George Floyd Protests
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You’re all just fucking around with us.cblock4life said:
I’m with you on this one except none of these are shit holes (her/his words straight out of the trump dictionary). Where did that map come from anyway? Not in the article posted - at least that I saw (numbers where posted)...oh yes that’s where it came from, thats the same map trump used to enlarge the hurricane area.brianlux said:lindamarie73 said:
That’s lovely, but there is also this.....Notice the common theme who controls the politics of these now shithole cities.....Halifax2TheMax said:Average percentage by which the rate of police killings in a U.S. city decreases one year after its first Black Lives Matter protest
: 14Five years after its first Black Lives Matter protest
: 30
Shit hole cities?Portland: Home of Oregon Health and Sciences Hospital made my life possible again. NOT A SHIT HOLE.Oakland: Home of the A's, beautiful Lake Merritt and Jack London Square. NOT A SHIT HOLE.Los Angels: Home of Tommy Stinson. NOT A SHIT HOLE. Home of the Dodgers... well, OK, but what can I say? I'm a Giants fan.Chicago: I don't know. Maybe a shit hole?Austin: Come on! Austin City Limits. NOT A SHIT HOLEMinneapolis: Home of Paul Westerberg, the Replacements, Prince, Soul Asylum. Call that a shit hole? No way. NOT A SHIT HOLE.New York: The greatest city in the world. Gotta be nuts to call that a shit hole. NOT A SHIT HOLE.Philadelphia: Home of brotherly love. NOT A SHIT HOLE.
How you trump lovers live with yourselves, look in the mirror (especially if you’re a woman or have a daughter) and believe all the bull is just so bewildering. It’s like you’ve all crawled out from your creepy shit hole houses after decades and decades just waiting for your leader to emerge. I mean come on, you trump supporters don’t really believe in him and what he stands for, right? You’re all just fucking around with us.
Seriously! Gotta be. Nothing else makes sense.
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lindamarie73 said:
That’s lovely, but there is also this.....Notice the common theme who controls the politics of these now shithole cities.....Halifax2TheMax said:Average percentage by which the rate of police killings in a U.S. city decreases one year after its first Black Lives Matter protest
: 14Five years after its first Black Lives Matter protest
: 30
...lol - show your math...0 -
Seattle, NYC and LA are having some problems. These cities do not look like what they used to...From 1985 to now I have been in these 3 areas/lived and i will say that they are definitely changing.brianlux said:lindamarie73 said:
That’s lovely, but there is also this.....Notice the common theme who controls the politics of these now shithole cities.....Halifax2TheMax said:Average percentage by which the rate of police killings in a U.S. city decreases one year after its first Black Lives Matter protest
: 14Five years after its first Black Lives Matter protest
: 30Shit hole cities?Portland: Home of Oregon Health and Sciences Hospital made my life possible again. NOT A SHIT HOLE.Oakland: Home of the A's, beautiful Lake Merritt and Jack London Square. NOT A SHIT HOLE.Los Angels: Home of Tommy Stinson. NOT A SHIT HOLE. Home of the Dodgers... well, OK, but what can I say? I'm a Giants fan.Chicago: I don't know. Maybe a shit hole?Austin: Come on! Austin City Limits. NOT A SHIT HOLEMinneapolis: Home of Paul Westerberg, the Replacements, Prince, Soul Asylum. Call that a shit hole? No way. NOT A SHIT HOLE.New York: The greatest city in the world. Gotta be nuts to call that a shit hole. NOT A SHIT HOLE.Philadelphia: Home of brotherly love. NOT A SHIT HOLE.
I was in Austin in 2009, 2014. Liked it there. Traffic sucked but for the most part I enjoyed it.0 -
Hopefully LA gets rid of our loser of a DA. Of course crime will rise when there are little to no repercussions...and of course, some people just can’t control their fucking selves (zero to do with homelessness, mental illness, etc.).0
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Ma'Khia Bryant's time in foster care should be investigated, Beatty and Brown say
Eric LagattaThe Columbus Dispatch
Three U.S. lawmakers, including two from Ohio, are requesting a federal investigation into 16-year-old Ma’Khia Bryant's time in foster care before she was shot and killed April 20 by a Columbus police officer.
Bryant was in a foster home and under the custody of Franklin County Children's Services when Columbus police officer Nicholas Reardon shot and killed the teenage girl as she swung a knife at another young woman. Reardon was among officers responding to a report of an attempted stabbing on Legion Lane on the city's Southeast Side.
Read More: Ma'Khia Bryant was helpful and kind, her friends and family say
Now, Congresswoman Joyce Beatty, D-Columbus, and U.S. Senators Sherrod Brown, D-Ohio, and Ron Wyden, D-Oregon, are urging the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services’ Administration for Children and Families to assist Franklin County Children's Services as it reviews the details of Bryant's case.
'I want to see my future’:What the shooting of Ma'Khia Bryant reveals about Black girlhood
In a letter addressed to Acting Assistant Secretary JooYeun Chang of the Administration for Children and Families and Acting Director Robinsue Frohboese in the Office for Civil Rights — both divisions of HHS — Brown, Beatty and Wyden are also requesting that the Office for Civil Rights launch an independent investigation into events leading to Bryant's death.
The three lawmakers said they are making the request on behalf of Bryant's biological parents, Paula Bryant and Myron Hammonds.
“The federal government has an obligation to protect the civil rights of all individuals, and especially those children, young people, and parents involved in federally-funded child welfare systems,” according to a joint statement from the lawmakers. “When a child dies in foster care, the system has failed. It failed Ma’Khia Bryant, who lived in her foster family home for about two months before a police officer shot and killed her in front of that home.
"Ma’Khia should be alive today."
Ma'Khia Bryant death: Former foster-care kids say youth ombudsman in Ohio could make a difference
Bryant's family had previously hired Columbus attorney Michelle Martin, who in late-April indicated she would request such an HHS investigation herself. As she blamed the girl's death on "a bureaucracy ill-equipped to protect" children "in their time of greatest uncertainty and need," Martin further said she would request that the U.S. Department of Justice investigate the shooting — a demand also made by Columbus Mayor Andrew Ginther and City Attorney Zach Klein.
In the meantime, the shooting is being investigated by the Ohio Bureau of Criminal Investigation and eventually will be presented to a Franklin County grand jury, which is routine procedure for all fatal uses of force by law-enforcement officers in the county.
Read More: Ma'Khia Bryant family attorney to investigate death, says 'bureaucracy ill-equipped to protect'
Martin confirmed to the Dispatch on Tuesday that she made a formal request to HHS for an investigation in early May.
Bryant spent two years moving between at least five different foster care homes, according to the three lawmakers.
The Dispatch had previously obtained documents revealing that in March 2018, Ma'Khia Bryant, a younger sister and two brothers (all juveniles) were placed in emergency custody of Franklin County Children's Services. She and her three siblings started out placed with a grandmother, Jeanene Hammonds, but after about 16 months, they were removed from her care and placed in a foster home — in part, state officials said, because Hammonds had lost her housing.
In January 2020, the agency filed a motion seeking permanent custody of the girls, a request that was still pending with the court at the time of Bryant’s death, according to past Dispatch coverage.
The Dispatch has requested comment from a spokeswoman with Franklin County Children's Services.
Read More: Ma'Khia Bryant's death, court records, raise questions about family, system's custody
In the letter sent to the federal agencies, the lawmakers posit that "the foster care system is broken" and refer to a nationwide shortage of foster parents.
The lawmakers cite data showing that Ohio children are placed in the foster care system at a rate 10 percent higher than the national average. Research also shows that Ohio lags other states in the financial support provided to a child in state custody who is placed with a kinship caregiver as opposed to a child placed in a licensed foster care setting.
The state doesn’t award equal pay to “kinship caregivers,” the official term for relatives who take in children, in apparent defiance of a 2017 order from the Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals.
Ohio pays its roughly 8,000 licensed foster parents anywhere from $300 to $6,000 a month per child, with additional funds paid for children with special needs. Kinship caregivers, however, are paid $310 a month per child for a period of only six to nine months, the Dispatch has previously reported.
Read More: Ma'Khia Bryant's family among those paid less than state's foster parents to take in kids
Additionally, the lawmakers referred to studies showing that young Black Americans are more likely to die in police shooting than young white Americans.
"These inequities played out in Ma’Khia’s life and are all too familiar for children and young people in the foster care system, particularly Black and brown children who are overrepresented in the child welfare system," according to the joint statement.
The lawmakers specifically requested that the Office for Civil Rights examine whether Ohio and the Franklin County Children's Services complied with federal requirements for foster care placement and removal, home standards, children's civil rights protections and safety risk assessments.
"One child’s death is one too many, and we cannot let these children slip through the cracks," the letter read. "I (we) support the request of Paula Bryant and Myron Hammonds to initiate an investigation into the circumstances leading up to Ma’Khia’s death so that they may receive the clarity they deserve on the death of their daughter."
elagatta@dispatch.com
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MN State Wire Minneapolis Impeachments Trials Death of George Floyd Explaining the News George FloydEXPLAINER: Chauvin's lawyer asks to probe alleged jury biasBy AMY FORLITI10 Jun 2021
MINNEAPOLIS (AP) — The defense attorney for the former Minneapolis police officer convicted of murder in the death of George Floyd is seeking not only a new trial but also a hearing to “impeach the verdict" by investigating potential juror misconduct.
Eric Nelson's request for a new trial for Derek Chauvin is fairly routine, but the request to investigate the jury is not. Prosecutors have until Wednesday to submit written arguments in response to Nelson’s requests. It's not clear when the judge will rule.
Here’s a look at some of the issues Nelson raised.
NEW TRIAL REQUEST
Chauvin was convicted in April of second-degree unintentional murder, third-degree murder and manslaughter in the May 25, 2020, death of Floyd, a Black man who was pinned to the ground for about 9 ½ minutes as he said he couldn’t breathe. Chauvin will be sentenced June 25.
A Minnesota judge has found aggravating factors in the death of George Floyd. The ruling paves the way for the possibility of a longer sentence for former Minneapolis Officer Derek Chauvin. (May 12)Nelson’s request for a new trial covers everything from the extensive publicity of the case to allegations of prosecutorial misconduct, arguing the state “belittled” Nelson's defense by calling his arguments “stories.”
He takes issue with the fact that records weren't made of sidebar discussions between attorneys and the judge, and he says the court abused its discretion by not allowing a man who was with Floyd on the day he died to testify. He also takes issue with the addition of a third-degree murder charge and with the state's cumulative evidence about the use of force.
Nelson alleges all of these factors deprived Chauvin of his right to a fair trial.
“It’s almost as if Eric is sort of repackaging all of the major objections he made throughout the trial into one brief and putting them back in front of (Judge Peter) Cahill one more time and asking him to reconsider,” said Brock Hunter, a Minneapolis defense attorney who has followed the case.
It's unlikely a new trial will be granted. Since Cahill already ruled on most of these issues, Hunter and other experts said he probably won't overturn himself. Still, experts say, Nelson has to try. He also has to present these issues in the trial court, if he wants to raise them on appeal.
“He’s zealously representing his client, as we are ethically bound to do,” Hunter said.
PRETRIAL PUBLICITY
Nelson said intense publicity — both before the trial and due to events during it — tainted the jury pool and prejudiced the jury against his client.
There were reports in February that Chauvin had been prepared to plead guilty to third-degree murder, an announcement during jury selection that Minneapolis reached a $27 million settlement with Floyd’s family, and the fatal shooting of Daunte Wright by a police officer in nearby Brooklyn Center, which happened during Chauvin’s trial and sparked days of protests.
Nelson said Cahill abused his discretion when he denied earlier requests to move the trial out of Hennepin County, postpone the trial and sequester the jury.
Ryan Pacyga, another Minneapolis defense attorney following the case, called the developments that came up during Chauvin’s trial a “perfect storm” and said the cumulative impact is worth noting. He said Nelson’s strongest argument may be that the case should have been delayed.
“If I were to think about any of those things happening in a case where I was defending somebody, I would be going crazy and have serious concerns about the impact -- either perceived or real -- on a fair trial,” Pacyga said.
REQUEST TO IMPEACH THE VERDICT
The term “impeach” in this context means to call into question the integrity or validity of a jury’s verdict.
Under Minnesota’s Rules of Criminal Procedure, a defendant can ask the court for a hearing to investigate possible juror misconduct. The hearing, known as a Schwartz hearing, gets its name from a 1960 Minnesota Supreme Court case that set up a procedure for examining jurors when their impartiality is questioned.
The case, Schwartz v. Minneapolis Suburban Bus Co., stemmed from an automobile accident. One of the jurors said during jury questioning that he could be fair and impartial, without disclosing that his daughter had been in an accident. According to text of the ruling published on casetext.com, there was dispute about whether he was asked a question about that during jury selection.
After the trial, an investigator for the defendant bus company interviewed the juror and learned about the accident; the juror told the investigator it influenced him to somewhat favor the plaintiffs.
To avoid having attorneys or investigators “harass” jurors by interrogating them, the Minnesota Supreme Court said if a juror’s untruthful answers to questions could prevent someone from getting a fair trial, it’s best to bring the matter before the trial judge. The juror may be summoned to court to answer questions.
ARE SCHWARTZ HEARINGS COMMON?
No. Pacyga said that's mainly because the judge and attorneys don’t usually know about issues like this unless they're disclosed somehow. He said the defense has a high bar to overcome to get a Schwartz hearing, and prevailing in one is even tougher.
In Chauvin's case, Nelson alleges an alternate juror, who did not deliberate, made public comments after the trial indicating she felt pressured to render a guilty verdict.
He also alleged that a juror who did deliberate, Brandon Mitchell, didn't follow jury instructions and was not candid during jury selection because he didn't mention his participation in an Aug. 28 march in Washington, D.C., to honor Martin Luther King Jr. Nelson also alleged Mitchell made comments indicating he based his verdict on outside influence.
Hunter said he expects the state will say Mitchell wasn't untruthful and that the march wasn't specifically about police brutality. Hunter noted Mitchell said during jury selection that he supported the Black Lives Matter concept.
“He wasn’t really trying to be evasive or hide the ball about where his viewpoints were during jury selection,” Hunter said.
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Find AP’s full coverage of the death of George Floyd at: https://apnews.com/hub/death-of-george-floyd
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Sentencing day? How many years does the cop get?Give Peas A Chance…0
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Prosecutors are asking for 30 years. I bet it'll be in the 20-25 year range...and there will people that'll probably get very pissed about that.Meltdown99 said:Sentencing day? How many years does the cop get?2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024: Philly 2, 2025: Pittsburgh 1
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Judge denied his request for a new trial.0
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Sentence is in: 270 months.Less than the 360 prosecutors requested, but still more than the sentencing guideline suggest for the offense (as I understand it).0
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He doesn't last 8 minutes and 46 seconds in gen pop.0
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22 1/2 years, for the mathematically declinedHugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0
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22.5, right in the middle. Maybe you can predict where my spare set of car keys went?Ledbetterman10 said:
Prosecutors are asking for 30 years. I bet it'll be in the 20-25 year range...and there will people that'll probably get very pissed about that.Meltdown99 said:Sentencing day? How many years does the cop get?0 -
He will never see general population. He’ll be under administrative custody or self lockup.Hobbes said:He doesn't last 8 minutes and 46 seconds in gen pop.Post edited by cblock4life on0 -
mace1229 said:
22.5, right in the middle. Maybe you can predict where my spare set of car keys went?Ledbetterman10 said:
Prosecutors are asking for 30 years. I bet it'll be in the 20-25 year range...and there will people that'll probably get very pissed about that.Meltdown99 said:Sentencing day? How many years does the cop get?
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Cell block C?cblock4life said:
He will never see general population. He’ll be under administrative custody or self lockup.Hobbes said:He doesn't last 8 minutes and 46 seconds in gen pop.0 -
C block is for the lifers (in our state). My husband loved working with the lifers.Hobbes said:
Cell block C?cblock4life said:
He will never see general population. He’ll be under administrative custody or self lockup.Hobbes said:He doesn't last 8 minutes and 46 seconds in gen pop.0 -
Just read this Guess that’s what they call it in Minnesotacblock4life said:
He will never see general population. He’ll be under administrative custody or self lockup.Hobbes said:He doesn't last 8 minutes and 46 seconds in gen pop.- He is being held in a single cell under 'administrative segregation' for his safety
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Administrativecustody4twentytwopointfivecblock4life said:
C block is for the lifers (in our state). My husband loved working with the lifers.Hobbes said:
Cell block C?cblock4life said:
He will never see general population. He’ll be under administrative custody or self lockup.Hobbes said:He doesn't last 8 minutes and 46 seconds in gen pop.
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Segregation will work well for that racist piece of shit.cblock4life said:
Just read this Guess that’s what they call it in Minnesotacblock4life said:
He will never see general population. He’ll be under administrative custody or self lockup.Hobbes said:He doesn't last 8 minutes and 46 seconds in gen pop.- He is being held in a single cell under 'administrative segregation' for his safety
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