Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez
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31 year olds die a lot less than the 65+ group, no?Halifax2TheMax said:
They don’t die from covid? Funny, jealousy kills. But you know, jealousy.bbiggs said:
31 year old, non-healthcare workers must be high risk.nicknyr15 said:Congrats on being one of the first to get the vaccine AOC.
Speaking of Illinois, hows the facts, surges, thanksgiving, spikes and deaths and all? You know, government numbers? Going to visit, maskless? Fuck those people, right? Culling, it’s a hard thing. Sometimes.
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True.bbiggs said:
31 year olds die a lot less than the 65+ group, no?Halifax2TheMax said:
They don’t die from covid? Funny, jealousy kills. But you know, jealousy.bbiggs said:
31 year old, non-healthcare workers must be high risk.nicknyr15 said:Congrats on being one of the first to get the vaccine AOC.
Speaking of Illinois, hows the facts, surges, thanksgiving, spikes and deaths and all? You know, government numbers? Going to visit, maskless? Fuck those people, right? Culling, it’s a hard thing. Sometimes.
Not sure what the rest of that rant means. It’s hard to follow.
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Lol.Halifax2TheMax said:
They don’t die from covid? Funny, jealousy kills. But you know, jealousy.bbiggs said:
31 year old, non-healthcare workers must be high risk.nicknyr15 said:Congrats on being one of the first to get the vaccine AOC.
Speaking of Illinois, hows the facts, surges, thanksgiving, spikes and deaths and all? You know, government numbers? Going to visit, maskless? Fuck those people, right? Culling, it’s a hard thing. Sometimes.0 -
so do people think that political leaders should be first in line, or even close to first? I get the prez and prez-elect getting it. But a congressperson? why? I don't believe canadian senators and provincial premiers are getting them. My premier has already stated he's anxious to get it, being 65+ with asthma, but he will wait his turn like everyone else. Why the hell is AOC getting it first?Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0
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That's the question. Now there is a "continuity of gov't" strategy out there that allows for this type of thing. But the question is should young reps take it? I don't think so. Should Nancy, Chuck, Mitch? Yes. They are all high risk and in positions that require them to be public.HughFreakingDillon said:so do people think that political leaders should be first in line, or even close to first? I get the prez and prez-elect getting it. But a congressperson? why? I don't believe canadian senators and provincial premiers are getting them. My premier has already stated he's anxious to get it, being 65+ with asthma, but he will wait his turn like everyone else. Why the hell is AOC getting it first?0 -
Because no matter how much people (very often politicians) give lip service to community and the greater good, in the end they will usually do what benefits themselves the most.HughFreakingDillon said:so do people think that political leaders should be first in line, or even close to first? I get the prez and prez-elect getting it. But a congressperson? why? I don't believe canadian senators and provincial premiers are getting them. My premier has already stated he's anxious to get it, being 65+ with asthma, but he will wait his turn like everyone else. Why the hell is AOC getting it first?0 -
I think it’s bullshit. Fuck praising AOC for getting the vaccination early...I wonder who’s grandmother will die because she got to jump the line. As far as I know, she is not in an “at risk” group...Elitism at its finest.HughFreakingDillon said:so do people think that political leaders should be first in line, or even close to first? I get the prez and prez-elect getting it. But a congressperson? why? I don't believe canadian senators and provincial premiers are getting them. My premier has already stated he's anxious to get it, being 65+ with asthma, but he will wait his turn like everyone else. Why the hell is AOC getting it first?Post edited by PJPOWER on0 -
Omar criticized her publicly. I was surprised. But she lost a parent to COVID so I know she is really focused on the vaccine getting to seniors.PJPOWER said:
I think it’s bullshit. Fuck praising AOC for getting the vaccination early...I wonder who’s grandmother will die because she got to jump the line. As far as I know, she is not in an “at risk” group...Elitism...HughFreakingDillon said:so do people think that political leaders should be first in line, or even close to first? I get the prez and prez-elect getting it. But a congressperson? why? I don't believe canadian senators and provincial premiers are getting them. My premier has already stated he's anxious to get it, being 65+ with asthma, but he will wait his turn like everyone else. Why the hell is AOC getting it first?0 -
I'm of two minds about this. I get that a lot of people may need to see that people in authority seem to trust the vaccine, and this normalizes the idea of getting vaccinated. If none of those in government got vaccinated conspiracy theories would flourish even more than they already do. However, I don't think that outweighs the fact that all of these early doses should be going to the highest risk people.
I think the continuity of government argument is bullshit in this instance.my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0 -
I'm of two minds about this. I get that a lot of people may need to see that people in authority seem to trust the vaccine, and this normalizes the idea of getting vaccinated. If none of those in government got vaccinated conspiracy theories would flourish even more than they already do. However, I don't think that outweighs the fact that all of these early doses should be going to the highest risk people.
I think the continuity of government argument is bullshit in this instance.my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0 -
yeah, we had this conversation about "trust in the vaccine" with public figures getting it, but I don't think they should be jumping the queue. Especially not someone who is going to be almost universally panned like AOC should have known she would.oftenreading said:I'm of two minds about this. I get that a lot of people may need to see that people in authority seem to trust the vaccine, and this normalizes the idea of getting vaccinated. If none of those in government got vaccinated conspiracy theories would flourish even more than they already do. However, I don't think that outweighs the fact that all of these early doses should be going to the highest risk people.
I think the continuity of government argument is bullshit in this instance.Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0 -
HughFreakingDillon said:
yeah, we had this conversation about "trust in the vaccine" with public figures getting it, but I don't think they should be jumping the queue. Especially not someone who is going to be almost universally panned like AOC should have known she would.oftenreading said:I'm of two minds about this. I get that a lot of people may need to see that people in authority seem to trust the vaccine, and this normalizes the idea of getting vaccinated. If none of those in government got vaccinated conspiracy theories would flourish even more than they already do. However, I don't think that outweighs the fact that all of these early doses should be going to the highest risk people.
I think the continuity of government argument is bullshit in this instance.
She's going to be panned no matter what she does - do you really think otherwise?
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by the center and the right, yes, but the left? depends on the situation. she is under pretty intense scrutiny, no doubt. But this: I can't see how anyone, no matter how far left, can support it. the fact that someone mentioned Omar criticized her for it is pretty telling.oftenreading said:HughFreakingDillon said:
yeah, we had this conversation about "trust in the vaccine" with public figures getting it, but I don't think they should be jumping the queue. Especially not someone who is going to be almost universally panned like AOC should have known she would.oftenreading said:I'm of two minds about this. I get that a lot of people may need to see that people in authority seem to trust the vaccine, and this normalizes the idea of getting vaccinated. If none of those in government got vaccinated conspiracy theories would flourish even more than they already do. However, I don't think that outweighs the fact that all of these early doses should be going to the highest risk people.
I think the continuity of government argument is bullshit in this instance.
She's going to be panned no matter what she does - do you really think otherwise?Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0 -
Unless you're a healthcare professional, long-term care provider, front line worker or someone with a known underlying disease that puts you at greater risk, there is no reason someone in his or her 30's should get this vaccine before an elderly person. Absolutely zero reason.
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Agreed. It's that simple.bbiggs said:Unless you're a healthcare professional, long-term care provider, front line worker or someone with a known underlying disease that puts you at greater risk, there is no reason someone in his or her 30's should get this vaccine before an elderly person. Absolutely zero reason.0 -
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Agreed. It's that simple.bbiggs said:Unless you're a healthcare professional, long-term care provider, front line worker or someone with a known underlying disease that puts you at greater risk, there is no reason someone in his or her 30's should get this vaccine before an elderly person. Absolutely zero reason.0 -
What if due to your work you have to be out and about more than a homebound elderly person. There are many people that have to go out in close contact with others everyday so they can pay their bills. Should a person in their 30’s trying to make ends meet not get the vaccine before a Rush Limbaugh, Bill Gates, or the filthy rich person with the gate at the end of the road that can afford to stay home on their palatial estates while getting groceries delivered?bbiggs said:Unless you're a healthcare professional, long-term care provider, front line worker or someone with a known underlying disease that puts you at greater risk, there is no reason someone in his or her 30's should get this vaccine before an elderly person. Absolutely zero reason.Scio me nihil scire
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static111 said:
What if due to your work you have to be out and about more than a homebound elderly person. There are many people that have to go out in close contact with others everyday so they can pay their bills. Should a person in their 30’s trying to make ends meet not get the vaccine before a Rush Limbaugh, Bill Gates, or the filthy rich person with the gate at the end of the road that can afford to stay home on their palatial estates while getting groceries delivered?bbiggs said:Unless you're a healthcare professional, long-term care provider, front line worker or someone with a known underlying disease that puts you at greater risk, there is no reason someone in his or her 30's should get this vaccine before an elderly person. Absolutely zero reason.Doesn't matter. Lines need to be drawn somewhere. Elderly and high risk individuals due to underlying disease go first no matter what. The healthy 30-something that has to be out and about should go after those groups. Not that you're asking, but I'm 39, need to be out and about on some level (masked up, distanced, etc.), need to make ends meet and I would forego the vaccine if offered to me until those groups received it. AOC being 31, presumably in good health, and jumping the line is a bad look.And the Rush Limbaugh, Bill Gates crowd living in palatial estates are certainly the minority when looking at how this needs to get distributed and prioritized.
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Well you said zero reason so I was just looking for a non zero reasonbbiggs said:static111 said:
What if due to your work you have to be out and about more than a homebound elderly person. There are many people that have to go out in close contact with others everyday so they can pay their bills. Should a person in their 30’s trying to make ends meet not get the vaccine before a Rush Limbaugh, Bill Gates, or the filthy rich person with the gate at the end of the road that can afford to stay home on their palatial estates while getting groceries delivered?bbiggs said:Unless you're a healthcare professional, long-term care provider, front line worker or someone with a known underlying disease that puts you at greater risk, there is no reason someone in his or her 30's should get this vaccine before an elderly person. Absolutely zero reason.Doesn't matter. Lines need to be drawn somewhere. Elderly and high risk individuals due to underlying disease go first no matter what. The healthy 30-something that has to be out and about should go after those groups. Not that you're asking, but I'm 39, need to be out and about on some level (masked up, distanced, etc.), need to make ends meet and I would forego the vaccine if offered to me until those groups received it. AOC being 31, presumably in good health, and jumping the line is a bad look.And the Rush Limbaugh, Bill Gates crowd living in palatial estates are certainly the minority when looking at how this needs to get distributed and prioritized.Scio me nihil scire
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I did. And I stand by it. Zero reason.static111 said:
Well you said zero reason so I was just looking for a non zero reasonbbiggs said:static111 said:
What if due to your work you have to be out and about more than a homebound elderly person. There are many people that have to go out in close contact with others everyday so they can pay their bills. Should a person in their 30’s trying to make ends meet not get the vaccine before a Rush Limbaugh, Bill Gates, or the filthy rich person with the gate at the end of the road that can afford to stay home on their palatial estates while getting groceries delivered?bbiggs said:Unless you're a healthcare professional, long-term care provider, front line worker or someone with a known underlying disease that puts you at greater risk, there is no reason someone in his or her 30's should get this vaccine before an elderly person. Absolutely zero reason.Doesn't matter. Lines need to be drawn somewhere. Elderly and high risk individuals due to underlying disease go first no matter what. The healthy 30-something that has to be out and about should go after those groups. Not that you're asking, but I'm 39, need to be out and about on some level (masked up, distanced, etc.), need to make ends meet and I would forego the vaccine if offered to me until those groups received it. AOC being 31, presumably in good health, and jumping the line is a bad look.And the Rush Limbaugh, Bill Gates crowd living in palatial estates are certainly the minority when looking at how this needs to get distributed and prioritized.
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