Russia's Influence On The American Election

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  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,786
    mrussel1 said:
    benjs said:
    CM189191 said:
    ^
    That coming from the senate with a republican chairing the committee seems pretty noteworthy...
    I believe we are seeing the first steps of the GOP throwing the trump family under the bus.  

    They are trying to look like heros just in time for re-election.
    Right from the get-go, the relationship between Trump and the GOP has seemed a convenient alliance for both, and it makes sense that when that relationship became one-sided, it’d be severed and the more powerful of the two would exploit the situation for their own benefit. You could be right that this is the start.
    I don't agree.  I think being in the majority is more important to them.  If they damage Trump, it suppresses turnout which affects the majority.  Power is always the catalyst and they have it now in the Senate. 
    Suppressed turnout always benefits the GOP
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  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,786
    CM189191 said:
    ^
    That coming from the senate with a republican chairing the committee seems pretty noteworthy...
    I believe we are seeing the first steps of the GOP throwing the trump family under the bus.  

    They are trying to look like heros just in time for re-election.
    I doubt they’re trying to be heroes by abandoning Team Trump Treason as some of them are in deep red Team Trump Treason states. However, it will become a campaign issue where they’ll be portrayed as more loyal to Team Trump Treason rather than the American institution, ideals and values they have the pleasure and privilege of serving, particularly in Senate races. Establishment repubs are fed up and it’s tough to be “law and order” when 400 + AGs say Team Trump Treason would be arrested if not for being POTUS. Oh, I can’t wait to hear how the evangelicals defend Liberty U’s porn star wannabe.
    There was a time when the GOP needed trump more than he needed them.

    GOP thinks this is their opportunity to regain control of their party.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,600
    CM189191 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    benjs said:
    CM189191 said:
    ^
    That coming from the senate with a republican chairing the committee seems pretty noteworthy...
    I believe we are seeing the first steps of the GOP throwing the trump family under the bus.  

    They are trying to look like heros just in time for re-election.
    Right from the get-go, the relationship between Trump and the GOP has seemed a convenient alliance for both, and it makes sense that when that relationship became one-sided, it’d be severed and the more powerful of the two would exploit the situation for their own benefit. You could be right that this is the start.
    I don't agree.  I think being in the majority is more important to them.  If they damage Trump, it suppresses turnout which affects the majority.  Power is always the catalyst and they have it now in the Senate. 
    Suppressed turnout always benefits the GOP
    I agree that voter suppression techniques benefit the GOP, but I'm speaking more about enthusiasm.  
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,477
    I’m sure Team Trump Treason will stand shoulder to shoulder with Putin on the ritz as he addresses the nation on the 4th of July from the steps of the Lincoln Memorial. What a week that’ll be!!!

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,477
    Get ready for the bodies to start piling up. Team Trump Treason will have blood on his hands. What do you think he and Putin on the ritz discussed when no one else was present?

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/24/us/politics/trump-barr-declassify-intelligence.html
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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,303
    edited June 2019

    Russia's manipulation of Twitter was far vaster than believed

    By TIM STARKS

     

    06/05/2019 06:00 AM EDT

    Russia's infamous troll farm conducted a campaign on Twitter before the 2016 elections that was larger, more coordinated and more effective than previously known, research from cybersecurity firm Symantec out Wednesday concluded.

    The Internet Research Agency campaign may not only have had more sway — reaching large numbers of real users — than previously thought, it also demonstrated ample patience and might have generated income for some of the phony accounts, Symantec found.


    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/05/study-russia-cybersecurity-twitter-1353543

  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,477
    dignin said:

    Russia's manipulation of Twitter was far vaster than believed

    By TIM STARKS

     

    06/05/2019 06:00 AM EDT

    Russia's infamous troll farm conducted a campaign on Twitter before the 2016 elections that was larger, more coordinated and more effective than previously known, research from cybersecurity firm Symantec out Wednesday concluded.

    The Internet Research Agency campaign may not only have had more sway — reaching large numbers of real users — than previously thought, it also demonstrated ample patience and might have generated income for some of the phony accounts, Symantec found.


    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/05/study-russia-cybersecurity-twitter-1353543

    Hey, but Team Trump Treason didn’t get elected because of Putin on the ritz’s manipulation of social media. Blacks stayed home.
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,072
    dignin said:

    Russia's manipulation of Twitter was far vaster than believed

    By TIM STARKS

     

    06/05/2019 06:00 AM EDT

    Russia's infamous troll farm conducted a campaign on Twitter before the 2016 elections that was larger, more coordinated and more effective than previously known, research from cybersecurity firm Symantec out Wednesday concluded.

    The Internet Research Agency campaign may not only have had more sway — reaching large numbers of real users — than previously thought, it also demonstrated ample patience and might have generated income for some of the phony accounts, Symantec found.


    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/05/study-russia-cybersecurity-twitter-1353543

    Hey, but Team Trump Treason didn’t get elected because of Putin on the ritz’s manipulation of social media. Blacks stayed home.
    How does twitter/Facebook keep people from voting if they really want to? 

    Sure they manipulated. It’s kinda sad so many are so easily manipulated. But im not buying the excuse that Russia let me from voting. 

    Now - because they tried to manipulate our election, the US needs to actually take action. Failure to do so is failure to protect the constitution and the people of the USA. 


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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,477
    dignin said:

    Russia's manipulation of Twitter was far vaster than believed

    By TIM STARKS

     

    06/05/2019 06:00 AM EDT

    Russia's infamous troll farm conducted a campaign on Twitter before the 2016 elections that was larger, more coordinated and more effective than previously known, research from cybersecurity firm Symantec out Wednesday concluded.

    The Internet Research Agency campaign may not only have had more sway — reaching large numbers of real users — than previously thought, it also demonstrated ample patience and might have generated income for some of the phony accounts, Symantec found.


    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/05/study-russia-cybersecurity-twitter-1353543

    Hey, but Team Trump Treason didn’t get elected because of Putin on the ritz’s manipulation of social media. Blacks stayed home.
    How does twitter/Facebook keep people from voting if they really want to? 

    Sure they manipulated. It’s kinda sad so many are so easily manipulated. But im not buying the excuse that Russia let me from voting. 

    Now - because they tried to manipulate our election, the US needs to actually take action. Failure to do so is failure to protect the constitution and the people of the USA. 


    It kept some from voting and influenced how some voted. Look no further than posts on this forum as to how easily people can be duped or believe something to be when in fact, it’s a far cry from reality. Putin on the ritz may not have prevented you from voting but he may have prevented others and I agree, it’s sad some are so easily influenced but then again, Team Trump Treason, “loves the uneducated,” and there’s a reason why and it’s not benevolence or charity.
     
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  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,786
    lol - entire russian gov't resigns
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,477
    And some still doubt the existence of a PTape? C'mon, now.

    President Trump's decision to cut nearly 10,000 troops stationed in Germany caught top officials at the Department of Defense, National Security Council and State Department unaware, according to Reuters.

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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,072
    I miss the days where the president seemingly being in partnership with Russia was the biggest issue we had.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,477
    80 page rebuttal to CYA Barr’s dismissal of the Flynn prosecution is summarized quite nicely here.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/06/10/trump-barr-abuse-power-michael-flynn-case-column/5337996002/

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,477
    Anyone following the news out of the Treasury Department tonight? Anyone care that it’s been confirmed that there was collusion between the POOTWH campaign and Putin on the ritz’s intelligence agencies. Remember, the repub senate couldn’t determine the “what” but did note the relationship. The question becomes, when did the POOTWH administration know the collusion had been confirmed and what did they do about it? All the while POOTWH was claiming “no collusion” and “the Russia hoax.”

    Suckers, and I’m sure there are some here who will claim, why does it matter, move on? Imagine, just imagine, if the black guy in the tan suit or the woman in the powder blue pant suit had done the same and POOTWH was never elected and would have won?Mmmmmmmm, dots.
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    Anyone following the news out of the Treasury Department tonight? Anyone care that it’s been confirmed that there was collusion between the POOTWH campaign and Putin on the ritz’s intelligence agencies. Remember, the repub senate couldn’t determine the “what” but did note the relationship. The question becomes, when did the POOTWH administration know the collusion had been confirmed and what did they do about it? All the while POOTWH was claiming “no collusion” and “the Russia hoax.”

    Suckers, and I’m sure there are some here who will claim, why does it matter, move on? Imagine, just imagine, if the black guy in the tan suit or the woman in the powder blue pant suit had done the same and POOTWH was never elected and would have won?Mmmmmmmm, dots.
    Yes, I think it's clear there was a sharing of informatoin from the campaign to Russian intelligence.  By definition, that's collusion.  Now that doesn't mean Trump himself knew, but the campaign did it. 
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,258
    mrussel1 said:
    Anyone following the news out of the Treasury Department tonight? Anyone care that it’s been confirmed that there was collusion between the POOTWH campaign and Putin on the ritz’s intelligence agencies. Remember, the repub senate couldn’t determine the “what” but did note the relationship. The question becomes, when did the POOTWH administration know the collusion had been confirmed and what did they do about it? All the while POOTWH was claiming “no collusion” and “the Russia hoax.”

    Suckers, and I’m sure there are some here who will claim, why does it matter, move on? Imagine, just imagine, if the black guy in the tan suit or the woman in the powder blue pant suit had done the same and POOTWH was never elected and would have won?Mmmmmmmm, dots.
    Yes, I think it's clear there was a sharing of informatoin from the campaign to Russian intelligence.  By definition, that's collusion.  Now that doesn't mean Trump himself knew, but the campaign did it. 
    BS he knew you’ll never convince me he didn’t know GOP totally shakes in their boots when ever Trump is involved they were totally taken over by his ilk! 
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,600
    mrussel1 said:
    Anyone following the news out of the Treasury Department tonight? Anyone care that it’s been confirmed that there was collusion between the POOTWH campaign and Putin on the ritz’s intelligence agencies. Remember, the repub senate couldn’t determine the “what” but did note the relationship. The question becomes, when did the POOTWH administration know the collusion had been confirmed and what did they do about it? All the while POOTWH was claiming “no collusion” and “the Russia hoax.”

    Suckers, and I’m sure there are some here who will claim, why does it matter, move on? Imagine, just imagine, if the black guy in the tan suit or the woman in the powder blue pant suit had done the same and POOTWH was never elected and would have won?Mmmmmmmm, dots.
    Yes, I think it's clear there was a sharing of informatoin from the campaign to Russian intelligence.  By definition, that's collusion.  Now that doesn't mean Trump himself knew, but the campaign did it. 
    BS he knew you’ll never convince me he didn’t know GOP totally shakes in their boots when ever Trump is involved they were totally taken over by his ilk! 
    Oh I believe he did, I'm just saying that there is not evidence from this that Trump knew.  But he's a liar and a cheater, so I firmly believe he did. 
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,258
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Anyone following the news out of the Treasury Department tonight? Anyone care that it’s been confirmed that there was collusion between the POOTWH campaign and Putin on the ritz’s intelligence agencies. Remember, the repub senate couldn’t determine the “what” but did note the relationship. The question becomes, when did the POOTWH administration know the collusion had been confirmed and what did they do about it? All the while POOTWH was claiming “no collusion” and “the Russia hoax.”

    Suckers, and I’m sure there are some here who will claim, why does it matter, move on? Imagine, just imagine, if the black guy in the tan suit or the woman in the powder blue pant suit had done the same and POOTWH was never elected and would have won?Mmmmmmmm, dots.
    Yes, I think it's clear there was a sharing of informatoin from the campaign to Russian intelligence.  By definition, that's collusion.  Now that doesn't mean Trump himself knew, but the campaign did it. 
    BS he knew you’ll never convince me he didn’t know GOP totally shakes in their boots when ever Trump is involved they were totally taken over by his ilk! 
    Oh I believe he did, I'm just saying that there is not evidence from this that Trump knew.  But he's a liar and a cheater, so I firmly believe he did. 
    Agreed!
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,477
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    Well, the Biden Administration’s un redacting of court filings in the Paulie Manaforte cooperation deal shows that he continued to lie about passing internal campaign polling data to Kliminik, knowing it would be passed to Putin on the ritz’s intelligence agencies in an effort to help POOTWH and hurt Hillary. The prize or quid pro quo? A US hands off policy toward Putin on the ritz’s eyes on the Ukraine. How did the US intelligence agencies discover this? A foreign intelligence agency’s intercept of Putin on the ritz’s communications.

    Tell us again about the “no Russian collusion delusion” and while you’re at it, how’s that fruit from the poisonous tree tasting, traitors?

    https://www.rawstory.com/unredacted-mueller-documents/
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  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,786
    Some money laundering activity via Inaugural events? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm..........

    http://diffuser.fm/trump-inauguration-budget-107-million/?utm_source=sailthru&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=newsletter_5003207

    Four sources in the Trump camp told the Associated Press that the show cost $25 million to stage, and that the inaugural festivities raised a total of $107 million. By contrast, Steve Kerrigan, the head of Obama’s inaugural committee, revealed that the A-list celebrity-fueled show cost less than $5 million. “I couldn’t tell you how we possibly could have spent $25 million on a concert,” he said.

    Obama raised $53 million, half that of Trump, although the celebration sold 10,000 tickets — twice the amount sold for the Trump event — and had HBO paying for the rights to broadcast it. However, Trump likely raised more money because Obama — and George W. Bush before him — set a limit on personal donations towards covering costs, while Trump allowed unlimited personal donations and set a cap of $1 million on corporate donations.

    Trump’s committee had pledged to donate any surplus funds to charity but the AP report says that, as of now, the money has only gone to redecorating the White House and the vice president’s residence. Trump’s committee head, Tom Barrack, said earlier this year that “a full and clean external audit has been conducted and completed” but that the money wouldn’t be distributed until November. However, sources told the AP that they were unaware of any such audit, and one added, “They blew out their budgets on so many things.”

    “The thing about inaugural expenses, they’re not complicated,” Kerrigan said. “You take money in, you pay it out, and then you know what you’re left with when it’s done.”



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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,477
    CM189191 said:
    Some money laundering activity via Inaugural events? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm..........

    http://diffuser.fm/trump-inauguration-budget-107-million/?utm_source=sailthru&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=newsletter_5003207

    Four sources in the Trump camp told the Associated Press that the show cost $25 million to stage, and that the inaugural festivities raised a total of $107 million. By contrast, Steve Kerrigan, the head of Obama’s inaugural committee, revealed that the A-list celebrity-fueled show cost less than $5 million. “I couldn’t tell you how we possibly could have spent $25 million on a concert,” he said.

    Obama raised $53 million, half that of Trump, although the celebration sold 10,000 tickets — twice the amount sold for the Trump event — and had HBO paying for the rights to broadcast it. However, Trump likely raised more money because Obama — and George W. Bush before him — set a limit on personal donations towards covering costs, while Trump allowed unlimited personal donations and set a cap of $1 million on corporate donations.

    Trump’s committee had pledged to donate any surplus funds to charity but the AP report says that, as of now, the money has only gone to redecorating the White House and the vice president’s residence. Trump’s committee head, Tom Barrack, said earlier this year that “a full and clean external audit has been conducted and completed” but that the money wouldn’t be distributed until November. However, sources told the AP that they were unaware of any such audit, and one added, “They blew out their budgets on so many things.”

    “The thing about inaugural expenses, they’re not complicated,” Kerrigan said. “You take money in, you pay it out, and then you know what you’re left with when it’s done.”



    Read More: $107 Million for 3 Doors Down and Toby Keith? Donald Trump's Inauguration Budget Raises Questions | http://diffuser.fm/trump-inauguration-budget-107-million/?utm_source=sailthru&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=newsletter_5003207&trackback=tsmclip


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    And remember Les? How about this guy? He's still wanted in Chicago. And remember that lawyer's office that was raided in Chicago with all of those electronic devices seized? Oh Ruddy Ghouliani, where have you gone? Dots. Mmmmmmmmmmmmm, dots.

    Exactly why the money was sent to the wife of Parnas — the former Trump donor and Rudy Giuliani associate who has since turned on the president — is unclear. But Firtash provided key documents that Giuliani used to further his discredited claim that former Vice President Joe Biden engaged in wrongdoing in Ukraine.

    Questions over Firtash's alleged role in the effort to smear Biden deepened last week when Parnas said the oligarch's involvement stemmed from an explicit quid pro quo. In exchange for Firtash's help in their effort to damage Biden, Parnas told MSNBC's Rachel Maddow, he assured the oligarch they would make his U.S. legal troubles disappear.

    "For us to be able to receive information from Firtash, we had to promise Firtash something," Parnas said. "So for Firtash, it was basically telling him that we knew his case was worthless here and that he's being prosecuted for no reason. And that basically, it could get taken care of."

    In other words, according to Parnas: Guiliani, the former New York City mayor who made his name putting mob figures in prison as a U.S. attorney, was so eager to help Trump and hurt Biden that he turned to a man Ukrainian activists call their country's most dangerous oligarch — and offered the equivalent of a get-out-of-jail-free card.

    "Some folks might wonder what Mr. Giuliani was thinking. The better question is whether he was thinking," said Chuck Rosenberg, a former federal prosecutor and senior FBI official and now an analyst with NBC News and MSNBC. "This is so foolhardy and so reckless, that it is difficult to fathom what he was doing or how he thought it could succeed."

    Who is Dmytro Firtash? The man linked to $1 million loan to Giuliani ally has a shadowy past (nbcnews.com)

    And Ukrainian Oligarchs with ties to Putin on the ritz laundering ill gotten funds into "US property.":

    Ukraine imposes sanctions on former gas trader Dmitry Firtash | Financial Times (ft.com)

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,477
    Seems some of the Steele Dossier is true.

    WASHINGTON (AP) — Three Russian oligarchs who said their reputations were smeared by a dossier of opposition research examining Donald Trump's ties to Russia have agreed to dismiss their defamation lawsuit, according to a notice filed in federal court on Friday.

    Businessmen Mikhail Fridman, Petr Aven and German Khan sued Fusion GPS, a research and intelligence firm, and one of its founders, Glenn Simpson, in 2017. The men, cofounders of Russia-based Alfa Bank, alleged they had been defamed by various statements in a Democratic-funded dossier that Fusion had commissioned former British spy, Christopher Steele, to produce on the relationship between Trump and the Kremlin.

    On Tuesday, lawyers for Fusion GPS asked a federal judge to dismiss the case, noting that sanctions “illustrate in stark detail that the alleged defamatory statements are true, and surely must persuade any reasonable trier of fact that none of these Plaintiffs will ever succeed in meeting their burden of proving these statements false.”

    The United Kingdom included all three men in a round of sanctions this week, saying it was “going further and faster than ever in hitting those closest" to Russian President Vladimir Putin. The Treasury Department last month sanctioned Alfa Bank and other Russian financial institutions, and the EU has sanctioned Aven and Fridman.

    Alfa Bank has said that Fridman and Aven have stepped down from the board and that Khan has left the list of beneficiaries.

    The oligarchs gave no explanation for the dismissal, but their lawyers said in a single-sentence filing Friday that both sides had stipulated that the court action be “dismissed with prejudice as to all claims, causes of action, and parties, with each party bearing that party’s own attorneys’ fees and costs.” A lawyer for the plaintiffs didn't immediately return a message seeking comment.

    Oligarchs drop defamation lawsuit over Trump-Russia dossier (msn.com)

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,477
    Can’t wait for this investigation and criminal prosecution to progress. More dots! Who loves dots? And fruit from the poisonous tree?

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