So how about those fan club singles *edit* THAT I FINALLY GOT!!

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  • FR181798
    FR181798 Posts: 2,166
    edited October 2020
    This is probably the first time Ive ever thought there is no point in signing up for another year. Like most if you in the past 4 years and $140 later Ive got very little to show for those years. I got better tickets via the venue, Vault is available to all. I dont have time to sit around and wait on psst messages. 
  • FR181798
    FR181798 Posts: 2,166
    Maybe whoever wins and gets to hang with Eddie and Jeff can ask them whats happened to the fanclub singles. LOL
  • THEBIBLEISTEN
    THEBIBLEISTEN Posts: 2,002
    edited October 2020
    Clapper said:
    I'm all for getting what you paid for and make no mistake, these singles are owed and the time that has elapsed since they were due is nothing short of cartoonish at this point. But...some of the time, effort and to be honest, creepy levels of intensity that some of you have brought to this debate is bananas.  A little food for thought:   Do you truly believe that the singles wont be forthcoming at some point? Assuming they are definitely coming, is when they show up something that is going to make a big difference in your life one way or the other?  What is all of that time and (negative) energy worth? Fan club singles can't be a good ROI there. 
    No, I don’t believe they will , only for the fact they have had 3 years and nothing. It’s principal and this band is all about principal so now it’s time to show theirs
    Post edited by THEBIBLEISTEN on
  • Clapper said:
    I'm all for getting what you paid for and make no mistake, these singles are owed and the time that has elapsed since they were due is nothing short of cartoonish at this point. But...some of the time, effort and to be honest, creepy levels of intensity that some of you have brought to this debate is bananas.  A little food for thought:   Do you truly believe that the singles wont be forthcoming at some point? Assuming they are definitely coming, is when they show up something that is going to make a big difference in your life one way or the other?  What is all of that time and (negative) energy worth? Fan club singles can't be a good ROI there. 
    No, I don’t believe they will , only for the fact they have had 3 years and nothing. It’s principal and this band is all about principal so now it’s time to show there’s 
    Also, what company would you pay for something from 3 years ago and never receive and not question it?
  • JB16057
    JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    on2legs said:
    JB16057 said:
    on2legs said:
    on2legs said:
    on2legs said:
    They have treated their fans like garbage. Not sure if it’s legal to take money for goods that were not delivered , any lawyers on here? Is there fines for lieing to consumers and not providing goods that were paid for 3 years ago? What is our options?

    tenclub, an update would go along way. Interested in communicating anything with the people?
    https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/267256/2016-ten-club-single-legal-action#latest

    Proof that at least two people can have the same ridiculous idea. 
    I understand your whole point being on this forum is to stick up to the tenclub in every instance, for whatever reason --

    -- but what is ridiculous here from that posters POV? 

    What is ridiculous is Tim Bearmans ( @Rubysdad ) response to the AG (when a poster contacted an AG) with "we never promised a delivery date and making vinyl takes time" or whatever he used as a reason. 

    ... It's been a couple of years now. Lol. Seems a lot of other vinyl has been pressed and delivered. Both from the PJ camp and other artists.

    You haven’t paid attention.  I’ve said many times that this is poor customer service.  

    I’ve just be very clear in saying that some people are making a ridiculous mountain out of a mole hill.  There is one person in particular who has suggested hiring an attorney to sue, actually complained to the Attorney General of the state of Washington and also threatened to release personal email addresses for ten club employees as a way to retaliate. Way over the top behavior and worthy of scrutiny. 
    they didn't actually threaten to release personal information. this information is readily available online. they actually said "i was going to post it here, but decided against it" or something along those lines. i saw the exact post. i saw nothing of a threat whatsoever, even if the mods saw it differently. 
    The mods deleted the post. They saw it for exactly what it was.  A threat of retaliation.  

    You’re seriously defending someone who suggested doing that over a record?
    Releasing an email address that anyone/everyone can find doing a google search is not a threat of retaliation. Not only can you find it on the internet, it was the email address that he replied back to the AG with. All of that information is public information.

    In Tim's response to the AG, he called us customers. Have you ever asked to speak to a manager? Do you think it does any good to speak to a manager instead of someone who just answers emails with canned responses like the others at the 10c? Tim is the manager on 10c and this falls on him. I don't know if Tim is causing the delays but I do know that he can instruct the company that he manages to give us an update with real information. The last official update we received was over 6 months ago. I'd say that amount of time justifies an official update.

    Do you really think that is an unreasonable request?
    Dude.  You specifically said that you got Tim’s email from the paperwork sent to you by the AG.  And you specifically said you were contemplating posting it here because you weren’t getting the response you wanted.  Thats unreasonable behavior. 
    Dude, I did not specifically say I was contemplating on releasing it. I have the post saved, do you? Stop making things up!!!

    You obviously do not care about the singles and that is totally OK. You keep coming back to these threads to troll those that do care. Your behavior is so reasonable!!!
  • JB16057 said:
    on2legs said:
    JB16057 said:
    on2legs said:
    on2legs said:
    on2legs said:
    They have treated their fans like garbage. Not sure if it’s legal to take money for goods that were not delivered , any lawyers on here? Is there fines for lieing to consumers and not providing goods that were paid for 3 years ago? What is our options?

    tenclub, an update would go along way. Interested in communicating anything with the people?
    https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/267256/2016-ten-club-single-legal-action#latest

    Proof that at least two people can have the same ridiculous idea. 
    I understand your whole point being on this forum is to stick up to the tenclub in every instance, for whatever reason --

    -- but what is ridiculous here from that posters POV? 

    What is ridiculous is Tim Bearmans ( @Rubysdad ) response to the AG (when a poster contacted an AG) with "we never promised a delivery date and making vinyl takes time" or whatever he used as a reason. 

    ... It's been a couple of years now. Lol. Seems a lot of other vinyl has been pressed and delivered. Both from the PJ camp and other artists.

    You haven’t paid attention.  I’ve said many times that this is poor customer service.  

    I’ve just be very clear in saying that some people are making a ridiculous mountain out of a mole hill.  There is one person in particular who has suggested hiring an attorney to sue, actually complained to the Attorney General of the state of Washington and also threatened to release personal email addresses for ten club employees as a way to retaliate. Way over the top behavior and worthy of scrutiny. 
    they didn't actually threaten to release personal information. this information is readily available online. they actually said "i was going to post it here, but decided against it" or something along those lines. i saw the exact post. i saw nothing of a threat whatsoever, even if the mods saw it differently. 
    The mods deleted the post. They saw it for exactly what it was.  A threat of retaliation.  

    You’re seriously defending someone who suggested doing that over a record?
    Releasing an email address that anyone/everyone can find doing a google search is not a threat of retaliation. Not only can you find it on the internet, it was the email address that he replied back to the AG with. All of that information is public information.

    In Tim's response to the AG, he called us customers. Have you ever asked to speak to a manager? Do you think it does any good to speak to a manager instead of someone who just answers emails with canned responses like the others at the 10c? Tim is the manager on 10c and this falls on him. I don't know if Tim is causing the delays but I do know that he can instruct the company that he manages to give us an update with real information. The last official update we received was over 6 months ago. I'd say that amount of time justifies an official update.

    Do you really think that is an unreasonable request?
    Dude.  You specifically said that you got Tim’s email from the paperwork sent to you by the AG.  And you specifically said you were contemplating posting it here because you weren’t getting the response you wanted.  Thats unreasonable behavior. 
    Dude, I did not specifically say I was contemplating on releasing it. I have the post saved, do you? Stop making things up!!!

    You obviously do not care about the singles and that is totally OK. You keep coming back to these threads to troll those that do care. Your behavior is so reasonable!!!
    Makes you think, doesn't it.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 15,950
    edited October 2020
    JB16057 said:
    on2legs said:
    JB16057 said:
    on2legs said:
    on2legs said:
    on2legs said:
    They have treated their fans like garbage. Not sure if it’s legal to take money for goods that were not delivered , any lawyers on here? Is there fines for lieing to consumers and not providing goods that were paid for 3 years ago? What is our options?

    tenclub, an update would go along way. Interested in communicating anything with the people?
    https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/267256/2016-ten-club-single-legal-action#latest

    Proof that at least two people can have the same ridiculous idea. 
    I understand your whole point being on this forum is to stick up to the tenclub in every instance, for whatever reason --

    -- but what is ridiculous here from that posters POV? 

    What is ridiculous is Tim Bearmans ( @Rubysdad ) response to the AG (when a poster contacted an AG) with "we never promised a delivery date and making vinyl takes time" or whatever he used as a reason. 

    ... It's been a couple of years now. Lol. Seems a lot of other vinyl has been pressed and delivered. Both from the PJ camp and other artists.

    You haven’t paid attention.  I’ve said many times that this is poor customer service.  

    I’ve just be very clear in saying that some people are making a ridiculous mountain out of a mole hill.  There is one person in particular who has suggested hiring an attorney to sue, actually complained to the Attorney General of the state of Washington and also threatened to release personal email addresses for ten club employees as a way to retaliate. Way over the top behavior and worthy of scrutiny. 
    they didn't actually threaten to release personal information. this information is readily available online. they actually said "i was going to post it here, but decided against it" or something along those lines. i saw the exact post. i saw nothing of a threat whatsoever, even if the mods saw it differently. 
    The mods deleted the post. They saw it for exactly what it was.  A threat of retaliation.  

    You’re seriously defending someone who suggested doing that over a record?
    Releasing an email address that anyone/everyone can find doing a google search is not a threat of retaliation. Not only can you find it on the internet, it was the email address that he replied back to the AG with. All of that information is public information.

    In Tim's response to the AG, he called us customers. Have you ever asked to speak to a manager? Do you think it does any good to speak to a manager instead of someone who just answers emails with canned responses like the others at the 10c? Tim is the manager on 10c and this falls on him. I don't know if Tim is causing the delays but I do know that he can instruct the company that he manages to give us an update with real information. The last official update we received was over 6 months ago. I'd say that amount of time justifies an official update.

    Do you really think that is an unreasonable request?
    Dude.  You specifically said that you got Tim’s email from the paperwork sent to you by the AG.  And you specifically said you were contemplating posting it here because you weren’t getting the response you wanted.  Thats unreasonable behavior. 
    Dude, I did not specifically say I was contemplating on releasing it. I have the post saved, do you? Stop making things up!!!

    You obviously do not care about the singles and that is totally OK. You keep coming back to these threads to troll those that do care. Your behavior is so reasonable!!!
     I don’t have your post saved.  But then again I’m not preparing a court case against the ten club. 

     Maybe the fact that the ten club deleted it might be a clue to you that your behavior was out of line. 

    Post edited by on2legs on
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  • joeembleton
    joeembleton Glasgow Posts: 411
    Polite message asking for update
    Not so polite message asking for update
    Polite mail asking not so polite people to be polite
    Not so polite mail stating if you do not accept impolite message you don't care about this subject
    Not so polite response stating that is fucking ridiculous
    More impolite messages back and forth
    Thread locked
    Wait six months
    Repeat
  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 15,950
    Polite message asking for update
    Not so polite message asking for update
    Polite mail asking not so polite people to be polite
    Not so polite mail stating if you do not accept impolite message you don't care about this subject
    Not so polite response stating that is fucking ridiculous
    More impolite messages back and forth
    Thread locked
    Wait six months
    Repeat
    That’s pretty accurate.  
    1996: Randall's Island 2  1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2  2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel  2005: Atlantic City 1  2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 (#25) | Newark (EV)  2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4  2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2  2011: Toronto 1  2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2015: Central Park  2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD)  2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF)  2020: MSG | Asbury Park  2021: Asbury Park  2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville  2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2025: Raleigh


  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,449
    on2legs said:
    JB16057 said:
    on2legs said:
    JB16057 said:
    on2legs said:
    on2legs said:
    on2legs said:
    They have treated their fans like garbage. Not sure if it’s legal to take money for goods that were not delivered , any lawyers on here? Is there fines for lieing to consumers and not providing goods that were paid for 3 years ago? What is our options?

    tenclub, an update would go along way. Interested in communicating anything with the people?
    https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/267256/2016-ten-club-single-legal-action#latest

    Proof that at least two people can have the same ridiculous idea. 
    I understand your whole point being on this forum is to stick up to the tenclub in every instance, for whatever reason --

    -- but what is ridiculous here from that posters POV? 

    What is ridiculous is Tim Bearmans ( @Rubysdad ) response to the AG (when a poster contacted an AG) with "we never promised a delivery date and making vinyl takes time" or whatever he used as a reason. 

    ... It's been a couple of years now. Lol. Seems a lot of other vinyl has been pressed and delivered. Both from the PJ camp and other artists.

    You haven’t paid attention.  I’ve said many times that this is poor customer service.  

    I’ve just be very clear in saying that some people are making a ridiculous mountain out of a mole hill.  There is one person in particular who has suggested hiring an attorney to sue, actually complained to the Attorney General of the state of Washington and also threatened to release personal email addresses for ten club employees as a way to retaliate. Way over the top behavior and worthy of scrutiny. 
    they didn't actually threaten to release personal information. this information is readily available online. they actually said "i was going to post it here, but decided against it" or something along those lines. i saw the exact post. i saw nothing of a threat whatsoever, even if the mods saw it differently. 
    The mods deleted the post. They saw it for exactly what it was.  A threat of retaliation.  

    You’re seriously defending someone who suggested doing that over a record?
    Releasing an email address that anyone/everyone can find doing a google search is not a threat of retaliation. Not only can you find it on the internet, it was the email address that he replied back to the AG with. All of that information is public information.

    In Tim's response to the AG, he called us customers. Have you ever asked to speak to a manager? Do you think it does any good to speak to a manager instead of someone who just answers emails with canned responses like the others at the 10c? Tim is the manager on 10c and this falls on him. I don't know if Tim is causing the delays but I do know that he can instruct the company that he manages to give us an update with real information. The last official update we received was over 6 months ago. I'd say that amount of time justifies an official update.

    Do you really think that is an unreasonable request?
    Dude.  You specifically said that you got Tim’s email from the paperwork sent to you by the AG.  And you specifically said you were contemplating posting it here because you weren’t getting the response you wanted.  Thats unreasonable behavior. 
    Dude, I did not specifically say I was contemplating on releasing it. I have the post saved, do you? Stop making things up!!!

    You obviously do not care about the singles and that is totally OK. You keep coming back to these threads to troll those that do care. Your behavior is so reasonable!!!
     I don’t have your post saved.  But then again I’m not preparing a court case against the ten club. 

     Maybe the fact that the ten club deleted it might be a clue to you that your behavior was out of line. 

    again, i've seen much less "out of line" posts removed. that's not the right barometer. 
    Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall




  • what are we waiting of those? some vinyl still to sent us?
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    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
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  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 15,950
    on2legs said:
    JB16057 said:
    on2legs said:
    JB16057 said:
    on2legs said:
    on2legs said:
    on2legs said:
    They have treated their fans like garbage. Not sure if it’s legal to take money for goods that were not delivered , any lawyers on here? Is there fines for lieing to consumers and not providing goods that were paid for 3 years ago? What is our options?

    tenclub, an update would go along way. Interested in communicating anything with the people?
    https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/267256/2016-ten-club-single-legal-action#latest

    Proof that at least two people can have the same ridiculous idea. 
    I understand your whole point being on this forum is to stick up to the tenclub in every instance, for whatever reason --

    -- but what is ridiculous here from that posters POV? 

    What is ridiculous is Tim Bearmans ( @Rubysdad ) response to the AG (when a poster contacted an AG) with "we never promised a delivery date and making vinyl takes time" or whatever he used as a reason. 

    ... It's been a couple of years now. Lol. Seems a lot of other vinyl has been pressed and delivered. Both from the PJ camp and other artists.

    You haven’t paid attention.  I’ve said many times that this is poor customer service.  

    I’ve just be very clear in saying that some people are making a ridiculous mountain out of a mole hill.  There is one person in particular who has suggested hiring an attorney to sue, actually complained to the Attorney General of the state of Washington and also threatened to release personal email addresses for ten club employees as a way to retaliate. Way over the top behavior and worthy of scrutiny. 
    they didn't actually threaten to release personal information. this information is readily available online. they actually said "i was going to post it here, but decided against it" or something along those lines. i saw the exact post. i saw nothing of a threat whatsoever, even if the mods saw it differently. 
    The mods deleted the post. They saw it for exactly what it was.  A threat of retaliation.  

    You’re seriously defending someone who suggested doing that over a record?
    Releasing an email address that anyone/everyone can find doing a google search is not a threat of retaliation. Not only can you find it on the internet, it was the email address that he replied back to the AG with. All of that information is public information.

    In Tim's response to the AG, he called us customers. Have you ever asked to speak to a manager? Do you think it does any good to speak to a manager instead of someone who just answers emails with canned responses like the others at the 10c? Tim is the manager on 10c and this falls on him. I don't know if Tim is causing the delays but I do know that he can instruct the company that he manages to give us an update with real information. The last official update we received was over 6 months ago. I'd say that amount of time justifies an official update.

    Do you really think that is an unreasonable request?
    Dude.  You specifically said that you got Tim’s email from the paperwork sent to you by the AG.  And you specifically said you were contemplating posting it here because you weren’t getting the response you wanted.  Thats unreasonable behavior. 
    Dude, I did not specifically say I was contemplating on releasing it. I have the post saved, do you? Stop making things up!!!

    You obviously do not care about the singles and that is totally OK. You keep coming back to these threads to troll those that do care. Your behavior is so reasonable!!!
     I don’t have your post saved.  But then again I’m not preparing a court case against the ten club. 

     Maybe the fact that the ten club deleted it might be a clue to you that your behavior was out of line. 

    again, i've seen much less "out of line" posts removed. that's not the right barometer. 
    Let me guess... the much less “out of line” posts that were removed were yours? 😉
    1996: Randall's Island 2  1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2  2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel  2005: Atlantic City 1  2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 (#25) | Newark (EV)  2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4  2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2  2011: Toronto 1  2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2015: Central Park  2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD)  2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF)  2020: MSG | Asbury Park  2021: Asbury Park  2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville  2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2025: Raleigh


  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,449
    on2legs said:
    on2legs said:
    JB16057 said:
    on2legs said:
    JB16057 said:
    on2legs said:
    on2legs said:
    on2legs said:
    They have treated their fans like garbage. Not sure if it’s legal to take money for goods that were not delivered , any lawyers on here? Is there fines for lieing to consumers and not providing goods that were paid for 3 years ago? What is our options?

    tenclub, an update would go along way. Interested in communicating anything with the people?
    https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/267256/2016-ten-club-single-legal-action#latest

    Proof that at least two people can have the same ridiculous idea. 
    I understand your whole point being on this forum is to stick up to the tenclub in every instance, for whatever reason --

    -- but what is ridiculous here from that posters POV? 

    What is ridiculous is Tim Bearmans ( @Rubysdad ) response to the AG (when a poster contacted an AG) with "we never promised a delivery date and making vinyl takes time" or whatever he used as a reason. 

    ... It's been a couple of years now. Lol. Seems a lot of other vinyl has been pressed and delivered. Both from the PJ camp and other artists.

    You haven’t paid attention.  I’ve said many times that this is poor customer service.  

    I’ve just be very clear in saying that some people are making a ridiculous mountain out of a mole hill.  There is one person in particular who has suggested hiring an attorney to sue, actually complained to the Attorney General of the state of Washington and also threatened to release personal email addresses for ten club employees as a way to retaliate. Way over the top behavior and worthy of scrutiny. 
    they didn't actually threaten to release personal information. this information is readily available online. they actually said "i was going to post it here, but decided against it" or something along those lines. i saw the exact post. i saw nothing of a threat whatsoever, even if the mods saw it differently. 
    The mods deleted the post. They saw it for exactly what it was.  A threat of retaliation.  

    You’re seriously defending someone who suggested doing that over a record?
    Releasing an email address that anyone/everyone can find doing a google search is not a threat of retaliation. Not only can you find it on the internet, it was the email address that he replied back to the AG with. All of that information is public information.

    In Tim's response to the AG, he called us customers. Have you ever asked to speak to a manager? Do you think it does any good to speak to a manager instead of someone who just answers emails with canned responses like the others at the 10c? Tim is the manager on 10c and this falls on him. I don't know if Tim is causing the delays but I do know that he can instruct the company that he manages to give us an update with real information. The last official update we received was over 6 months ago. I'd say that amount of time justifies an official update.

    Do you really think that is an unreasonable request?
    Dude.  You specifically said that you got Tim’s email from the paperwork sent to you by the AG.  And you specifically said you were contemplating posting it here because you weren’t getting the response you wanted.  Thats unreasonable behavior. 
    Dude, I did not specifically say I was contemplating on releasing it. I have the post saved, do you? Stop making things up!!!

    You obviously do not care about the singles and that is totally OK. You keep coming back to these threads to troll those that do care. Your behavior is so reasonable!!!
     I don’t have your post saved.  But then again I’m not preparing a court case against the ten club. 

     Maybe the fact that the ten club deleted it might be a clue to you that your behavior was out of line. 

    again, i've seen much less "out of line" posts removed. that's not the right barometer. 
    Let me guess... the much less “out of line” posts that were removed were yours? 😉
    nope
    Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall




  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,449
    what are we waiting of those? some vinyl still to sent us?
    two vinyls and not sure anymore how many deep mags. 2? 3?
    Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall




  • JB16057
    JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    on2legs said:
    Polite message asking for update
    Not so polite message asking for update
    Polite mail asking not so polite people to be polite
    Not so polite mail stating if you do not accept impolite message you don't care about this subject
    Not so polite response stating that is fucking ridiculous
    More impolite messages back and forth
    Thread locked
    Wait six months
    Repeat
    That’s pretty accurate.  
    We can all agree on this!

  • on2legs said:
    JB16057 said:
    on2legs said:
    JB16057 said:
    on2legs said:
    on2legs said:
    on2legs said:
    They have treated their fans like garbage. Not sure if it’s legal to take money for goods that were not delivered , any lawyers on here? Is there fines for lieing to consumers and not providing goods that were paid for 3 years ago? What is our options?

    tenclub, an update would go along way. Interested in communicating anything with the people?
    https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/267256/2016-ten-club-single-legal-action#latest

    Proof that at least two people can have the same ridiculous idea. 
    I understand your whole point being on this forum is to stick up to the tenclub in every instance, for whatever reason --

    -- but what is ridiculous here from that posters POV? 

    What is ridiculous is Tim Bearmans ( @Rubysdad ) response to the AG (when a poster contacted an AG) with "we never promised a delivery date and making vinyl takes time" or whatever he used as a reason. 

    ... It's been a couple of years now. Lol. Seems a lot of other vinyl has been pressed and delivered. Both from the PJ camp and other artists.

    You haven’t paid attention.  I’ve said many times that this is poor customer service.  

    I’ve just be very clear in saying that some people are making a ridiculous mountain out of a mole hill.  There is one person in particular who has suggested hiring an attorney to sue, actually complained to the Attorney General of the state of Washington and also threatened to release personal email addresses for ten club employees as a way to retaliate. Way over the top behavior and worthy of scrutiny. 
    they didn't actually threaten to release personal information. this information is readily available online. they actually said "i was going to post it here, but decided against it" or something along those lines. i saw the exact post. i saw nothing of a threat whatsoever, even if the mods saw it differently. 
    The mods deleted the post. They saw it for exactly what it was.  A threat of retaliation.  

    You’re seriously defending someone who suggested doing that over a record?
    Releasing an email address that anyone/everyone can find doing a google search is not a threat of retaliation. Not only can you find it on the internet, it was the email address that he replied back to the AG with. All of that information is public information.

    In Tim's response to the AG, he called us customers. Have you ever asked to speak to a manager? Do you think it does any good to speak to a manager instead of someone who just answers emails with canned responses like the others at the 10c? Tim is the manager on 10c and this falls on him. I don't know if Tim is causing the delays but I do know that he can instruct the company that he manages to give us an update with real information. The last official update we received was over 6 months ago. I'd say that amount of time justifies an official update.

    Do you really think that is an unreasonable request?
    Dude.  You specifically said that you got Tim’s email from the paperwork sent to you by the AG.  And you specifically said you were contemplating posting it here because you weren’t getting the response you wanted.  Thats unreasonable behavior. 
    Dude, I did not specifically say I was contemplating on releasing it. I have the post saved, do you? Stop making things up!!!

    You obviously do not care about the singles and that is totally OK. You keep coming back to these threads to troll those that do care. Your behavior is so reasonable!!!
     I don’t have your post saved.  But then again I’m not preparing a court case against the ten club. 

     Maybe the fact that the ten club deleted it might be a clue to you that your behavior was out of line. 

    again, i've seen much less "out of line" posts removed. that's not the right barometer. 
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    on2legs said:
    JB16057 said:
    on2legs said:
    JB16057 said:
    on2legs said:
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    They have treated their fans like garbage. Not sure if it’s legal to take money for goods that were not delivered , any lawyers on here? Is there fines for lieing to consumers and not providing goods that were paid for 3 years ago? What is our options?

    tenclub, an update would go along way. Interested in communicating anything with the people?
    https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/267256/2016-ten-club-single-legal-action#latest

    Proof that at least two people can have the same ridiculous idea. 
    I understand your whole point being on this forum is to stick up to the tenclub in every instance, for whatever reason --

    -- but what is ridiculous here from that posters POV? 

    What is ridiculous is Tim Bearmans ( @Rubysdad ) response to the AG (when a poster contacted an AG) with "we never promised a delivery date and making vinyl takes time" or whatever he used as a reason. 

    ... It's been a couple of years now. Lol. Seems a lot of other vinyl has been pressed and delivered. Both from the PJ camp and other artists.

    You haven’t paid attention.  I’ve said many times that this is poor customer service.  

    I’ve just be very clear in saying that some people are making a ridiculous mountain out of a mole hill.  There is one person in particular who has suggested hiring an attorney to sue, actually complained to the Attorney General of the state of Washington and also threatened to release personal email addresses for ten club employees as a way to retaliate. Way over the top behavior and worthy of scrutiny. 
    they didn't actually threaten to release personal information. this information is readily available online. they actually said "i was going to post it here, but decided against it" or something along those lines. i saw the exact post. i saw nothing of a threat whatsoever, even if the mods saw it differently. 
    The mods deleted the post. They saw it for exactly what it was.  A threat of retaliation.  

    You’re seriously defending someone who suggested doing that over a record?
    Releasing an email address that anyone/everyone can find doing a google search is not a threat of retaliation. Not only can you find it on the internet, it was the email address that he replied back to the AG with. All of that information is public information.

    In Tim's response to the AG, he called us customers. Have you ever asked to speak to a manager? Do you think it does any good to speak to a manager instead of someone who just answers emails with canned responses like the others at the 10c? Tim is the manager on 10c and this falls on him. I don't know if Tim is causing the delays but I do know that he can instruct the company that he manages to give us an update with real information. The last official update we received was over 6 months ago. I'd say that amount of time justifies an official update.

    Do you really think that is an unreasonable request?
    Dude.  You specifically said that you got Tim’s email from the paperwork sent to you by the AG.  And you specifically said you were contemplating posting it here because you weren’t getting the response you wanted.  Thats unreasonable behavior. 
    Dude, I did not specifically say I was contemplating on releasing it. I have the post saved, do you? Stop making things up!!!

    You obviously do not care about the singles and that is totally OK. You keep coming back to these threads to troll those that do care. Your behavior is so reasonable!!!
     I don’t have your post saved.  But then again I’m not preparing a court case against the ten club. 

     Maybe the fact that the ten club deleted it might be a clue to you that your behavior was out of line. 

    again, i've seen much less "out of line" posts removed. that's not the right barometer. 
    It's pronounced "thermometer." 
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  • bone
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    edited October 2020
    Though I'm not obsessing over when these arrive the "it takes time" or any Covid excuses are nothing but just that... Excuses.  

    A mid-level Canadian artist I admire was able to write, recorded, press, personally sign and deliver a full album to his fans since the COVID pause.  These aren't delayed by a manufacturer due to COVID.  The club just either doesn't give a shit about getting them out or has already spent the money elsewhere and can't generate the funds to manufacture them.  That's what's most likely going on here. 
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  • darthvedder
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    bone said:
    The club just either doesn't give a shit about getting them out or has already spent the money elsewhere and can't generate the funds to manufacture them.  That's what's most likely going on here. 
    You might be on to something. That might be why they just sold 50 autographed posters at a grand each.