Biden vs Trump 2020 - vote now and discuss!

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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,415
    Biden
    All the naysayers seem to be forgetting that AZ looks strong for Joe while so far everything else is a repeat of 2016. Trump has lost votes in almost every state race. He didn't gain, but I think many were unrealistic about him keeping the race close because we don't want it to be close at all. Biden will win, but Trump will have wiggle room to drag this out.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    It's time to watch some Family Guy.  This shit is over the top. 

    Good idea.  I'm outta here too. 
    Time to put something in the DVD player.
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  • jerparker20
    jerparker20 St. Paul, MN Posts: 2,529
    Biden
    So the GOP is even making a solid run in many of the state seats here in MN.

    My thoughts on this and national race:
    The civil unrest over the summer has played a much bigger role than I think folks thought it would, or believed it would. Like a lot.

    COVID:
    GOP/Trump Believed that people were tired of it, and gambled that a few more deaths of people in their 80, 90, and 100s didn’t bother the majority. People saw the rallies, saw that Trump got over it fairly quick, and thought I miss getting together with people, I’m tired of all this social distancing, I’m ok with taking the chance of being sick for a few days to have a some what normal life back. Dems (being responsible) looked like no fun with the masks,  virtual rallies and car rallies. Virtual rallies, what a horseshit idea.
  • RoleModelsinBlood31
    RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,242
    weed recreational passes in AZ!  60-40.  niiiiiice
    I'm like an opening band for your mom.
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,107
    Biden
    the United States of Q...
    Scio me nihil scire

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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,521
    Biden
    honestly. regardless of who wins. i'm done with america. fuck america. i can't believe so many people still support this piece of shit after the last four years. it's unimaginable to most people that don't live in your country. see you in 4 years. at best. 
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  • RoleModelsinBlood31
    RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,242
    honestly. regardless of who wins. i'm done with america. fuck america. i can't believe so many people still support this piece of shit after the last four years. it's unimaginable to most people that don't live in your country. see you in 4 years. at best. 
    adios, vaya con dios!
    I'm like an opening band for your mom.
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,939
    weed recreational passes in AZ!  60-40.  niiiiiice
    See how good liberal voters are!
  • RoleModelsinBlood31
    RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,242
    weed recreational passes in AZ!  60-40.  niiiiiice
    See how good liberal voters are!
    shit ill vote for weed, gay rights, pro choice, etc. all day!  just dont raise my taxes or fuck with small business and we're good man
    I'm like an opening band for your mom.
  • cutz
    cutz Posts: 12,255
    tbergs said:
    All the naysayers seem to be forgetting that AZ looks strong for Joe while so far everything else is a repeat of 2016. Trump has lost votes in almost every state race. He didn't gain, but I think many were unrealistic about him keeping the race close because we don't want it to be close at all. Biden will win, but Trump will have wiggle room to drag this out.
    I just put on FOX and there calling Arizona for Biden.


  • RoleModelsinBlood31
    RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,242
    cutz said:
    tbergs said:
    All the naysayers seem to be forgetting that AZ looks strong for Joe while so far everything else is a repeat of 2016. Trump has lost votes in almost every state race. He didn't gain, but I think many were unrealistic about him keeping the race close because we don't want it to be close at all. Biden will win, but Trump will have wiggle room to drag this out.
    I just put on FOX and there calling Arizona for Biden.


    premature but a close one from what im seeing
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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,939
    honestly. regardless of who wins. i'm done with america. fuck america. i can't believe so many people still support this piece of shit after the last four years. it's unimaginable to most people that don't live in your country. see you in 4 years. at best. 
    I think it’s important to try to figure out what’s going on. Rural America is isolated from outsiders, and trump turned democrats into demons, and rural America bought it hook line and sinker. We are to blame for their problems.  Outsiders have no chance to change their minds. It’s an insulated comm7nity and we are the devil, That’s whats going on.

    in the suburbs and cities Dems win 60-40, and in rural America trump wins 70-30. Then factor in the electoral college advantage, and that’s how you get someone like Trump  doing well.

    Dems still have a chance but fading slightly.
  • cutz
    cutz Posts: 12,255
    weed recreational passes in AZ!  60-40.  niiiiiice
    Looks like its going to pass in NJ too.

    67%-33% with 59% of the Vote in.
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    edited November 2020
    We will be days away knowing who wins. PA said they will need a couple of days. MI says Friday, WI says not tonight. Same with GA. 

    AZ going to Biden gives him a couple of more outs at least. Either way should be a shit show for the next couple of days with them trying to get things sorted! 
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,415
    Biden
    honestly. regardless of who wins. i'm done with america. fuck america. i can't believe so many people still support this piece of shit after the last four years. it's unimaginable to most people that don't live in your country. see you in 4 years. at best. 
    I think it’s important to try to figure out what’s going on. Rural America is isolated from outsiders, and trump turned democrats into demons, and rural America bought it hook line and sinker. We are to blame for their problems.  Outsiders have no chance to change their minds. It’s an insulated comm7nity and we are the devil, That’s whats going on.

    in the suburbs and cities Dems win 60-40, and in rural America trump wins 70-30. Then factor in the electoral college advantage, and that’s how you get someone like Trump  doing well.

    Dems still have a chance but fading slightly.
    And I think that split has grown due to the differing opinions about COVID. Rural areas are sick of it and just want to go back to normal. Larger cities take it more seriously and want a solution.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    Biden
    So the GOP is even making a solid run in many of the state seats here in MN.

    My thoughts on this and national race:
    The civil unrest over the summer has played a much bigger role than I think folks thought it would, or believed it would. Like a lot.

    COVID:
    GOP/Trump Believed that people were tired of it, and gambled that a few more deaths of people in their 80, 90, and 100s didn’t bother the majority. People saw the rallies, saw that Trump got over it fairly quick, and thought I miss getting together with people, I’m tired of all this social distancing, I’m ok with taking the chance of being sick for a few days to have a some what normal life back. Dems (being responsible) looked like no fun with the masks,  virtual rallies and car rallies. Virtual rallies, what a horseshit idea.

    I definitely think if George Floyd's murder doesn't happen, tonight might go differently.  The GQP was able to paint the riots as Biden's base and scare people without actually saying anything racist. Hell, here in St. Paul, I felt uneasy for a few days (and from my seat of privilege, I was getting annoyed at how long it was going because I felt it was going to help Biden).

    As for COVID, I feel like most people believe it's serious, but there are a lot of people that view any, and I mean any, requirements as "socialism."  And there's just enough disinformation to 1) validate thoughts and 2) pass on to suckers for their consumption. And, yeah, COVID fatigue set in. I recall leaving my office in March thinking I'd be back by summer. I haven't been back since and we're officially not going back until June.  At some point, people are going to decide "sure, I can work from home, but I'm not going to hide from life."

    And all this to "owning the libs" and the Dems needed a better candidate.
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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,415
    Biden
    PJNB said:
    We will be days away knowing who wins. PA said they will need a couple of days. MI says Friday, WI says not tonight. Same with GA. 

    AZ going to Biden gives him a couple of more outs at least. Either way should be a shit show for the next couple of days with them trying to get things sorted! 
    The good thing is that Trump can't claim anything tonight because he doesn't have a lead so we can hopefully avoid his early calls to end counting of ballots because it isn't in his favor right now.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    tish said:
    Well, do you think I'll miss a President being announced if I shut it down at 8pm bedtime for Pipsqueak around here?
    Nah. Votes won't be counted for at least 3 days. You're ok to call it a night. 
  • wndowpayne
    wndowpayne Posts: 1,469
    cutz said:
    weed recreational passes in AZ!  60-40.  niiiiiice
    Looks like its going to pass in NJ too.

    67%-33% with 59% of the Vote in.

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  • cutz
    cutz Posts: 12,255
    PJNB said:
    We will be days away knowing who wins. PA said they will need a couple of days. MI says Friday, WI says not tonight. Same with GA. 

    AZ going to Biden gives him a couple of more outs at least. Either way should be a shit show for the next couple of days with them trying to get things sorted! 
    Yeah, it looks like we're looking at couple of days, if not more.

    PA. might not give final count until Friday.

    A reporter from Michigan said that Michigan won't be given UNOFFICIAL count until around this time tomorrow night.