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  • Spunkie
    Spunkie i come from downtown. Posts: 7,095
    edited May 2021
    ^ My overall point or political concern is that children will get pressured to vaccinate to make up for adults who don't.
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  • Weston1283
    Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 5,027
    Shows in Vegas are resuming next month at 100% capacity without social distancing 

    https://www.travelandleisure.com/travel-news/las-vegas-gaming-floors-shows-reopening?utm_campaign=travelandleisure_travelandleisure&utm_content=link&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_term=60919f115510bd000133c211&fbclid=IwAR3gzo3IQxU35-cVFegGED4MOj6N_8BwKVqQcT84c1HMPj2XxCaGGgL7ZuQ
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 42,023
    Weston1283 said:
    Shows in Vegas are resuming next month at 100% capacity without social distancing 

    https://www.travelandleisure.com/travel-news/las-vegas-gaming-floors-shows-reopening?utm_campaign=travelandleisure_travelandleisure&utm_content=link&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_term=60919f115510bd000133c211&fbclid=IwAR3gzo3IQxU35-cVFegGED4MOj6N_8BwKVqQcT84c1HMPj2XxCaGGgL7ZuQ
    I'm not really excited about any of that...

    This is either going to prove people right or dead wrong like what is happening in India.
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Weston1283 said:
    Shows in Vegas are resuming next month at 100% capacity without social distancing 

    https://www.travelandleisure.com/travel-news/las-vegas-gaming-floors-shows-reopening?utm_campaign=travelandleisure_travelandleisure&utm_content=link&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_term=60919f115510bd000133c211&fbclid=IwAR3gzo3IQxU35-cVFegGED4MOj6N_8BwKVqQcT84c1HMPj2XxCaGGgL7ZuQ
    I'm not really excited about any of that...

    This is either going to prove people right or dead wrong like what is happening in India.
    How is that comparable to India with the vaccination rates the States has? 
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    I sit here, listening to a beautiful operatic voice and piano drifting through the window. A sign of the times, I suppose, that the Four Seasons next to us is hosting functions again.

    It sounds just lovely. 
  • Spunkie
    Spunkie i come from downtown. Posts: 7,095
    My airline offered me a refund today for my March 2020 flight. 

    Glad to hear, Hedonist.
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,715
    hedonist said:
    I sit here, listening to a beautiful operatic voice and piano drifting through the window. A sign of the times, I suppose, that the Four Seasons next to us is hosting functions again.

    It sounds just lovely. 
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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,554
    edited May 2021
    tempo_n_groove said:
    tish said:
    elvistheking44 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    What's everyones feeling on vaccinations for 12-16 year olds?  A hard no?  Wait awhile?  Sign up now?

    My ex is a nurse practitioner and wants to get our 12 year old son vaccinated right away, I'm opting to wait a few months just to see how it goes.  
    Very concerned on this one. I have a 15 year old who is probably one of the healthiest kids I know. Antibiotics 1 time in her life. Never sick always active and eats healthy as can be. She wants it….would like to hold off for her. The peer pressure on these kids is going to be crushing….
    I agree news is already saying do it for your family or you'll kill them, more or less.


    You'll kill them?  The virus doesn't kill everybody, that is a proven fact already.  If that's not fear mongering.

    Do you have an article or link about this?
    After 15 months,we are still here? It doesn’t kill you but you pass it along and kills your neighbor.


    If science says the vaccines are safe, what is the issue?

    A simple solution. If you don’t get vaccinated when it’s approved and available, you don’t get hospital care if you get infected.
    Post edited by Lerxst1992 on
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    Lerxst1992 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    tish said:
    elvistheking44 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    What's everyones feeling on vaccinations for 12-16 year olds?  A hard no?  Wait awhile?  Sign up now?

    My ex is a nurse practitioner and wants to get our 12 year old son vaccinated right away, I'm opting to wait a few months just to see how it goes.  
    Very concerned on this one. I have a 15 year old who is probably one of the healthiest kids I know. Antibiotics 1 time in her life. Never sick always active and eats healthy as can be. She wants it….would like to hold off for her. The peer pressure on these kids is going to be crushing….
    I agree news is already saying do it for your family or you'll kill them, more or less.


    You'll kill them?  The virus doesn't kill everybody, that is a proven fact already.  If that's not fear mongering.

    Do you have an article or link about this?

    If science says the vaccines are safe, what is the issue?

    A simple solution. If you don’t get vaccinated when it’s approved and available, you don’t get hospital care if you get infected.
    I’m not sure about denying hospital care (same could be said about cigarette smokers).  It would be fair to deny those people any other kind of COVID relief that may get passed around (tax breaks, etc), though.  Not sure how that would happen, though.
  • PJNB
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    Lerxst1992 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    tish said:
    elvistheking44 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    What's everyones feeling on vaccinations for 12-16 year olds?  A hard no?  Wait awhile?  Sign up now?

    My ex is a nurse practitioner and wants to get our 12 year old son vaccinated right away, I'm opting to wait a few months just to see how it goes.  
    Very concerned on this one. I have a 15 year old who is probably one of the healthiest kids I know. Antibiotics 1 time in her life. Never sick always active and eats healthy as can be. She wants it….would like to hold off for her. The peer pressure on these kids is going to be crushing….
    I agree news is already saying do it for your family or you'll kill them, more or less.


    You'll kill them?  The virus doesn't kill everybody, that is a proven fact already.  If that's not fear mongering.

    Do you have an article or link about this?

    If science says the vaccines are safe, what is the issue?

    A simple solution. If you don’t get vaccinated when it’s approved and available, you don’t get hospital care if you get infected.
    Curious on your thoughts on alcoholics and smokers getting treatment for their related diseases. 
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    I'm never in favour of taking away necessary health care, even in cases where we believe that the person contributed to their own condition. None of us have perfect health habits. It's a mean-spirited approach that is bound to increae resentment. Shaming people rarely leads to positive changes in behaviour. 
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  • mickeyrat
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  • PJNB
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    edited May 2021
    It looks like experts are predicting that non essential travel between the US and Canada border is going to happen this summer or fall. Hope it happens this summer. Would love to do a trip to New Hampshire again.

    Also it is May already and summer is coming fast. It is odd thinking about the states opening up to us when at the moment I can not even go to a neighbouring province and I have friends and coworkers that think that will be closed throughout the summer. It is hard to listen to all of the negativity each and everyday to be honest. That for me has been the hardest part of the pandemic. The non stop talk about it. I know I am lucky if that is the worse thing that I can say about the virus but its still hard on the head. 

    edit: it would be one of the hardest parts. Restrictions on the kids and no concerts is up there as well. 
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  • mickeyrat
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    PJNB said:
    It looks like experts are predicting that non essential travel between the US and Canada border is going to happen this summer or fall. Hope it happens this summer. Would love to do a trip to New Hampshire again.

    Also it is May already and summer is coming fast. It is odd thinking about the states opening up to us when at the moment I can not even go to a neighbouring province and I have friends and coworkers that think that will be closed throughout the summer. It is hard to listen to all of the negativity each and everyday to be honest. That for me has been the hardest part of the pandemic. The non stop talk about it. I know I am lucky if that is the worse thing that I can say about the virus but its still hard on the head. 

    edit: it would be one of the hardest parts. Restrictions on the kids and no concerts is up there as well. 
    we have an aa conference twice a year I am a part of that meets in oxley 45 min or so outside of windsor right on lake erie.

    missed the july conf last year and the feb this year. zoom is helpful but..... we all look forward to this retreat weekend. these people are like family. certainly hope we can organize and meet this year...

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  • hedonist
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    OnWis97 said:
    hedonist said:
    I sit here, listening to a beautiful operatic voice and piano drifting through the window. A sign of the times, I suppose, that the Four Seasons next to us is hosting functions again.

    It sounds just lovely. 
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    Hotel :)
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 42,023
    Lerxst1992 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    tish said:
    elvistheking44 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    What's everyones feeling on vaccinations for 12-16 year olds?  A hard no?  Wait awhile?  Sign up now?

    My ex is a nurse practitioner and wants to get our 12 year old son vaccinated right away, I'm opting to wait a few months just to see how it goes.  
    Very concerned on this one. I have a 15 year old who is probably one of the healthiest kids I know. Antibiotics 1 time in her life. Never sick always active and eats healthy as can be. She wants it….would like to hold off for her. The peer pressure on these kids is going to be crushing….
    I agree news is already saying do it for your family or you'll kill them, more or less.


    You'll kill them?  The virus doesn't kill everybody, that is a proven fact already.  If that's not fear mongering.

    Do you have an article or link about this?
    After 15 months,we are still here? It doesn’t kill you but you pass it along and kills your neighbor.


    If science says the vaccines are safe, what is the issue?

    A simple solution. If you don’t get vaccinated when it’s approved and available, you don’t get hospital care if you get infected.
    Putting fear into your kid and telling them if you don’t get the vaccination it will kill them isn’t fucked up to you?  

    Yeah, after 15 months I thought we were way beyond that crap.
  • tempo_n_groove
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    PJNB said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Weston1283 said:
    Shows in Vegas are resuming next month at 100% capacity without social distancing 

    https://www.travelandleisure.com/travel-news/las-vegas-gaming-floors-shows-reopening?utm_campaign=travelandleisure_travelandleisure&utm_content=link&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_term=60919f115510bd000133c211&fbclid=IwAR3gzo3IQxU35-cVFegGED4MOj6N_8BwKVqQcT84c1HMPj2XxCaGGgL7ZuQ
    I'm not really excited about any of that...

    This is either going to prove people right or dead wrong like what is happening in India.
    How is that comparable to India with the vaccination rates the States has? 
    We may be opening up to capacity a little sooner than expected and it might be a bad idea, kind of like what India did.  Maybe not, but that is my correlation. 

    So, I am not excited about any of that.  You like Vegas?
  • 23scidoo
    23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 20,239
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  • PJNB
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    tempo_n_groove said:
    PJNB said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Weston1283 said:
    Shows in Vegas are resuming next month at 100% capacity without social distancing 

    https://www.travelandleisure.com/travel-news/las-vegas-gaming-floors-shows-reopening?utm_campaign=travelandleisure_travelandleisure&utm_content=link&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_term=60919f115510bd000133c211&fbclid=IwAR3gzo3IQxU35-cVFegGED4MOj6N_8BwKVqQcT84c1HMPj2XxCaGGgL7ZuQ
    I'm not really excited about any of that...

    This is either going to prove people right or dead wrong like what is happening in India.
    How is that comparable to India with the vaccination rates the States has? 
    We may be opening up to capacity a little sooner than expected and it might be a bad idea, kind of like what India did.  Maybe not, but that is my correlation. 

    So, I am not excited about any of that.  You like Vegas?
    I was just commenting on the fact that the states are way ahead of India with vaccinating people and do not find it comparable since India really did not even close down. 

    I think too its too early for 100%. I would like a couple months of easing restrictions to see how it impacts the numbers. Open up as you go all of the way to 100%. I am curious though what some people are expecting when in the US everyone that wants the vaccine has gotten it and the numbers are low. That is coming in the next 60 days its looks like and the summer months are surely going to drop cases along with it. When is it ok to open up 100%? 
  • mickeyrat
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