Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez

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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,908
    yes, helping people in need is such a bad character trait to have.
  • static111
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    nicknyr15 said:
    But it’s not a cage anymore it’s a temporary detention center...oh and he’s not trump so all’s good now 😉
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  • mrussel1
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    nicknyr15 said:
    What else do you do with unaccompanied children that cross the border? The problem with the trump admin is that they deliberately separated children from parents as a disincentive to crossing.  It was a punitive action.  I don't see where she offers a solution for this immediate problem,  rather says we need comprehensive reform and to disband INS. While that might be worthy z it isn't addressing an imminent and immediate problem. 
  • cincybearcat
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    mrussel1 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    What else do you do with unaccompanied children that cross the border? The problem with the trump admin is that they deliberately separated children from parents as a disincentive to crossing.  It was a punitive action.  I don't see where she offers a solution for this immediate problem,  rather says we need comprehensive reform and to disband INS. While that might be worthy z it isn't addressing an imminent and immediate problem. 
    1) Free health care
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    Duh. ;)

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  • mrussel1
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    mrussel1 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    What else do you do with unaccompanied children that cross the border? The problem with the trump admin is that they deliberately separated children from parents as a disincentive to crossing.  It was a punitive action.  I don't see where she offers a solution for this immediate problem,  rather says we need comprehensive reform and to disband INS. While that might be worthy z it isn't addressing an imminent and immediate problem. 
    1) Free health care
    2) Free college
    3) Free everything!!!! 

    Duh. ;)

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  • mrussel1 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    What else do you do with unaccompanied children that cross the border? The problem with the trump admin is that they deliberately separated children from parents as a disincentive to crossing.  It was a punitive action.  I don't see where she offers a solution for this immediate problem,  rather says we need comprehensive reform and to disband INS. While that might be worthy z it isn't addressing an imminent and immediate problem. 
    You forgot, “during a pandemic” between “border” and “?.” Let’s just pack ‘em in. That’ll learn ‘em.
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  • Has the dem leadership censured her yet?
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  • mrussel1
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    mrussel1 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    What else do you do with unaccompanied children that cross the border? The problem with the trump admin is that they deliberately separated children from parents as a disincentive to crossing.  It was a punitive action.  I don't see where she offers a solution for this immediate problem,  rather says we need comprehensive reform and to disband INS. While that might be worthy z it isn't addressing an imminent and immediate problem. 
    You forgot, “during a pandemic” between “border” and “?.” Let’s just pack ‘em in. That’ll learn ‘em.
    The options are:
    1. House them
    2. Send them back over the border
    3. Release children into the US without supervision
    It seems to me that option 1 is the most humane, so long as you house them humanely.  


  • mickeyrat
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    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    What else do you do with unaccompanied children that cross the border? The problem with the trump admin is that they deliberately separated children from parents as a disincentive to crossing.  It was a punitive action.  I don't see where she offers a solution for this immediate problem,  rather says we need comprehensive reform and to disband INS. While that might be worthy z it isn't addressing an imminent and immediate problem. 
    You forgot, “during a pandemic” between “border” and “?.” Let’s just pack ‘em in. That’ll learn ‘em.
    The options are:
    1. House them
    2. Send them back over the border
    3. Release children into the US without supervision
    It seems to me that option 1 is the most humane, so long as you house them humanely.  



    yes. see to the most pressing needs. safe shelter, clothing, food.

    I eonder if any surveys or polling as it has been dpne to understand what the parents hopes are once they arrive. HS to take some kibdvof psychological toll on these kids from the separation to the trip to the gringos speaking foreign tongue
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  • TNSTAAFL

    Damn. Now the moon people are getting involved.
  • static111
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    Has the dem leadership censured her yet?
    For having principles?
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  • mrussel1
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    TNSTAAFL

    Damn. Now the moon people are getting involved.
    I don't like furners either
  • static111 said:
    Has the dem leadership censured her yet?
    For having principles?
    Exactly.
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  • static111
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    static111 said:
    Has the dem leadership censured her yet?
    For having principles?
    Exactly.
    I’d go after Joe “we aren’t gonna get anything done” Manchin first.
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  • mrussel1
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    static111 said:
    static111 said:
    Has the dem leadership censured her yet?
    For having principles?
    Exactly.
    I’d go after Joe “we aren’t gonna get anything done” Manchin first.
    Yeah Manchin is getting on my nerves.  His coming out against Tanden is annoying as I believe he has voted for R candidates who have said just as much if not worse on Twitter.  That being said, Tanden's tweets are rightfully catching up to her.  If anything comes from this, it should be to stop being an asshole on twitter.  Can public officials or wannabe officials just learn this lesson...please?
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,070
    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    static111 said:
    Has the dem leadership censured her yet?
    For having principles?
    Exactly.
    I’d go after Joe “we aren’t gonna get anything done” Manchin first.
    Yeah Manchin is getting on my nerves.  His coming out against Tanden is annoying as I believe he has voted for R candidates who have said just as much if not worse on Twitter.  That being said, Tanden's tweets are rightfully catching up to her.  If anything comes from this, it should be to stop being an asshole on twitter.  Can public officials or wannabe officials just learn this lesson...please?
    Maybe I should make a fuck joe manchin thread, but I’m too lazy.  I’m beginning to feel like Dems prefer a divided government so they can blame republicans for everything.  Now both houses and the presidency and can’t make anything happen.  Very frustrating.  Also people are really sick of waiting on those $1400 checks.  At this point it’s not looking good for Dems to the casual voter.  It’s much harder to blame republicans when you have both chambers and the executive.  If 1400+600 equals $2000 does $600 plus 0 equal fuck joe manchin? Almost done rambling here.  At this point Americans got more help during the pandemic under Trump and the republicans, not a good look. Again fuck joe manchin.
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  • mrussel1
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    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    static111 said:
    Has the dem leadership censured her yet?
    For having principles?
    Exactly.
    I’d go after Joe “we aren’t gonna get anything done” Manchin first.
    Yeah Manchin is getting on my nerves.  His coming out against Tanden is annoying as I believe he has voted for R candidates who have said just as much if not worse on Twitter.  That being said, Tanden's tweets are rightfully catching up to her.  If anything comes from this, it should be to stop being an asshole on twitter.  Can public officials or wannabe officials just learn this lesson...please?
    Maybe I should make a fuck joe manchin thread, but I’m too lazy.  I’m beginning to feel like Dems prefer a divided government so they can blame republicans for everything.  Now both houses and the presidency and can’t make anything happen.  Very frustrating.  Also people are really sick of waiting on those $1400 checks.  At this point it’s not looking good for Dems to the casual voter.  It’s much harder to blame republicans when you have both chambers and the executive.  If 1400+600 equals $2000 does $600 plus 0 equal fuck joe manchin? Almost done rambling here.  At this point Americans got more help during the pandemic under Trump and the republicans, not a good look. Again fuck joe manchin.
    As far I have heard,  Manchin is on board with everything but the minimum wage.  And there is a counter to $10 coming from Romney. The point is that I think the stimulus will pass through reconciliation with a Manchin vote.  
  • mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    static111 said:
    Has the dem leadership censured her yet?
    For having principles?
    Exactly.
    I’d go after Joe “we aren’t gonna get anything done” Manchin first.
    Yeah Manchin is getting on my nerves.  His coming out against Tanden is annoying as I believe he has voted for R candidates who have said just as much if not worse on Twitter.  That being said, Tanden's tweets are rightfully catching up to her.  If anything comes from this, it should be to stop being an asshole on twitter.  Can public officials or wannabe officials just learn this lesson...please?
    Maybe I should make a fuck joe manchin thread, but I’m too lazy.  I’m beginning to feel like Dems prefer a divided government so they can blame republicans for everything.  Now both houses and the presidency and can’t make anything happen.  Very frustrating.  Also people are really sick of waiting on those $1400 checks.  At this point it’s not looking good for Dems to the casual voter.  It’s much harder to blame republicans when you have both chambers and the executive.  If 1400+600 equals $2000 does $600 plus 0 equal fuck joe manchin? Almost done rambling here.  At this point Americans got more help during the pandemic under Trump and the republicans, not a good look. Again fuck joe manchin.
    As far I have heard,  Manchin is on board with everything but the minimum wage.  And there is a counter to $10 coming from Romney. The point is that I think the stimulus will pass through reconciliation with a Manchin vote.  
    I;m not a fan of raising the minimum wage to $15 either.  $10 is fine.
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,070
    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    static111 said:
    Has the dem leadership censured her yet?
    For having principles?
    Exactly.
    I’d go after Joe “we aren’t gonna get anything done” Manchin first.
    Yeah Manchin is getting on my nerves.  His coming out against Tanden is annoying as I believe he has voted for R candidates who have said just as much if not worse on Twitter.  That being said, Tanden's tweets are rightfully catching up to her.  If anything comes from this, it should be to stop being an asshole on twitter.  Can public officials or wannabe officials just learn this lesson...please?
    Maybe I should make a fuck joe manchin thread, but I’m too lazy.  I’m beginning to feel like Dems prefer a divided government so they can blame republicans for everything.  Now both houses and the presidency and can’t make anything happen.  Very frustrating.  Also people are really sick of waiting on those $1400 checks.  At this point it’s not looking good for Dems to the casual voter.  It’s much harder to blame republicans when you have both chambers and the executive.  If 1400+600 equals $2000 does $600 plus 0 equal fuck joe manchin? Almost done rambling here.  At this point Americans got more help during the pandemic under Trump and the republicans, not a good look. Again fuck joe manchin.
    As far I have heard,  Manchin is on board with everything but the minimum wage.  And there is a counter to $10 coming from Romney. The point is that I think the stimulus will pass through reconciliation with a Manchin vote.  
    I;m not a fan of raising the minimum wage to $15 either.  $10 is fine.
    That’s easy to say if you aren’t living on it.  My wife and I are both well above minimum wage, but I still remember those days, hell I even remember making $15 an hour 10 years ago and having a hard time making it and having to work three jobs to do so.  Something major needs to be done IMO. Raise the minimum higher, or somehow lower price and perceived value.  I mean good luck trying to make average rent on $10
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