HughFreakingDillon said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

well, well, well.

mr rand fucking paul's wife bought stock in feb 2020 in a company that makes covid antiviral treatment. he failed to disclose it for 16 months.

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/rand-paul-discloses-16-months-late-that-his-wife-bought-stock-in-company-behind-covid-treatment/?utm_source=RSS&utm_medium=Referral&utm_campaign=RSS_nation-world

as much as I can't stand that man, I have no problem with this because of this:

Kelsey Cooper, a spokeswoman for Paul, said the senator completed a reporting form for his wife’s investment last year, but learned only recently, while preparing an annual disclosure, that the form had not been transmitted. He sought guidance from the Senate Ethics Committee, she said, and filed the supplemental report along with an annual disclosure Wednesday.

HughFreakingDillon said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

well, well, well.

mr rand fucking paul's wife bought stock in feb 2020 in a company that makes covid antiviral treatment. he failed to disclose it for 16 months.

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/rand-paul-discloses-16-months-late-that-his-wife-bought-stock-in-company-behind-covid-treatment/?utm_source=RSS&utm_medium=Referral&utm_campaign=RSS_nation-world

as much as I can't stand that man, I have no problem with this because of this:

Kelsey Cooper, a spokeswoman for Paul, said the senator completed a reporting form for his wife’s investment last year, but learned only recently, while preparing an annual disclosure, that the form had not been transmitted. He sought guidance from the Senate Ethics Committee, she said, and filed the supplemental report along with an annual disclosure Wednesday.

mrussel1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

just because we don't like him doesn't make it any less believable. 

He's been disingenuous about the pandemic since the beginning.  Why would should we believe him now? The dick sent a criminal referral to the DOJ for Dr Fauci.

HughFreakingDillon said:

ok, I guess if someone is a dick that means every word out of their mouths is a lie. interesting take. 

The hesitant are not conspiracy theorists. They aren’t angry at the world. They don’t think COVID-19 is a hoax. They aren’t radicals of the left or the right — 61 percent of them say they are on the centre of the spectrum. Two thirds have post-secondary education. They might be timid, but they’re not stupid.

Almost half of them (46 percent) live in Ontario and well over half of them (59 percent) are women. A quarter were born outside Canada. Their average age is 42 and the plurality are between 30 and 44 years old. If they were voting in a federal election today, 35 percent would vote Liberal, 25 percent Conservative, 17 percent NDP, 9 percent Green — pretty similar to overall voting intentions for the entire population.

curmudgeoness said:

GlowGirl said:

Geez. What's next

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/i-am-legend-covid-vaccine-hesitancy-conspiracy-theories-screenwriter-responds-174832849.html

So, seriously, I think that a lot of people, having seen this or "The Stand" or whatever, and having slept through or failed biology class, think that movies = real life. I saw a quote a week or two ago from a woman who refused to get vaccinated, insisted COVID is a hoax because <<do you see people lying dead on the sidewalk or in their front yards? No, you don't! So you can't tell me the pandemic is real! >> Etc etc.

That comment pulled up a scene from "The Stand" (90's version, I'm old) for me -- where employees at the lab where the plague escaped basically died where they stood, because the disease was somehow that aggressive. So since dead bodies aren't jamming the Lincoln Tunnel and the devil isn't holding court in Las Vegas (as far as we know), COVID can't possibly be real.

Or something.

It's called science FICTION for a reason.

curmudgeoness said:

mrussel1 said:

curmudgeoness said:

jerparker20 said:

tbergs said:

jerparker20 said:

Governor here in MN issued an EO requiring all state employees that enter state buildings, or interact with public, to submit proof of vax by Sept 8, or submit to weekly testing. 

As a state employee, I’m fully behind it. I’m sure a few rubes will quit to own the libs, or whatever hill they’re willing to die on nowadays…  

Yep, our HR director shared the memo with me 30 minutes before the press conference. Only one of my staff is not vaccinated so it will be a simple one time verification and then done. I'm interested to see how this plays out with all the unvaxxed state employees. Lawsuits should be forming as I type this. This is where the "we're testing too much" crowd will circle the wagons and say this violates some sort of freedom. 

They can try a lawsuit all they want, courts will shoot them down due to precedent, and that the un-Vaxed have a choice. There’s only one person on my unit who isn’t vaxed. It wouldn’t surprise me if she quit over this.

I’m more interested in the union’s response in supporting this. There are numerous unions around the country that are not supporting vax mandates. Myself and a couple of co-workers let our union reps know that if they don’t support it, we may have to reconsider our voluntary commitment to paying unions dues.

San Diego County has been doing a great job of sharing information and TONS of data throughout the pandemic. So I was looking at a fifteen-page report the county just released, which includes, among other things, data on settings where people were potentially exposed to COVID. In the last two weeks, as in the last fourteen months, 31.6% of people report potential workplace exposure. That's more than double the percentage of people reporting potential exposure in bars/restaurants. So workplace mandates seems like a pretty good idea to me!

I think you have to be careful with that data.  It's self reported,  so that makes me skeptical right there.  Plus,  how would you really know if you were exposed in a bar or restaurant? You have no information after you live,  whereas it's the opposite for a work place 

Looking at the data, since the numbers add up to more than 100% it's clear that it is self-reported. About half of respondents apparently couldn't even think of a place where they could have been exposed. I haven't spoken with a contact tracer, but my guess is that you are asked to recall your activities over the last period of time: did you go to work? Did you go shopping? etc.

But the county also publishes regular (used to be daily, now weekly) reports of cases, hospitalizations, deaths, etc. and includes the number of new outbreaks (four or more cases tied to a location) and  the setting in which the outbreak(s) occurred. Workplace outbreaks figure prominently.