Biden vs Trump 2020 - vote now and discuss!

KingJeremyD said:

https://thefederalist.com/2020/10/30/smoking-gun-hunter-biden-email-confirmed-with-forensic-analysis/

Their source is The Daily Caller! 😄

cincybearcat said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Yeah that's good stuff. I didn't learn a thing about banking and credit cards in high school. Oh, but I took trigonometry. You can imagine how little I've used that. 

Mortgages and insurance should be taught too. As well as how to navigate the health-care system. And assistance programs such as food stamps as well. 

So, why don’t parents teach their kids something? Schools need to do everything? 

I do think some of this could be a quick add, but we shouldn’t be relying on school to raise our kids.

Well my parents taught me all that stuff. But not everyone has good parents. Or some have good parents that don’t know that stuff themselves. 

RiotZact said:

PJNB said:

EdsonNascimento said:

mcgruff10 said:

EdsonNascimento said:

Wtf?   Free PJ poster to the first person who deciphers this. 

https://twitter.com/eddiezipperer/status/1322218253247303681?ref_url=https%3a%2f%2ftwitter.com%2f

I m going with “true international pressure”.

I have no idea if you’re right, but you’re the only one that took a shot, so PM me your address and I will send you something.  I promise it won’t be the jackalope, scary Ronald McDonald or Lambman (though now that I think of it Biden does resemble the latter, but alas, I do not own one, so you’re out of luck). 

Of all the screw ups that Trump has done with words over the last 4 years why are you focusing so much on this?

I’m about to have myself a Saturday morning cup of covfefe.

Please be sure to hold the cup with both little hands and drink carefully.

EdsonNascimento said:

Wtf?   Free PJ poster to the first person who deciphers this. 

https://twitter.com/eddiezipperer/status/1322218253247303681?ref_url=https%3a%2f%2ftwitter.com%2f

Is this where Biden ponders injecting bleach?

This conversation started because of the complaints about the court ruling that election officials have to follow state law. Agree not everyone can stand in line to vote in person. You can a month window to vote from your couch. If you don’t like that you have a month window to drop it off. Don’t like that you can drop it off on Election Day at even more voting places. What more do we need to do to make voting easier? I think we’ve done enough. At this point if voting is difficult, it’s because you wanted it to be difficult and not vote. But no one has the right to just ignore the voting laws. But not encoring the voting law is partisan and un American and You must be a Trumper if you do.

dignin said:

EdsonNascimento said:

Wtf?   Free PJ poster to the first person who deciphers this. 

https://twitter.com/eddiezipperer/status/1322218253247303681?ref_url=https%3a%2f%2ftwitter.com%2f

Is this where Biden ponders injecting bleach?

No, I think this is the video where Biden brags to a hollywood suck up show host about how he moves on women like female dogs....and how he does whatever he wants because he is famous, and they let him.  Even grabbing them by the Trump.

josevolution said:

PJNB said:

EdsonNascimento said:

mcgruff10 said:

EdsonNascimento said:

Wtf?   Free PJ poster to the first person who deciphers this. 

https://twitter.com/eddiezipperer/status/1322218253247303681?ref_url=https%3a%2f%2ftwitter.com%2f

I m going with “true international pressure”.

I have no idea if you’re right, but you’re the only one that took a shot, so PM me your address and I will send you something.  I promise it won’t be the jackalope, scary Ronald McDonald or Lambman (though now that I think of it Biden does resemble the latter, but alas, I do not own one, so you’re out of luck). 

Of all the screw ups that Trump has done with words over the last 4 years why are you focusing so much on this?

Because like all his supporters they have nothing else to hang their red hats on too! They are just grasping at straws!

Aren’t you the guy that spent like 12 hours waiting to vote early when there are 13 places in Suffolk county for a million voters rather than wait for Election Day when there will be hundreds (plural) of locations?   Lol.  My little school district alone has 3 on Election Day. I can’t imagine how many Smithtown has.   Lol.  I’m assuming you’re part of the educated group voting Biden. I thank you for making it even easier for me to vote.  I now expect to take 5 minutes instead of the usual 10-15.  

EdsonNascimento said:

josevolution said:

PJNB said:

EdsonNascimento said:

mcgruff10 said:

EdsonNascimento said:

Wtf?   Free PJ poster to the first person who deciphers this. 

https://twitter.com/eddiezipperer/status/1322218253247303681?ref_url=https%3a%2f%2ftwitter.com%2f

I m going with “true international pressure”.

I have no idea if you’re right, but you’re the only one that took a shot, so PM me your address and I will send you something.  I promise it won’t be the jackalope, scary Ronald McDonald or Lambman (though now that I think of it Biden does resemble the latter, but alas, I do not own one, so you’re out of luck). 

Of all the screw ups that Trump has done with words over the last 4 years why are you focusing so much on this?

Because like all his supporters they have nothing else to hang their red hats on too! They are just grasping at straws!

Aren’t you the guy that spent like 12 hours waiting to vote early when there are 13 places in Suffolk county for a million voters rather than wait for Election Day when there will be hundreds (plural) of locations?   Lol.  My little school district alone has 3 on Election Day. I can’t imagine how many Smithtown has.   Lol.  I’m assuming you’re part of the educated group voting Biden. I thank you for making it even easier for me to vote.  I now expect to take 5 minutes instead of the usual 10-15.  

Um, if you're still humping Trump's leg then you shouldn't really judge the education level of others. But sure, yuck it up.

mace1229 said:

tbergs said:

mace1229 said:

what dreams said:

mace1229 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

mace1229 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

also, not everyone can afford to stand in line for hours on election day instead of being at work.

if the choice came down to making $30 for groceries i desperately need for my kids, or spending a half day standing in line to vote, i am going to work to make that grocery money for my kids.

Its free to just drop off a ballot though.

but getting there is a challenge for many. 

Where I've lived there's been many drop off boxes. 
I honestly don't see any room for argument that someone doesn't vote because you can't afford to take a day off or its too hard to get to a voting booth.
You could have gotten a mail in ballot 4 or 5 weeks ago, you could have mailed it in up until about 3 or 4 days ago in any state, and in some you still can. You had 4 or 5 weeks to find a way to a drop off box. I mean, really, how much easier does it need to get?

Since you keep asking the same damn question over and over again, let me help.

In Virginia, I requested an absentee ballot sometime in the late spring/early summer. I can't remember exactly when, but it was a long while ago. It took MONTHS for me to receive it, so long that at one point, I attempted to look it up on the tracking website Virginia set up. No record of my request. 

Life got busy. School started. My mom's health further declined. Ballot in the back of my mind "Shit, I gotta take care of the ballot."

Finally, out of the blue, the ballots arrived. Phew. But I'm still busy. Working. Taking care of house. Mom. Exhaustion. Ballots remain in envelope on the counter. "Shit, I gotta take care of the ballot."

Three weeks ago, we finally fill them out, following the directions like it's the radioactive pill I had to take when I had cancer. Witness. Seal the envelope. Put it on the counter. Intend to drop it off because I don't trust the mail. 

I get busy again. Work. Chores. Mom. "Shit, I have to take care of the ballot."

One week ago, on a Monday afternoon at 4:40, I say, ENOUGH. TAKE CARE OF THE DAMN BALLOT. I speed across town and get to the Election Board office to drop it off by 5:00 closing time. 

It is not that hard. And yet it is that hard.

Try walking in some shoes other than your own, mace. Not everyone lives your perfect life. 
 

My life isn’t perfect. I’m sorry for all that you went through. At any given time you could have mailed it though. You chose not to. That’s up to you. 

This topic started because of a complaint about not extending the mail in deadline. Not even that, accusations that republicans are stealing the election because the courts ruled that they had to follow election rules. Partly why I may have sounded insensitive, because it’s just BS I keep hearing about how it’s so unfair that people have to follow state election rules when voting. So I said it’s easy enough already, you have weeks to mail it in, why do we need a few extra days? Which brought out a response of “well not everyone had the time or money to take 8 hours to stand in line to vote on November 3.” To which I went over the many methods offered.
so would extending the mail in deadline have helped you? Not likely since you don’t like to mail it in.
So what other suggestions do you have to make it easier? I think there’s enough options as is. You already have several choices to vote. I think that’s more than fair.

At the end of the day voting is easy. You can vote from your couch if you want. If you chose not to use the mail then that’s fine, but then don’t complain it’s too difficult when you refuse to use the methods offered to you. 

That’s like me refusing to get a debit card, and then as I write out a check by hand I complain “man, there’s gotta be a more efficient way to do this.”

Well, it's republicans who seemingly want to do everything they can to make voting harder. Again, what's the big deal with accepting ballots that are postmarked properly and received within the week? Especially during a pandemic. Unless of course you're a Trump supporter who believes we're rounding the corner and there are basically zero deaths.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/10/minnesota-judges-barrett-absentee-ballots.html

Nothing is wrong with it if that is what the state law says. But you’re okay with election officials deciding which laws to follow and which ones not to? It’s not about the ballots being mailed on Election Day, it’s about following the state election laws and other people deciding which ones they want to abide by and not. If you have no problem with election officials deciding to ignore state law on election deadlines, then you should be okay next time when the other party decides to just cancel all mail ballots. I’m not okay with either. Follow the law, if you don’t like it then go through the proper channels to have it changed. Don’t just ignore the laws you don’t like. That’s the point.
What has literally happened is the state laws set the due date long time ago. Election officials said they are going to ignore the state law on election. The court said no you can’t. Now people are crying foul and saying ACB is already working for Trump because the court literally said they have to follow the law and not make up their own rules. It’s ridiculous.
This has gone in circles with no real explanation as to why you shouldn’t follow the law. First it was well they shouldn’t have to because I don’t want to wait in line. Well you don’t have to wait in line, just drop it off. Then it was well there aren’t enough drop boxes. Okay so mail one in. Well I don’t trust USPS so I can’t. None of which have anything to do with an extended deadline and following election laws. Each state has their own laws. No one should be allowed to pick which ones they want to follow. If you don’t agree with them, go through legislature to change them.

I don't feel like you read the article on what happened in MN. Seems like the secretary of state was using the authority given by law.

"Thursday’s decision involved yet another dispute over state election law—a dispute that should never have landed in any federal court in the first place. A Minnesota statute requires voters to return mail ballots by Election Day. In May, a voting rights group sued the state to block this rule; it alleged that the deadline is unconstitutional in light of the pandemic, which has placed extraordinary pressure on the state’s vote-by-mail system. Minnesota Secretary of State Steve Simon chose not to fight the lawsuit. Instead, he entered into a consent decree (essentially a settlement) with the plaintiffs, approved by a state court, that halted enforcement of the Election Day deadline. The Minnesota Legislature has expressly authorized the secretary of state to “adopt alternative election procedures” whenever a law “cannot be implemented as a result” of a court order. Pursuant to that law, Simon extended the ballot deadline by one week and informed every voter that their ballot would be counted so long as it is mailed by Election Day and received by Nov. 10."

That was back in May. Along come some Trumpers in September fearing a loss for their almighty so they fuck up what was already announced months prior. Seems reasonable.

"In September, James Carson and Eric Lucero sued in federal court to restore the Election Day deadline. Carson and Lucero will serve as “electors” for Donald Trump if he carries the state, meaning they will vote for him in the Electoral College. Backed by the Republican Party, they alleged that Simon violated the Constitution’s electors clause, which gives state legislatures power to determine the “manner” in which electors are “appointed.” By altering the ballot deadline, they claimed, Simon had usurped the Legislature’s constitutional prerogative."

But they lost their initial case until it got to a rigged court of appeals applying some questionable opinions.

"By a 2–1 vote, a panel of judges for the 8th Circuit reversed Brasel. The majority consisted of Bobby Shepherd, a George W. Bush nominee, and L. Steven Grasz, a notoriously unqualified Trump nominee. Jane Kelly, Barack Obama’s lone nominee to the court, dissented. Shepherd and Grasz blew past the standing problem, holding that the plaintiffs would suffer “a concrete and particularized injury” if late-arriving ballots were counted because they would create an “inaccurate vote tally.” Shepherd and Grasz then ruled that the secretary of state likely exceeded his powers under state law and infringed on the Legislature’s constitutional rights by changing the deadline. They directed the state to segregate ballots that arrive after Nov. 3, and strongly implied that they will soon declare these “invalid” and order them “removed from vote totals.”

As election law expert and Slate contributor Rick Hasen wrote on Thursday, it is hard to know where to start with this outrageous opinion. Its chief argument is, put simply, a lie: The Supreme Court has never held that a state legislature has sole power over election law. Not once. To the contrary, the Supreme Court has explicitly ruled that other members of a state government can modify voting rules: a governor, for instance, or the people themselves through an initiative or referendum. Shepherd and Grasz’s assertion that a secretary of state (with approval from state courts) cannot exercise this power is flat-out wrong. The judges also overrode the Minnesota courts’ interpretation of Minnesota law, an appalling infringement on state sovereignty. It’s a black letter rule of constitutional law that state courts have final say over the meaning of state law. Shepherd and Grasz have no authority to overturn the Minnesota judiciary’s interpretation of the secretary of state’s powers."

Law and order, sure, unless it doesn't benefit them or they don't like the law. What was that about state's rights?

EdsonNascimento said:

josevolution said:

PJNB said:

EdsonNascimento said:

mcgruff10 said:

EdsonNascimento said:

Wtf?   Free PJ poster to the first person who deciphers this. 

https://twitter.com/eddiezipperer/status/1322218253247303681?ref_url=https%3a%2f%2ftwitter.com%2f

I m going with “true international pressure”.

I have no idea if you’re right, but you’re the only one that took a shot, so PM me your address and I will send you something.  I promise it won’t be the jackalope, scary Ronald McDonald or Lambman (though now that I think of it Biden does resemble the latter, but alas, I do not own one, so you’re out of luck). 

Of all the screw ups that Trump has done with words over the last 4 years why are you focusing so much on this?

Because like all his supporters they have nothing else to hang their red hats on too! They are just grasping at straws!

Aren’t you the guy that spent like 12 hours waiting to vote early when there are 13 places in Suffolk county for a million voters rather than wait for Election Day when there will be hundreds (plural) of locations?   Lol.  My little school district alone has 3 on Election Day. I can’t imagine how many Smithtown has.   Lol.  I’m assuming you’re part of the educated group voting Biden. I thank you for making it even easier for me to vote.  I now expect to take 5 minutes instead of the usual 10-15.  

Waited three hours well worth my time there weren’t any polling places in Smithtown we had to go a town over no big deal I’d do it again no problem glad I could help you spend as little time as possible on Tuesday!