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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,258
    Biden
    static111 said:
    ikiT said:
    I don’t think they will be successful overturning the election, but I DO think it’s about way more than just massaging Trump’s ego, they’re going to see how far they can take it, while his idiot base believes the endless stream of lies & his administration ratfucks as much as possible for Biden to have to clean up. 

    those people are MAD pliable...
    & some of them are out stock piling weapons under the impression that the election was stolen from their cheeto jesus. 

    America is now the shit hole country. 
    What do you mean now?  70 years ago they were burning people and hanging them from trees for being the wrong color. Before that Japanese internment camps. Slavery.  Native genocide....the roots make the fruits! Flint didn’t have clean water long before trumpers. People going bankrupt for healthcare. Environmental destruction. People were hiring based on prejudices etc.  it’s just a much worse shit hole now

    the sole positive of fuckstick, wiped the cobwebs from peoples eyes. pulled the curtain back to reveal the dark festering underbelly of this country. FAR too many people think the slick and shiny America brochure is true. its not.  never has been in practice.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,814
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    Biden
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,814
    Biden
    static111 said:

    Sidney Powell: "The entire election, frankly, in all the swing states should be overturned and the legislatures should make sure that the electors are selected for Trump"
    She's full in on the grift at this point.
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,258
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:

    Sidney Powell: "The entire election, frankly, in all the swing states should be overturned and the legislatures should make sure that the electors are selected for Trump"
    She's full in on the grift at this point.

    you'll note the channel(s) they appear on. they cant sell that garbage mainstream.
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  • static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    Biden
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:

    Sidney Powell: "The entire election, frankly, in all the swing states should be overturned and the legislatures should make sure that the electors are selected for Trump"
    She's full in on the grift at this point.

    you'll note the channel(s) they appear on. they cant sell that garbage mainstream.
    I think Fox has the viewers outreach and influence to be considered mainstream.  It’s not a fringe outlet.  It is a very dangerous mainstream right wing propaganda machine.
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,645
    Biden
    static111 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:

    Sidney Powell: "The entire election, frankly, in all the swing states should be overturned and the legislatures should make sure that the electors are selected for Trump"
    She's full in on the grift at this point.

    you'll note the channel(s) they appear on. they cant sell that garbage mainstream.
    I think Fox has the viewers outreach and influence to be considered mainstream.  It’s not a fringe outlet.  It is a very dangerous mainstream right wing propaganda machine.
    yet it offers conflicting views....Geraldo Rivera was on there yesterday saying there was no evidence of fraud and that they were pushing a false narrative...then Tucker Carlson last night was saying there is no proof being offered.
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,194
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:

    Sidney Powell: "The entire election, frankly, in all the swing states should be overturned and the legislatures should make sure that the electors are selected for Trump"
    She's full in on the grift at this point.
    That's almost an insult to actual grifters. Grifting at least tends to use some clever deception.  She's just saying "come on, you know you want to give to us regardless of what actually happened. Because MAGA."
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,032
    Biden
    “People coming over from Camden to vote happens all the time. It’s as common as getting beaten up at a Philadelphia Eagles football game.” @The Juggler

    BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
    Bad things happen here, man. BAAAAAAAD THINGS


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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,032
    edited November 2020
    Biden
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:

    Sidney Powell: "The entire election, frankly, in all the swing states should be overturned and the legislatures should make sure that the electors are selected for Trump"
    She's full in on the grift at this point.
    That's almost an insult to actual grifters. Grifting at least tends to use some clever deception.  She's just saying "come on, you know you want to give to us regardless of what actually happened. Because MAGA."
    These are not serious lawyers. If Trump had legitimate people representing him, it might be of concern. But the fact that no reputable lawyer wants to be anywhere near this clown show....it tells you all you need to know. 
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,194
    Biden
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:

    Sidney Powell: "The entire election, frankly, in all the swing states should be overturned and the legislatures should make sure that the electors are selected for Trump"
    She's full in on the grift at this point.
    That's almost an insult to actual grifters. Grifting at least tends to use some clever deception.  She's just saying "come on, you know you want to give to us regardless of what actually happened. Because MAGA."
    These are not serious lawyers. If Trump had legitimate people representing him, it might be of concern. But the fact that no reputable lawyer wants to be anywhere near this clown show....it tells you all you need to know. 
    It really is amazing that there are probably 50 million people in this country that want Trump to be awarded a second term regardless of what happened and not one of those people seems to be a sane, competent attorney.  I just hope there are not enough on key state election boards (or whoever handles certification).
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  • static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    Biden
    Can trump call for martial law?
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,194
    Biden
    static111 said:
    Can trump call for martial law?
    If threatening and bribing electors in key states doesn't work, I am sure we'll find out.  I could totally see him trying to do so via tweet and the rest of the country just shrugging its collective shoulders. Of course, the move will probably be to try to unleash his cult on the streets so that it's forced to happen. Not sure how it could play out after that.

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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,292
    Biden
    mickeyrat said:
    brianlux said:
    I don’t think they will be successful overturning the election, but I DO think it’s about way more than just massaging Trump’s ego, they’re going to see how far they can take it, while his idiot base believes the endless stream of lies & his administration ratfucks as much as possible for Biden to have to clean up. 


    Exactly- his whole trip right now is to try and fuck things up for Biden as much as possible.  And  a lot of weird ego bullshit gaining him fawning fans on one side and negative attention from pretty much everyone else. 

    good or bad , he's center of attention. he doesnt care which. his name is on your mind....

    Exactly!  It's his m.o.
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  • “People coming over from Camden to vote happens all the time. It’s as common as getting beaten up at a Philadelphia Eagles football game.” @The Juggler

    BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
    Bad things happen here, man. BAAAAAAAD THINGS


    6 baby, 6. Where’s that “dynasty?” Oh yea, baaaaaaaaad things happen there.
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,194
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,814
    Biden
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:

    Sidney Powell: "The entire election, frankly, in all the swing states should be overturned and the legislatures should make sure that the electors are selected for Trump"
    She's full in on the grift at this point.
    That's almost an insult to actual grifters. Grifting at least tends to use some clever deception.  She's just saying "come on, you know you want to give to us regardless of what actually happened. Because MAGA."
    Haha.  I stand corrected.  You are right. 
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,032
    Biden
    “People coming over from Camden to vote happens all the time. It’s as common as getting beaten up at a Philadelphia Eagles football game.” @The Juggler

    BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
    Bad things happen here, man. BAAAAAAAD THINGS


    6 baby, 6. Where’s that “dynasty?” Oh yea, baaaaaaaaad things happen there.
    Enjoy the 6. Nothing's better than the first though. God speed!
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  • “People coming over from Camden to vote happens all the time. It’s as common as getting beaten up at a Philadelphia Eagles football game.” @The Juggler

    BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
    Bad things happen here, man. BAAAAAAAD THINGS


    6 baby, 6. Where’s that “dynasty?” Oh yea, baaaaaaaaad things happen there.
    Enjoy the 6. Nothing's better than the first though. God speed!


    When your team wins 6 in 20 years, we can have that conversation.

    That 4th one against Seattle is far & away my favorite of the 6.

  • Back to the matter at hand: the GOP and American conservatives are the real victims in all of this. 

    Victims of liberal policies, victims of liberal elitism, victims to the whims of the majority of American voters. Poor, poor, poor conservatives, such victims, let’s all say a prayer for them. 

  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,032
    Biden
    “People coming over from Camden to vote happens all the time. It’s as common as getting beaten up at a Philadelphia Eagles football game.” @The Juggler

    BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
    Bad things happen here, man. BAAAAAAAD THINGS


    6 baby, 6. Where’s that “dynasty?” Oh yea, baaaaaaaaad things happen there.
    Enjoy the 6. Nothing's better than the first though. God speed!


    When your team wins 6 in 20 years, we can have that conversation.

    That 4th one against Seattle is far & away my favorite of the 6.

    Unfortunately for you, the discussion is already happening. 
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  • “People coming over from Camden to vote happens all the time. It’s as common as getting beaten up at a Philadelphia Eagles football game.” @The Juggler

    BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
    Bad things happen here, man. BAAAAAAAD THINGS


    6 baby, 6. Where’s that “dynasty?” Oh yea, baaaaaaaaad things happen there.
    Enjoy the 6. Nothing's better than the first though. God speed!


    When your team wins 6 in 20 years, we can have that conversation.

    That 4th one against Seattle is far & away my favorite of the 6.

    Unfortunately for you, the discussion is already happening. 
    lol
  • “People coming over from Camden to vote happens all the time. It’s as common as getting beaten up at a Philadelphia Eagles football game.” @The Juggler

    BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
    Bad things happen here, man. BAAAAAAAD THINGS


    6 baby, 6. Where’s that “dynasty?” Oh yea, baaaaaaaaad things happen there.
    Enjoy the 6. Nothing's better than the first though. God speed!


    When your team wins 6 in 20 years, we can have that conversation.

    That 4th one against Seattle is far & away my favorite of the 6.

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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,194
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    Back to the matter at hand: the GOP and American conservatives are the real victims in all of this. 

    Victims of liberal policies, victims of liberal elitism, victims to the whims of the majority of American voters. Poor, poor, poor conservatives, such victims, let’s all say a prayer for them. 


    I don't think it was planned by Trump or understood by his followers and the GQP in 2015 but Trump's ability to be the victim and to make others feel like victims might be the most important element to the unprecedented level of devotion we're seeing.
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,578
    edited November 2020
    OnWis97 said:
    Back to the matter at hand: the GOP and American conservatives are the real victims in all of this. 

    Victims of liberal policies, victims of liberal elitism, victims to the whims of the majority of American voters. Poor, poor, poor conservatives, such victims, let’s all say a prayer for them. 


    I don't think it was planned by Trump or understood by his followers and the GQP in 2015 but Trump's ability to be the victim and to make others feel like victims might be the most important element to the unprecedented level of devotion we're seeing.

    I disagree, I think Trump has been playing the victim since day one & plenty of his followers have followed suit.

    A former friend who turned into a huge trumper told me at the 2016 election verbatim: "No one in America has it harder than the middle class white male right now."


    Perceived victimhood is ingrained in this movement.

  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,194
    Biden
    OnWis97 said:
    Back to the matter at hand: the GOP and American conservatives are the real victims in all of this. 

    Victims of liberal policies, victims of liberal elitism, victims to the whims of the majority of American voters. Poor, poor, poor conservatives, such victims, let’s all say a prayer for them. 


    I don't think it was planned by Trump or understood by his followers and the GQP in 2015 but Trump's ability to be the victim and to make others feel like victims might be the most important element to the unprecedented level of devotion we're seeing.

    I disagree, I think Trump has been playing the victim since day one & plenty of his followers have followed suit.

    A former friend who turned into a huge trumper told me at the 2016 election verbatim: "No one in America has it harder than the middle class white male right now."


    Perceived victimhood is ingrained in this movement.

    I actually think that victimhood is sort of a crutch held by people of all kinds. So in a sense, this isn't surprising.  Your former friend's statement, while particularly hyperbolic, is kind of an unpolished or over-the-top version of crap I've been hearing for decades. It's kind of an extension of the whole "I worked my ASS off with no help from anyone" line you get from people that almost always had some help. "I do so much and get so little thanks to (insert scapegoat)." And of course these are the same people that accuse others of playing the victim. It's really an ego boost to think you've overcome so much and if the world was fair, you'd be on top of the world.

    So in a sense you're right.  But I don't think bringing Trump in because he was a whiner was really what happened.  I think they kind of struck gold by accident when Trump really got going with all the bitching, whining, and moaning. Maybe I was just naive but I kind of thought that acting like a big baby all the time was going to hurt him...obviously not, his devotees view it as strength. Or they at least view it as relatable, since they too are victims of (scapegoats).
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  • OnWis97 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    Back to the matter at hand: the GOP and American conservatives are the real victims in all of this. 

    Victims of liberal policies, victims of liberal elitism, victims to the whims of the majority of American voters. Poor, poor, poor conservatives, such victims, let’s all say a prayer for them. 


    I don't think it was planned by Trump or understood by his followers and the GQP in 2015 but Trump's ability to be the victim and to make others feel like victims might be the most important element to the unprecedented level of devotion we're seeing.

    I disagree, I think Trump has been playing the victim since day one & plenty of his followers have followed suit.

    A former friend who turned into a huge trumper told me at the 2016 election verbatim: "No one in America has it harder than the middle class white male right now."


    Perceived victimhood is ingrained in this movement.

    I actually think that victimhood is sort of a crutch held by people of all kinds. So in a sense, this isn't surprising.  Your former friend's statement, while particularly hyperbolic, is kind of an unpolished or over-the-top version of crap I've been hearing for decades. It's kind of an extension of the whole "I worked my ASS off with no help from anyone" line you get from people that almost always had some help. "I do so much and get so little thanks to (insert scapegoat)." And of course these are the same people that accuse others of playing the victim. It's really an ego boost to think you've overcome so much and if the world was fair, you'd be on top of the world.

    So in a sense you're right.  But I don't think bringing Trump in because he was a whiner was really what happened.  I think they kind of struck gold by accident when Trump really got going with all the bitching, whining, and moaning. Maybe I was just naive but I kind of thought that acting like a big baby all the time was going to hurt him...obviously not, his devotees view it as strength. Or they at least view it as relatable, since they too are victims of (scapegoats).
    He literally promised to build a wall between us & Mexico. 

    White victimhood was a staple of his campaign. 
  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,560
    GA just certified its results. 
  • KatKat Posts: 4,878
    Biden
    PJNB said:
    GA just certified its results. 
    Thereby letting all candidates in Georgia know that they'll have to beat their opponent fair and square while that official is in charge. Take that, wannabe cheaters.
    Falling down,...not staying down
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