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Weston1283 said:static111 said:HughFreakingDillon said:OnWis97 said:cblock4life said:OnWis97 said:Bentleyspop said:Best/worst thing you can do to a troll is to IGNORE AND NOT RESPOND.There's a lot of frustration because the troll won.
He didn’t win these arguments; but in the real world he wins and we lose.Scio me nihil scire
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oftenreading said:HughFreakingDillon said:Ledbetterman10 said:HughFreakingDillon said:Ledbetterman10 said:That’s a good point on people that can’t be vaccinated for a medical reason. What are some of the medical reasons that would prevent someone from getting it?
and it also matters about viral load. if you don't have enough virus to get sick yourself, how much you pass on would be lesser, thus also preventing others from getting very ill. But @oftenreading is the best person to speak on such things.
This is a really good article that provides clear information on all of these questions.
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/yes-vaccines-block-most-transmission-of-covid-19
There is some interesting data in the article, but the short form is that we know that the available vaccines markedly reduce the risk of infection, not just symptoms or disease. That means that the immune system is preventing cells from being infected with virus, and if the cells aren't infected the virus doesn't replicate and so can't be transmitted to others. It still isn't zero, but it's a big drop - just how much of a drop seems to vary a bit from study to study and vaccine to vaccine.
Viral load does matter, for those who do get an infection. It is likely that the lower the viral load (i.e. fewer viral particles in the blood), the lower the rate of viral shedding and the lower the rate of transmission to others.
The rare person who can't get vaccinated, or the many who choose not to, are likely to face fewer potential exposure events if the majority of the population is vaccinated. They will still run some risk but certainly not as high as if no one was vaccinated. So individually they are "just as vulnerable" if they actually get exposed, but in practice less vulnerable since they are much less likely to get exposed.
Unless they hang out with a whole bunch of anti-vaxxers, I suppose.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
Masks work. Lockdown works . Vaccination works. Look at u.k i will post a video from prof tim spector. Which explains where we are now because of all 3 of the above.
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mrussel1 said:gvn2fly1421 said:dignin said:
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gvn2fly1421 said:dignin said:jesus greets me looks just like me ....0
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mcgruff10 said:mickeyrat said:mcgruff10 said:What's everyones feeling on vaccinations for 12-16 year olds? A hard no? Wait awhile? Sign up now?
My ex is a nurse practitioner and wants to get our 12 year old son vaccinated right away, I'm opting to wait a few months just to see how it goes.data from their trials should available. compare those with the data from the earlier trials, the gen population and the 16 and up one. and you now have the data from theseveral months of widespread use.do you trust his mothers clinical experience and expertise?and your son, how astute is he? should he have some input in to getting it or not?Do I trust my ex? Oh man where do I begin?jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
mcgruff10 said:mickeyrat said:mcgruff10 said:What's everyones feeling on vaccinations for 12-16 year olds? A hard no? Wait awhile? Sign up now?
My ex is a nurse practitioner and wants to get our 12 year old son vaccinated right away, I'm opting to wait a few months just to see how it goes.data from their trials should available. compare those with the data from the earlier trials, the gen population and the 16 and up one. and you now have the data from theseveral months of widespread use.do you trust his mothers clinical experience and expertise?and your son, how astute is he? should he have some input in to getting it or not?Do I trust my ex? Oh man where do I begin?
I didnt say trust your ex. I said trust her clinical experience and expertise. she IS a trained professional isnt she?
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HughFreakingDillon said:Ledbetterman10 said:HughFreakingDillon said:Ledbetterman10 said:That’s a good point on people that can’t be vaccinated for a medical reason. What are some of the medical reasons that would prevent someone from getting it?
and it also matters about viral load. if you don't have enough virus to get sick yourself, how much you pass on would be lesser, thus also preventing others from getting very ill. But @oftenreading is the best person to speak on such things.
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Data suggests that a certain percentage of vaccine hesitant people would be swayed by a financial incentive or the opportunity to relax some restrictions, such as masks.my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0
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lastexitlondon said:HughFreakingDillon said:Ledbetterman10 said:HughFreakingDillon said:Ledbetterman10 said:That’s a good point on people that can’t be vaccinated for a medical reason. What are some of the medical reasons that would prevent someone from getting it?
and it also matters about viral load. if you don't have enough virus to get sick yourself, how much you pass on would be lesser, thus also preventing others from getting very ill. But @oftenreading is the best person to speak on such things.0 -
oftenreading said:Data suggests that a certain percentage of vaccine hesitant people would be swayed by a financial incentive or the opportunity to relax some restrictions, such as masks.0
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oftenreading said:HughFreakingDillon said:Ledbetterman10 said:That’s a good point on people that can’t be vaccinated for a medical reason. What are some of the medical reasons that would prevent someone from getting it?
People on all sorts of blood thinners and people with clotting disorders can still get vaccinated. They should let the person doing the vaccination know but it's not a contraindication.
I can't find any other contraindications. There are some conditions for which we don't have much, if any, data, so some care providers are being cautious, but nothing else is an absolute contraindication that I'm aware of.0 -
oftenreading said:Data suggests that a certain percentage of vaccine hesitant people would be swayed by a financial incentive or the opportunity to relax some restrictions, such as masks.
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I'm way too preoccupied to find the source, but I think I heard on TV the other day that new infections are down 26% ????
Evidence that the vaccinations are working???0 -
mrussel1 said:lastexitlondon said:HughFreakingDillon said:Ledbetterman10 said:HughFreakingDillon said:Ledbetterman10 said:That’s a good point on people that can’t be vaccinated for a medical reason. What are some of the medical reasons that would prevent someone from getting it?
and it also matters about viral load. if you don't have enough virus to get sick yourself, how much you pass on would be lesser, thus also preventing others from getting very ill. But @oftenreading is the best person to speak on such things.
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mrussel1 said:lastexitlondon said:HughFreakingDillon said:Ledbetterman10 said:HughFreakingDillon said:Ledbetterman10 said:That’s a good point on people that can’t be vaccinated for a medical reason. What are some of the medical reasons that would prevent someone from getting it?
and it also matters about viral load. if you don't have enough virus to get sick yourself, how much you pass on would be lesser, thus also preventing others from getting very ill. But @oftenreading is the best person to speak on such things.
for the US , 1% of 100 million us vaccinated is still a number of people..
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what dreams said:I'm way too preoccupied to find the source, but I think I heard on TV the other day that new infections are down 26% ????
Evidence that the vaccinations are working???0 -
oftenreading said:Data suggests that a certain percentage of vaccine hesitant people would be swayed by a financial incentive or the opportunity to relax some restrictions, such as masks.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0
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