2021 European Tour Announcement

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  • HailHailVitalogy
    HailHailVitalogy Posts: 6,012
    The economic reality is that the music industry will do absolutely anything to turn even the smallest of profits right now. 
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  • Luckytwn1
    Luckytwn1 Posts: 517
    HailHailVitalogy said:
    The economic reality is that the music industry will do absolutely anything to turn even the smallest of profits right now. 
    Except the festival will not make a profit under your scenario. Far from it. You don’t seem to understand contracts for these performances are long in place. The bands are getting paid their full rates. There is no scenario that works with a crowd of 50 percent or less.
  • Gravey1975
    Gravey1975 Posts: 342
    edited February 2021
    Lucky's point is that by running these events at reduced capacity they wont make a profit,  though. They'd likely make a loss. I don't know the finances involved with these big events but it would be interesting to know what capacity they can operate at to still return some profit. 75%? I remember the PJ show at Hyde Park in 2010 and it was far from sold out. They were still selling tickets at dramatically reduced prices on the day. So that event could easily have been sub 90% attendance with not everyone paying face value. 

    Often these things are sponsored up the yin yang so that would help to some extent. But I still think a full cancellation seems the more likely outcome.
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    edited February 2021
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    So is this some intern running the social media site wishful thinking or is there any chance these actually happen? I seem to remember the day before PJ postponed the fall fests they were still posting positive vibes on social media. Also these could happen with covid restrictions I guess. Hydepark will not have that luxury unless they cancel all tickets and resell with a lot less tickets going out. 
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  • RatherStarved
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    I don’t know the answer, but it’s interesting that Reading is late August.  Those extra 6-8 weeks could matter. 
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  • The Rock
    The Rock Posts: 1,439
    edited February 2021
    Aerosmith postponed their European tour again yesterday and those shows were scheduled for June and July.

    Despite the announcement from the UK government, I don't see any shows going ahead at the end of June and in July.
    This announcement of everything getting back to normal by June 21st depends on everything going well in the run up to that. International travel has still not been sorted. I think we'll see life get to normal later in the year but I think PJ plays in 2022.
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  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    RatherStarved said:
    I don’t know the answer, but it’s interesting that Reading is late August.  Those extra 6-8 weeks could matter. 
    Good point on the dates being later and you maybe right those extra weeks could matter. I think these two will happen but with restrictions still on numbers and spacing. 
  • InsideJob75
    InsideJob75 Posts: 126
    PJNB said:
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    So is this some intern running the social media site wishful thinking or is there any chance these actually happen? I seem to remember the day before PJ postponed the fall fests they were still posting positive vibes on social media. Also these could happen with covid restrictions I guess. Hydepark will not have that luxury unless they cancel all tickets and resell with a lot less tickets going out. 
    This is just to take advantage of press positivity and sell some more tickets to fans desperate for something.... they know full well they may have to cancel.  It's as simple as this.
    If you are in the business of selling tickets, wouldn't you use this to sell more.  If it gets moved to 2022 so be it
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  • E.K
    E.K New South Wales, Australia Posts: 7,726
    Some cool news for us Aussies .. if it really happens.

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  • CopperTom
    CopperTom Posts: 3,149
    My airline changed my itinerary.   I have the option to refuse and get a full refund.  YES!
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  • raindog80
    raindog80 Reggio Emilia, Italy Posts: 1,192
    edited February 2021

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  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    raindog80 said:

    This tour was for May and June. 

    Really hoping I get to see them when they open for Pearl Jam. 
  • raindog80
    raindog80 Reggio Emilia, Italy Posts: 1,192
    I don't see too much difference between May/June or June/July.
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  • raindog80
    raindog80 Reggio Emilia, Italy Posts: 1,192
    edited February 2021
    PJNB said:
    raindog80 said:
    Really hoping I get to see them when they open for Pearl Jam. 
    Really hope so because IDLES are one of the best bands ever. 
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  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    raindog80 said:
    I don't see too much difference between May/June or June/July.
    I was not saying there was.
  • raindog80
    raindog80 Reggio Emilia, Italy Posts: 1,192
    PJNB said:
    raindog80 said:
    I don't see too much difference between May/June or June/July.
    I was not saying there was.
    :(
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  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    raindog80 said:
    PJNB said:
    raindog80 said:
    I don't see too much difference between May/June or June/July.
    I was not saying there was.
    :(
    Any word on Imola when they will announce that they will postpone?
  • JackD.
    JackD. Posts: 523
    I think it‘s time for some info from the band. Ticket refund option ends in 4 weeks. Would love to know before, how 2021 is handled.
  • JPPJ84
    JPPJ84 Hamburg, Germany Posts: 3,464
    edited February 2021
    JackD. said:
    I think it‘s time for some info from the band. Ticket refund option ends in 4 weeks. Would love to know before, how 2021 is handled.
    I think we‘ll definitely know before that deadline 
  • CB254133
    CB254133 Posts: 153
    JPPJ84 said:
    JackD. said:
    I think it‘s time for some info from the band. Ticket refund option ends in 4 weeks. Would love to know before, how 2021 is handled.
    I think we‘ll definitely know before that deadline 
    This current optional refund window is for the rescheduled 2020 shows ie fans that brought tickets for the 2020 dates and couldn't make or didn't want to go to the 2021 shows.  I am guessing that if the 2021 shows are postponed (please, please postpone and not cancel) when we get the new dates there will be another optional refund window for those unfortunate souls that cannot make the 2022 dates.  If the shows are cancelled outright we will all be getting refunds.
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