So how about those fan club singles *edit* THAT I FINALLY GOT!!

THEBIBLEISTEN said:

Clapper said:

I'm all for getting what you paid for and make no mistake, these singles are owed and the time that has elapsed since they were due is nothing short of cartoonish at this point. But...some of the time, effort and to be honest, creepy levels of intensity that some of you have brought to this debate is bananas.  A little food for thought:   Do you truly believe that the singles wont be forthcoming at some point? Assuming they are definitely coming, is when they show up something that is going to make a big difference in your life one way or the other?  What is all of that time and (negative) energy worth? Fan club singles can't be a good ROI there. 

No, I don’t believe they will , only for the fact they have had 3 years and nothing. It’s principal and this band is all about principal so now it’s time to show there’s 

on2legs said:

JB16057 said:

on2legs said:

JB16057 said:

on2legs said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

on2legs said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

on2legs said:

THEBIBLEISTEN said:

They have treated their fans like garbage. Not sure if it’s legal to take money for goods that were not delivered , any lawyers on here? Is there fines for lieing to consumers and not providing goods that were paid for 3 years ago? What is our options?

tenclub, an update would go along way. Interested in communicating anything with the people?

https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/267256/2016-ten-club-single-legal-action#latest

Proof that at least two people can have the same ridiculous idea. 

I understand your whole point being on this forum is to stick up to the tenclub in every instance, for whatever reason --

-- but what is ridiculous here from that posters POV? 

What is ridiculous is Tim Bearmans ( @Rubysdad ) response to the AG (when a poster contacted an AG) with "we never promised a delivery date and making vinyl takes time" or whatever he used as a reason. 

... It's been a couple of years now. Lol. Seems a lot of other vinyl has been pressed and delivered. Both from the PJ camp and other artists.

You haven’t paid attention.  I’ve said many times that this is poor customer service.  

I’ve just be very clear in saying that some people are making a ridiculous mountain out of a mole hill.  There is one person in particular who has suggested hiring an attorney to sue, actually complained to the Attorney General of the state of Washington and also threatened to release personal email addresses for ten club employees as a way to retaliate. Way over the top behavior and worthy of scrutiny. 

they didn't actually threaten to release personal information. this information is readily available online. they actually said "i was going to post it here, but decided against it" or something along those lines. i saw the exact post. i saw nothing of a threat whatsoever, even if the mods saw it differently. 

The mods deleted the post. They saw it for exactly what it was.  A threat of retaliation.  

You’re seriously defending someone who suggested doing that over a record?

Releasing an email address that anyone/everyone can find doing a google search is not a threat of retaliation. Not only can you find it on the internet, it was the email address that he replied back to the AG with. All of that information is public information.

In Tim's response to the AG, he called us customers. Have you ever asked to speak to a manager? Do you think it does any good to speak to a manager instead of someone who just answers emails with canned responses like the others at the 10c? Tim is the manager on 10c and this falls on him. I don't know if Tim is causing the delays but I do know that he can instruct the company that he manages to give us an update with real information. The last official update we received was over 6 months ago. I'd say that amount of time justifies an official update.

Do you really think that is an unreasonable request?

Dude.  You specifically said that you got Tim’s email from the paperwork sent to you by the AG.  And you specifically said you were contemplating posting it here because you weren’t getting the response you wanted.  Thats unreasonable behavior. 

Dude, I did not specifically say I was contemplating on releasing it. I have the post saved, do you? Stop making things up!!!

You obviously do not care about the singles and that is totally OK. You keep coming back to these threads to troll those that do care. Your behavior is so reasonable!!!

 I don’t have your post saved.  But then again I’m not preparing a court case against the ten club. 

 Maybe the fact that the ten club deleted it might be a clue to you that your behavior was out of line. 

HughFreakingDillon said:

on2legs said:

JB16057 said:

on2legs said:

JB16057 said:

on2legs said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

on2legs said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

on2legs said:

THEBIBLEISTEN said:

They have treated their fans like garbage. Not sure if it’s legal to take money for goods that were not delivered , any lawyers on here? Is there fines for lieing to consumers and not providing goods that were paid for 3 years ago? What is our options?

tenclub, an update would go along way. Interested in communicating anything with the people?

https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/267256/2016-ten-club-single-legal-action#latest

Proof that at least two people can have the same ridiculous idea. 

I understand your whole point being on this forum is to stick up to the tenclub in every instance, for whatever reason --

-- but what is ridiculous here from that posters POV? 

What is ridiculous is Tim Bearmans ( @Rubysdad ) response to the AG (when a poster contacted an AG) with "we never promised a delivery date and making vinyl takes time" or whatever he used as a reason. 

... It's been a couple of years now. Lol. Seems a lot of other vinyl has been pressed and delivered. Both from the PJ camp and other artists.

You haven’t paid attention.  I’ve said many times that this is poor customer service.  

I’ve just be very clear in saying that some people are making a ridiculous mountain out of a mole hill.  There is one person in particular who has suggested hiring an attorney to sue, actually complained to the Attorney General of the state of Washington and also threatened to release personal email addresses for ten club employees as a way to retaliate. Way over the top behavior and worthy of scrutiny. 

they didn't actually threaten to release personal information. this information is readily available online. they actually said "i was going to post it here, but decided against it" or something along those lines. i saw the exact post. i saw nothing of a threat whatsoever, even if the mods saw it differently. 

The mods deleted the post. They saw it for exactly what it was.  A threat of retaliation.  

You’re seriously defending someone who suggested doing that over a record?

Releasing an email address that anyone/everyone can find doing a google search is not a threat of retaliation. Not only can you find it on the internet, it was the email address that he replied back to the AG with. All of that information is public information.

In Tim's response to the AG, he called us customers. Have you ever asked to speak to a manager? Do you think it does any good to speak to a manager instead of someone who just answers emails with canned responses like the others at the 10c? Tim is the manager on 10c and this falls on him. I don't know if Tim is causing the delays but I do know that he can instruct the company that he manages to give us an update with real information. The last official update we received was over 6 months ago. I'd say that amount of time justifies an official update.

Do you really think that is an unreasonable request?

Dude.  You specifically said that you got Tim’s email from the paperwork sent to you by the AG.  And you specifically said you were contemplating posting it here because you weren’t getting the response you wanted.  Thats unreasonable behavior. 

Dude, I did not specifically say I was contemplating on releasing it. I have the post saved, do you? Stop making things up!!!

You obviously do not care about the singles and that is totally OK. You keep coming back to these threads to troll those that do care. Your behavior is so reasonable!!!

 I don’t have your post saved.  But then again I’m not preparing a court case against the ten club. 

 Maybe the fact that the ten club deleted it might be a clue to you that your behavior was out of line. 

again, i've seen much less "out of line" posts removed. that's not the right barometer. 

dimitrispearljam said:

what are we waiting of those? some vinyl still to sent us?

HughFreakingDillon said:

on2legs said:

JB16057 said:

on2legs said:

JB16057 said:

on2legs said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

on2legs said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

on2legs said:

THEBIBLEISTEN said:

They have treated their fans like garbage. Not sure if it’s legal to take money for goods that were not delivered , any lawyers on here? Is there fines for lieing to consumers and not providing goods that were paid for 3 years ago? What is our options?

tenclub, an update would go along way. Interested in communicating anything with the people?

https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/267256/2016-ten-club-single-legal-action#latest

Proof that at least two people can have the same ridiculous idea. 

I understand your whole point being on this forum is to stick up to the tenclub in every instance, for whatever reason --

-- but what is ridiculous here from that posters POV? 

What is ridiculous is Tim Bearmans ( @Rubysdad ) response to the AG (when a poster contacted an AG) with "we never promised a delivery date and making vinyl takes time" or whatever he used as a reason. 

... It's been a couple of years now. Lol. Seems a lot of other vinyl has been pressed and delivered. Both from the PJ camp and other artists.

You haven’t paid attention.  I’ve said many times that this is poor customer service.  

I’ve just be very clear in saying that some people are making a ridiculous mountain out of a mole hill.  There is one person in particular who has suggested hiring an attorney to sue, actually complained to the Attorney General of the state of Washington and also threatened to release personal email addresses for ten club employees as a way to retaliate. Way over the top behavior and worthy of scrutiny. 

they didn't actually threaten to release personal information. this information is readily available online. they actually said "i was going to post it here, but decided against it" or something along those lines. i saw the exact post. i saw nothing of a threat whatsoever, even if the mods saw it differently. 

The mods deleted the post. They saw it for exactly what it was.  A threat of retaliation.  

You’re seriously defending someone who suggested doing that over a record?

Releasing an email address that anyone/everyone can find doing a google search is not a threat of retaliation. Not only can you find it on the internet, it was the email address that he replied back to the AG with. All of that information is public information.

In Tim's response to the AG, he called us customers. Have you ever asked to speak to a manager? Do you think it does any good to speak to a manager instead of someone who just answers emails with canned responses like the others at the 10c? Tim is the manager on 10c and this falls on him. I don't know if Tim is causing the delays but I do know that he can instruct the company that he manages to give us an update with real information. The last official update we received was over 6 months ago. I'd say that amount of time justifies an official update.

Do you really think that is an unreasonable request?

Dude.  You specifically said that you got Tim’s email from the paperwork sent to you by the AG.  And you specifically said you were contemplating posting it here because you weren’t getting the response you wanted.  Thats unreasonable behavior. 

Dude, I did not specifically say I was contemplating on releasing it. I have the post saved, do you? Stop making things up!!!

You obviously do not care about the singles and that is totally OK. You keep coming back to these threads to troll those that do care. Your behavior is so reasonable!!!

 I don’t have your post saved.  But then again I’m not preparing a court case against the ten club. 

 Maybe the fact that the ten club deleted it might be a clue to you that your behavior was out of line. 

again, i've seen much less "out of line" posts removed. that's not the right barometer. 

bone said:

The club just either doesn't give a shit about getting them out or has already spent the money elsewhere and can't generate the funds to manufacture them.  That's what's most likely going on here.