No Boots ~ No Ed Pics

UpSideDown

aspoonfulweighsaton wrote:

Yes.

Let me stress that I'm not referring to them issuing "official" boots, as I gave up on that last year.

Where/when was the announcement of this for pearl jam shows?

DixieN

I couldn't go to any of the shows and am happy with the taping policy. Why? If I could go to shows in the future with the same policy, I would undoubtedly have a better experience. I am sick of people being at an Ed or PJ show for every reason under the sun except to enjoy themselves and LET OTHERS do it TOO without deferring to taping considerations or photography lighting and angles. I am not at a show so that someone else can get THE perfect sound, picture, video, etc. I want to see the show. I want to be in the moment--which is nearly impossible to do when people are falling over themselves all around you to be doing something else. Also, I really, really hate cell phones at a show. Scream about your laundry some other time, please! Stop flashing me in the eye. Thank you Ed and PJ. I hope the no recording thing continues for every show.

SBC03

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vedderfan10

aspoonfulweighsaton wrote:

Like someone said earlier, they just don't think we're worthy of an explanation, ... this is a hardcore reversal on something they've prided themselves in.

I can assure you that I'm not the least bit "worried" about this and I'm sure I'll do more community service this year than you'll do in your lifetime.

Careful chosing your words and making assumptions.

Is it too hard to accept that for the Ed tour for whatever reason, the taping/photo policy was changed? Ed even said at one of the Vancouver shows he was hesitant to say certain things onstage because they'd end up on YouTube and then the whole world would hear it (something like that)...it's sad to hear him say that...sounds like it might mean he has to censor himself...And taping wasn't so much an issue pre-YouTube...and video editing and photoshopping have also changed so much in the past couple of years...try to understand what the artist is saying rather than feeling angry you're missing out or something. It seems not be be about money...

HermanBloom

Im still here wrote:

funny thing is other bands aren't acting like this

STP is coming so maybe I will give 10C "the boot"

What the hell is STP doing that isn't so high and mighty? They only reason they got together was because of money. Weiland needs money for his drug habit. See you later; go have fun with one of the worst bands in the world who completely ripped off all of the Seattle bands.

Im still here

Ed and Pearl Jam could take a clue

do more drugs, the music was better when you did.............

hopethatuchoke

nathanastin wrote:

Weiland needs money for his drug habit

What an ignorant statement.

nathanastin wrote:

See you later; go have fun with one of the worst bands in the world who completely ripped off all of the Seattle bands.

Are you kidding me? Have you ever listened to Purple or Tiny Music? Both are lightyears better than Binaural or Riot Act and probably Avocado too. I'll admit Core was somewhat grungy but everything after that is unique. You can dislike them but calling them one of the worst bands in the world? Give me a break.

Vedderlution_Baby

Why are you guys so quick to turn on a band you like so much? Am I happy with the policy...no, not really. I like having a few pics to remind me of a show and wouldn't mind having a boot either. But for everyone to already make the assumption that Ed has completely gone off the deep end for no apparent reason is pretty ridiculous and short sighted. Why not wait and see what's going to happen before saying all of these things? i think Ed atleast deserves some patience with this. And then, if nothing comes of it, and there's still no clear reason for it, then bitch. And bitch until your fingers fall off. And if your number is better than mine, go ahead and quit the club too.

HermanBloom

hopethatuchoke wrote:

What an ignorant statement.





Are you kidding me? Have you ever listened to Purple or Tiny Music? Both are lightyears better than Binaural or Riot Act and probably Avocado too. I'll admit Core was somewhat grungy but everything after that is unique. You can dislike them but calling them one of the worst bands in the world? Give me a break.

You saying it is ignorant does not mean it isn't true. The most selfish, terrible frontman of all time. Screws every band he's involved with. Yes, I have heard those albums and they suck and do not hold a candle to anything PJ has ever done. Go to their message board; remember this board is about Pearl Jam.

MattyJoe

hopethatuchoke wrote:

Are you kidding me? Have you ever listened to Purple or Tiny Music? Both are lightyears better than Binaural or Riot Act and probably Avocado too. I'll admit Core was somewhat grungy but everything after that is unique. You can dislike them but calling them one of the worst bands in the world? Give me a break.

So basically STP's best albums are comparable to PJ's worst?




(Not to say Binaural or Riot Act are bad...)

PJGARDEN

Im still here wrote:

Ed and Pearl Jam could take a clue

do more drugs, the music was better when you did.............

This is one of the most ignorant statements I have ever heard.

Im still here

PJGARDEN wrote:

This is one of the most ignorant statements I have ever heard.

it's just the truth

jeffbr

Vedderfan10 wrote:

And once again - get over your sense of entitlement...

What you seem unable to comprehend is that people can ask questions without feeling entitled.

PJ has a policy for years and years. That policy suddenly changes with no explanation, and the policy is vigorously enforced. People are simply asking why.

And PJ is a business. We are the consumers. When a business changes their offerings or policies, consumers are not asking for something for free (ie entitlements) consumers are asking why the product has changed, and providing feedback to the business.

Perhaps you need to get over your puppy love of the band.

jeffbr

Vedderlution_Baby! wrote:

Why not wait and see what's going to happen before saying all of these things?

At what point is it OK with you to ask questions?

The tour is almost over, at least one boot has surfaced and been squashed by 10C. It seems like the perfect time to ask questions.

Vedderlution_Baby

jeffbr wrote:

At what point is it OK with you to ask questions?

The tour is almost over, at least one boot has surfaced and been squashed by 10C. It seems like the perfect time to ask questions.

You are the only person who has problems understanding what I write.

jeffbr

Vedderlution_Baby! wrote:

You are the only person who has problems understanding what I write.

I am amazed that you were able to poll so many people so quickly. You have amazing superpowers.

Vedderlution_Baby

jeffbr wrote:

I am amazed that you were able to poll so many people so quickly. You have amazing superpowers.

Yea, yea. the part you quoted had nothing to do with me saying "Don't ask questions now...wait". Why? Because I said absolutely nothing along those lines. I said wait before you start to BITCH about the policy and how much Ed has sold out and how it's unfair and just his ego getting in the way...etc...etc.

My3rdEye

MattyJoe wrote:

I always thought the reason for no Ed taping was because of the fact that those songs are part of the movie soundtrack and movie executives weren't warming up to those songs being bootlegged. If that's not the exact reason I think the real reason is something just as simple. There's no great conspiracy being conducted.

This could be the case however Pearl Jam has released bootlegs and we freely trade many bootlegs with movie soundtrack songs on them including..

Long Road
You've Got To Hide Your Love Away
Hard to Imagine
Breath
State of Love and Trust
Man of the Hour
Love Reign O'er Me

Whatever the reason I think it will just be for this Ed solo tour. Perhaps it's because he's playing "Arc" at these shows. That song was left off of all official boots when they did it in 2003.

Hopefully it's because they plan on releasing official boots. Anyway, I'm happy with what we get from this band. I have more than enough boots to keep me happy for a long, long time.

SoonForgotten2

jeffbr wrote:

What you seem unable to comprehend is that people can ask questions without feeling entitled.

PJ has a policy for years and years. That policy suddenly changes with no explanation, and the policy is vigorously enforced. People are simply asking why.

And PJ is a business. We are the consumers. When a business changes their offerings or policies, consumers are not asking for something for free (ie entitlements) consumers are asking why the product has changed, and providing feedback to the business.

Perhaps you need to get over your puppy love of the band.

Exactly what policy has Pearl Jam changed? And I mean real changes that have occurred, as opposed to assumptions pulled out of the air by many here.

Kushikushun

I am thinking changes will be coming soon. It seems like they are setting up some things anew. Just be patient in the meantime I reckon...

I do agree that it would be nice if we would get some explanations, that is for the grounded people in here (edit:There will always be ppl moaning about anything anyways)
They do not own us any explanation at all, it just would be nice. I can make up plenty of good reasons on my own...it just would be nice...

And people, be sweet!