2020 Fall North American rumour thread

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  • Brisk.
    Brisk. Posts: 11,578
    Think this tour is like 1 month too early doh. Yeah not sure why all those festivals can't delay a few months, surely it's better for everyone to do that than postpone another year!
  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 15,959
    Brian Fallon just cancelled his US tour that was supposed to be this spring/summer after being postponed from last year.   Major bummer.  But I got an email from Ticketmaster that was odd regarding refunds.  It says that if you had tickets transferred to you, the refund would be going to the original purchaser.  In this case I am the original purchaser; but how would this affect people who bought through fan-2-fan?  


    1996: Randall's Island 2  1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2  2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel  2005: Atlantic City 1  2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 (#25) | Newark (EV)  2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4  2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2  2011: Toronto 1  2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2015: Central Park  2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD)  2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF)  2020: MSG | Asbury Park  2021: Asbury Park  2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville  2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2025: Raleigh


  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    on2legs said:
    Brian Fallon just cancelled his US tour that was supposed to be this spring/summer after being postponed from last year.   Major bummer.  But I got an email from Ticketmaster that was odd regarding refunds.  It says that if you had tickets transferred to you, the refund would be going to the original purchaser.  In this case I am the original purchaser; but how would this affect people who bought through fan-2-fan?  


    That would be a mess for Fan to Fan. They would have to do all of the work on their own since they were the ones doing the transactions. They could barely handle getting @mcgruff10 money back months after he sold it. 
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,117
    PJNB said:
    on2legs said:
    Brian Fallon just cancelled his US tour that was supposed to be this spring/summer after being postponed from last year.   Major bummer.  But I got an email from Ticketmaster that was odd regarding refunds.  It says that if you had tickets transferred to you, the refund would be going to the original purchaser.  In this case I am the original purchaser; but how would this affect people who bought through fan-2-fan?  


    That would be a mess for Fan to Fan. They would have to do all of the work on their own since they were the ones doing the transactions. They could barely handle getting @mcgruff10 money back months after he sold it. 
    This would be true!
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • RatherStarved
    RatherStarved Posts: 5,773
    I think the fan to fan mess was unique to PJ, which is not to say there might not also be a separate mess with refunds for transferred tickets to other shows.
    PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024:  Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
     
    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

    Gutted:  London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
  • AmishGuy91
    AmishGuy91 Posts: 834
    I believe there are no payments required to transfer tickets.  It's just a way to gift tickets essentially.  So it makes 100% for the refund to go to the person that actually paid for them.  This is different than Fan to Fan.  
  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,905
    I think fan to fan works like TM's regular reselling site, except for the fact they tickets are restricted to being resold at their face value.   I think this means in refunds, it's follows it's path back?  IE if the last person holding them has them, they request a refund which you pay, which puts you back in possession of the tickets, of which you request a refund from TM.

    It makes little sense when the tickets don't change price, but it's because it's designed so everyone gets the right amount of money back (as it's the same portal used for TM's reseller portal).
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    Zod said:
    I think fan to fan works like TM's regular reselling site, except for the fact they tickets are restricted to being resold at their face value.   I think this means in refunds, it's follows it's path back?  IE if the last person holding them has them, they request a refund which you pay, which puts you back in possession of the tickets, of which you request a refund from TM.

    It makes little sense when the tickets don't change price, but it's because it's designed so everyone gets the right amount of money back (as it's the same portal used for TM's reseller portal).
    Thats exactly how it works trickling back to the previous owner until it gets back to the original owner. If they straight up cancel and start over however I think it would be a huge mess with them trying to get refunds back to everyone especially with people from different countries trying to get refunds. I bet some of these tickets have been sold  5 to 10 times at least. Thats one ticket. I know the majority probably have not sold this many times but that is going to add up very fast and all of those transactions are going to cost them money refunding. I have no clue obviously and maybe thinking this way since I want to keep my tickets. Maybe it would be easy for them but seeing how they handled the refunds and customer service during fan to fan I do not have high hopes that this would not be a disaster. 
  • D-Rod
    D-Rod Hamilton, Ontario Posts: 1,992
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJNB said:
    on2legs said:
    Brian Fallon just cancelled his US tour that was supposed to be this spring/summer after being postponed from last year.   Major bummer.  But I got an email from Ticketmaster that was odd regarding refunds.  It says that if you had tickets transferred to you, the refund would be going to the original purchaser.  In this case I am the original purchaser; but how would this affect people who bought through fan-2-fan?  


    That would be a mess for Fan to Fan. They would have to do all of the work on their own since they were the ones doing the transactions. They could barely handle getting @mcgruff10 money back months after he sold it. 
    This would be true!
    This is why Pearl Jam will never cancel and simply postpone these shows.  Bang on. this would be a nightmare. 
    1996.....Toronto
    2005.....Hamilton
    2011.....Toronto N1, Toronto N2, Hamilton
    2013.....London, Buffalo
    2014.....Detroit
    2016.....Toronto N1 Toronto N2, Boston  N1, Boston N2, Chicago N1
    2018.....Seattle N1, Seattle N2
    2022.....San Diego, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Phoenix, Oakland N1, Oakland N2, Quebec City, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto  
    2023.....Fort Worth N1, Fort Worth N2, Austin N1, Austin N2
    2024.....Las Vegas N1, Las Vegas N2, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Boston N1, Boston N2
    2025.....Raleigh N1, Raleigh N2, Pittsburgh N1, Pittsburgh N2
    2026.....????????????????????????????????????????? 
  • RatherStarved
    RatherStarved Posts: 5,773
    I sold a ticket on fan to fan just before the shutdown.  After holding the proceeds hostage for a while, Ticketmaster eventually paid me.  But then, when they opened the refund window, the buyer took the refund option.  That refund was charged to me, and the ticket returned to my account.  I then had the option to also request a refund, or keep the ticket.  In the end I said F it, I’ll keep it for some future time.  But that was the system.  
    PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024:  Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
     
    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

    Gutted:  London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
  • D-Rod
    D-Rod Hamilton, Ontario Posts: 1,992
    RatherStarved said:
    I sold a ticket on fan to fan just before the shutdown.  After holding the proceeds hostage for a while, Ticketmaster eventually paid me.  But then, when they opened the refund window, the buyer took the refund option.  That refund was charged to me, and the ticket returned to my account.  I then had the option to also request a refund, or keep the ticket.  In the end I said F it, I’ll keep it for some future time.  But that was the system.  
    exact same thing happened to me and I kept the extra pair. 
    1996.....Toronto
    2005.....Hamilton
    2011.....Toronto N1, Toronto N2, Hamilton
    2013.....London, Buffalo
    2014.....Detroit
    2016.....Toronto N1 Toronto N2, Boston  N1, Boston N2, Chicago N1
    2018.....Seattle N1, Seattle N2
    2022.....San Diego, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Phoenix, Oakland N1, Oakland N2, Quebec City, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto  
    2023.....Fort Worth N1, Fort Worth N2, Austin N1, Austin N2
    2024.....Las Vegas N1, Las Vegas N2, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Boston N1, Boston N2
    2025.....Raleigh N1, Raleigh N2, Pittsburgh N1, Pittsburgh N2
    2026.....????????????????????????????????????????? 
  • Lost In Ohio
    Lost In Ohio Posts: 7,253
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  • Weston1283
    Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 5,019
    January 2022 AUS/NZ Tour would make so much sense 
    2010: Cleveland
    2012: Atlanta
    2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
    2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
    2015: New York City
    2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
    2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
    2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
    2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
    2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
    2023: St. Paul II
    2024: Las Vegas I / Las Vegas II / New York City I / New York City II / Philly I / Philly II / Baltimore
  • xjoshfromworkx
    xjoshfromworkx Moline, IL Posts: 138

    I just got my 1st vaccine shot 2 days ago and I had a dream last night that I was parking my car and walking to a venue to see Pearl Jam. I was also carrying a trash bag and found a dumpster along the way to toss it in, I'm not sure what that means... And I stopped at a bar to meet with my buddy where he told me his wife left him to go ride in a limo, I'm also not sure what that means.

    Coincidence? I think not.

    Moline, IL 10-17-2014
    Wrigley #1 8-20-2016
    Wrigley #2 8-22-2016
    Wrigley #1 8-18-2018
    Wrigley #2 8-20-2018

  • hairgrowth2001
    hairgrowth2001 Posts: 456
    The contents in the trash bag represented all that happened in 2020.
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,117
    Well there you go:  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    mcgruff10 said:
    Well there you go:  
    Interested? Always wanted to do Australia but the flight time kills it I think. 
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,117
    PJNB said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Well there you go:  
    Interested? Always wanted to do Australia but the flight time kills it I think. 
    Australia and New Zealand are two countries my wife and I want to visit really bad.  However that s a bad time of year because of teaching.   Definitely not a weekend trip.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • RatherStarved
    RatherStarved Posts: 5,773
    I would take his comment as similar to comments he makes at end of shows like “see you next year” and then they don’t come back for a decade.  He was talking to Australian hosts who asked if they would come there first  and he said he could see it.  What else is he going to say.  
    PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024:  Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
     
    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

    Gutted:  London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
  • AmishGuy91
    AmishGuy91 Posts: 834
    RatherStarved said:
    I would take his comment as similar to comments he makes at end of shows like “see you next year” and then they don’t come back for a decade.  He was talking to Australian hosts who asked if they would come there first  and he said he could see it.  What else is he going to say.  
    Exactly, really surprised others took that as gospel they will be doing a tour in AUS anytime soon. They are not going to re-start internationally.  

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