2021 Tour Rumors - Let’s Go!!!!!!!!!!

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  • tdawe
    tdawe Posts: 2,091
    2017-2021 is a 5 year stretch that will see Pearl Jam play shows in a total of 6 geographic markets in the US.  That’s just over 1 a year.

    They couldn’t help the pandemic, sure.  But from today on, they have a golden opportunity to play shows, return to the live format.

    It’s pretty clear how low the desire to tour is when you’ve had 5 years off with a few shows scattered here and there and you still don’t want to capitalize on probably the most demand there has ever been for live music to happen
    I don’t really think “should we capitalize on generally high demand for live music?” is part of the equation for Pearl Jam. 
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  • PJNB said:
    I do not want to derail this thread more than it already is but the Foo Fighters are much more of a band than Pearl Jam is at this point. They seem to hang out with each other, are constantly recording. Hell, they are doing a Bee Gees cover EP. As much as it pains me as a super fan, Pearl Jam are a legacy act at this point. They do not want to play shows for whatever reasons and are far from an active band. I think the fire in Ed's belly is gone. I only single out Ed cause the rest of the band seem to be pumping out side projects all the time. Maybe once his children are in college he may be willing to tour more. Who knows.
    It is hard as a Pearl Jam fan watching these other bands do what they are doing this year but I am thankful we are getting at least 2 shows this year. I would never say they are a legacy act though. Them doing the sets that they do at this point in their career tells me this.  If you look at the FF's set of the past couple of tours, while stellar shows, the sets are all the same. if PJ copy and pasted as they did and toured more would you be more satisfied? I would not be. 

    We are in the 2-3 month window of when they like to announce shows for the US. Hopefully in the next couple of weeks they drop something for us to see this fall and then the spring 2022 dates follow soon after. 

    You are correct. I shouldn't have used legacy act. Guns n Roses are the definition of legacy act.
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,127
    nicknyr15 said:
    Zod said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    I can’t even explain how great it felt to be around 20,000 screaming fans just as happy to be seeing a show as I was

    Really hoping we hear something, anything, from Pearl Jam this week.  It’s time.


    It was absolutely insane. No reason why PJ can’t do the same. “PJ have more traveling fans” AND!!!??  Fully vaccinated only and if you can’t make it, sit this one out. They don’t need out of country fans to sell out in major markets like MsG. 

    I'm glad your not in charge, I really don't want to have to ditch my Oakland tickets... sigh.
    Wasn’t referring to the postponed shows. Talking about some new shows this year. 

    Damn I must of sounded like a dick haha. Sorry for the miscommunication. 
    They may be prohibited from scheduling new shows until they fulfill their contractual obligations for the postponed shows.  Or they just may be holding off because they have doubts about indoor safety and that the right thing to do is to play the postponed shows first.
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,598
    I want Pearl Jam to tour more, but I don't want them to be Dave Grohl and the Foo Fighters. 
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,598
    They were never going to be among the first bands back onstage. It was never going to happen. I do agree that there should be some communication about the postponed dates, but that too was unlikely to play out any other way than it has. 
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  • kotton_crown
    kotton_crown Posts: 214
    edited June 2021
    tdawe said:
    2017-2021 is a 5 year stretch that will see Pearl Jam play shows in a total of 6 geographic markets in the US.  That’s just over 1 a year.

    They couldn’t help the pandemic, sure.  But from today on, they have a golden opportunity to play shows, return to the live format.

    It’s pretty clear how low the desire to tour is when you’ve had 5 years off with a few shows scattered here and there and you still don’t want to capitalize on probably the most demand there has ever been for live music to happen
    I don’t really think “should we capitalize on generally high demand for live music?” is part of the equation for Pearl Jam. 
    Well I don’t think Pearl Jam has ever had to worry about there being demand for their shows, but they’re as big business as any band. A glance at the merch tells you that much. 
        The thing is they gave so much of their lives to the band for the first ~15 years and since they’ve settled down a bit and tour when they’re comfortable. And obviously that’s fine, I’m always just happy there’s upcoming PJ shows.  
  • 3days
    3days Posts: 1,200
    edited June 2021
    What is a legacy act? I've googled it, and legacy band. The answers seem vague and varied. My assumption is that it's a band or performer who lives opportunistically off their past, and expresses no real interest in the present, or future. 
  • mkay0
    mkay0 Posts: 45
    3days said:
    What is a legacy act? I've googled it, and legacy band. The answers seem vague and varied. My assumption is that it's a band or performer who lives opportunistically off their past, and expresses no real interest in the present, or future. 
    A band that milks their greatest hits to casual fans rather than endeavor to make more art. It's generally not a complement. 
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  • vedpunk
    vedpunk Posts: 960
    As fans, if we didn't do such a good job sustaining their business model by purchasing so much merch and streaming their old shows, they'd have more motivation to actually hit the road.  They've definitely earned that but it still sucks as a fan that wishes they still had the passion and desire to try new things outside of their comfort zone. (new cities, venues, live streaming, etc).  Always a fan to the end though.
  • mkay0
    mkay0 Posts: 45
    vedpunk said:
    As fans, if we didn't do such a good job sustaining their business model by purchasing so much merch and streaming their old shows, they'd have more motivation to actually hit the road.  They've definitely earned that but it still sucks as a fan that wishes they still had the passion and desire to try new things outside of their comfort zone. (new cities, venues, live streaming, etc).  Always a fan to the end though.
    'They don't need to make towns because we give them too much cash for merch' is really a big assumption here - mainly because it assumes they need money and that is their primary motivator. 
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  • iOnlyownMymind
    iOnlyownMymind Posts: 2,953
    Why be a real band at all when the can just put limited edition anything in the shop and it will sell out immediately. If they want to raise a little money for a charity here and there, that's all they have to do. 
  • RatherStarved
    RatherStarved Posts: 5,773
    20 new postings and not a single rumor! 
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  • vedpunk
    vedpunk Posts: 960
    edited June 2021
    mkay0 said:
    vedpunk said:
    As fans, if we didn't do such a good job sustaining their business model by purchasing so much merch and streaming their old shows, they'd have more motivation to actually hit the road.  They've definitely earned that but it still sucks as a fan that wishes they still had the passion and desire to try new things outside of their comfort zone. (new cities, venues, live streaming, etc).  Always a fan to the end though.
    'They don't need to make towns because we give them too much cash for merch' is really a big assumption here - mainly because it assumes they need money and that is their primary motivator. 
    Even though Pearl Jam produces art, they are a business with many employees. 
  • ComeToTX
    ComeToTX Austin Posts: 8,064
    If there was a member of FF that didn't want to tour that member would be replaced.  They've had plenty of guys go in and out.  If PJ has a member that doesn't want to tour one year then there won't be a tour that year.  Huge difference.

    I'd also never want to see Eddie driving a truck in a Dodge commercial.
    This show, another show, a show here and a show there.
  • OceansJenny
    OceansJenny Manhattan, NY Posts: 3,409
    Pearl Jam is washed up and over, time to retire, they don’t care anymore… same old conversation for the past 25 years.

    Go see Foos twice and let me know how you feel. Not knocking them but it’s not 1:1. Plug and play is easier.
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  • D-Rod
    D-Rod Hamilton, Ontario Posts: 1,992
    20 new postings and not a single rumor! 
    Are you gutted, extremely gutted or F5 gutted ? 
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  • Weston1283
    Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 5,019
    Pearl Jam is washed up and over, time to retire, they don’t care anymore… same old conversation for the past 25 years.

    Go see Foos twice and let me know how you feel. Not knocking them but it’s not 1:1. Plug and play is easier.
    Not saying this at all, in fact quite the opposite.

    They are still so god damned excellent live, which is what makes it so frustrating to see years of them in their older prime going to waste.  Every band eventually becomes a legacy act, that’s inevitable, and they’re far from it, but I want to enjoy them in their current form as much as we can.

    Ive also said before a Foo fighters concert doesn’t even compare to a Pearl Jam concert, but…

    One of them played a sold out MSG last night and is going on Tour in a few weeks
     
    The other is advertising on Instagram for a video stream of an old show and selling Tshirts and posters for it while their dedicated fans enter their 16th month of waiting for a tour update

    That’s the difference 
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  • RP112579
    RP112579 Tinley Park, IL Posts: 3,388
    Pearl Jam is washed up and over, time to retire, they don’t care anymore… same old conversation for the past 25 years.

    Go see Foos twice and let me know how you feel. Not knocking them but it’s not 1:1. Plug and play is easier.
    Not saying this at all, in fact quite the opposite.

    They are still so god damned excellent live, which is what makes it so frustrating to see years of them in their older prime going to waste.  Every band eventually becomes a legacy act, that’s inevitable, and they’re far from it, but I want to enjoy them in their current form as much as we can.

    Ive also said before a Foo fighters concert doesn’t even compare to a Pearl Jam concert, but…

    One of them played a sold out MSG last night and is going on Tour in a few weeks
     
    The other is advertising on Instagram for a video stream of an old show and selling Tshirts and posters for it while their dedicated fans enter their 16th month of waiting for a tour update

    That’s the difference 
    One of them saw 9 people get crushed to death right in front of them, and will be overly cautious because safety is their number 1 priority.

    The other played the Garden last night.
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  • Weston1283
    Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 5,019
    edited June 2021
    RP112579 said:
    Pearl Jam is washed up and over, time to retire, they don’t care anymore… same old conversation for the past 25 years.

    Go see Foos twice and let me know how you feel. Not knocking them but it’s not 1:1. Plug and play is easier.
    Not saying this at all, in fact quite the opposite.

    They are still so god damned excellent live, which is what makes it so frustrating to see years of them in their older prime going to waste.  Every band eventually becomes a legacy act, that’s inevitable, and they’re far from it, but I want to enjoy them in their current form as much as we can.

    Ive also said before a Foo fighters concert doesn’t even compare to a Pearl Jam concert, but…

    One of them played a sold out MSG last night and is going on Tour in a few weeks
     
    The other is advertising on Instagram for a video stream of an old show and selling Tshirts and posters for it while their dedicated fans enter their 16th month of waiting for a tour update

    That’s the difference 
    One of them saw 9 people get crushed to death right in front of them, and will be overly cautious because safety is their number 1 priority.

    The other played the Garden last night.
    Comparing that tragedy to going to a post covid vaccinated concert is a weak argument.  Our leaders, scientists and doctors have agreed that it safe for vaccinated people to gather.  There was absolutely nothing unsafe about last night.
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  • RP112579
    RP112579 Tinley Park, IL Posts: 3,388
    RP112579 said:
    Pearl Jam is washed up and over, time to retire, they don’t care anymore… same old conversation for the past 25 years.

    Go see Foos twice and let me know how you feel. Not knocking them but it’s not 1:1. Plug and play is easier.
    Not saying this at all, in fact quite the opposite.

    They are still so god damned excellent live, which is what makes it so frustrating to see years of them in their older prime going to waste.  Every band eventually becomes a legacy act, that’s inevitable, and they’re far from it, but I want to enjoy them in their current form as much as we can.

    Ive also said before a Foo fighters concert doesn’t even compare to a Pearl Jam concert, but…

    One of them played a sold out MSG last night and is going on Tour in a few weeks
     
    The other is advertising on Instagram for a video stream of an old show and selling Tshirts and posters for it while their dedicated fans enter their 16th month of waiting for a tour update

    That’s the difference 
    One of them saw 9 people get crushed to death right in front of them, and will be overly cautious because safety is their number 1 priority.

    The other played the Garden last night.
    This is a weak argument.  Our leaders, scientists and doctors have agreed that it safe for vaccinated people to gather.  There was absolutely nothing unsafe about last night.
    That's great, and I have no issue with Foo Fighters playing last night... You're just failing to grasp why they do things differently. Jeff said it himself. They are going to hang back and wait to see how all of this goes with other bands. 6/30/2000 is why. It has nothing to do with scientists, leaders or doctors. If you're mad they aren't moving at your pace, then that's on you. You don't have to live with 6/30/2000 either. 
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