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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,884
    Biden
    pjl44 said:
    This, from the Biden camp, is not good.



    Why is that not good?  Did you mean to post that on Reason?
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,547
    I'm sitting this one out
    mrussel1 said:
    pjl44 said:
    This, from the Biden camp, is not good.



    Why is that not good?  Did you mean to post that on Reason?
    It's as bad as what Trump said
  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    Biden
    MayDay10 said:
    Yeah, like I said, I dont mind the checks.  A wild swing to unchecked Dem policy would swing the pendulum too far, and it would surely come back (and also result in more violence) IMO.  

    I welcome stability.  That is what I most look forward to.  No more wild tweet storms by our president.  Don't have to worry about a dipshit President making an ass out of all of us while at Diplomatic events.  No more Kushner, Don Jr, etc.,  Heads of cabinet and agencys who are actually qualified.  Adherence to science and facts.  The end of the hostile takeover of the Judiciary.  

    Dont need full student loan forgiveness, further unchecked AA initiatives, banning Christmas, and everything else.  

    Maybe there will be sensible healthcare reform that the Senate will feel pressure to pass through?  
    Checks and balances are definitely important. I don't want my party running amok on general principle, not to mention that if my party can do it, so can the other party.

    In theory a Dem president, GOP Senate, and Dem House is a balance I should like. But starting with Obama, Mitch and his Senate have been more than a check. They've been a hindrance motivated completely out of spite, putting the Red Team ahead of their country, breaking courts, leaving piles of potentially bi-partisan actions on Mitch's desk.  It's disappointing that America didn't come out hard and punish the GOP for its behavior. Mitch's Senate has been the most anti-American US Government body in my memory and they're always, always rewarded handsomely for it.

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  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,856
    Biden
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    MayDay10 said:
    A wild swing to unchecked Dem policy would swing the pendulum too far, 
    Too far in what direction? Lol.  The scary direction of humanity? 

    "I need Lindsey Graham in senate to keep stability"

    There is urgent need for changes. Seems stability through the years hasn't done that much.
    Too far by the way of packing the Supreme Court, Health Care, Affirmative Action initiatives, Immigration stuff, Student Loan forgiveness, etc.  Some of it I agree with, some of it I dont.  

    The Trump group loves to play the victim.  They would draw out immense support.  Probably corral a lot of Biden voters.  We would probably see Domestic Terrorism.  

    So in 2 years, we would probably see a completely devastating result in the midterms, leading into a devastating presidential election in 2024 with someone worse than trump who will actually be capable of passing draconian legislature with a very agreeable and far right congress.

  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,884
    Biden
    pjl44 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    pjl44 said:
    This, from the Biden camp, is not good.



    Why is that not good?  Did you mean to post that on Reason?
    It's as bad as what Trump said
    No it isn't.  They are not saying that there is cheating adn that the vote counting should stop.  They are making an assessment about where the votes remain and their expected margins in those areas.  I'm confident these are informed statements, not bullshit bluster. 
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,490
    I'm sitting this one out
    pjl44 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    pjl44 said:
    This, from the Biden camp, is not good.



    Why is that not good?  Did you mean to post that on Reason?
    It's as bad as what Trump said
    Stop it. Lol.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,547
    I'm sitting this one out
    mrussel1 said:
    pjl44 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    pjl44 said:
    This, from the Biden camp, is not good.



    Why is that not good?  Did you mean to post that on Reason?
    It's as bad as what Trump said
    No it isn't.  They are not saying that there is cheating adn that the vote counting should stop.  They are making an assessment about where the votes remain and their expected margins in those areas.  I'm confident these are informed statements, not bullshit bluster. 
    "We've won the election" is not true and not how either camp should be characterizing the current results publicly
  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,725
    I'm sitting this one out
    Gern Blansten said:
    WI called for Biden
     yep
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Haha. Can not stop reading it like he's being tongue in cheek 


    “Under the couch cushions, behind the stereo....  So bad!”
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,490
    I'm sitting this one out

    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,260
    Biden
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    WI called for Biden
    cnn still hasn't updated. fox news updated it like 10 minutes ago. i've never understood why cnn.com is so slow to update breaking news items. it's strange. 
    NYT hasn't either...I saw it on twitter.  Apparently the WI Sec of State said that all votes are in.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,884
    Biden
    Gern Blansten said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    WI called for Biden
    cnn still hasn't updated. fox news updated it like 10 minutes ago. i've never understood why cnn.com is so slow to update breaking news items. it's strange. 
    NYT hasn't either...I saw it on twitter.  Apparently the WI Sec of State said that all votes are in.
    Because it takes time and effort to make real news..fake.  Doi.
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,537
    Biden
    pjl44 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    pjl44 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    pjl44 said:
    This, from the Biden camp, is not good.



    Why is that not good?  Did you mean to post that on Reason?
    It's as bad as what Trump said
    No it isn't.  They are not saying that there is cheating adn that the vote counting should stop.  They are making an assessment about where the votes remain and their expected margins in those areas.  I'm confident these are informed statements, not bullshit bluster. 
    "We've won the election" is not true and not how either camp should be characterizing the current results publicly
    they are basing it on trends, trump is just trying to convince his cult that he's right. and it isn't biden saying it. big difference. 
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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,425
    Biden
    oftenreading said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Haha. Can not stop reading it like he's being tongue in cheek 


    “Under the couch cushions, behind the stereo....  So bad!”
    I found one tucked inside a laptop I found in the culvert behind my house. The laptop had a 1-800 number for Burisma Holdings tech support on it...
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,537
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    WI called for Biden
    cnn still hasn't updated. fox news updated it like 10 minutes ago. i've never understood why cnn.com is so slow to update breaking news items. it's strange. 
    NYT hasn't either...I saw it on twitter.  Apparently the WI Sec of State said that all votes are in.
    Because it takes time and effort to make real news..fake.  Doi.
    i've been noticing this for years. cnn is always lagging behind updating their website every other reputable website i look at. 
    By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.




  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,547
    I'm sitting this one out
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    pjl44 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    pjl44 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    pjl44 said:
    This, from the Biden camp, is not good.



    Why is that not good?  Did you mean to post that on Reason?
    It's as bad as what Trump said
    No it isn't.  They are not saying that there is cheating adn that the vote counting should stop.  They are making an assessment about where the votes remain and their expected margins in those areas.  I'm confident these are informed statements, not bullshit bluster. 
    "We've won the election" is not true and not how either camp should be characterizing the current results publicly
    they are basing it on trends, trump is just trying to convince his cult that he's right. and it isn't biden saying it. big difference. 
    Basing it on trends leads to confident statements like his campaign manager made earlier. If one doesn't hold their own camp to the same standards, people are less likely to listen if they're howling about the other side later.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,884
    Biden
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    WI called for Biden
    cnn still hasn't updated. fox news updated it like 10 minutes ago. i've never understood why cnn.com is so slow to update breaking news items. it's strange. 
    NYT hasn't either...I saw it on twitter.  Apparently the WI Sec of State said that all votes are in.
    Because it takes time and effort to make real news..fake.  Doi.
    i've been noticing this for years. cnn is always lagging behind updating their website every other reputable website i look at. 
    Honestly my guess is that cnn has its own resources and processes for validating information.  I think they're very conservative in calling states.  The AP, Fox and many others called Virginia hours before cnn
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,425
    Biden
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    WI called for Biden
    cnn still hasn't updated. fox news updated it like 10 minutes ago. i've never understood why cnn.com is so slow to update breaking news items. it's strange. 
    NYT hasn't either...I saw it on twitter.  Apparently the WI Sec of State said that all votes are in.
    Because it takes time and effort to make real news..fake.  Doi.
    i've been noticing this for years. cnn is always lagging behind updating their website every other reputable website i look at. 
    I think they've become really self conscious about their reputation based on Trump's continued screams of Fake News. They don't want to feed that narrative at all so they hesitant a little longer, which is probably a good approach anyway.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,884
    Biden
    tbergs said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    WI called for Biden
    cnn still hasn't updated. fox news updated it like 10 minutes ago. i've never understood why cnn.com is so slow to update breaking news items. it's strange. 
    NYT hasn't either...I saw it on twitter.  Apparently the WI Sec of State said that all votes are in.
    Because it takes time and effort to make real news..fake.  Doi.
    i've been noticing this for years. cnn is always lagging behind updating their website every other reputable website i look at. 
    I think they've become really self conscious about their reputation based on Trump's continued screams of Fake News. They don't want to feed that narrative at all so they hesitant a little longer, which is probably a good approach anyway.
    Yep
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,490
    I'm sitting this one out
    tbergs said:
    oftenreading said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Haha. Can not stop reading it like he's being tongue in cheek 


    “Under the couch cushions, behind the stereo....  So bad!”
    I found one tucked inside a laptop I found in the culvert behind my house. The laptop had a 1-800 number for Burisma Holdings tech support on it...


    Aliens reference

    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"

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