2020 Fall North American rumour thread

PJNB

So we have 2023 at the earliest for semi normal? Meaning not even normal? Good fucking grief. Wake me up when we have some good news. 

Jim Tressel

2023 at the earliest realistic target for the US is crazy. This thing will be all but over by then. We will all be on our Covid booster shots by then. Cases will be minimal and as the other poster said, money needs to be made. 

HughFreakingDillon

I'm not sure about 15,000 people gathering for a show or a sport (I'm sure the US will be the first to try it), but once the most vulnerable and our health care sector are vaccinated, everything will open back up to near normal. 

RatherStarved

HughFreakingDillon said:

I'm not sure about 15,000 people gathering for a show or a sport (I'm sure the US will be the first to try it), but once the most vulnerable and our health care sector are vaccinated, everything will open back up to near normal. 

I mean, there were 25k at the super bowl.

FiveBelow

Jim Tressel said:

2023 at the earliest realistic target for the US is crazy. This thing will be all but over by then. We will all be on our Covid booster shots by then. Cases will be minimal and as the other poster said, money needs to be made. 

I think we could mostly agree that the best case scenario for a PJ tour is spring/summer 2022. That is only 6-9 months from 2023, what is so crazy about an additional 6-9 months? Money has been made, and they already know what they are sitting on as soon as “normal” touring is a reality again. These guys are not burning through their savings trying to survive the pandemic financially. I do not see them risking the safety of their fans and others before it has been proven safe by bands that don’t have the same luxury. Not trying to discredit or sway anyone, it is just an opinion. Trust me, I am looking forward to the days of @dimitrispearljam dropping hints.

joseph33

My guess is fall of 2022. It takes a lot of time to schedule a tour.

PJNB

joseph33 said:

My guess is fall of 2022. It takes a lot of time to schedule a tour.

While it does they still have two tours that are on hold (three if you count Europe but thats another thread). Its not like they are starting from scratch. Last spring the first leg of the tour that was postponed blended into the fall tour fairly quickly. I would be curious though to know how much of the second leg swing state tour is going to be kept and what cities if any will be scrapped. 

We know next summer will be booked again for them so thats out for the most part. The fall tour last year actually was going to start in August after the reschedule so the option for a repeat of the 2020 new tour is obviously there. 

I still say if its safe next winter/spring they are touring. They listened to the health experts when they cancelled and they will listen to them again going back to shows. If that was not their intention why are they not cancelling the shows and refunding everyone as they wait for others to prove its safe? It makes no sense to me unless they intended to bounce back as soon as they safely could.

SomethingCreative

Yefa said:

Wearing a mask for a rock concert is unfeasible and uncomfortable.  Breathing is the most important thing.  There is also the factor of eating and drinking.  Once 75-80% of people have had the vaccine it will not be necessary to wear masks in public places.  If someone doesn't want to get the vaccine they can stay home and watch live music on their TV or computer screen.

I wear a mask while busting my ass 8+ hours a day. 3-4 hrs while doing something super enjoyable isn’t a big deal.

Jim Tressel

FiveBelow said:

Jim Tressel said:

2023 at the earliest realistic target for the US is crazy. This thing will be all but over by then. We will all be on our Covid booster shots by then. Cases will be minimal and as the other poster said, money needs to be made. 

I think we could mostly agree that the best case scenario for a PJ tour is spring/summer 2022. That is only 6-9 months from 2023, what is so crazy about an additional 6-9 months? Money has been made, and they already know what they are sitting on as soon as “normal” touring is a reality again. These guys are not burning through their savings trying to survive the pandemic financially. I do not see them risking the safety of their fans and others before it has been proven safe by bands that don’t have the same luxury. Not trying to discredit or sway anyone, it is just an opinion. Trust me, I am looking forward to the days of @dimitrispearljam dropping hints.

So I don't know how it works, but I wonder if they feel pressure to get on the road for some of their employees. The band obviously has enough money but I would imagine a tour would help some other people a lot more. 

HughFreakingDillon

RatherStarved said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

I'm not sure about 15,000 people gathering for a show or a sport (I'm sure the US will be the first to try it), but once the most vulnerable and our health care sector are vaccinated, everything will open back up to near normal. 

I mean, there were 25k at the super bowl.

all seated and spaced out. not moving around. big difference than in a floor mosh pit. not saying it was a grand idea, but there is a difference. 

RatherStarved

HughFreakingDillon said:

RatherStarved said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

I'm not sure about 15,000 people gathering for a show or a sport (I'm sure the US will be the first to try it), but once the most vulnerable and our health care sector are vaccinated, everything will open back up to near normal. 

I mean, there were 25k at the super bowl.

all seated and spaced out. not moving around. big difference than in a floor mosh pit. not saying it was a grand idea, but there is a difference. 

I’d take a concert seated and spaced out.  I know that puts me in the minority, but it would actually be kind of civilized.  

HughFreakingDillon

RatherStarved said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

RatherStarved said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

I'm not sure about 15,000 people gathering for a show or a sport (I'm sure the US will be the first to try it), but once the most vulnerable and our health care sector are vaccinated, everything will open back up to near normal. 

I mean, there were 25k at the super bowl.

all seated and spaced out. not moving around. big difference than in a floor mosh pit. not saying it was a grand idea, but there is a difference. 

I’d take a concert seated and spaced out.  I know that puts me in the minority, but it would actually be kind of civilized.  

the only show I've ever been to where every single person was on their ass was Eric Clapton, and I hated it. 

Yefa

SomethingCreative said:

Yefa said:

Wearing a mask for a rock concert is unfeasible and uncomfortable.  Breathing is the most important thing.  There is also the factor of eating and drinking.  Once 75-80% of people have had the vaccine it will not be necessary to wear masks in public places.  If someone doesn't want to get the vaccine they can stay home and watch live music on their TV or computer screen.

I wear a mask while busting my ass 8+ hours a day. 3-4 hrs while doing something super enjoyable isn’t a big deal.

That’s kinda my point.  Wearing a mask for a whole show would make it much less enjoyable.  If concertgoers are vaccinated we won’t need masks at the show.

100 Pacer

2022 here we come.

RatherStarved

Yefa said:

SomethingCreative said:

Yefa said:

Wearing a mask for a rock concert is unfeasible and uncomfortable.  Breathing is the most important thing.  There is also the factor of eating and drinking.  Once 75-80% of people have had the vaccine it will not be necessary to wear masks in public places.  If someone doesn't want to get the vaccine they can stay home and watch live music on their TV or computer screen.

I wear a mask while busting my ass 8+ hours a day. 3-4 hrs while doing something super enjoyable isn’t a big deal.

That’s kinda my point.  Wearing a mask for a whole show would make it much less enjoyable.  If concertgoers are vaccinated we won’t need masks at the show.

I dunno about that.  The vaccines are very good, unbelievable really, but they’re not perfect.  If an Even Bro is hacking up a lung, I’d be more comfortable with a mask, vaccine or no vaccine.  

demetrios

100 Pacer said:

2022 here we come.

helplessdancer

fucking fuck i'm really missing live music. i'm old and this is super hard to deal with right now.

i just want to listen to john prine and have that pretty stuff make me cry...so sad...MISS IT BAD

Zod

I had a dream I was at a Headstones show the other night.  I was supersad when I woke up

Weston1283

Jim Tressel

https://www.wsj.com/articles/well-have-herd-immunity-by-april-11613669731

Hope this guy is right and we will be back to normal very soon.