2020 Fall North American rumour thread

Zod said:

If no ones vaccinated at the show (as only health care workers, care home residents got it), then most people at the show aren't immune to it.  Say for middle aged people it has a 2% chance of requiring hospitalization, and a .05% mortality rate.  Fairly low numbers.    If you do that show before the majority has vaccine's or natural immunity, it's going to rip through that venue like a lighting bolt in a forrest after 6 months of drought.

Say it's a 20000 people show and the virus spreads to half the occupants.  10000 people.  200 could end up in the hospital, and 50 could die (based on my made up but somewhat educated guess on the hospitalization/mortality rates of middle age people).  That doesn't include when they go home and pass it on to family members, friends, and coworkers.

How do you pull that off?  My understanding of Coronavirus is that the most insidious thing about it, isn't how lethal it is, it's how easily it spreads.   A small fraction of a large number is still a significant amount of people.

I think what TM is proposing with the you have to prove your vaccinated or prove a negative test will be the interim step, but they're still going to have until the population has enough vaccinated people to fill most of those seats.

Personally there's no way I go to a concert until I'm vaccinated, which means I'd probably go get one just so I can start doing stuff again.

LeafsJaysCubsRaptorsFan said:

What I’m hearing is 2022. Sorry guys and gals. Hopefully things change. 

Zod said:

Personally there's no way I go to a concert until I'm vaccinated, which means I'd probably go get one just so I can start doing stuff again.

bbiggs said:

PJNB said:

If NA is not happening at any time next year there is no chance at Europe happening.

Pearl Jam has 2 festivals set up next fall. If the doctors and government say it is safe to play I am betting they are going to play. Is 2022 the safe bet for them to allow concerts to happen? Maybe but it is way too early to write off 2021 already and I can not imagine PJ is doing so. We will know a lot more by April after a large amount of the most vulnerable have been vaccinated. 

Again the government and doctors will decide this not Pearl Jam. Now if Pearl Jam is being told not to expect to be allowed to tour until 2022 by the professionals then that is a different story. I would hope however that they use the wait and see approach on how the vaccine works before making a decision like this in December 2020. 

The person who posted this has had reliable information before, as you know, so while I agree with what you're saying, I wouldn't be surprised if there is some truth to this 2022 statement.  Maybe PJ doesn't want to be playing to half full arenas if that is the initial mandate.  Who knows.  I'll continue to hope for Fall 2021, but will set my expectations for 2022 at this point. 

drakeheuer14 said:

If there is a system that doesn’t refer to seniority for reserved seating on the floor, then I am in. If not, so many people say bye bye to that chance of being close. 

RatherStarved said:

LeafsJaysCubsRaptorsFan said:

What I’m hearing is 2022. Sorry guys and gals. Hopefully things change. 

Noooooooooooooooo

tschav said:

At this rate I’d drop a couple hundred bucks for a 10c VR helmet and a livestream show. Everyone gets a rail spot without lining up and a much easier piss break situation.