New York authorities halt wedding expected to bring in 10,000 guests amid pandemic

josevolution said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

josevolution said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

josevolution said:

Meltdown99 said:

josevolution said:

https://apple.news/AAyH-VAxHS_eI7uHkDp2OTQ
Dangerous & in humane i hope this country will learn from this dark episode of voting for a total dirt bag narcissist pig & if you’re still thinking of sitting this one out I think that’s a giant mistake we’re heade for 300k deaths with no stopping in sight! 

How many deaths can be attributed to your shitty health care system?  How many people with no health coverage or inadequate coverage waited too late to seek help?  Blaming everything on Trump or any politician is kind of a simplistic way of looking at things...and the democrats care very little about poor people's health, just like the republicans don't care...because if any of them did then you'd have universal health care.  You guys may have the latest and greatest hospitals but I would never surrender my universal coverage for YOUR greedy system that only puts profits ahead of people...

ACÁ was a start it’s wasn’t perfect ! In comes this administration wants to just gut it with no replacement yes both sides have missed the boat but to not blame Covidiot is blind just by him stating from the beginning that masks save lives it could of saved thousands of lives! 

It's 2020 now. You had a long time to stick your head out of the sand (the UK got it's system implemented in the 40s I believe, Sweden in the 1900s), and follow the rest of the developed world with humane health care before this crisis.

And that doesn't come from a Russian troll, paying 50 dollars a year to a rockband "who was famous in the 90s" message board engaging in the most cost ineffective con in history trying to undermine the US election . It comes from a Swede looking at it objectively. From a facemask-"free" country that had to scramble to find ventilators that had been thrown out in the name of effectiveness and Thatcher-esque "new public management" should be noted though. So what do we know about healthcare.

(Sweden's) Public health care was developed during the 19th century. The county councils were formed in 1862 and were given the overall responsibility for health care. The connection between increasing democratic influence, growing public administration and society's responsibility for the weak is clear.

I immigrated here in 1971 not by choice, this country will never go for universal healthcare they just won’t lives can still be saved by S.D. & wearing a mask simple..How’s Sweden trending with C19 is the curve flattened yet?

Where are you from originally, something tells me Chile? 

The curve is raising in Sweden again. Mostly among the young so far. But that has nothing to do with the health care system.

The Swedish COVID-19 Response Is a Disaster. It Shouldn’t Be a Model for the Rest of the World

https://time.com/5899432/sweden-coronovirus-disaster/

Yes Chilean, I’m hoping to retire there just turned 60 last month they have a healthcare program but still got hit with C19 as just about every other country in the world..

Spiritual_Chaos said:

josevolution said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

josevolution said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

josevolution said:

Meltdown99 said:

josevolution said:

https://apple.news/AAyH-VAxHS_eI7uHkDp2OTQ
Dangerous & in humane i hope this country will learn from this dark episode of voting for a total dirt bag narcissist pig & if you’re still thinking of sitting this one out I think that’s a giant mistake we’re heade for 300k deaths with no stopping in sight! 

How many deaths can be attributed to your shitty health care system?  How many people with no health coverage or inadequate coverage waited too late to seek help?  Blaming everything on Trump or any politician is kind of a simplistic way of looking at things...and the democrats care very little about poor people's health, just like the republicans don't care...because if any of them did then you'd have universal health care.  You guys may have the latest and greatest hospitals but I would never surrender my universal coverage for YOUR greedy system that only puts profits ahead of people...

ACÁ was a start it’s wasn’t perfect ! In comes this administration wants to just gut it with no replacement yes both sides have missed the boat but to not blame Covidiot is blind just by him stating from the beginning that masks save lives it could of saved thousands of lives! 

It's 2020 now. You had a long time to stick your head out of the sand (the UK got it's system implemented in the 40s I believe, Sweden in the 1900s), and follow the rest of the developed world with humane health care before this crisis.

And that doesn't come from a Russian troll, paying 50 dollars a year to a rockband "who was famous in the 90s" message board engaging in the most cost ineffective con in history trying to undermine the US election . It comes from a Swede looking at it objectively. From a facemask-"free" country that had to scramble to find ventilators that had been thrown out in the name of effectiveness and Thatcher-esque "new public management" should be noted though. So what do we know about healthcare.

(Sweden's) Public health care was developed during the 19th century. The county councils were formed in 1862 and were given the overall responsibility for health care. The connection between increasing democratic influence, growing public administration and society's responsibility for the weak is clear.

I immigrated here in 1971 not by choice, this country will never go for universal healthcare they just won’t lives can still be saved by S.D. & wearing a mask simple..How’s Sweden trending with C19 is the curve flattened yet?

Where are you from originally, something tells me Chile? 

The curve is raising in Sweden again. Mostly among the young so far. But that has nothing to do with the health care system.

The Swedish COVID-19 Response Is a Disaster. It Shouldn’t Be a Model for the Rest of the World

https://time.com/5899432/sweden-coronovirus-disaster/

Yes Chilean, I’m hoping to retire there just turned 60 last month they have a healthcare program but still got hit with C19 as just about every other country in the world..

You never considered Sweden, if you left in some capacity because of the coup?

In 1972, Swedish ambassador Harald Edelstam arrived to Chile to take up his new post. On 11 September 1973, the government of President Allende suffered a coup d'état by General Augusto Pinochet who was backed by the government of the United States. President Allende was declared to have committed suicide during the coup and General Pinochet took over the government and became the new President of the country. Immediately, President Pinochet began arresting, torturing and executing followers of President Allende. During this time, thousands of Chileans sought refuge in mainly European and Latin American embassies in the Chilean capital.[8] Under Ambassador Edelstam, Sweden opened its doors to asylee seekers. More than 500 Chileans, 54 Uruguayans and some Cubans received refugee in the Swedish embassy.[9] By the end of Pinochet's presidency, more than 40,000 Chileans immigrated to Sweden as political asylees.[10] In December 1973, ambassador Edlestam was declared persona non grata by the Chilean government. When Edlestam was deported from Chile, Swedish Prime Minister Olof Palme declared that there would not be a Swedish ambassador in Chile until democracy was restored in the country, which did not happen until 1990.[7]

Spiritual_Chaos said:

dignin said:

Sweden is moving away from its no-lockdown strategy and preparing strict new rules amid rising coronavirus cases

Sweden's health officials are set to unveil strict new coronavirus rules for local regions to impose.

The country opted against lockdown measures in response to the first wave of the pandemic.

However, growing case numbers in areas like the cities of Stockholm and Uppsala have prompted a rethink.

Authorities in the worst-affected areas are set to have the power to strongly recommend people to avoid public transport, busy public places, and contact with the vulnerable and elderly.


https://www.businessinsider.com/sweden-shifts-away-no-lockdown-strategy-amid-growing-case-numbers-2020-10

Headline seems a bit misleading based on the article.

The new thing is that authority has been given to local regions to decide depending on the situation in their area - instead of rules being decided nationally at it has been so far. With the bigger cities being struck so much harder than e.g. smaller cities in the north etc.

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gimmesometruth27 said:

on a personal note, i saw my doc today. i let him know that i have been having daytime fatigue/malaise/low energy for the last few months. he said this could be due to lingering effects from the rona. i had a couple of negative tests over the last 3 months and have never had any other symptoms. i had an antibody test done today just to check to see if i ended up really having it. waiting to see if that shows anything. 

Good man for getting it checked out!  Hopefully the test will continue to run negative.  Could be you have fatigue from the stress of living in the shadow of the Orange National Nightmare.  Keep us posted!

thanks dude. got my results just now. negative for covid antibodies, so i have not gotten it up until this point. 

as for the fatigue, i have not really been exercising as much the last several months, so doc thinks that may be playing a role. he wants to check my thyroid and i suggested checking my testosterone, so get to do that on Monday.

it could be stress from work. it is the 4th quarter and i am one of only 15 reps in the country in a position to hit my quota so i have been pushing really hard for that. maybe the fatigue will go away at the end of the year. or maybe it will go away when we do not have to hear about the constant embarrassment coming from the west wing on a daily basis.

Hey man, glad to hear you tested negative for COVID!

I have chronic fatigue due to having had Epstein Barr virus in the 80's.  It never really goes away, so I'm always checking out ways to boost my immune system.  One thing I just read this morning says that drinking fresh celery juice helps.  The book is called Medical Medium Celery Juice, by Anthony William.  I am always skeptical about such claims but I figure, what the heck, I have a juicer and it just celery, so I'll give it a try.

Meanwhile, I hope your energy improves.  And, yes, if things go well in November, I'm guessing we'll all feel much better! 

i will definitely check that out. i wonder how a calorie negative food can be helpful but there has got to be a way. i am just happy i have not had the rona. i can deal with this fatigue if i stay active. let me know how the celery juice works out.