Doctor never were held in high regard in the USSR -- word was (I never looked into this -- it was widely accepted as true, but I can't vouch for it) that bus drivers were paid better than doctors, so medicine was not attracting the best and brightest. At any rate, in the aftermath of the fall of the Soviet Union, people's distrust of doctors made them turn from medicine to folk remedies -- grasses, herbs, homeopathic medicine, large quantities of alcohol, astrology, etc. Granted, the state of medicine/ health care was atrocious, but I saw a blanket rejection of medications in favor of herbal remedies.

Ever since then, I've taken a rise in folk remedies and conspiracies and a rejection of "science" to indicate a fraying of the social fabric.

But that's just my take on things,

Merkin Baller

Bentleyspop said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

mrussel1 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

cincybearcat said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

CM189191 said:

https://www.sorryantivaxxer.com/

What a fucking morbid website. I mean, I get it. These people were against the vaccine, and died of COVID. The website says "The goal of this list is educational." Yeah sure. That may be a goal. Other goals include ridiculing and shaming dead people, and rubbing salt in the wounds of their friends and family. Who's really going to be visiting that website? Anti-vaxxers who are going to be educated by it and decide to get the vaccine because of it? Or people that revel in the deaths of these anti-vaxxers? 

I find it hard to care about anti-vaxers that die that had a platform and used it to get other people to not get vaccinated (and wear masks).  Cause their negative impact is far beyond just their death.

I don't feel good about it, but more of a..."well that makes sense" pragmatism.  Not shocking, terrible that they have also led others to their deaths, and then move on and forget about them.

You may not feel good about it....but here's little sample of a comment section below one of the dead anti-vaxxers.....

Celebrating death is cruel.  At the same time, news stories about prominent anti-vaxxers and denialists are important.  Publicizing bad choices that lead to bad outcomes can lead some people to better decisions.. hopefully. 

That might be true. In fact, this comment section that I posted is for the death of a conservative radio host. But I think random person that made a facebook post is different than someone like him with a real platform, and that's what most of the people on that site are. 

the misinformation that this guy put on his radio show likely got other people killed. to me, that is unforgivable.

to be frank, i have no sympathy for him. none.

I'm with you.
I have no sympathy for people who are anti-mask/vaxx and then die from their choices 
I have even less sympathy for the people in public positions, i.e. radio hosts, TV heads, politicians, religious leaders who are public about being anti-mask/vaxx and then die.
Too bad.
Your body your choice

I'm not going to revel in their deaths, but I sure as shit won't get upset when other people do. We're talking about people going to great lengths and efforts to prolong this pandemic.

Their passing is a net gain for the rest of us. 

gimmesometruth27

Merkin Baller said:

Bentleyspop said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

mrussel1 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

cincybearcat said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

CM189191 said:

https://www.sorryantivaxxer.com/

What a fucking morbid website. I mean, I get it. These people were against the vaccine, and died of COVID. The website says "The goal of this list is educational." Yeah sure. That may be a goal. Other goals include ridiculing and shaming dead people, and rubbing salt in the wounds of their friends and family. Who's really going to be visiting that website? Anti-vaxxers who are going to be educated by it and decide to get the vaccine because of it? Or people that revel in the deaths of these anti-vaxxers? 

I find it hard to care about anti-vaxers that die that had a platform and used it to get other people to not get vaccinated (and wear masks).  Cause their negative impact is far beyond just their death.

I don't feel good about it, but more of a..."well that makes sense" pragmatism.  Not shocking, terrible that they have also led others to their deaths, and then move on and forget about them.

You may not feel good about it....but here's little sample of a comment section below one of the dead anti-vaxxers.....

Celebrating death is cruel.  At the same time, news stories about prominent anti-vaxxers and denialists are important.  Publicizing bad choices that lead to bad outcomes can lead some people to better decisions.. hopefully. 

That might be true. In fact, this comment section that I posted is for the death of a conservative radio host. But I think random person that made a facebook post is different than someone like him with a real platform, and that's what most of the people on that site are. 

the misinformation that this guy put on his radio show likely got other people killed. to me, that is unforgivable.

to be frank, i have no sympathy for him. none.

I'm with you.
I have no sympathy for people who are anti-mask/vaxx and then die from their choices 
I have even less sympathy for the people in public positions, i.e. radio hosts, TV heads, politicians, religious leaders who are public about being anti-mask/vaxx and then die.
Too bad.
Your body your choice

I'm not going to revel in their deaths, but I sure as shit won't get upset when other people do. We're talking about people going to great lengths and efforts to prolong this pandemic.

Their passing is a net gain for the rest of us. 

oh don't get me wrong. i am not reveling in it. i just feel nothing.

i have gone on and on on the boards about how this pandemic has decimated my business this year and the anti vaxxers and anti maskers are prolonging it. 

i am tired. i am angry. and i am frustrated. but i am not feeling any sympathy for people encouraging this pandemic to continue.

Merkin Baller

gimmesometruth27 said:

Merkin Baller said:

Bentleyspop said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

mrussel1 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

cincybearcat said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

CM189191 said:

https://www.sorryantivaxxer.com/

What a fucking morbid website. I mean, I get it. These people were against the vaccine, and died of COVID. The website says "The goal of this list is educational." Yeah sure. That may be a goal. Other goals include ridiculing and shaming dead people, and rubbing salt in the wounds of their friends and family. Who's really going to be visiting that website? Anti-vaxxers who are going to be educated by it and decide to get the vaccine because of it? Or people that revel in the deaths of these anti-vaxxers? 

I find it hard to care about anti-vaxers that die that had a platform and used it to get other people to not get vaccinated (and wear masks).  Cause their negative impact is far beyond just their death.

I don't feel good about it, but more of a..."well that makes sense" pragmatism.  Not shocking, terrible that they have also led others to their deaths, and then move on and forget about them.

You may not feel good about it....but here's little sample of a comment section below one of the dead anti-vaxxers.....

Celebrating death is cruel.  At the same time, news stories about prominent anti-vaxxers and denialists are important.  Publicizing bad choices that lead to bad outcomes can lead some people to better decisions.. hopefully. 

That might be true. In fact, this comment section that I posted is for the death of a conservative radio host. But I think random person that made a facebook post is different than someone like him with a real platform, and that's what most of the people on that site are. 

the misinformation that this guy put on his radio show likely got other people killed. to me, that is unforgivable.

to be frank, i have no sympathy for him. none.

I'm with you.
I have no sympathy for people who are anti-mask/vaxx and then die from their choices 
I have even less sympathy for the people in public positions, i.e. radio hosts, TV heads, politicians, religious leaders who are public about being anti-mask/vaxx and then die.
Too bad.
Your body your choice

I'm not going to revel in their deaths, but I sure as shit won't get upset when other people do. We're talking about people going to great lengths and efforts to prolong this pandemic.

Their passing is a net gain for the rest of us. 

oh don't get me wrong. i am not reveling in it. i just feel nothing.

i have gone on and on on the boards about how this pandemic has decimated my business this year and the anti vaxxers and anti maskers are prolonging it. 

i am tired. i am angry. and i am frustrated. but i am not feeling any sympathy for people encouraging this pandemic to continue.

I wasn't directing that comment at you specifically; If I implied that by quoting you, apologies. 

Halifax2TheMax

Well, at least Bart Simpson hasn’t succumbed.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CTOS7BCMdJU/?utm_medium=copy_link

HughFreakingDillon

Halifax2TheMax said:

Well, at least Bart Simpson hasn’t succumbed.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CTOS7BCMdJU/?utm_medium=copy_link

I saw that on Twitter yesterday. I howled. 

tempo_n_groove

Halifax2TheMax said:

Well, at least Bart Simpson hasn’t succumbed.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CTOS7BCMdJU/?utm_medium=copy_link

That whole Al coholic and Ben Dover skit was originated with Red Doich and the Tube bar.  It was one of those tapes that you passed around.  That is where Matt Groeining got the idea from.

gimmesometruth27

Merkin Baller said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

Merkin Baller said:

Bentleyspop said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

mrussel1 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

cincybearcat said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

CM189191 said:

https://www.sorryantivaxxer.com/

What a fucking morbid website. I mean, I get it. These people were against the vaccine, and died of COVID. The website says "The goal of this list is educational." Yeah sure. That may be a goal. Other goals include ridiculing and shaming dead people, and rubbing salt in the wounds of their friends and family. Who's really going to be visiting that website? Anti-vaxxers who are going to be educated by it and decide to get the vaccine because of it? Or people that revel in the deaths of these anti-vaxxers? 

I find it hard to care about anti-vaxers that die that had a platform and used it to get other people to not get vaccinated (and wear masks).  Cause their negative impact is far beyond just their death.

I don't feel good about it, but more of a..."well that makes sense" pragmatism.  Not shocking, terrible that they have also led others to their deaths, and then move on and forget about them.

You may not feel good about it....but here's little sample of a comment section below one of the dead anti-vaxxers.....

Celebrating death is cruel.  At the same time, news stories about prominent anti-vaxxers and denialists are important.  Publicizing bad choices that lead to bad outcomes can lead some people to better decisions.. hopefully. 

That might be true. In fact, this comment section that I posted is for the death of a conservative radio host. But I think random person that made a facebook post is different than someone like him with a real platform, and that's what most of the people on that site are. 

the misinformation that this guy put on his radio show likely got other people killed. to me, that is unforgivable.

to be frank, i have no sympathy for him. none.

I'm with you.
I have no sympathy for people who are anti-mask/vaxx and then die from their choices 
I have even less sympathy for the people in public positions, i.e. radio hosts, TV heads, politicians, religious leaders who are public about being anti-mask/vaxx and then die.
Too bad.
Your body your choice

I'm not going to revel in their deaths, but I sure as shit won't get upset when other people do. We're talking about people going to great lengths and efforts to prolong this pandemic.

Their passing is a net gain for the rest of us. 

oh don't get me wrong. i am not reveling in it. i just feel nothing.

i have gone on and on on the boards about how this pandemic has decimated my business this year and the anti vaxxers and anti maskers are prolonging it. 

i am tired. i am angry. and i am frustrated. but i am not feeling any sympathy for people encouraging this pandemic to continue.

I wasn't directing that comment at you specifically; If I implied that by quoting you, apologies. 

oh i know, no need to apologize. i was just expanding on my original post.

Ledbetterman10

Now HERE'S an issue with anti-vaxxers. I could care less about what they post on their social media. But this is way too far....

Anti-Vaxxers in Georgia Force COVID-19 Vaccine Site Shutdown: Official (businessinsider.com)

Georgia's health department chief said workers at state COVID-19 vaccination events have been the victims of "threats" — and that one mobile inoculation site had to shut down due to "bullying."

"I've become aware that many of our workers who are doing these vaccinations are receiving threats, hostile emails, harassing emails," the state's Department of Public Health commissioner Dr. Kathleen Toomey said during a press briefing Monday, according to The Telegraph. 

"That shouldn't happen to nurses who are working in the field to try and keep our state safe," Toomey said.

"I heard one mobile [vaccination] event had to close down because of the bullying and threats that were directed to our team," Toomey said as she blasted the aggressive behavior by the anti-vaccination campaigners. 

Toomey continued, "This is wrong, this is absolutely wrong. These people are giving their lives to help others, we should be thanking them for trying to get life-saving vaccines to our state."

COVID-19 cases, fueled by the more contagious Delta variant, have been increasing across the country, especially in Georgia. 

About 43% of those eligible for the coronavirus vaccine in Georgia are fully inoculated.

OnWis97

I don't even understand that; not even in the way that I understand them doing this at abortion clinics. There, they at least think they're saving children (don't get me wrong, they're nuts and wrong) but what / who are they protecting here? They're so deep in their rage over this, they don't even remember what they're fighting for. 

Halifax2TheMax

OnWis97 said:

I don't even understand that; not even in the way that I understand them doing this at abortion clinics. There, they at least think they're saving children (don't get me wrong, they're nuts and wrong) but what / who are they protecting here? They're so deep in their rage over this, they don't even remember what they're fighting for. 

And it’s our future. 

dignin

CM189191 said:

https://www.sorryantivaxxer.com/

On Reddit there are also subreddits that track these idiots. Hermancainaward, Leopardsatemyface and Covidatemyface.

HughFreakingDillon

covid ate my face? WTF?