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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,261
    dankind said:
    https://fortune.com/2021/02/02/aoc-ig-live-video-capitol-trauma-bathroom/

    Taken from the Capitol thread.

    Everyone give a read so we can discuss what she said.
    If you're talking about the last line. It's already been pounced upon and widely taken out of context by both social and mainstream media to keep driving in that wedge.

    Just the facts: She was referring to the disembodied voice that belonged to the officer, not the officer himself. 

    But who's going to click on/be outraged by that?
    Yeah. She did not know who the person was 

    People are really outraged by this? 
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    dankind said:
    https://fortune.com/2021/02/02/aoc-ig-live-video-capitol-trauma-bathroom/

    Taken from the Capitol thread.

    Everyone give a read so we can discuss what she said.
    If you're talking about the last line. It's already been pounced upon and widely taken out of context by both social and mainstream media to keep driving in that wedge.

    Just the facts: She was referring to the disembodied voice that belonged to the officer, not the officer himself. 

    But who's going to click on/be outraged by that?
    It has?  Did she say that because it is worthy of discussion and if I am persuaded by something else she mentions then I'll move on.
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    dankinddankind I am not your foot. Posts: 20,827
    dankind said:
    https://fortune.com/2021/02/02/aoc-ig-live-video-capitol-trauma-bathroom/

    Taken from the Capitol thread.

    Everyone give a read so we can discuss what she said.
    If you're talking about the last line. It's already been pounced upon and widely taken out of context by both social and mainstream media to keep driving in that wedge.

    Just the facts: She was referring to the disembodied voice that belonged to the officer, not the officer himself. 

    But who's going to click on/be outraged by that?
    Yeah. She did not know who the person was 

    People are really outraged by this? 
    People who fall into these traps set by the likes of Fortune magazine et al. certainly are.

    The only reason any media outlet could possibly have to post that quote out of context is to continue to reap the rewards that they gain from sowing seeds of disinformation and division.
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    tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 38,985
    edited February 2021
    dankind said:
    dankind said:
    https://fortune.com/2021/02/02/aoc-ig-live-video-capitol-trauma-bathroom/

    Taken from the Capitol thread.

    Everyone give a read so we can discuss what she said.
    If you're talking about the last line. It's already been pounced upon and widely taken out of context by both social and mainstream media to keep driving in that wedge.

    Just the facts: She was referring to the disembodied voice that belonged to the officer, not the officer himself. 

    But who's going to click on/be outraged by that?
    Yeah. She did not know who the person was 

    People are really outraged by this? 
    People who fall into these traps set by the likes of Fortune magazine et al. certainly are.

    The only reason any media outlet could possibly have to post that quote out of context is to continue to reap the rewards that they gain from sowing seeds of disinformation and division.
    That is EXACTLY what I got out of it, not going to lie.

    EDIT: I thought it was odd that a link to the video wasn't on the article.  Knee jerk reaction from me.. It was written great, irked the shit out of me!
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    dankinddankind I am not your foot. Posts: 20,827
    dankind said:
    dankind said:
    https://fortune.com/2021/02/02/aoc-ig-live-video-capitol-trauma-bathroom/

    Taken from the Capitol thread.

    Everyone give a read so we can discuss what she said.
    If you're talking about the last line. It's already been pounced upon and widely taken out of context by both social and mainstream media to keep driving in that wedge.

    Just the facts: She was referring to the disembodied voice that belonged to the officer, not the officer himself. 

    But who's going to click on/be outraged by that?
    Yeah. She did not know who the person was 

    People are really outraged by this? 
    People who fall into these traps set by the likes of Fortune magazine et al. certainly are.

    The only reason any media outlet could possibly have to post that quote out of context is to continue to reap the rewards that they gain from sowing seeds of disinformation and division.
    That is EXACTLY what I got out of it, not going to lie.
    If only there were a video of her recounting this day in her own words so that we could have some context here.
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    dankind said:
    dankind said:
    dankind said:
    https://fortune.com/2021/02/02/aoc-ig-live-video-capitol-trauma-bathroom/

    Taken from the Capitol thread.

    Everyone give a read so we can discuss what she said.
    If you're talking about the last line. It's already been pounced upon and widely taken out of context by both social and mainstream media to keep driving in that wedge.

    Just the facts: She was referring to the disembodied voice that belonged to the officer, not the officer himself. 

    But who's going to click on/be outraged by that?
    Yeah. She did not know who the person was 

    People are really outraged by this? 
    People who fall into these traps set by the likes of Fortune magazine et al. certainly are.

    The only reason any media outlet could possibly have to post that quote out of context is to continue to reap the rewards that they gain from sowing seeds of disinformation and division.
    That is EXACTLY what I got out of it, not going to lie.
    If only there were a video of her recounting this day in her own words so that we could have some context here.
    HA!  read my edit above!
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    cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,094
    I am no AOC fan as a politician.

    But I wouldn't wish that fear on her.  She knows she's a lightning rod. She loves it.  It's part of her brand.  But in that moment she was just a US representative that we as a nation failed.  No matter who was in there, they should never be too scared to open their office doors.  That is just crazy.  

    Trump, Cruz, Gaetz, that awful Q-loving manlady....all responsible for that day, those actions, that fear, and the deaths.  Including a police officer.  Blue lives matter my ass.  Just another bunch of fucking hypocrites.


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    tbergstbergs Posts: 9,235
    It's a hopeless situation...
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    tbergs said:
    Like a Bean Pot final, BU-1, Haaaaaaavaaaahd-0.
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    dignindignin Posts: 9,303
    tbergs said:

    Are you telling me that AOC has done more for Texas than Ted? 

    But I was told nothing could be done? I'm shocked.
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    pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,192
    tbergs said:
    Now that's how you lead in a crisis.  Maybe sometimes her message doesn't come across correctly all the time but I think her heart is generally to do what is the right thing. I applaud her efforts to help Texas.  
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    dignin said:
    tbergs said:

    Are you telling me that AOC has done more for Texas than Ted? 

    But I was told nothing could be done? I'm shocked.
    Seems Ted couldn't figger it out because he's a degen and spare parts, to used to chirpin' and not chorsin', going 10 ply. He prolly ought to take 20% off and that's a Texas-sized 10-4.
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,628
    Good for AOC.  More of this! 
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    JeBurkhardtJeBurkhardt Posts: 4,496
    dignin said:
    tbergs said:

    Are you telling me that AOC has done more for Texas than Ted? 

    But I was told nothing could be done? I'm shocked.
    Seems Ted couldn't figger it out because he's a degen and spare parts, to used to chirpin' and not chorsin', going 10 ply. He prolly ought to take 20% off and that's a Texas-sized 10-4.
    Well, to be fair.
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    oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,824
    dignin said:
    tbergs said:

    Are you telling me that AOC has done more for Texas than Ted? 

    But I was told nothing could be done? I'm shocked.
    Seems Ted couldn't figger it out because he's a degen and spare parts, to used to chirpin' and not chorsin', going 10 ply. He prolly ought to take 20% off and that's a Texas-sized 10-4.
    Well, to be fair.
    To be faaair...
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    dignin said:
    tbergs said:

    Are you telling me that AOC has done more for Texas than Ted? 

    But I was told nothing could be done? I'm shocked.
    Seems Ted couldn't figger it out because he's a degen and spare parts, to used to chirpin' and not chorsin', going 10 ply. He prolly ought to take 20% off and that's a Texas-sized 10-4.
    Well, to be fair.
    To be faaair...
    To be faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaair
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    JeBurkhardtJeBurkhardt Posts: 4,496
    dignin said:
    tbergs said:

    Are you telling me that AOC has done more for Texas than Ted? 

    But I was told nothing could be done? I'm shocked.
    Seems Ted couldn't figger it out because he's a degen and spare parts, to used to chirpin' and not chorsin', going 10 ply. He prolly ought to take 20% off and that's a Texas-sized 10-4.
    Well, to be fair.
    To be faaair...
    To be faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaair
    To be Faaaaaaaaaaaaair. Ted was 10ply from the start. Allowing Trump to insult his wife and then roll over for him. I suggest you let that one marinate.
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    dignin said:
    tbergs said:

    Are you telling me that AOC has done more for Texas than Ted? 

    But I was told nothing could be done? I'm shocked.
    Seems Ted couldn't figger it out because he's a degen and spare parts, to used to chirpin' and not chorsin', going 10 ply. He prolly ought to take 20% off and that's a Texas-sized 10-4.
    Well, to be fair.
    To be faaair...
    To be faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaair
    To be Faaaaaaaaaaaaair. Ted was 10ply from the start. Allowing Trump to insult his wife and then roll over for him. I suggest you let that one marinate.
    Sounds like he was Shoresied and should give his balls a tug.
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    pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,192
    yes, helping people in need is such a bad character trait to have.
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    static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    nicknyr15 said:
    But it’s not a cage anymore it’s a temporary detention center...oh and he’s not trump so all’s good now 😉
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,628
    nicknyr15 said:
    What else do you do with unaccompanied children that cross the border? The problem with the trump admin is that they deliberately separated children from parents as a disincentive to crossing.  It was a punitive action.  I don't see where she offers a solution for this immediate problem,  rather says we need comprehensive reform and to disband INS. While that might be worthy z it isn't addressing an imminent and immediate problem. 
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    cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,094
    mrussel1 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    What else do you do with unaccompanied children that cross the border? The problem with the trump admin is that they deliberately separated children from parents as a disincentive to crossing.  It was a punitive action.  I don't see where she offers a solution for this immediate problem,  rather says we need comprehensive reform and to disband INS. While that might be worthy z it isn't addressing an imminent and immediate problem. 
    1) Free health care
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,628
    mrussel1 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    What else do you do with unaccompanied children that cross the border? The problem with the trump admin is that they deliberately separated children from parents as a disincentive to crossing.  It was a punitive action.  I don't see where she offers a solution for this immediate problem,  rather says we need comprehensive reform and to disband INS. While that might be worthy z it isn't addressing an imminent and immediate problem. 
    1) Free health care
    2) Free college
    3) Free everything!!!! 

    Duh. ;)

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    mrussel1 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    What else do you do with unaccompanied children that cross the border? The problem with the trump admin is that they deliberately separated children from parents as a disincentive to crossing.  It was a punitive action.  I don't see where she offers a solution for this immediate problem,  rather says we need comprehensive reform and to disband INS. While that might be worthy z it isn't addressing an imminent and immediate problem. 
    You forgot, “during a pandemic” between “border” and “?.” Let’s just pack ‘em in. That’ll learn ‘em.
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    Has the dem leadership censured her yet?
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,628
    mrussel1 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    What else do you do with unaccompanied children that cross the border? The problem with the trump admin is that they deliberately separated children from parents as a disincentive to crossing.  It was a punitive action.  I don't see where she offers a solution for this immediate problem,  rather says we need comprehensive reform and to disband INS. While that might be worthy z it isn't addressing an imminent and immediate problem. 
    You forgot, “during a pandemic” between “border” and “?.” Let’s just pack ‘em in. That’ll learn ‘em.
    The options are:
    1. House them
    2. Send them back over the border
    3. Release children into the US without supervision
    It seems to me that option 1 is the most humane, so long as you house them humanely.  


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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,726
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    What else do you do with unaccompanied children that cross the border? The problem with the trump admin is that they deliberately separated children from parents as a disincentive to crossing.  It was a punitive action.  I don't see where she offers a solution for this immediate problem,  rather says we need comprehensive reform and to disband INS. While that might be worthy z it isn't addressing an imminent and immediate problem. 
    You forgot, “during a pandemic” between “border” and “?.” Let’s just pack ‘em in. That’ll learn ‘em.
    The options are:
    1. House them
    2. Send them back over the border
    3. Release children into the US without supervision
    It seems to me that option 1 is the most humane, so long as you house them humanely.  



    yes. see to the most pressing needs. safe shelter, clothing, food.

    I eonder if any surveys or polling as it has been dpne to understand what the parents hopes are once they arrive. HS to take some kibdvof psychological toll on these kids from the separation to the trip to the gringos speaking foreign tongue
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