2021 European Tour Announcement

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  • RatherStarved
    RatherStarved Posts: 5,833
    It will be interesting to see what Boris Johnson announces tomorrow.  I don’t think there’s any chance it could confirm BST is a go, but I could see it confirming it isn’t.  I guess best case scenario is a maybe.  Though, I don’t see how.
    PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024:  Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
     
    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

    Gutted:  London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
  • BlueLedbetter
    BlueLedbetter Posts: 1,380
    RatherStarved said:
    It will be interesting to see what Boris Johnson announces tomorrow.  I don’t think there’s any chance it could confirm BST is a go, but I could see it confirming it isn’t.  I guess best case scenario is a maybe.  Though, I don’t see how.
    They are talking about limited crowds at the euros so that may be an indication for gigs
  • Wakefieldrob
    Wakefieldrob Manchester 1 (2012), Leeds (2014), London 1 & 2 (2018) Posts: 13
    Aerosmith just bumped their European tour (June/July) on by 12 months to 2022. I’d rather this than a cancel 
  • InsideJob75
    InsideJob75 Posts: 126
    BlueLedbetter said:
    RatherStarved said:
    It will be interesting to see what Boris Johnson announces tomorrow.  I don’t think there’s any chance it could confirm BST is a go, but I could see it confirming it isn’t.  I guess best case scenario is a maybe.  Though, I don’t see how.
    They are talking about limited crowds at the euros so that may be an indication for gigs
    Entirely Hypothetical:

    Imagine Hyde Park could go ahead with limited crowd (France suggesting 5,000 capacity outdoors).  Imagine it was some sort of lottery system to see if you could still attend.  Think of the complaints from fans - let alone assume any band would want to play to less than 10% of their audience at a sit-down picnic type gig.

    Just food for thought, not real
    Dublin '06, Lisbon 1 '06, Lisbon 2 '06, London '07, Manchester '09, London '09, Dublin '10, Belfast '10, London '10, Manchester 1 '12, Manchester 2 '12, Berlin 1 '12, Berlin 2 '12, Amsterdam 1 '14, Amsterdam 2 '14, Berlin '14, Leeds '14, London 1 '18, Prague '18, Krakow '18, Berlin '18, London 2 '18, London 1 '22, London 2 '22, Budapest '22, Amsterdam 2 '22
  • Kearn5y
    Kearn5y Ireland Posts: 3,050
    Wakefieldrob said:
    Aerosmith just bumped their European tour (June/July) on by 12 months to 2022. I’d rather this than a cancel 
    I see a lot of artists are doing the same, bumping their tours to next year. Will be happy to keep my tickets until next year.
    Kearnsy
  • InsideJob75
    InsideJob75 Posts: 126
    Kearn5y said:
    Wakefieldrob said:
    Aerosmith just bumped their European tour (June/July) on by 12 months to 2022. I’d rather this than a cancel 
    I see a lot of artists are doing the same, bumping their tours to next year. Will be happy to keep my tickets until next year.
    Aerosmith playing many similar venues as PJ - yet PJ will need to await festivals approval of some dates.  BUT think they should be looking at the non-fetsival dates as important as many bands booking up similar tours around similar dates - Aerosmith, GNR, etc.
    Dublin '06, Lisbon 1 '06, Lisbon 2 '06, London '07, Manchester '09, London '09, Dublin '10, Belfast '10, London '10, Manchester 1 '12, Manchester 2 '12, Berlin 1 '12, Berlin 2 '12, Amsterdam 1 '14, Amsterdam 2 '14, Berlin '14, Leeds '14, London 1 '18, Prague '18, Krakow '18, Berlin '18, London 2 '18, London 1 '22, London 2 '22, Budapest '22, Amsterdam 2 '22
  • Wakefieldrob
    Wakefieldrob Manchester 1 (2012), Leeds (2014), London 1 & 2 (2018) Posts: 13
    Yep looking at Aerosmith official site it’s the headline arena/stadium shows (I have tickets for Sheffield and Manchester) that have moved. Festival dates still showing as 2021- would imagine those will get reconfirmed as and when 
  • RatherStarved
    RatherStarved Posts: 5,833
    Well if PJ ends up in 2022 as well that’s life, but hopefully they will maintain the 2021 order of shows, as it was already a challenge to reorganize tickets after the change of order from 2020.
    PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024:  Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
     
    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

    Gutted:  London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
  • InsideJob75
    InsideJob75 Posts: 126
    RatherStarved said:
    Well if PJ ends up in 2022 as well that’s life, but hopefully they will maintain the 2021 order of shows, as it was already a challenge to reorganize tickets after the change of order from 2020.
    And therein lies the big pain
    Dublin '06, Lisbon 1 '06, Lisbon 2 '06, London '07, Manchester '09, London '09, Dublin '10, Belfast '10, London '10, Manchester 1 '12, Manchester 2 '12, Berlin 1 '12, Berlin 2 '12, Amsterdam 1 '14, Amsterdam 2 '14, Berlin '14, Leeds '14, London 1 '18, Prague '18, Krakow '18, Berlin '18, London 2 '18, London 1 '22, London 2 '22, Budapest '22, Amsterdam 2 '22
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    RatherStarved said:
    Well if PJ ends up in 2022 as well that’s life, but hopefully they will maintain the 2021 order of shows, as it was already a challenge to reorganize tickets after the change of order from 2020.
    Give me the spicy 3 back please and throw in Prague into the mix and I would be a happy man. 
  • Kearn5y
    Kearn5y Ireland Posts: 3,050
    InsideJob75 said:
    Kearn5y said:
    Wakefieldrob said:
    Aerosmith just bumped their European tour (June/July) on by 12 months to 2022. I’d rather this than a cancel 
    I see a lot of artists are doing the same, bumping their tours to next year. Will be happy to keep my tickets until next year.
    Aerosmith playing many similar venues as PJ - yet PJ will need to await festivals approval of some dates.  BUT think they should be looking at the non-fetsival dates as important as many bands booking up similar tours around similar dates - Aerosmith, GNR, etc.
    Have GNR rescheduled again?
    Kearnsy
  • RatherStarved
    RatherStarved Posts: 5,833
    PJNB said:
    RatherStarved said:
    Well if PJ ends up in 2022 as well that’s life, but hopefully they will maintain the 2021 order of shows, as it was already a challenge to reorganize tickets after the change of order from 2020.
    Give me the spicy 3 back please and throw in Prague into the mix and I would be a happy man. 
    Vienna-Krakow-Prague:  Spicy Three 2.0
    PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024:  Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
     
    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

    Gutted:  London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
  • RatherStarved
    RatherStarved Posts: 5,833
    Kearn5y said:
    InsideJob75 said:h
    Kearn5y said:
    Wakefieldrob said:
    Aerosmith just bumped their European tour (June/July) on by 12 months to 2022. I’d rather this than a cancel 
    I see a lot of artists are doing the same, bumping their tours to next year. Will be happy to keep my tickets until next year.
    Aerosmith playing many similar venues as PJ - yet PJ will need to await festivals approval of some dates.  BUT think they should be looking at the non-fetsival dates as important as many bands booking up similar tours around similar dates - Aerosmith, GNR, etc.
    Have GNR rescheduled again?
    Not yet based on their website but it seems inevitable that they will not play 8 Euro shows this June.  
    PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024:  Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
     
    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

    Gutted:  London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    RatherStarved said:
    PJNB said:
    RatherStarved said:
    Well if PJ ends up in 2022 as well that’s life, but hopefully they will maintain the 2021 order of shows, as it was already a challenge to reorganize tickets after the change of order from 2020.
    Give me the spicy 3 back please and throw in Prague into the mix and I would be a happy man. 
    Vienna-Krakow-Prague:  Spicy Three 2.0
    Vienna-Krakow-Prague-Budapest-Zurich. Spicy 5 lets go!
  • JPPJ84
    JPPJ84 Hamburg, Germany Posts: 3,464
    PJNB said:
    RatherStarved said:
    PJNB said:
    RatherStarved said:
    Well if PJ ends up in 2022 as well that’s life, but hopefully they will maintain the 2021 order of shows, as it was already a challenge to reorganize tickets after the change of order from 2020.
    Give me the spicy 3 back please and throw in Prague into the mix and I would be a happy man. 
    Vienna-Krakow-Prague:  Spicy Three 2.0
    Vienna-Krakow-Prague-Budapest-Zurich. Spicy 5 lets go!
    Once the tour takes place, all of them will look pretty damn spicy ;)
  • JackD.
    JackD. Posts: 523
    Still, those rescheduled dates from Aerosmith are a very strong indication, that the EU summer festivals decided to cancel this year. F.e. Graspop wouldn‘t let Aerosmith move to 2022 if they plan to go ahead with 2021.
  • InsideJob75
    InsideJob75 Posts: 126
    Kearn5y said:
    InsideJob75 said:
    Kearn5y said:
    Wakefieldrob said:
    Aerosmith just bumped their European tour (June/July) on by 12 months to 2022. I’d rather this than a cancel 
    I see a lot of artists are doing the same, bumping their tours to next year. Will be happy to keep my tickets until next year.
    Aerosmith playing many similar venues as PJ - yet PJ will need to await festivals approval of some dates.  BUT think they should be looking at the non-fetsival dates as important as many bands booking up similar tours around similar dates - Aerosmith, GNR, etc.
    Have GNR rescheduled again?
    Not yet but it'll have to be Summer 2022 for outdoors Europe ofcourse
    Dublin '06, Lisbon 1 '06, Lisbon 2 '06, London '07, Manchester '09, London '09, Dublin '10, Belfast '10, London '10, Manchester 1 '12, Manchester 2 '12, Berlin 1 '12, Berlin 2 '12, Amsterdam 1 '14, Amsterdam 2 '14, Berlin '14, Leeds '14, London 1 '18, Prague '18, Krakow '18, Berlin '18, London 2 '18, London 1 '22, London 2 '22, Budapest '22, Amsterdam 2 '22
  • InsideJob75
    InsideJob75 Posts: 126
    JackD. said:
    Still, those rescheduled dates from Aerosmith are a very strong indication, that the EU summer festivals decided to cancel this year. F.e. Graspop wouldn‘t let Aerosmith move to 2022 if they plan to go ahead with 2021.
    100%
    Dublin '06, Lisbon 1 '06, Lisbon 2 '06, London '07, Manchester '09, London '09, Dublin '10, Belfast '10, London '10, Manchester 1 '12, Manchester 2 '12, Berlin 1 '12, Berlin 2 '12, Amsterdam 1 '14, Amsterdam 2 '14, Berlin '14, Leeds '14, London 1 '18, Prague '18, Krakow '18, Berlin '18, London 2 '18, London 1 '22, London 2 '22, Budapest '22, Amsterdam 2 '22
  • Gravey1975
    Gravey1975 Posts: 342
    The UK gov is set to announce that ALL legal limits on social contact will be removed from 21 June.

    I can confidently say that BST will now definitely go ahead without any question whatsoever. 100%. Bet the house. 
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    edited February 2021
    Gravey1975 said:
    The UK gov is set to announce that ALL legal limits on social contact will be removed from 21 June.

    I can confidently say that BST will now definitely go ahead without any question whatsoever. 100%. Bet the house. 
    The issue though with festivals is the planning and set up  that would fall before that date. 
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