No Boots ~ No Ed Pics

UKpearljammer · April 2008

PearlJamaholic wrote:

you cant say it isnt weird that there arent any vedder setlists or show pics up yet. when on the site itself they include into the wild as a pearl jam album.......

It is a bit weird there aren't any Ed setlists or pics but as for Into the Wild being on there, well so is Jack Irons album so not sure what your trying to say there.

Maybe he's just trying to be a bit protective of himself, after all it's his first body of work that he's put out and toured on his own, maybe he just wants to see how it goes. I also think it's kinda nice that something's a bit sacred and for the people that we're lucky to experience these shows, yet these days we all wanna piece of everything. What's wrong with them being kept under wraps a bit?

UKpearljammer · April 2008

PearlJamaholic wrote:

you cant say it isnt weird that there arent any vedder setlists or show pics up yet. when on the site itself they include into the wild as a pearl jam album.......

It is a bit weird there aren't any Ed setlists or pics but as for Into the Wild being on there, well so is Jack Irons album so not sure what your trying to say there.

Maybe he's just trying to be a bit protective of himself, after all it's his first body of work that he's put out and toured on his own, maybe he just wants to see how it goes. I also think it's kinda nice that something's a bit sacred and for the people that we're lucky to experience these shows, yet these days we all wanna piece of everything. What's wrong with them being kept under wraps a bit?

bionicamy · April 2008

I am sure there are pictures, videos, and boots out there. I saw them being taken at the shows.

Security at Santa Cruz was far more relaxed than at Berkeley.

Personally I love my boots listen to them every day BUT I do like the fact that I was lucky enough to be at these venues and share these memories with a limited number of people.

Good for Eddie for asserting his right and taking them down.
It is the artist right to release their work how they see fit. I may wish for something different but as a fan I do not deserve or expect any explanation.

nowayimfaithfull · April 2008

Im still here wrote:

this is just ridiculous

and to now delete Touch Base shows where Pearl Jam stands with their fans

(this is all about money.....)

if you want to diss all the fans for a $15.99 boot

or a $50 picture book

we might Love PJ, but we are not dumb

Wow you are so wrong. Do you remember the 98 tour. Pearl jam has pretty much destroyed the illegal boot market, with the help of maybee 3 other bands that have folllowed their pioneering.
Its amazing how so many new fans judge things on like the last 2 tours. Illegal boots used to sell for like 50 bucks a piece with horrible sound recordings in record stores. Than the band has tryed alot of differant methods to get the sound out. I for 1 usually have always been into cds, in 2000 they were 13 a piece in cheaper stores. I baught every one. Now the digital explosion took over and they offered 2 differant kinds of options for shows on the 06 tour. So even if they are selling shows for 16 bucks that is not bad for 2 cds. People have to remember the past and stop being so selfish, adjust your standards from spoiled to average. Now the book was 50 bucks becasue they wanted a nice book, I just didnt buy it, too expensive for my standards, but I didnt hate on the band and ruin my day over it.
Between this and the band sound quality sucks posts, people need to go back and read articels and learn alittle about the bands history, before they make statements about them that make no sense.
Sorry.

nowayimfaithfull · April 2008

Murderers wrote:

One minute Ed doesn't support Nader, the next minute we can't have boots. I don't want to believe he's selling out, but that's how things are looking.

I'll just have a little faith for now.

Ed doesnt support nader, Im sorry but honestly, nader dropped the ball on the goal line, he dissapeared after he lost. I would be pissed if he did. As far as selling out, when the lyrics get cheesey, than accuse him, but he still pours his heart out, and if he has changed things along the way, everyone does.
Now I kinds thought he did with comeback, but thank god they didnt release that song on radio.

nowayimfaithfull · April 2008

Im still here wrote:

funny thing is other bands aren't acting like this

STP is coming so maybe I will give 10C "the boot"

Are you fucking serious, go act like this in stps forum, they will laugh their ass of and curse you out, at least on here this freedom of speech thing allows you guys to post out your ass.
They have no ticket system unless they just implanted 1, they never change their setlists, and they never get involved with good causes. Its good music horrible shows and drugs. Than they do a great dissapearing act. PJ does something for their fans ever year.

nowayimfaithfull · April 2008

Flagg wrote:

Agreed. And they have this problem with just about everything.

I agree.
Yes they do, but other bands dont do half the things they do, so this comparison is made aginst them, not to bands like stp.

pjsteelerfan · April 2008

Just curious, in case I missed it, but has 10c said for sure there will never be Bootlegs? Until they do, I am not going to bash them. And if Ed did not want them done for his solo tour, that is his choice. I am pretty sure you wil be able to find boots of all the 2008 shows at some point.

nowayimfaithfull · April 2008

I have to add something to the stp post, becasue I choked on my breakfast and almost died from laughing so hard.
HOW CAN OTHER BANDS ACT LIKE THIS WHEN THEY DO NOT DO ANYTHING LIKE THIS.
Since when does stp tape their shows, they have been the same show for like the last 3 tours. They do not distribute tickets the same way.
Sure its easy for you too say stp didnt close their measage pit for boot trading, they never had 1. They also didnt even release a live album.

PureandEasy · April 2008

You’re looking for an explanation as to why no boots and no pictures??

How’s this – BECAUSE THEY SAID SO

I've never seen such a whiney group of people in my life

ScottZeagle · April 2008

jeffbr wrote:

At what point is it OK with you to ask questions?

The tour is almost over, at least one boot has surfaced and been squashed by 10C. It seems like the perfect time to ask questions.

Yeah...I was actually the guy who posted the link to the solo show...I guess I didn't realize that it was taboo...

I can totally see the reason why Ed doesn't want a bunch of camera flashes in his face, etc....but taping??

Ed has ALWAYS been pro-taping, and tapers are the QUIETEST people in the venue!! They don't talk during or between songs, they don't yell out "FOOTSTEPS!!" during every moment of silence, etc.

Is it just a coincidence that the forum that was used for trading was taken down at the same time that these sows started surfacing?? Maybe, but the timing is odd. Regardless of what the forum was originally designed for, it had evolved into the main place for trades, B&Ps etc. They could have easily changed the name of the forum, if it only had to do with the fact that the company was no longer involved.

Prior to the "official" bootlegs, the band never cared about taping....even when they were doing covers of songs, so using the "it has to do with who wrote the songs" defense doesn't hold much water, in my opinion.

Your mileage may vary.

Scott - who is happy to at least have one solo Ed show to live vicariously through, since I am in Florida...

ScottZeagle · April 2008

Interesting that the show that did get taped and released has been banned at Dime A Dozen, and appears to have been pulled from the Zomb tracker as well......however, all previous EV shows remain up....

Odd.

locked · April 2008

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

As far as the boots go, we were lucky to be paying only $10 for MP3s for so long. you take pearl jam and their unorthodox ways for granted. I remembered when the 2000 tour was released on CD. I went around raving about it to anyone who would listen. Really, a double-disc live album from one of the world's best live bands and it only costs $16. plus, you have the option of buying any show you want so you can buy shows you attended or pick and choose from the tracklists to get the specific songs you want. with what other band does that happen? Led Zeppelin released 3 live albums in their entire 40 year existance (The Song Remains, BBC Sessions, How The West Was Won). I got 'em. payed over $20 for each but they all rock and were well worth it. but I much preferred how I have had the choice of upwards (and maybe over) 300 Pearl Jam live albums over the past 10 years.....ranging from $10 via simple download to $15 for the sweet Binaural tour boots in the stores.

now as far as $50 picture books go, you just don't have to buy one. just like I don't have to (and never would) buy one.

Ledbetterman10, we must be twins separated at birth!

I agree 100%

locked · April 2008

anyone ever consider that they may have simply pulled the "touchbase" section to make way for whatever new medium/vendor partnership they will use for the Spring 2008 tour official bootlegs?

RedMosquito22 · April 2008

Im still here wrote:

funny thing is other bands aren't acting like this

STP is coming so maybe I will give 10C "the boot"

Whats your 10club number? Maybe I move up a slot in seniority. hahahaha

MattyJoe · April 2008

My3rdEye wrote:

This could be the case however Pearl Jam has released bootlegs and we freely trade many bootlegs with movie soundtrack songs on them including..

Long Road
You've Got To Hide Your Love Away
Hard to Imagine
Breath
State of Love and Trust
Man of the Hour
Love Reign O'er Me

Whatever the reason I think it will just be for this Ed solo tour. Perhaps it's because he's playing "Arc" at these shows. That song was left off of all official boots when they did it in 2003.

Hopefully it's because they plan on releasing official boots. Anyway, I'm happy with what we get from this band. I have more than enough boots to keep me happy for a long, long time.

Yeah but were those songs written and released in some way (singles or whatever) BEFORE they were decided upon for a movie (I might be wrong about this I'm just expressing the impression I got)? Into the Wild is different because it was literally written FOR the movie.

Tracer · April 2008

locked wrote:

anyone ever consider that they may have simply pulled the "touchbase" section to make way for whatever new medium/vendor partnership they will use for the Spring 2008 tour official bootlegs?

I dunno. . . last night, while commenting on how great the LA 2 crowd was, he said "I promise not to talk shit about you until I get to San Diego." There were laughs, and he followed that up with "See, this is why we stopped doing bootlegs."

MattyJoe · April 2008

Tracer wrote:

I dunno. . . last night, while commenting on how great the LA 2 crowd was, he said "I promise not to talk shit about you until I get to San Diego." There were laughs, and he followed that up with "See, this is why we stopped doing bootlegs."

Uh oh...

TouringFan2000 · April 2008

PearlJamaholic wrote:

but vedder has played solo shows before and taping was allowed then. so what changed now? 10c or the band dont owe us answers but i think we can ask questions. the 2000 bootlegs were for the fans, there was tons of talk about how little profit the band made off these. they just wanted the fans to have good sounding bootlegs. by 2005 it was about profit. i think there is some questionable things happening.

you cant say it isnt weird that there arent any vedder setlists or show pics up yet. when on the site itself they include into the wild as a pearl jam album.......

has 10C ever put set lists and pics up of the individual members of PJ doing their solo stuff? i'm just asking cause i can't ever remember them doing it.

i can't believe you think this band (or EV) is all about the profit. that's just fucked.

hopethatuchoke · April 2008

TouringFan2000 wrote:

i can't believe you think this band (or EV) is all about the profit. that's just fucked.

Not all about it but much much more so these days

No Boots ~ No Ed Pics

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