#46 President Joe Biden
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considering people were posting trump quotes and talking about him on page 1 of this very thread, but you do you and quote the posting guidelines at me.JB16057 said:gimmesometruth27 said:
no, trump derangement syndrome is not what this is. trump is awful and we are just pointing it out when certain people feel the need to cheep shot biden.JB16057 said:And it always comes back to Trump.... TDS is the real deal.4. Please respect topic integrity by not derailing discussions from the original poster’s intent (OP). You can begin a new topic of your own in the appropriate forum.Trump has his own thread yet you feel it necessary to break the forum guidelines? =TDS
maybe try to not get another thread locked this time, ok champ?"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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Same back at you bub!gimmesometruth27 said:
considering people were posting trump quotes and talking about him on page 1 of this very thread, but you do you and quote the posting guidelines at me.JB16057 said:gimmesometruth27 said:
no, trump derangement syndrome is not what this is. trump is awful and we are just pointing it out when certain people feel the need to cheep shot biden.JB16057 said:And it always comes back to Trump.... TDS is the real deal.4. Please respect topic integrity by not derailing discussions from the original poster’s intent (OP). You can begin a new topic of your own in the appropriate forum.Trump has his own thread yet you feel it necessary to break the forum guidelines? =TDS
maybe try to not get another thread locked this time, ok champ?
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anyway, biden is telling gop governors to get out of the way on covid. and florida gov is telling him to address the border. talk about deflection."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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gimmesometruth27 said:anyway, biden is telling gop governors to get out of the way on covid. and florida gov is telling him to address the border. talk about deflection.Biden is increasing the COVID infection rates by allowing a massive amount of sick immigrants into this country. The Canada border is still closed but the Mexico border is still wide open for anyone to come in.Both sides have their issues.0
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recent poll numbers on biden. looking pretty decent so far.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/biden_favorableunfavorable-6677.html
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Funny, I don't recall your criticism during the POOTWH Administration. But lets build a wall that Mexico will pay for and separate children migrants from their/there/they're parents.JB16057 said:gimmesometruth27 said:anyway, biden is telling gop governors to get out of the way on covid. and florida gov is telling him to address the border. talk about deflection.Biden is increasing the COVID infection rates by allowing a massive amount of sick immigrants into this country. The Canada border is still closed but the Mexico border is still wide open for anyone to come in.Both sides have their issues.CBP Enforcement Numbers
In June 2021, CBP encountered 188,829 persons attempting entry along the Southwest Border. This total represented a five percent increase over May 2021. The large number of expulsions during the pandemic has contributed to a larger-than-usual number of migrants making multiple border crossing attempts, which means that total encounters somewhat overstate the number of unique individuals arriving at the border. Thirty-four percent of encounters in June 2021 were individuals who had at least one prior encounter in the previous 12 months, compared to an average one-year re-encounter rate of 14 percent for Fiscal Years 2014-2019. The number of unique new encounters in June 2021 was 123,838. The number of unique individuals encountered to date during the fiscal year is 454,944 compared to 489,760 during the same time period in 2019.
Single adults continue to make up the majority of these encounters; however, the number of single adults declined three percent from May to June. Last month, CBP expelled 104,907 individuals under Title 42. CBP continues to expel single adults and family units that are encountered pursuant to CDC guidance under Title 42 authority. The majority of all June encounters resulted in a Title 42 expulsion.
Encounters along the Southwest Border of unaccompanied children increased this month by 8 percent, with 15,253 encounters in June 2021 compared with 14,137 in May 2021. Encounters of family unit individuals increased by 25 percent to 55,805 in June 2021, up from 44,746 in May but still well below the peak of 88,587 in May 2019. In 2021, family unit encounters have consistently tracked below 2019 encounters for each month of the year.
CBP enforcement numbers for June 2021 can be found here.
Seems almost humane:
Migrant Protection Protocols Expanded Criteria
On June 1, 2021, Secretary Mayorkas formally terminated the Migrant Protection Protocols (MPP) program, which returned certain noncitizens to Mexico pending removal proceedings before an immigration judge under Section 240 of the Immigration and Naturalization Act.
This termination does not impact the Department’s ongoing processing of eligible MPP enrollees into the United States. As part of a continued effort to restore safe and orderly processing of individuals seeking to enter the United States, the Department of Homeland Security announced on June 23 that it would expand the pool of MPP-enrolled individuals that may be processed into the United States, to include MPP enrollees who had their cases terminated or were ordered removed in absentia.
Through June 30, 2021, DHS processed more than 12,000 individuals who had been returned to Mexico under MPP.
Unaccompanied Children in Custody
The number of children in CBP custody fell from 5,767 at its peak on March 29 to 832 on June 30, 2021. The average daily number of children in CBP custody for June 2021 was 794. The average time in custody for unaccompanied children fell from 133 hours on March 29 to 28 hours on June 30, 2021.
This sustained progress is a result of the steps DHS took to reengineer processes and mobilize personnel Department-wide, including designating FEMA to lead a whole of government effort to assist the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS). This support has included establishing temporary facilities that provide safe, sanitary, and secure environments for unaccompanied children as well as continued support from U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services officers to efficiently and effectively verify claimed sponsors to support the reunification process.
Life-saving Rescues
Smuggling organizations are abandoning migrants in remote and dangerous areas, leading to a dramatic rise in the number of rescues CBP performs. In Fiscal Year 2021 thru June, CBP conducted 9,500 rescues nationwide, which is 81 percent higher than the total number of rescues in all of Fiscal Year 2020.
Through the Missing Migrant Program (MMP), CBP seeks to prevent deaths, increase rescues of missing migrants, and assist with the identification of decedents. CBP continues to expand its technological capabilities, including deploying rescue beacons that are equipped with lights and signage that are visible to lost and distressed subjects from a distance. By the end of June 2021, CBP had deployed 120 rescue beacons.
In addition, CBP continues to deploy rescue placards that are designed to inform migrants to call 911 and are uniquely numbered giving rescue personnel coordinates to their location. By the end of June 2021, CBP had 2,165 rescue placards in remote areas throughout the Southwest Border.
Operation Sentinel
In April 2021, CBP launched Operation Sentinel, a new counter-network targeting operation focused directly on transnational criminal organizations (TCO) affiliated with smuggling migrants into the United States.
To date, Operation Sentinel partners in the State Department have revoked more than 150 visas associated with TCO members and their associates, preventing these individuals from traveling to the United States and from using their U.S. visas as entry documents in foreign countries. Operation Sentinel has also identified multiple entities for U.S. government-wide suspension and/or debarment, which would preclude TCO members, their affiliates and their associated businesses from Federal programs. The operation has also worked with foreign partners to freeze overseas accounts, curbing TCOs’ ability to send and receive the financial proceeds of their illicit activities.
Guatemala Advisory Assistance
In partnership with the Department of State Bureau of International Narcotics and Law Enforcement Affairs, CBP is supporting the United States’ initiative to address the root causes of irregular migration from Central America. In coordination with the Vice President of the United States’ visit to Guatemala, CBP personnel deployed to Guatemala in early June to provide advisory and capacity-building expertise to the Government of Guatemala in order to improve border security efforts, target human smuggling groups, and enhance trade and customs modernization.
CBP Announces June 2021 Operational Update | U.S. Customs and Border Protection
Southwest Land Border Encounters | U.S. Customs and Border Protection (cbp.gov)
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And let's not let history get in the way of a good distraction narrative:
Both the Obama and Trump administrations attempted without success to deter people from seeking protection, from the former’s expansion of family detention through the latter’s family separation policy. But these policies have not had any meaningful long-term effect despite the tremendous hardship they have created for many families and children. For example, the number of families and children encountered at the southern border peaked in FY 2019, despite the family separation policy the previous year, when the Border Patrol apprehended a total of 549,702 parents and children at the border seeking protection.
Rising Border Encounters in 2021: An Overview and Analysis | American Immigration Council
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border is wide open you say?whats true is our borders are long. Iys impossible to "close" them. the establisjed crossings though are closed to all but essential travel.has crossing at other than established ports of entry wver really been an issue with canada?no, only on the southern border where most of those folks are turning themselves in as is the usual nethod in requesting asylum.
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Funny, I don't recall your criticism during the POOTWH Administration. But lets build a wall that Mexico will pay for and separate children migrants from their/there/they're parents.JB16057 said:gimmesometruth27 said:anyway, biden is telling gop governors to get out of the way on covid. and florida gov is telling him to address the border. talk about deflection.Biden is increasing the COVID infection rates by allowing a massive amount of sick immigrants into this country. The Canada border is still closed but the Mexico border is still wide open for anyone to come in.Both sides have their issues.There was no global pandemic during the POOTWH's Administration. This administration is allowing sick people in left and right without vaccination. They know they are sick and still allowing insane amounts in every single day.Separating children from their parents at the border is cruel but so is allowing sick people into this country with no plan on trying to contain COVID with these migrants.Edit: After getting pointed out to me, I was wrong to say that there was no global pandemic during the POOTWH's Administration. I was wrong and it was a stupid mistake to make. I've kept the comment how it was as I don't want people to think I am trying to hide my foolish mistake.Post edited by JB16057 on0 -
JB16057 said:Halifax2TheMax said:
Funny, I don't recall your criticism during the POOTWH Administration. But lets build a wall that Mexico will pay for and separate children migrants from their/there/they're parents.JB16057 said:gimmesometruth27 said:anyway, biden is telling gop governors to get out of the way on covid. and florida gov is telling him to address the border. talk about deflection.Biden is increasing the COVID infection rates by allowing a massive amount of sick immigrants into this country. The Canada border is still closed but the Mexico border is still wide open for anyone to come in.Both sides have their issues.There was no global pandemic during the POOTWH's Administration. This administration is allowing sick people in left and right without vaccination. They know they are sick and still allowing insane amounts in every single day.Separating children from their parents at the border is cruel but so is allowing sick people into this country with no plan on trying to contain COVID with these migrants.
By Nick Miroff and Maria Sacchetti
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/biden-vaccines-migrants-border/2021/08/03/afaff516-f471-11eb-83e7-06a8a299c310_story.html
Biden administration preparing to offer vaccines to migrants along Mexico border
By Nick Miroff and Maria Sacchetti
August 03 at 7:26 PM ET
The Biden administration is preparing to begin offering coronavirus vaccine to migrants in U.S. custody along the Mexico border, where illegal crossings are at their highest levels in over two decades and health officials are struggling with soaring numbers of infections, according to two Department of Homeland Security officials with knowledge of the plan.
Until now, only a limited number of migrants have received vaccine while held in longer-term U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement detention facilities. Under the broad outlines of the new plan, DHS would vaccinate migrants soon after they cross into the United States as they await processing by U.S. Customs and Border Protection.
Vaccine would be provided to those facing deportation as well as migrants likely to be released into the United States pending a court hearing, said one of the two officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the tentative plan. Migrants who are quickly sent back to Mexico under the Title 42 public health law would not be offered a dose, at least during the initial phase, the person said.
The Biden administration plans to use the Johnson & Johnson vaccine, whose single-dose regimen is better suited to a transient population that may not be able to coordinate a second shot, the DHS officials said.In a statement, DHS spokesperson Meira Bernstein said the department will “continue to monitor and reassess” its pandemic protocols, but she insisted that no decisions have been made. “At this time, our protocols have not changed,” she said.continues.....
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Guess you haven't seen the reporting on the Biden Administration wanting to vaccinate migrants apprehended at the border?JB16057 said:Halifax2TheMax said:
Funny, I don't recall your criticism during the POOTWH Administration. But lets build a wall that Mexico will pay for and separate children migrants from their/there/they're parents.JB16057 said:gimmesometruth27 said:anyway, biden is telling gop governors to get out of the way on covid. and florida gov is telling him to address the border. talk about deflection.Biden is increasing the COVID infection rates by allowing a massive amount of sick immigrants into this country. The Canada border is still closed but the Mexico border is still wide open for anyone to come in.Both sides have their issues.There was no global pandemic during the POOTWH's Administration. This administration is allowing sick people in left and right without vaccination. They know they are sick and still allowing insane amounts in every single day.Separating children from their parents at the border is cruel but so is allowing sick people into this country with no plan on trying to contain COVID with these migrants.
To the bold, how does that look, "allowing sick people in left and right?" Describe that to me, please. A welcome mat? Looking the other way? Not doing anything about it?
"There was no global pandemic during the POOTWH Administration?" It started January 20, 2021? What alternate universe do you occupy? 614,000+ dead 'Muricans in 7 months?
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here we go again.....Sturgis bike rally revs back bigger, despite virus variantBy STEPHEN GROVESToday
SIOUX FALLS, S.D. (AP) — Crowds of bikers are rumbling their way towards South Dakota's Black Hills this week, raising fears that COVID-19 infections will be unleashed among the 700,000 people expected to show up at the Sturgis Motorcycle Rally.
The rally, which starts Friday, has become a haven for those eager to escape coronavirus precautions. Last year, the rally hardly slowed down, with roughly 460,000 people attending. Masks were mostly ditched as bikers crowded into bars, tattoo parlors and rock shows, offering a lesson in how massive gatherings could spread waves of the virus across the country.
This year — the 81st iteration of the rally — is expected to be even bigger, drawing people from around the U.S. and beyond, despite concerns about the virus’ highly contagious delta variant.
“It’s great to see a party of hundreds of thousands of people,” said Zoltán Vári, a rallygoer who was settling into his campsite Tuesday after making the trek from Hungary.
He was eager to return to riding a Harley-Davidson through the Black Hills after missing last year. Vári evaded U.S. tourism travel restrictions on Europe by spending two weeks in Costa Rica before making his way to South Dakota. He hopes 1 million people will show up. Typical attendance is around a half a million.
The city of Sturgis, usually a sleepy community of under 7,000, tried to tamp things down last year, canceling most city-sponsored events and promotion, but hordes of bikers showed up anyway.
“The rally is a behemoth, and you cannot stop it,” said Carol Fellner, a local who worried that this year's event would cause a fresh outbreak of cases. “I feel absolutely powerless.”
This year, the city is embracing the crowds. Republican Gov. Kristi Noem has given the rally her blessing and will appear in a charity ride. The event is a boon for tourism, powering over $800 million in sales, according to the state Department of Tourism.
The rally is happening as other giant summer events — from state fairs to music festivals like Lollapalooza — are returning around the U.S. In Wisconsin, health officials say nearly 500 coronavirus cases may be linked to the crowds that attended Milwaukee Bucks games or gathered outside the team’s arena — estimated as high as 100,000 one night — during their push to the NBA championship.
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Guess you haven't seen the reporting on the Biden Administration wanting to vaccinate migrants apprehended at the border?JB16057 said:Halifax2TheMax said:
Funny, I don't recall your criticism during the POOTWH Administration. But lets build a wall that Mexico will pay for and separate children migrants from their/there/they're parents.JB16057 said:gimmesometruth27 said:anyway, biden is telling gop governors to get out of the way on covid. and florida gov is telling him to address the border. talk about deflection.Biden is increasing the COVID infection rates by allowing a massive amount of sick immigrants into this country. The Canada border is still closed but the Mexico border is still wide open for anyone to come in.Both sides have their issues.There was no global pandemic during the POOTWH's Administration. This administration is allowing sick people in left and right without vaccination. They know they are sick and still allowing insane amounts in every single day.Separating children from their parents at the border is cruel but so is allowing sick people into this country with no plan on trying to contain COVID with these migrants.
To the bold, how does that look, "allowing sick people in left and right?" Describe that to me, please. A welcome mat? Looking the other way? Not doing anything about it?
"There was no global pandemic during the POOTWH Administration?" It started January 20, 2021? What alternate universe do you occupy? 614,000+ dead 'Muricans in 7 months?
Your first sentence is a complete lie. Again.I am sorry. You are correct. The pandemic did start while Trump was in office. It was not a lie but a misstatement, a foolish misstatement at that.Do you have the reporting on the Biden Admin wanting to vaccinate migrants?Yes, there was a welcoming mat when Biden & Harris told migrants to come to America.
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I 100% agree with you. How can you have the northern border closed but the southern border wide open? If anything you need to vaccinate anyone crossing the border before allowing them entry in the US.JB16057 said:Halifax2TheMax said:
Guess you haven't seen the reporting on the Biden Administration wanting to vaccinate migrants apprehended at the border?JB16057 said:Halifax2TheMax said:
Funny, I don't recall your criticism during the POOTWH Administration. But lets build a wall that Mexico will pay for and separate children migrants from their/there/they're parents.JB16057 said:gimmesometruth27 said:anyway, biden is telling gop governors to get out of the way on covid. and florida gov is telling him to address the border. talk about deflection.Biden is increasing the COVID infection rates by allowing a massive amount of sick immigrants into this country. The Canada border is still closed but the Mexico border is still wide open for anyone to come in.Both sides have their issues.There was no global pandemic during the POOTWH's Administration. This administration is allowing sick people in left and right without vaccination. They know they are sick and still allowing insane amounts in every single day.Separating children from their parents at the border is cruel but so is allowing sick people into this country with no plan on trying to contain COVID with these migrants.
To the bold, how does that look, "allowing sick people in left and right?" Describe that to me, please. A welcome mat? Looking the other way? Not doing anything about it?
"There was no global pandemic during the POOTWH Administration?" It started January 20, 2021? What alternate universe do you occupy? 614,000+ dead 'Muricans in 7 months?
Your first sentence is a complete lie. Again.I am sorry. You are correct. The pandemic did start while Trump was in office. It was not a lie but a misstatement, a foolish misstatement at that.Do you have the reporting on the Biden Admin wanting to vaccinate migrants?Yes, there was a welcoming mat when Biden & Harris told migrants to come to America.I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
mickeyrat said:JB16057 said:Halifax2TheMax said:
Funny, I don't recall your criticism during the POOTWH Administration. But lets build a wall that Mexico will pay for and separate children migrants from their/there/they're parents.JB16057 said:gimmesometruth27 said:anyway, biden is telling gop governors to get out of the way on covid. and florida gov is telling him to address the border. talk about deflection.Biden is increasing the COVID infection rates by allowing a massive amount of sick immigrants into this country. The Canada border is still closed but the Mexico border is still wide open for anyone to come in.Both sides have their issues.There was no global pandemic during the POOTWH's Administration. This administration is allowing sick people in left and right without vaccination. They know they are sick and still allowing insane amounts in every single day.Separating children from their parents at the border is cruel but so is allowing sick people into this country with no plan on trying to contain COVID with these migrants.
By Nick Miroff and Maria Sacchetti
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/biden-vaccines-migrants-border/2021/08/03/afaff516-f471-11eb-83e7-06a8a299c310_story.html
Biden administration preparing to offer vaccines to migrants along Mexico border
By Nick Miroff and Maria Sacchetti
August 03 at 7:26 PM ET
The Biden administration is preparing to begin offering coronavirus vaccine to migrants in U.S. custody along the Mexico border, where illegal crossings are at their highest levels in over two decades and health officials are struggling with soaring numbers of infections, according to two Department of Homeland Security officials with knowledge of the plan.
Until now, only a limited number of migrants have received vaccine while held in longer-term U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement detention facilities. Under the broad outlines of the new plan, DHS would vaccinate migrants soon after they cross into the United States as they await processing by U.S. Customs and Border Protection.
Vaccine would be provided to those facing deportation as well as migrants likely to be released into the United States pending a court hearing, said one of the two officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the tentative plan. Migrants who are quickly sent back to Mexico under the Title 42 public health law would not be offered a dose, at least during the initial phase, the person said.
The Biden administration plans to use the Johnson & Johnson vaccine, whose single-dose regimen is better suited to a transient population that may not be able to coordinate a second shot, the DHS officials said.In a statement, DHS spokesperson Meira Bernstein said the department will “continue to monitor and reassess” its pandemic protocols, but she insisted that no decisions have been made. “At this time, our protocols have not changed,” she said.continues.....
reporting on plan to vax migrants...
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I 100% agree with you. How can you have the northern border closed but the southern border wide open? If anything you need to vaccinate anyone crossing the border before allowing them entry in the US.JB16057 said:Halifax2TheMax said:
Guess you haven't seen the reporting on the Biden Administration wanting to vaccinate migrants apprehended at the border?JB16057 said:Halifax2TheMax said:
Funny, I don't recall your criticism during the POOTWH Administration. But lets build a wall that Mexico will pay for and separate children migrants from their/there/they're parents.JB16057 said:gimmesometruth27 said:anyway, biden is telling gop governors to get out of the way on covid. and florida gov is telling him to address the border. talk about deflection.Biden is increasing the COVID infection rates by allowing a massive amount of sick immigrants into this country. The Canada border is still closed but the Mexico border is still wide open for anyone to come in.Both sides have their issues.There was no global pandemic during the POOTWH's Administration. This administration is allowing sick people in left and right without vaccination. They know they are sick and still allowing insane amounts in every single day.Separating children from their parents at the border is cruel but so is allowing sick people into this country with no plan on trying to contain COVID with these migrants.
To the bold, how does that look, "allowing sick people in left and right?" Describe that to me, please. A welcome mat? Looking the other way? Not doing anything about it?
"There was no global pandemic during the POOTWH Administration?" It started January 20, 2021? What alternate universe do you occupy? 614,000+ dead 'Muricans in 7 months?
Your first sentence is a complete lie. Again.I am sorry. You are correct. The pandemic did start while Trump was in office. It was not a lie but a misstatement, a foolish misstatement at that.Do you have the reporting on the Biden Admin wanting to vaccinate migrants?Yes, there was a welcoming mat when Biden & Harris told migrants to come to America.all crossing checkpoints are closed and have been since last year excepting essential travel, just like the northern border.yes its true the southern border is wide open even with the "wall" but guess what so is the northern border....._____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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But we are still allowing people in this country from the southern border. You and I know that is the difference.mickeyrat said:mcgruff10 said:
I 100% agree with you. How can you have the northern border closed but the southern border wide open? If anything you need to vaccinate anyone crossing the border before allowing them entry in the US.JB16057 said:Halifax2TheMax said:
Guess you haven't seen the reporting on the Biden Administration wanting to vaccinate migrants apprehended at the border?JB16057 said:Halifax2TheMax said:
Funny, I don't recall your criticism during the POOTWH Administration. But lets build a wall that Mexico will pay for and separate children migrants from their/there/they're parents.JB16057 said:gimmesometruth27 said:anyway, biden is telling gop governors to get out of the way on covid. and florida gov is telling him to address the border. talk about deflection.Biden is increasing the COVID infection rates by allowing a massive amount of sick immigrants into this country. The Canada border is still closed but the Mexico border is still wide open for anyone to come in.Both sides have their issues.There was no global pandemic during the POOTWH's Administration. This administration is allowing sick people in left and right without vaccination. They know they are sick and still allowing insane amounts in every single day.Separating children from their parents at the border is cruel but so is allowing sick people into this country with no plan on trying to contain COVID with these migrants.
To the bold, how does that look, "allowing sick people in left and right?" Describe that to me, please. A welcome mat? Looking the other way? Not doing anything about it?
"There was no global pandemic during the POOTWH Administration?" It started January 20, 2021? What alternate universe do you occupy? 614,000+ dead 'Muricans in 7 months?
Your first sentence is a complete lie. Again.I am sorry. You are correct. The pandemic did start while Trump was in office. It was not a lie but a misstatement, a foolish misstatement at that.Do you have the reporting on the Biden Admin wanting to vaccinate migrants?Yes, there was a welcoming mat when Biden & Harris told migrants to come to America.all crossing checkpoints are closed and have been since last year excepting essential travel, just like the northern border.yes its true the southern border is wide open even with the "wall" but guess what so is the northern border.....I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
Stop with the facts. Just stop.mickeyrat said:mcgruff10 said:
I 100% agree with you. How can you have the northern border closed but the southern border wide open? If anything you need to vaccinate anyone crossing the border before allowing them entry in the US.JB16057 said:Halifax2TheMax said:
Guess you haven't seen the reporting on the Biden Administration wanting to vaccinate migrants apprehended at the border?JB16057 said:Halifax2TheMax said:
Funny, I don't recall your criticism during the POOTWH Administration. But lets build a wall that Mexico will pay for and separate children migrants from their/there/they're parents.JB16057 said:gimmesometruth27 said:anyway, biden is telling gop governors to get out of the way on covid. and florida gov is telling him to address the border. talk about deflection.Biden is increasing the COVID infection rates by allowing a massive amount of sick immigrants into this country. The Canada border is still closed but the Mexico border is still wide open for anyone to come in.Both sides have their issues.There was no global pandemic during the POOTWH's Administration. This administration is allowing sick people in left and right without vaccination. They know they are sick and still allowing insane amounts in every single day.Separating children from their parents at the border is cruel but so is allowing sick people into this country with no plan on trying to contain COVID with these migrants.
To the bold, how does that look, "allowing sick people in left and right?" Describe that to me, please. A welcome mat? Looking the other way? Not doing anything about it?
"There was no global pandemic during the POOTWH Administration?" It started January 20, 2021? What alternate universe do you occupy? 614,000+ dead 'Muricans in 7 months?
Your first sentence is a complete lie. Again.I am sorry. You are correct. The pandemic did start while Trump was in office. It was not a lie but a misstatement, a foolish misstatement at that.Do you have the reporting on the Biden Admin wanting to vaccinate migrants?Yes, there was a welcoming mat when Biden & Harris told migrants to come to America.all crossing checkpoints are closed and have been since last year excepting essential travel, just like the northern border.yes its true the southern border is wide open even with the "wall" but guess what so is the northern border.....09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Quote, link and context, please. I’m trying to understand your perception of “allowing sick people In left and right.”JB16057 said:Halifax2TheMax said:
Guess you haven't seen the reporting on the Biden Administration wanting to vaccinate migrants apprehended at the border?JB16057 said:Halifax2TheMax said:
Funny, I don't recall your criticism during the POOTWH Administration. But lets build a wall that Mexico will pay for and separate children migrants from their/there/they're parents.JB16057 said:gimmesometruth27 said:anyway, biden is telling gop governors to get out of the way on covid. and florida gov is telling him to address the border. talk about deflection.Biden is increasing the COVID infection rates by allowing a massive amount of sick immigrants into this country. The Canada border is still closed but the Mexico border is still wide open for anyone to come in.Both sides have their issues.There was no global pandemic during the POOTWH's Administration. This administration is allowing sick people in left and right without vaccination. They know they are sick and still allowing insane amounts in every single day.Separating children from their parents at the border is cruel but so is allowing sick people into this country with no plan on trying to contain COVID with these migrants.
To the bold, how does that look, "allowing sick people in left and right?" Describe that to me, please. A welcome mat? Looking the other way? Not doing anything about it?
"There was no global pandemic during the POOTWH Administration?" It started January 20, 2021? What alternate universe do you occupy? 614,000+ dead 'Muricans in 7 months?
Your first sentence is a complete lie. Again.I am sorry. You are correct. The pandemic did start while Trump was in office. It was not a lie but a misstatement, a foolish misstatement at that.Do you have the reporting on the Biden Admin wanting to vaccinate migrants?Yes, there was a welcoming mat when Biden & Harris told migrants to come to America.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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mickeyrat said:mickeyrat said:JB16057 said:Halifax2TheMax said:
Funny, I don't recall your criticism during the POOTWH Administration. But lets build a wall that Mexico will pay for and separate children migrants from their/there/they're parents.JB16057 said:gimmesometruth27 said:anyway, biden is telling gop governors to get out of the way on covid. and florida gov is telling him to address the border. talk about deflection.Biden is increasing the COVID infection rates by allowing a massive amount of sick immigrants into this country. The Canada border is still closed but the Mexico border is still wide open for anyone to come in.Both sides have their issues.There was no global pandemic during the POOTWH's Administration. This administration is allowing sick people in left and right without vaccination. They know they are sick and still allowing insane amounts in every single day.Separating children from their parents at the border is cruel but so is allowing sick people into this country with no plan on trying to contain COVID with these migrants.
By Nick Miroff and Maria Sacchetti
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/biden-vaccines-migrants-border/2021/08/03/afaff516-f471-11eb-83e7-06a8a299c310_story.html
Biden administration preparing to offer vaccines to migrants along Mexico border
By Nick Miroff and Maria Sacchetti
August 03 at 7:26 PM ET
The Biden administration is preparing to begin offering coronavirus vaccine to migrants in U.S. custody along the Mexico border, where illegal crossings are at their highest levels in over two decades and health officials are struggling with soaring numbers of infections, according to two Department of Homeland Security officials with knowledge of the plan.
Until now, only a limited number of migrants have received vaccine while held in longer-term U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement detention facilities. Under the broad outlines of the new plan, DHS would vaccinate migrants soon after they cross into the United States as they await processing by U.S. Customs and Border Protection.
Vaccine would be provided to those facing deportation as well as migrants likely to be released into the United States pending a court hearing, said one of the two officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the tentative plan. Migrants who are quickly sent back to Mexico under the Title 42 public health law would not be offered a dose, at least during the initial phase, the person said.
The Biden administration plans to use the Johnson & Johnson vaccine, whose single-dose regimen is better suited to a transient population that may not be able to coordinate a second shot, the DHS officials said.In a statement, DHS spokesperson Meira Bernstein said the department will “continue to monitor and reassess” its pandemic protocols, but she insisted that no decisions have been made. “At this time, our protocols have not changed,” she said.continues.....
reporting on plan to vax migrants...I can't read the whole article as I don't have a Washington Post subscription. From what I see here is says, "is preparing to offer....". That's great start but what about those who refuse to take it and still want asylum?There are plenty of polls that have been released showing the the majority of Americans disapprove of how the Biden Admin has handled their immigration policies. I'll concur that Trump also had a poor rating on the border so what is the solution and who has it? Maybe there never will be a good solution but I don't like the idea of sick migrants coming into this country. If they refuse the vaccine at the border, why would they ever take it? Mandating proof of vaccination is growing every day. I don't see there being an issue with mandating that all migrants should have to take the vaccine unless they have a medical condition which can be proven to be harmful to their health.
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