So how about those fan club singles *edit* THAT I FINALLY GOT!!
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This is probably the first time Ive ever thought there is no point in signing up for another year. Like most if you in the past 4 years and $140 later Ive got very little to show for those years. I got better tickets via the venue, Vault is available to all. I dont have time to sit around and wait on psst messages.0
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Maybe whoever wins and gets to hang with Eddie and Jeff can ask them whats happened to the fanclub singles. LOL0
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Clapper said:I'm all for getting what you paid for and make no mistake, these singles are owed and the time that has elapsed since they were due is nothing short of cartoonish at this point. But...some of the time, effort and to be honest, creepy levels of intensity that some of you have brought to this debate is bananas. A little food for thought: Do you truly believe that the singles wont be forthcoming at some point? Assuming they are definitely coming, is when they show up something that is going to make a big difference in your life one way or the other? What is all of that time and (negative) energy worth? Fan club singles can't be a good ROI there.Post edited by THEBIBLEISTEN on0
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THEBIBLEISTEN said:Clapper said:I'm all for getting what you paid for and make no mistake, these singles are owed and the time that has elapsed since they were due is nothing short of cartoonish at this point. But...some of the time, effort and to be honest, creepy levels of intensity that some of you have brought to this debate is bananas. A little food for thought: Do you truly believe that the singles wont be forthcoming at some point? Assuming they are definitely coming, is when they show up something that is going to make a big difference in your life one way or the other? What is all of that time and (negative) energy worth? Fan club singles can't be a good ROI there.0
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on2legs said:JB16057 said:on2legs said:HughFreakingDillon said:on2legs said:Spiritual_Chaos said:on2legs said:THEBIBLEISTEN said:They have treated their fans like garbage. Not sure if it’s legal to take money for goods that were not delivered , any lawyers on here? Is there fines for lieing to consumers and not providing goods that were paid for 3 years ago? What is our options?
tenclub, an update would go along way. Interested in communicating anything with the people?Proof that at least two people can have the same ridiculous idea.
-- but what is ridiculous here from that posters POV?
What is ridiculous is Tim Bearmans ( @Rubysdad ) response to the AG (when a poster contacted an AG) with "we never promised a delivery date and making vinyl takes time" or whatever he used as a reason.
... It's been a couple of years now. Lol. Seems a lot of other vinyl has been pressed and delivered. Both from the PJ camp and other artists.I’ve just be very clear in saying that some people are making a ridiculous mountain out of a mole hill. There is one person in particular who has suggested hiring an attorney to sue, actually complained to the Attorney General of the state of Washington and also threatened to release personal email addresses for ten club employees as a way to retaliate. Way over the top behavior and worthy of scrutiny.You’re seriously defending someone who suggested doing that over a record?Releasing an email address that anyone/everyone can find doing a google search is not a threat of retaliation. Not only can you find it on the internet, it was the email address that he replied back to the AG with. All of that information is public information.In Tim's response to the AG, he called us customers. Have you ever asked to speak to a manager? Do you think it does any good to speak to a manager instead of someone who just answers emails with canned responses like the others at the 10c? Tim is the manager on 10c and this falls on him. I don't know if Tim is causing the delays but I do know that he can instruct the company that he manages to give us an update with real information. The last official update we received was over 6 months ago. I'd say that amount of time justifies an official update.Do you really think that is an unreasonable request?Dude, I did not specifically say I was contemplating on releasing it. I have the post saved, do you? Stop making things up!!!You obviously do not care about the singles and that is totally OK. You keep coming back to these threads to troll those that do care. Your behavior is so reasonable!!!0 -
JB16057 said:on2legs said:JB16057 said:on2legs said:HughFreakingDillon said:on2legs said:Spiritual_Chaos said:on2legs said:THEBIBLEISTEN said:They have treated their fans like garbage. Not sure if it’s legal to take money for goods that were not delivered , any lawyers on here? Is there fines for lieing to consumers and not providing goods that were paid for 3 years ago? What is our options?
tenclub, an update would go along way. Interested in communicating anything with the people?Proof that at least two people can have the same ridiculous idea.
-- but what is ridiculous here from that posters POV?
What is ridiculous is Tim Bearmans ( @Rubysdad ) response to the AG (when a poster contacted an AG) with "we never promised a delivery date and making vinyl takes time" or whatever he used as a reason.
... It's been a couple of years now. Lol. Seems a lot of other vinyl has been pressed and delivered. Both from the PJ camp and other artists.I’ve just be very clear in saying that some people are making a ridiculous mountain out of a mole hill. There is one person in particular who has suggested hiring an attorney to sue, actually complained to the Attorney General of the state of Washington and also threatened to release personal email addresses for ten club employees as a way to retaliate. Way over the top behavior and worthy of scrutiny.You’re seriously defending someone who suggested doing that over a record?Releasing an email address that anyone/everyone can find doing a google search is not a threat of retaliation. Not only can you find it on the internet, it was the email address that he replied back to the AG with. All of that information is public information.In Tim's response to the AG, he called us customers. Have you ever asked to speak to a manager? Do you think it does any good to speak to a manager instead of someone who just answers emails with canned responses like the others at the 10c? Tim is the manager on 10c and this falls on him. I don't know if Tim is causing the delays but I do know that he can instruct the company that he manages to give us an update with real information. The last official update we received was over 6 months ago. I'd say that amount of time justifies an official update.Do you really think that is an unreasonable request?Dude, I did not specifically say I was contemplating on releasing it. I have the post saved, do you? Stop making things up!!!You obviously do not care about the singles and that is totally OK. You keep coming back to these threads to troll those that do care. Your behavior is so reasonable!!!"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
JB16057 said:on2legs said:JB16057 said:on2legs said:HughFreakingDillon said:on2legs said:Spiritual_Chaos said:on2legs said:THEBIBLEISTEN said:They have treated their fans like garbage. Not sure if it’s legal to take money for goods that were not delivered , any lawyers on here? Is there fines for lieing to consumers and not providing goods that were paid for 3 years ago? What is our options?
tenclub, an update would go along way. Interested in communicating anything with the people?Proof that at least two people can have the same ridiculous idea.
-- but what is ridiculous here from that posters POV?
What is ridiculous is Tim Bearmans ( @Rubysdad ) response to the AG (when a poster contacted an AG) with "we never promised a delivery date and making vinyl takes time" or whatever he used as a reason.
... It's been a couple of years now. Lol. Seems a lot of other vinyl has been pressed and delivered. Both from the PJ camp and other artists.I’ve just be very clear in saying that some people are making a ridiculous mountain out of a mole hill. There is one person in particular who has suggested hiring an attorney to sue, actually complained to the Attorney General of the state of Washington and also threatened to release personal email addresses for ten club employees as a way to retaliate. Way over the top behavior and worthy of scrutiny.You’re seriously defending someone who suggested doing that over a record?Releasing an email address that anyone/everyone can find doing a google search is not a threat of retaliation. Not only can you find it on the internet, it was the email address that he replied back to the AG with. All of that information is public information.In Tim's response to the AG, he called us customers. Have you ever asked to speak to a manager? Do you think it does any good to speak to a manager instead of someone who just answers emails with canned responses like the others at the 10c? Tim is the manager on 10c and this falls on him. I don't know if Tim is causing the delays but I do know that he can instruct the company that he manages to give us an update with real information. The last official update we received was over 6 months ago. I'd say that amount of time justifies an official update.Do you really think that is an unreasonable request?Dude, I did not specifically say I was contemplating on releasing it. I have the post saved, do you? Stop making things up!!!You obviously do not care about the singles and that is totally OK. You keep coming back to these threads to troll those that do care. Your behavior is so reasonable!!!Maybe the fact that the ten club deleted it might be a clue to you that your behavior was out of line.Post edited by on2legs on1996: Randall's Island 2 1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2 2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel 2005: Atlantic City 1 2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 (#25) | Newark (EV) 2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4 2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2 2011: Toronto 1 2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore 2015: Central Park 2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD) 2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF) 2020: MSG | Asbury Park 2021: Asbury Park 2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville 2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore 2025: Raleigh0 -
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joeembleton said:Polite message asking for update
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on2legs said:JB16057 said:on2legs said:JB16057 said:on2legs said:HughFreakingDillon said:on2legs said:Spiritual_Chaos said:on2legs said:THEBIBLEISTEN said:They have treated their fans like garbage. Not sure if it’s legal to take money for goods that were not delivered , any lawyers on here? Is there fines for lieing to consumers and not providing goods that were paid for 3 years ago? What is our options?
tenclub, an update would go along way. Interested in communicating anything with the people?Proof that at least two people can have the same ridiculous idea.
-- but what is ridiculous here from that posters POV?
What is ridiculous is Tim Bearmans ( @Rubysdad ) response to the AG (when a poster contacted an AG) with "we never promised a delivery date and making vinyl takes time" or whatever he used as a reason.
... It's been a couple of years now. Lol. Seems a lot of other vinyl has been pressed and delivered. Both from the PJ camp and other artists.I’ve just be very clear in saying that some people are making a ridiculous mountain out of a mole hill. There is one person in particular who has suggested hiring an attorney to sue, actually complained to the Attorney General of the state of Washington and also threatened to release personal email addresses for ten club employees as a way to retaliate. Way over the top behavior and worthy of scrutiny.You’re seriously defending someone who suggested doing that over a record?Releasing an email address that anyone/everyone can find doing a google search is not a threat of retaliation. Not only can you find it on the internet, it was the email address that he replied back to the AG with. All of that information is public information.In Tim's response to the AG, he called us customers. Have you ever asked to speak to a manager? Do you think it does any good to speak to a manager instead of someone who just answers emails with canned responses like the others at the 10c? Tim is the manager on 10c and this falls on him. I don't know if Tim is causing the delays but I do know that he can instruct the company that he manages to give us an update with real information. The last official update we received was over 6 months ago. I'd say that amount of time justifies an official update.Do you really think that is an unreasonable request?Dude, I did not specifically say I was contemplating on releasing it. I have the post saved, do you? Stop making things up!!!You obviously do not care about the singles and that is totally OK. You keep coming back to these threads to troll those that do care. Your behavior is so reasonable!!!Maybe the fact that the ten club deleted it might be a clue to you that your behavior was out of line.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
what are we waiting of those? some vinyl still to sent us?"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
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HughFreakingDillon said:on2legs said:JB16057 said:on2legs said:JB16057 said:on2legs said:HughFreakingDillon said:on2legs said:Spiritual_Chaos said:on2legs said:THEBIBLEISTEN said:They have treated their fans like garbage. Not sure if it’s legal to take money for goods that were not delivered , any lawyers on here? Is there fines for lieing to consumers and not providing goods that were paid for 3 years ago? What is our options?
tenclub, an update would go along way. Interested in communicating anything with the people?Proof that at least two people can have the same ridiculous idea.
-- but what is ridiculous here from that posters POV?
What is ridiculous is Tim Bearmans ( @Rubysdad ) response to the AG (when a poster contacted an AG) with "we never promised a delivery date and making vinyl takes time" or whatever he used as a reason.
... It's been a couple of years now. Lol. Seems a lot of other vinyl has been pressed and delivered. Both from the PJ camp and other artists.I’ve just be very clear in saying that some people are making a ridiculous mountain out of a mole hill. There is one person in particular who has suggested hiring an attorney to sue, actually complained to the Attorney General of the state of Washington and also threatened to release personal email addresses for ten club employees as a way to retaliate. Way over the top behavior and worthy of scrutiny.You’re seriously defending someone who suggested doing that over a record?Releasing an email address that anyone/everyone can find doing a google search is not a threat of retaliation. Not only can you find it on the internet, it was the email address that he replied back to the AG with. All of that information is public information.In Tim's response to the AG, he called us customers. Have you ever asked to speak to a manager? Do you think it does any good to speak to a manager instead of someone who just answers emails with canned responses like the others at the 10c? Tim is the manager on 10c and this falls on him. I don't know if Tim is causing the delays but I do know that he can instruct the company that he manages to give us an update with real information. The last official update we received was over 6 months ago. I'd say that amount of time justifies an official update.Do you really think that is an unreasonable request?Dude, I did not specifically say I was contemplating on releasing it. I have the post saved, do you? Stop making things up!!!You obviously do not care about the singles and that is totally OK. You keep coming back to these threads to troll those that do care. Your behavior is so reasonable!!!Maybe the fact that the ten club deleted it might be a clue to you that your behavior was out of line.1996: Randall's Island 2 1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2 2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel 2005: Atlantic City 1 2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 (#25) | Newark (EV) 2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4 2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2 2011: Toronto 1 2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore 2015: Central Park 2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD) 2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF) 2020: MSG | Asbury Park 2021: Asbury Park 2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville 2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore 2025: Raleigh0 -
on2legs said:HughFreakingDillon said:on2legs said:JB16057 said:on2legs said:JB16057 said:on2legs said:HughFreakingDillon said:on2legs said:Spiritual_Chaos said:on2legs said:THEBIBLEISTEN said:They have treated their fans like garbage. Not sure if it’s legal to take money for goods that were not delivered , any lawyers on here? Is there fines for lieing to consumers and not providing goods that were paid for 3 years ago? What is our options?
tenclub, an update would go along way. Interested in communicating anything with the people?Proof that at least two people can have the same ridiculous idea.
-- but what is ridiculous here from that posters POV?
What is ridiculous is Tim Bearmans ( @Rubysdad ) response to the AG (when a poster contacted an AG) with "we never promised a delivery date and making vinyl takes time" or whatever he used as a reason.
... It's been a couple of years now. Lol. Seems a lot of other vinyl has been pressed and delivered. Both from the PJ camp and other artists.I’ve just be very clear in saying that some people are making a ridiculous mountain out of a mole hill. There is one person in particular who has suggested hiring an attorney to sue, actually complained to the Attorney General of the state of Washington and also threatened to release personal email addresses for ten club employees as a way to retaliate. Way over the top behavior and worthy of scrutiny.You’re seriously defending someone who suggested doing that over a record?Releasing an email address that anyone/everyone can find doing a google search is not a threat of retaliation. Not only can you find it on the internet, it was the email address that he replied back to the AG with. All of that information is public information.In Tim's response to the AG, he called us customers. Have you ever asked to speak to a manager? Do you think it does any good to speak to a manager instead of someone who just answers emails with canned responses like the others at the 10c? Tim is the manager on 10c and this falls on him. I don't know if Tim is causing the delays but I do know that he can instruct the company that he manages to give us an update with real information. The last official update we received was over 6 months ago. I'd say that amount of time justifies an official update.Do you really think that is an unreasonable request?Dude, I did not specifically say I was contemplating on releasing it. I have the post saved, do you? Stop making things up!!!You obviously do not care about the singles and that is totally OK. You keep coming back to these threads to troll those that do care. Your behavior is so reasonable!!!Maybe the fact that the ten club deleted it might be a clue to you that your behavior was out of line.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
dimitrispearljam said:what are we waiting of those? some vinyl still to sent us?Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0
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on2legs said:joeembleton said:Polite message asking for update
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Polite mail asking not so polite people to be polite
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HughFreakingDillon said:on2legs said:JB16057 said:on2legs said:JB16057 said:on2legs said:HughFreakingDillon said:on2legs said:Spiritual_Chaos said:on2legs said:THEBIBLEISTEN said:They have treated their fans like garbage. Not sure if it’s legal to take money for goods that were not delivered , any lawyers on here? Is there fines for lieing to consumers and not providing goods that were paid for 3 years ago? What is our options?
tenclub, an update would go along way. Interested in communicating anything with the people?Proof that at least two people can have the same ridiculous idea.
-- but what is ridiculous here from that posters POV?
What is ridiculous is Tim Bearmans ( @Rubysdad ) response to the AG (when a poster contacted an AG) with "we never promised a delivery date and making vinyl takes time" or whatever he used as a reason.
... It's been a couple of years now. Lol. Seems a lot of other vinyl has been pressed and delivered. Both from the PJ camp and other artists.I’ve just be very clear in saying that some people are making a ridiculous mountain out of a mole hill. There is one person in particular who has suggested hiring an attorney to sue, actually complained to the Attorney General of the state of Washington and also threatened to release personal email addresses for ten club employees as a way to retaliate. Way over the top behavior and worthy of scrutiny.You’re seriously defending someone who suggested doing that over a record?Releasing an email address that anyone/everyone can find doing a google search is not a threat of retaliation. Not only can you find it on the internet, it was the email address that he replied back to the AG with. All of that information is public information.In Tim's response to the AG, he called us customers. Have you ever asked to speak to a manager? Do you think it does any good to speak to a manager instead of someone who just answers emails with canned responses like the others at the 10c? Tim is the manager on 10c and this falls on him. I don't know if Tim is causing the delays but I do know that he can instruct the company that he manages to give us an update with real information. The last official update we received was over 6 months ago. I'd say that amount of time justifies an official update.Do you really think that is an unreasonable request?Dude, I did not specifically say I was contemplating on releasing it. I have the post saved, do you? Stop making things up!!!You obviously do not care about the singles and that is totally OK. You keep coming back to these threads to troll those that do care. Your behavior is so reasonable!!!Maybe the fact that the ten club deleted it might be a clue to you that your behavior was out of line.
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Ledbetterman10 said:HughFreakingDillon said:on2legs said:JB16057 said:on2legs said:JB16057 said:on2legs said:HughFreakingDillon said:on2legs said:Spiritual_Chaos said:on2legs said:THEBIBLEISTEN said:They have treated their fans like garbage. Not sure if it’s legal to take money for goods that were not delivered , any lawyers on here? Is there fines for lieing to consumers and not providing goods that were paid for 3 years ago? What is our options?
tenclub, an update would go along way. Interested in communicating anything with the people?Proof that at least two people can have the same ridiculous idea.
-- but what is ridiculous here from that posters POV?
What is ridiculous is Tim Bearmans ( @Rubysdad ) response to the AG (when a poster contacted an AG) with "we never promised a delivery date and making vinyl takes time" or whatever he used as a reason.
... It's been a couple of years now. Lol. Seems a lot of other vinyl has been pressed and delivered. Both from the PJ camp and other artists.I’ve just be very clear in saying that some people are making a ridiculous mountain out of a mole hill. There is one person in particular who has suggested hiring an attorney to sue, actually complained to the Attorney General of the state of Washington and also threatened to release personal email addresses for ten club employees as a way to retaliate. Way over the top behavior and worthy of scrutiny.You’re seriously defending someone who suggested doing that over a record?Releasing an email address that anyone/everyone can find doing a google search is not a threat of retaliation. Not only can you find it on the internet, it was the email address that he replied back to the AG with. All of that information is public information.In Tim's response to the AG, he called us customers. Have you ever asked to speak to a manager? Do you think it does any good to speak to a manager instead of someone who just answers emails with canned responses like the others at the 10c? Tim is the manager on 10c and this falls on him. I don't know if Tim is causing the delays but I do know that he can instruct the company that he manages to give us an update with real information. The last official update we received was over 6 months ago. I'd say that amount of time justifies an official update.Do you really think that is an unreasonable request?Dude, I did not specifically say I was contemplating on releasing it. I have the post saved, do you? Stop making things up!!!You obviously do not care about the singles and that is totally OK. You keep coming back to these threads to troll those that do care. Your behavior is so reasonable!!!Maybe the fact that the ten club deleted it might be a clue to you that your behavior was out of line.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
Though I'm not obsessing over when these arrive the "it takes time" or any Covid excuses are nothing but just that... Excuses.
A mid-level Canadian artist I admire was able to write, recorded, press, personally sign and deliver a full album to his fans since the COVID pause. These aren't delayed by a manufacturer due to COVID. The club just either doesn't give a shit about getting them out or has already spent the money elsewhere and can't generate the funds to manufacture them. That's what's most likely going on here.Post edited by bone on1993-08-12 - Edmonton, AB, Convention Centre
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bone said:The club just either doesn't give a shit about getting them out or has already spent the money elsewhere and can't generate the funds to manufacture them. That's what's most likely going on here.
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