Biden vs Trump 2020 - vote now and discuss!

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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,207
    Biden
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Seems USPS has failed to deliver a bunch of votes. What does that matter as long as they are correctly post/date marked?


    i just read this. south florida. if these get counted could get interesting.

    need to haul dejoy into federal court right now.
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,600
    Biden
    Assuming this to be true given the makeup of the court bothers me much more than any confident outlook on reaching 270. 

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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,531
    Biden
    TWENTY SEVEN PERCENT. and the cultists accuse democrats of cheating?
    By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.




  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    Biden
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Seems USPS has failed to deliver a bunch of votes. What does that matter as long as they are correctly post/date marked?


    i just read this. south florida. if these get counted could get interesting.

    need to haul dejoy into federal court right now.
    What, I want to know more about this because they sure called FL rather quickly. 

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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,489
    I'm sitting this one out
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    TWENTY SEVEN PERCENT. and the cultists accuse democrats of cheating?
    Maybe not.

    What this means is the stats might look worse than they actually are, because in some cases postal workers have, for example, been manually postmarking the ballots and then passing them off for local same-or-next-day delivery, resulting in the ballots never being scanned into the system in the first place. Other measures, like sending ballots to the sorting facility but then removing them from the mail stream after they've been scanned and postmarked, means they are manually bypassing the rest of the process for expedited delivery and are thus scanned in and never scanned out.

    https://www.vice.com/en/article/5dppad/why-the-post-offices-last-minute-ballot-crisis-isnt-as-dire-as-it-seems
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    Biden
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    I just wish these states that are still counting could've been like Florida and not waited to count mail-in votes. It was so predictable that Trump would be leading states like Pennsylvania by the end of the night (without the mail-ins all counted), would declare victory like an asshole, and will claim he was screwed if the total count shows Biden ahead. 

    Both campaigns anticipated this will be litigated and are prepared to go to court. Given Trump's recent history of representation (Cohen, Giuliani, and now Barr), I'd give the advantage to Biden. But of course, Trump has that ace-in-the-hole with conservative majority on the Supreme Court. 

    Most often, each state having it's own laws and regulations isn't a big deal.  But for the one national election, the 51 elections, each of which has it's own subtle (and sometimes not subtle) quirks comes off as odd.  Must look really strange to those from other countries.
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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,546
    I'm sitting this one out
    Don't go full Trump and start yelling about courts and fraud after seeing one tweet
  • cblock4life
    cblock4life Posts: 1,855
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    honestly. regardless of who wins. i'm done with america. fuck america. i can't believe so many people still support this piece of shit after the last four years. it's unimaginable to most people that don't live in your country. see you in 4 years. at best. 
    I feel exactly like this but unfortunately I live here. Even if it ends up Biden the amount of votes for trump still makes me sick. And you care, you actually care and understand more than most. Almost 50% of us are fucking assholes so you’re justified and permitted your feelings and frustration. If more Americans were like you these conversations wouldn’t even be happening. 
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,260
    Biden
    Not a fan of votes being counted into Wednesday and Thursday.  You want to mail it in then mail it ten days in advance.  Or drop it off.  This just creates doubt amongst some of the electorate when you have swings after Election Day.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,884
    edited November 2020
    Biden
    bootlegger10 said:
    Not a fan of votes being counted into Wednesday and Thursday.  You want to mail it in then mail it ten days in advance.  Or drop it off.  This just creates doubt amongst some of the electorate when you have swings after Election Day.
    Why not?  You don't believe in states managing their own elections?  There have been multiple times in our history where counting went well past election day.  2000 comes to mind pretty quickly.
    And fuck the stupid "electorate".  That doubt is being sown by Trump, not by history..not by our founders....not by the laws.  
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,546
    I'm sitting this one out
    cblock4life said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    honestly. regardless of who wins. i'm done with america. fuck america. i can't believe so many people still support this piece of shit after the last four years. it's unimaginable to most people that don't live in your country. see you in 4 years. at best. 
    I feel exactly like this but unfortunately I live here. Even if it ends up Biden the amount of votes for trump still makes me sick. And you care, you actually care and understand more than most. Almost 50% of us are fucking assholes so you’re justified and permitted your feelings and frustration. If more Americans were like you these conversations wouldn’t even be happening. 
    Calling everyone who doesn't vote with you a fucking asshole is about as Trumpy as it gets
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,840
    Biden
    How in the hell are there so many people willing to ignore character?

    And then be also willing to not recognize that controlling Covid is the key to all the other things you want to do (economy, etc). 

    It’s extremely disappointing. 
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,489
    I'm sitting this one out
    pjl44 said:
    cblock4life said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    honestly. regardless of who wins. i'm done with america. fuck america. i can't believe so many people still support this piece of shit after the last four years. it's unimaginable to most people that don't live in your country. see you in 4 years. at best. 
    I feel exactly like this but unfortunately I live here. Even if it ends up Biden the amount of votes for trump still makes me sick. And you care, you actually care and understand more than most. Almost 50% of us are fucking assholes so you’re justified and permitted your feelings and frustration. If more Americans were like you these conversations wouldn’t even be happening. 
    Calling everyone who doesn't vote with you a fucking asshole is about as Trumpy as it gets
    "Starting a war against Nazi Germany is about as Nazi Germany as it gets"
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,546
    I'm sitting this one out
    bootlegger10 said:
    Not a fan of votes being counted into Wednesday and Thursday.  You want to mail it in then mail it ten days in advance.  Or drop it off.  This just creates doubt amongst some of the electorate when you have swings after Election Day.
    They already have the ballots in hand. It's just that some states weren't allowed to start counting them until yesterday so it's going to take a couple days. 
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,416
    edited November 2020
    Biden
    bootlegger10 said:
    Not a fan of votes being counted into Wednesday and Thursday.  You want to mail it in then mail it ten days in advance.  Or drop it off.  This just creates doubt amongst some of the electorate when you have swings after Election Day.
    But if that's the law that state has created, it's not a swing, it's reflective of the voters. It's unfortunate that people like Trump sow doubt in a process that was already established long before election day itself. The age of instant gratification at its worst. 
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,251
    edited November 2020
    Biden
    NYT predicts Biden with 290...AZ, NV, WI, MI and PA going for him

    so...if Biden has 290 EC and wins pop vote by 4mil votes it will be hard for tRump to cry too much.  He won't have any support to fight it.
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,489
    edited November 2020
    I'm sitting this one out
    bootlegger10 said:
    Not a fan of votes being counted into Wednesday and Thursday.  You want to mail it in then mail it ten days in advance.  Or drop it off.  This just creates doubt amongst some of the electorate when you have swings after Election Day.
    Why are you more worried about "doubts" amongs idiots, than about if every citizens vote gets counted in an election?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,416
    Biden
    cincybearcat said:
    How in the hell are there so many people willing to ignore character?

    And then be also willing to not recognize that controlling Covid is the key to all the other things you want to do (economy, etc). 

    It’s extremely disappointing. 
    My wife and I had this conversation last night. It makes no sense, but I hear it from some of my employees, and more disappointing, from an admin above me. 
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,840
    Biden
    bootlegger10 said:
    Not a fan of votes being counted into Wednesday and Thursday.  You want to mail it in then mail it ten days in advance.  Or drop it off.  This just creates doubt amongst some of the electorate when you have swings after Election Day.
    Well the root cause of that problem is that the states own their own election process. 
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,531
    Biden
    pjl44 said:
    cblock4life said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    honestly. regardless of who wins. i'm done with america. fuck america. i can't believe so many people still support this piece of shit after the last four years. it's unimaginable to most people that don't live in your country. see you in 4 years. at best. 
    I feel exactly like this but unfortunately I live here. Even if it ends up Biden the amount of votes for trump still makes me sick. And you care, you actually care and understand more than most. Almost 50% of us are fucking assholes so you’re justified and permitted your feelings and frustration. If more Americans were like you these conversations wouldn’t even be happening. 
    Calling everyone who doesn't vote with you a fucking asshole is about as Trumpy as it gets
    i haven't met one trump voter, in person or online, that doesn't fit that description. 

    i was hesitant about generalizing after he beat hillary. even often scolded people here when they did so. figured people were just tossing their vote in the wishing well. but after this 4 years? sorry, they no longer get the benefit of the doubt. 
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