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  • cblock4life
    cblock4life Posts: 1,855
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Well, someone has seen the light.

    A conservative talk-show host who said 'you're probably safer not getting' the vaccine is now seriously ill with COVID-19, and his family is asking people to 'PLEASE GO GET VACCINATED!'

    A conservative radio talk-show host who had told followers that they were "probably safer not getting" the COVID-19 vaccine if they weren't at high risk is now hospitalized in serious condition with the coronavirus, his family said.

    Phil Valentine, who hosts "The Phil Valentine Show" on WWTN-FM in Nashville, Tennessee, contracted COVID-19 more than a week ago and "has since been hospitalized & is in very serious condition," his family said in a statement on Thursday.

    Valentine, 61, is "suffering from COVID pneumonia and the attendant side effects," the statement said, adding, "He is in the hospital in the critical care unit breathing with assistance but is NOT on a ventilator."

    Now that he's become ill with the coronavirus, he has "regrets" about his comments about the vaccines, his family said.

    Conservative Radio Host Who Downplayed Vaccines Seriously Ill With COVID-19 (businessinsider.com)

    I just can’t feel bad for these people. 
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,409
    cblock4life said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Well, someone has seen the light.

    A conservative talk-show host who said 'you're probably safer not getting' the vaccine is now seriously ill with COVID-19, and his family is asking people to 'PLEASE GO GET VACCINATED!'

    A conservative radio talk-show host who had told followers that they were "probably safer not getting" the COVID-19 vaccine if they weren't at high risk is now hospitalized in serious condition with the coronavirus, his family said.

    Phil Valentine, who hosts "The Phil Valentine Show" on WWTN-FM in Nashville, Tennessee, contracted COVID-19 more than a week ago and "has since been hospitalized & is in very serious condition," his family said in a statement on Thursday.

    Valentine, 61, is "suffering from COVID pneumonia and the attendant side effects," the statement said, adding, "He is in the hospital in the critical care unit breathing with assistance but is NOT on a ventilator."

    Now that he's become ill with the coronavirus, he has "regrets" about his comments about the vaccines, his family said.

    Conservative Radio Host Who Downplayed Vaccines Seriously Ill With COVID-19 (businessinsider.com)

    I just can’t feel bad for these people. 
    Nope
    They get no sympathy from me
    None of the anti-vaxxers who get sick, or worse, get any sympathy from me.

    And another NFL assistant goes buh  bye..  


  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,370
    Meltdown99 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    PJNB said:
    oftenreading said:
    New data available in pre-print looks at the effectiveness of a single doze of the Pfizer vaccine in terms of development of antibodies vs. two doses with respect to the timing of the two doses and confirms that a longer time period between the first and second dose leads to higher overall antibody levels, but leaves the individual less protected during the interval. The authors estimate that the "sweet spot" is 8 weeks between first and second dose (rather than the 3 weeks that Pfizer got authorization for).

    https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/spacing-pfizer-covid-shots-boosts-antibody-levels-after-initial-drop-study-2021-07-22/

    Though probably no one will even read this, amongst all the bickering. 
    Great news and looks like Canada may have gotten lucky a bit with their strategy of single doses first to the masses and this also working in our favour. 

    wheres meltdown when you need him....
    I’m right here.  It was a great strategy considering we are just coming g out of lockdowns…and when the policy was put in place it was done so to cover up for the ineptitude of Canada’s racist, misogynist dear leader…lmfao at the troll.

    really. so the US contracts before they were even established as effective 200 million doses each of Pfizer and moderna and funded the development of the moderna as well as others through op warpspeed.

    do you know what the manufacturing capacity of all combined was? Fuck J&J had to trash millions ofdoses cuz of conditions at one facility. AND still had to honor the US contract first.

    So wasnt Canada in line like everyone else until production ramped up significantly?  especially since vax isnt manufactured in Canada?
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  • gvn2fly1421
    gvn2fly1421 Posts: 935
    "Totally transparent"




  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    gvn2fly1421 said:
    "Totally transparent"




    What was the question and what was the rest of her response, to the end of their discussion?
  • gvn2fly1421
    gvn2fly1421 Posts: 935
    mrussel1 said:
    gvn2fly1421 said:
    "Totally transparent"




    What was the question and what was the rest of her response, to the end of their discussion?

  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    gvn2fly1421 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    gvn2fly1421 said:
    "Totally transparent"




    What was the question and what was the rest of her response, to the end of their discussion?

    Well there you go.  The question wasn't about break through cases in the country but specifically in the WH staff.  I wouldn't answer that either for two reasons:

    1. It gets awfully close to private information and certainly there are plenty of dickheads that would try to find out and publish who has COVID and who doesn't, among the WH staff.

    2. You can't draw conclusions among a small cohort of individuals which would be a statistically insignificant number of people.  

    So the question as to why that's important is a good one.  If you can't draw medical conclusions, why would the WH release that personal type information?  If you want to know about breakthroughs, there is data from the CDC which is more useful.  
  • gvn2fly1421
    gvn2fly1421 Posts: 935
    mrussel1 said:

    1. It gets awfully close to private information and certainly there are plenty of dickheads that would try to find out and publish who has COVID and who doesn't, among the WH staff.

    Not sure where your stance is on this, but I know plenty on this board feel that vaccines should be mandated.

    So, I cannot know how many people within the White House have covid, but they can make sure that I have had the vaccine?

    Also, this...

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/10/03/us/rose-garden-event-covid.html

    Inside the White House Event Now Under Covid-19 Scrutiny - The New York Times
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,370
    gvn2fly1421 said:
    mrussel1 said:

    1. It gets awfully close to private information and certainly there are plenty of dickheads that would try to find out and publish who has COVID and who doesn't, among the WH staff.

    Not sure where your stance is on this, but I know plenty on this board feel that vaccines should be mandated.

    So, I cannot know how many people within the White House have covid, but they can make sure that I have had the vaccine?

    Also, this...

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/10/03/us/rose-garden-event-covid.html

    Inside the White House Event Now Under Covid-19 Scrutiny - The New York Times

    seem to recall those folks had independent coverage or releases stating their status and this is a compilation of that. Its not as if THAT admins staff was going to release that info to a direct question.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    The president's health status is obviously of national security.  Staffers are different.  Did these people self disclose or was it under pressure from the press to the WH that led to the information?  I'm pretty sure it's the former.  And last, of course some of these people aren't WH staffers. 
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    brianlux said:
    WTF is it with FLA?! 
    And what about Alabama Governor, Kay Ivey, and her statement that "Folks are supposed to have common sense. But it’s time to start blaming the unvaccinated folks, not the vaccinated folks. It’s the unvaccinated folks that are letting us down.”  WTF, Kay?  Where do you think these people got there notions about the vaccine in the first place???
    What the hell is wrong with some of these people?!


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    They're just dying to do that, aren't they. 
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    Still not vaccinated yet?  Listen to Jello.  Go!

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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,830
    gvn2fly1421 said:
    cincybearcat said:
    gvn2fly1421 said:
    Here is what I have learned regarding the virus, not just here but nationwide-  If the information presented stays on message of the Party, then it is good.  If the information presented goes against the message, then it is fact-checked and labeled as misinformation.
    The fact that you equate this to “party” is the main problem. So no, your observation is incorrect.
    Notice how I didn't refer to one party, just "the" party.  Also, how is that 401k doing?  Them damn anti-vaxxholes.

    I know this board has been really good at spotting misinformation, can some one help me out here.  Biden said during his town hall that you will not get Covid if you have been vaccinated (video a page or two back), yet the Washington Post states-

    "In other words, the delta variant means the virus will probably continue to spread, even among vaccinated people and even in a strongly vaccinated country such as Israel, because the vaccines don’t protect from transmission or symptomatic cases nearly as well. But that doesn’t mean the vaccines don’t work, especially when it comes to preventing the worst of the disease.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/07/19/vaccine-skeptics-zero-israel-again-some-reason/

    I'll hang up and listen...
    I wish you would. Intentionally obtuse doesn’t look good on you.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,105
    gvn2fly1421 said:
    mrussel1 said:

    1. It gets awfully close to private information and certainly there are plenty of dickheads that would try to find out and publish who has COVID and who doesn't, among the WH staff.

    Not sure where your stance is on this, but I know plenty on this board feel that vaccines should be mandated.

    So, I cannot know how many people within the White House have covid, but they can make sure that I have had the vaccine?

    Also, this...

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/10/03/us/rose-garden-event-covid.html

    Inside the White House Event Now Under Covid-19 Scrutiny - The New York Times
    Link? Can we get a (fact check) on the blanket statement of, “plenty on this board feel that vaccines should be mandated.” Was there a poll that I missed? Or just more same-same?
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  • Lerxst1992
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    gvn2fly1421 said:
    mrussel1 said:

    1. It gets awfully close to private information and certainly there are plenty of dickheads that would try to find out and publish who has COVID and who doesn't, among the WH staff.

    Not sure where your stance is on this, but I know plenty on this board feel that vaccines should be mandated.

    So, I cannot know how many people within the White House have covid, but they can make sure that I have had the vaccine?

    Also, this...

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/10/03/us/rose-garden-event-covid.html




    That’s accurate. For example an employer should not ask for your covid test result, as it is protected Heath information, but your vaccination status is not. An American  employer can ask you for proof that you are vaccinated. 

    Your picture of the Coney Barrett super spreader event was notable because it showed people in authority ignoring safety requirements and local regulations and many were infected as a result. That is not what happened with the breakthrough cases in the Biden admin. I think trump supporters know this but are making a dishonest comparison 

    If we were all honest with each other we would have a chance to get out of this mess, instead of misrepresenting the truth about the virus and vaccines.


  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,576
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Well, someone has seen the light.

    A conservative talk-show host who said 'you're probably safer not getting' the vaccine is now seriously ill with COVID-19, and his family is asking people to 'PLEASE GO GET VACCINATED!'

    A conservative radio talk-show host who had told followers that they were "probably safer not getting" the COVID-19 vaccine if they weren't at high risk is now hospitalized in serious condition with the coronavirus, his family said.

    Phil Valentine, who hosts "The Phil Valentine Show" on WWTN-FM in Nashville, Tennessee, contracted COVID-19 more than a week ago and "has since been hospitalized & is in very serious condition," his family said in a statement on Thursday.

    Valentine, 61, is "suffering from COVID pneumonia and the attendant side effects," the statement said, adding, "He is in the hospital in the critical care unit breathing with assistance but is NOT on a ventilator."

    Now that he's become ill with the coronavirus, he has "regrets" about his comments about the vaccines, his family said.

    Conservative Radio Host Who Downplayed Vaccines Seriously Ill With COVID-19 (businessinsider.com)

    Too f’n bad I’m done with these idiots you reap what you sow! Life is what you make it if you make it death rest your soul!
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  • Merkin Baller
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    Merkin Baller said:


    I'm old enough to remember when this forum had rules about trolling. 

  • mickeyrat
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,050
    well good to hear that some places are lifting restrictions.

    st louis city and county are back to indoor mask mandates starting monday 7/26. this is directly due to the high numbers of unvaccinated people here.

    also one of the largest hospital systems here are now issuing vaccine mandates that have to be verified by independent credentializing organizations by aug 13. . basically you have to get vaccinated and submit your card, have the card verified by independent organization, or you are banned from entry and doing business at that hospital system. i figured that was coming so my 2 teammates and i got our vaccines verified a few months ago.

    my purpose in my career now is to go in there and steal business from the unvaccinated reps at other companies. This has gone on long enough, and we are going in to get that fucking business.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,050
    forgot to state in my post that ususally whatever this hospital system does, the rest follow their lead. so those jabronis that did not get vaccinated are going to be in trouble. if you cannot get into a facility to do business, you lose. and it will be their own fault.
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