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  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    Ok, but what they’re doing is so much worse than cancelling and will likely have the same effect. 
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,791
    Yeah, people were clutching their pearls about Dr Seuss getting cancelled recently, and Dr Seuss wasn't cancelled, so I'm inclined to pump the breaks a little on this one. 
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,395
    Bob Saget?  Really?  Is everyone new to his jokes?  When he was asked to join Fullhouse in the beginning as a level headed, loving and understand father EVERYONE that knew him laughed at him playing that role.

    Dude is raunchy and funny.
  • Halifax2TheMax
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  • Merkin Baller
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    I feel like the real cancel culture is being perilously ignored. 



  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,122
    I feel like the real cancel culture is being perilously ignored. 



    i am sure many states would welcome these companies. 

    i know missouri would welcome american airlines, since lambert airport is no longer a hub for any of the major carriers like they used to be.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,122
    republicans are calling for the cancelation of baseball now. one of them is even threatening to bring antitrust legislation against them.

    but, but but, cancel culture!!!!!!
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  • Merkin Baller
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    republicans are calling for the cancelation of baseball now. one of them is even threatening to bring antitrust legislation against them.

    but, but but, cancel culture!!!!!!
    Never mind that noise.

    Is Bob Saget ok? 

    Gina Carano? 
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,122
    republicans are calling for the cancelation of baseball now. one of them is even threatening to bring antitrust legislation against them.

    but, but but, cancel culture!!!!!!
    Never mind that noise.

    Is Bob Saget ok? 

    Gina Carano? 
    i don't know, but sean spicer just tweeted that we need to boycott mlb.

    oh the irony.

    i remember them trying to cancel nascar when they banned the confederate flag.
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  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,091
    Why are they wanting to cancel baseball? 
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,122
    static111 said:
    Why are they wanting to cancel baseball? 
    because baseball is moving the all star game and the draft out of GA due to the new voter laws.
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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,791

    All the right wing free speech advocates seem very quiet... maybe they're just on vacation with the #BlueLivesMatter and #SaveTheChildren crowds? 


  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,091
    static111 said:
    Why are they wanting to cancel baseball? 
    because baseball is moving the all star game and the draft out of GA due to the new voter laws.
    How anyone can support the GOP is beyond me lol. Let’s boycott baseball because they support civil rights.  Any of you GOPers care to chime in how you can support such a corrupt group? Or is that just the cost of “lower taxes and small government”
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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    It’s all become more tiresome than troubling to me. And that’s sad. 
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Don’t forget freedumb. Because freedumb isn’t free. And don’t forget guns along with lower taxes and small government.
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  • Merkin Baller
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    hedonist said:
    It’s all become more tiresome than troubling to me. And that’s sad. 

    You're not troubled by elected officials trying to punish corporations for their speech? 
  • hedonist
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    hedonist said:
    It’s all become more tiresome than troubling to me. And that’s sad. 

    You're not troubled by elected officials trying to punish corporations for their speech? 
    Oh, I am! I’m just tired of it more. By now. After everything, during everything. 

    It never changes or ends. 
  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
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    So what are the problems with Georgia's law? It looks like people can get food and water; just not within 150 feet of the polling place, which is the same law for candidates and lobbyists. I don't exactly think a bottle of Dasani and bag of Cheetos is a bribe, but I see the point. 

    The other thing is the Sec of State losing his role to be replaced by a non-elected official appointed by the legislature.  Doesn't seem problematic on its face (though it does smack of reacting to the Sec of State not handing the state to Trump like he was supposed to).

    It would be naïve to not consider the possibility that this is a power grab and/or voting suppression move, but I'm not necessarily seeing it directly.

    Most of the law looks good; particilarly local and third party ballot (and fake ballot) mailing

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  • static111
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    OnWis97 said:
    So what are the problems with Georgia's law? It looks like people can get food and water; just not within 150 feet of the polling place, which is the same law for candidates and lobbyists. I don't exactly think a bottle of Dasani and bag of Cheetos is a bribe, but I see the point. 

    The other thing is the Sec of State losing his role to be replaced by a non-elected official appointed by the legislature.  Doesn't seem problematic on its face (though it does smack of reacting to the Sec of State not handing the state to Trump like he was supposed to).

    It would be naïve to not consider the possibility that this is a power grab and/or voting suppression move, but I'm not necessarily seeing it directly.

    Most of the law looks good; particilarly local and third party ballot (and fake ballot) mailing

    https://www.gpb.org/news/2021/03/27/what-does-georgias-new-voting-law-sb-202-do
    I hate when people post articles, but here I go.  To me the most telling thing is that on its face it says that everything that communities of color did to help ballot access and stop the long lines has been revoked, but don’t take my word for it take The Nation’s. 

    “The law’s worst features? There are so many. “You don’t do it justice by pulling out individual pieces,” warns voting rights attorney Marc Elias, who’s suing to overturn the bill as unconstitutional, especially for its particular impact on Black voters.

    But we have to wrap our minds around it, so here’s just a start: Voters who request absentee ballots will now have to send in a copy of state-validated ID when they do so (and many either don’t have one or can’t easily copy it); the number of drop boxes to return those ballots will be cut dramatically, limited only to early-voting sites (rather than libraries and other public buildings), and they will close four days before the election (when it’s too late to reliably mail ballots). Providing food and water to voters in long lines is now, officially, classified by law as a crime (thanks, Brad!). Perhaps worst of all, the state legislature is empowered to step in and take control of county elections in the event it sees something wrong—and in 2020, “something wrong” was too many Democrats voting.

    Oh, and the GOP-gerrymandered legislature also removed the secretary of state as the head of the state board of election—punishment for Raffensperger’s mostly fair administration of the presidential balloting and the runoff—and put itself in charge.

    Brian Kemp signed the new law immediately, outrageously seated beneath a painting of an antebellum Georgia plantation and flanked by seven white male lawmakers. Just outside, state police arrested Democratic state Representative Park Cannon, who is Black, for the crime of knocking on Kemp’s door. Lots of Georgians, and smart outsiders, think that ugly tableau was intentional, to assure demoralized Trump voters that everything in Georgia is returning to the racist way it ever was; now they can relax and vote Republican again, no matter what Trump says.

    “But our voters won’t forget that,” insists Bee Nguyen.

    That racist tableau still won’t endear Kemp to Trump, who is looking to support a 2022 primary challenger as payback for Kemp’s crime of certifying his election defeat last year. It is also likely to inflame Georgia Democrats next November, when Warnock will be running again, and many expect, or at least hope, voting rights advocate Stacey Abrams will seek a rematch against the vote-suppressing Republican governor.

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    When it comes to that November election, Kemp might have been signing his own political death warrant when he signed SB 202. Certainly some political observers think so. Cook Political Reporteditor Dave Wasserman tweeted that the Georgia GOP “just handed Democrats their best turnout tool for 2022 & beyond.” Washington Post columnist Jennifer Rubin called the criminalizing of providing food and water a “Republican blunder” that could galvanize Georgia Democrats, especially those of color, to new heights of participation.

    Seth Bringman of Fair Fight Action, the Abrams-led group that works for voting rights, certainly hopes that’s true. If legal efforts to challenge SB 202 fail, and congressional action to shore up voting rights stalls, “then we’ll have to organize around it,” he told me. “It’s true that earlier efforts at voter suppression have empowered voters here to take action,” Bringman added. But he notes that it’s tough to know how many voters were suppressed by those measures, even as others turned out. And putting the onus back on Black voters who have been discouraged, brutalized, and even killed for exercising their right to vote, rather than on the white lawmakers who’ve historically done the brutalizing, is tough for many to take.

    Despite Elias’s fair warning against itemizing the bill’s components and designating what’s worst, advocates and analysts are doing that. They have to. The provision criminalizing “line-warming,” or bringing snacks and drinks to voters stuck in long lines, has gotten the most attention in the bill. It’s got a real “What would Jesus not do?” vibe. President Biden singled it out when he attacked the entire law, calling it “sick, sick.” And its racially discriminatory intent seems clear. A lawsuit charging that SB 202 places “unconstitutional burdens on the right to vote,” brought by Elias on behalf of the New Georgia Project and others, quotes a study that found thst in the much-criticized June 2020 primary elections, “the average wait time in Georgia after polls were scheduled to close was six minutes in neighborhoods that were at least 90% white, and 51 minutes in places that were at least 90% nonwhite.”

    “There’s no other way to interpret this other than that Georgia Republicans want voters of color to leave those lines and not vote,” says Fair Fight Action’s Bringman.

    But other provisions could have a bigger impact, including restrictions on early voting, voter ID requirements for absentee ballots and limits on the number and the hours of ballot drop boxes. Such changes will disproportionately burden voters of color, who adopted those voter access reforms with new enthusiasm in 2020, especially given the dangers of the pandemic. Limiting those measures will also force many voters back onto those long Election Day lines, where they’ll no longer be supported by volunteers providing food and drink. Yeah, it’s a vicious—and very efficient—voter-suppression circle.

    Georgia’s most recent, actual election emergency was last June’s primaries, especially in heavily Democratic counties. State Republican officials had already closed precincts, purged “inactive” voters, and conducted other voter suppression exercises in prior elections, but the problems in the primary, creating the extraordinarily long lines, were in some ways worse—or at least more obvious—than what the nation saw in the 2018 governor’s race. Stacey Abrams told me at the time that the 2020 primary mess was was “a combination of malice and incompetence.”

    Those problems were widely blamed on Raffensperger, who had inherited the mess. But he in turn blamed them on county election boards in Fulton and DeKalb and other places with lots of Democrats. Elias didn’t entirely disagree: Around the country, “I’ve sued Democratic counties,” he told me. “Voting is an essential service; when it goes well, we shouldn’t act like it’s a treat.”

    So those embattled county election boards took action for the November election. They secured mobile voting sites, expanded absentee voting and vote by mail, and added drop boxes for those votes. In Fulton County, they got enormous help in the form of the donation of State Farm Arena as a massive polling place. Sports were shut down during the pandemic, but fans could nonetheless troop there and cast ballots—and they did. By November, Fulton County still had lines in a few places, but the combination of early voting, mail-in voting, expanded dropboxes, mobile sites, and, yes, State Farm Arena reduced the traditional election day lines in Black counties to manageable. Those same fixes made the January runoff run more smoothly.

    SB 202 says to those Georgia counties that “all those solutions that you used to fix those problems after last June? You can’t use them now,” says Mother Jones’s voting rights expert Ari Berman, author of Give Us the Ballot and the forthcoming Minority Rule. Elias agrees. Republicans blamed Democratic counties for “creating the long lines. Now they’re preventing the amelioration of those long lines,” he says. For one thing, counties are now prohibited from accepting donations to help them solve voting problems—which some have interpreted as forbidding help from, say, liberal foundations to ease vote-counting burdens, but others believe would ban the acceptance of State Farm Arena access, and even access to churches.“

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