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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    mace1229 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Parks just shut down in my town again due to an uptick in covid.  
    And that makes no sense...people can cram into Costco or Wal Mart...but can't use the parks?
    parks don't sell necessities of life. at least none of the ones close to me do. 
    As already pointed out, I also felt as if there was a lot of bending in the rules as to what stores stayed open.
    But even then, be outside and staying active is really a necessity. More of a necessity than the local liquor stores that stayed open while parks closed and roped off. Having people locked up inside isn't good for physical or mental health. Parks should stay open with social distancing requirements. 
    actually, both are true. when my premier first announced all liquor stores would stay open, i couldn't believe it. but then he explained that they can't shut out those who have addictions. so that also goes to mental health. 

    you can go for a walk or a run without needing a park to stay open. our playgrounds were closed, and it made sense at the time. they didn't know how long the virus could live on metal surfaces, and with kids and their known difficulties with social norms (covering a sneeze, etc), that made sense. 
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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,829
    mace1229 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Parks just shut down in my town again due to an uptick in covid.  
    And that makes no sense...people can cram into Costco or Wal Mart...but can't use the parks?
    parks don't sell necessities of life. at least none of the ones close to me do. 
    As already pointed out, I also felt as if there was a lot of bending in the rules as to what stores stayed open.
    But even then, be outside and staying active is really a necessity. More of a necessity than the local liquor stores that stayed open while parks closed and roped off. Having people locked up inside isn't good for physical or mental health. Parks should stay open with social distancing requirements. 
    actually, both are true. when my premier first announced all liquor stores would stay open, i couldn't believe it. but then he explained that they can't shut out those who have addictions. so that also goes to mental health. 

    you can go for a walk or a run without needing a park to stay open. our playgrounds were closed, and it made sense at the time. they didn't know how long the virus could live on metal surfaces, and with kids and their known difficulties with social norms (covering a sneeze, etc), that made sense. 
    I've heard that argument with the alcoholics. I've have mixed feelings, if the spikes are so bad we can;t safely go to many stores, there should be a better way to sell alcohol than a crowded small store. 
    Most parks I know of include large open fields, enough for 3 or 4 soccer fields. I could see closing playground equipment, but to close big fields seems pointless. Not everyone lives in a quiet street they feel safe letting their kids run around or ride bikes  or walk their pets. 
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Parks just shut down in my town again due to an uptick in covid.  
    And that makes no sense...people can cram into Costco or Wal Mart...but can't use the parks?
    parks don't sell necessities of life. at least none of the ones close to me do. 
    As already pointed out, I also felt as if there was a lot of bending in the rules as to what stores stayed open.
    But even then, be outside and staying active is really a necessity. More of a necessity than the local liquor stores that stayed open while parks closed and roped off. Having people locked up inside isn't good for physical or mental health. Parks should stay open with social distancing requirements. 
    actually, both are true. when my premier first announced all liquor stores would stay open, i couldn't believe it. but then he explained that they can't shut out those who have addictions. so that also goes to mental health. 

    you can go for a walk or a run without needing a park to stay open. our playgrounds were closed, and it made sense at the time. they didn't know how long the virus could live on metal surfaces, and with kids and their known difficulties with social norms (covering a sneeze, etc), that made sense. 
    I've heard that argument with the alcoholics. I've have mixed feelings, if the spikes are so bad we can;t safely go to many stores, there should be a better way to sell alcohol than a crowded small store. 
    Most parks I know of include large open fields, enough for 3 or 4 soccer fields. I could see closing playground equipment, but to close big fields seems pointless. Not everyone lives in a quiet street they feel safe letting their kids run around or ride bikes  or walk their pets. 
    i agree with that. i don't personally understand closing giant tracks of land either. maybe difficult to enforce distancing? not sure. 

    i had no problem with any business staying open as long as they adhered to the distancing guidelines. the liquor stores in manitoba are government controlled, so there was no issue there. private ones i could see being an issue. 
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  • cutz
    cutz Posts: 12,235
    my test came back negative. thanks for all the well wishes here and through pm. i appreciate it!
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,116
    New statement today is playgrounds are closed but sports teams can start practicing again.  They literally kicked off teams yesterday in the middle of practice.  The reason for the playground closure is there is a big Jewish holiday and literally hundreds if not thousands of Hasidics were crowded in playgrounds and parts of the park with no masks or any sort of social distancing.   Covid cases in lakewood are way up in the past week.  Lakewood has I believe the second largest Hasidic population outside of Israel.  
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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,829
    edited October 2020
    I meant to post this as a reply to the truck with the writing on it in the Trump thread, thought it was here when I was typing. Belongs more here anyway.

    I don't think anyone (or any significant number of people) think covid is a hoax per se, but that the handling of it and the shutdowns is. 
     Some democrats and some of the media don't help themselves with that cause by getting haircuts during a shutdown. Like the mayor of Chicago, got a haircut and when called out on it her excuse was that she cares about her hygiene. Or Chris Cuomo being "quarantined" in his basement and his big exit from it just helps promote the hoax idea, especially after his big lectures on covid and being spotted out on bike rides during his quarantine. 
    I personally don't buy into it all being a hoax, but I think there could have been better decisions made all around. And I believe that the democratic leaders aren't sad about the economy knowing that is the only reason why Biden now has a chance and is favored to win at this point.  There is no doubt it is going to help the democrats in the election the harder the economy gets hit and the longer schools stay closed. So although I wouldn't agree with them, it doesn't seem far fetched to me for someone to claim many of these decisions are based more on politics than science. And that's what I think someone means when they call it a hoax. 
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    cuomo's big exit?
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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,829
    edited October 2020
    cuomo's big exit?
    Remember when he came out of the basement and made it a big part of his show that day? It was so laughable and ridiculous. "Sorry I'm sweaty. I was just working out. It happens."
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    mace1229 said:
    cuomo's big exit?
    Remember when he came out of the basement and made it a big part of his show that day? It was so laughable and ridiculous. "Sorry I'm sweaty. I was just working out. It happens."
    i didn't see it. i just read about it now. yeah, cuomo is one of those bombastic ones i can't really take much of (same with Don Lemon and his constant incessant dramatics). but he wasn't out cycling. a cyclist confronted him in his own driveway for being outside. but yeah, if he's outside, then has a big exit video claiming he's been in his basement for weeks, that's uh, "theatre". 
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,604
    mace1229 said:
    cuomo's big exit?
    Remember when he came out of the basement and made it a big part of his show that day? It was so laughable and ridiculous. "Sorry I'm sweaty. I was just working out. It happens."
    Yes just like the Covidiot himself! 
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,604
    Hugh 👍 on the results!
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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,870
    edited October 2020
    mace1229 said:
    I meant to post this as a reply to the truck with the writing on it in the Trump thread, thought it was here when I was typing. Belongs more here anyway.

    I don't think anyone (or any significant number of people) think covid is a hoax per se, but that the handling of it and the shutdowns is. 
     Some democrats and some of the media don't help themselves with that cause by getting haircuts during a shutdown. Like the mayor of Chicago, got a haircut and when called out on it her excuse was that she cares about her hygiene. Or Chris Cuomo being "quarantined" in his basement and his big exit from it just helps promote the hoax idea, especially after his big lectures on covid and being spotted out on bike rides during his quarantine. 
    I personally don't buy into it all being a hoax, but I think there could have been better decisions made all around. And I believe that the democratic leaders aren't sad about the economy knowing that is the only reason why Biden now has a chance and is favored to win at this point.  There is no doubt it is going to help the democrats in the election the harder the economy gets hit and the longer schools stay closed. So although I wouldn't agree with them, it doesn't seem far fetched to me for someone to claim many of these decisions are based more on politics than science. And that's what I think someone means when they call it a hoax. 


    I think your comment is revisionist history.

    In March we did not know how deadly this was or how easy the virus spreads.

    What we did know, is it went from China to over ten  thousand miles away, super quick and super easy.

    What we did soon learn is that we went from a handful of cases total to two thousand deaths per day.

    We should count our lucky stars this virus isn’t deadlier and medicine figured out fairly quickly how to reduce the fatality rate. That took months to accomplish.

    If we open everything up and take our masks off, what’s to stop hundreds of thousands more infections? This thing spreads as fast as a wildfire. And it’s still 10 times deadlier than the flu. The fact is, if trump were smart and handled this properly, he would have a better chance to get re-elected. He was ineffective and should pay the price at the polls.
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,604
    mace1229 said:
    I meant to post this as a reply to the truck with the writing on it in the Trump thread, thought it was here when I was typing. Belongs more here anyway.

    I don't think anyone (or any significant number of people) think covid is a hoax per se, but that the handling of it and the shutdowns is. 
     Some democrats and some of the media don't help themselves with that cause by getting haircuts during a shutdown. Like the mayor of Chicago, got a haircut and when called out on it her excuse was that she cares about her hygiene. Or Chris Cuomo being "quarantined" in his basement and his big exit from it just helps promote the hoax idea, especially after his big lectures on covid and being spotted out on bike rides during his quarantine. 
    I personally don't buy into it all being a hoax, but I think there could have been better decisions made all around. And I believe that the democratic leaders aren't sad about the economy knowing that is the only reason why Biden now has a chance and is favored to win at this point.  There is no doubt it is going to help the democrats in the election the harder the economy gets hit and the longer schools stay closed. So although I wouldn't agree with them, it doesn't seem far fetched to me for someone to claim many of these decisions are based more on politics than science. And that's what I think someone means when they call it a hoax. 


    I think your comment is revisionist history.

    In March we did not know how deadly this was or how easy the virus spreads.

    What we did know, is it went from China to over ten  thousand miles away, super quick and super easy.

    What we did soon learn is that we went from a handful of cases total to two thousand deaths per day.

    We should count our lucky stars this virus isn’t deadlier and medicine figured out fairly quickly how to reduce the fatality rate. That took months to accomplish.

    If we open everything up and take our masks off, what’s to stop hundreds of thousands more infections? This thing spreads as fast as a wildfire. And it’s still 10 times deadlier than the flu. The fact is, if trump were smart and handled this properly, he would have a better chance to get re-elected. He was ineffective and should pay the price at the polls.
    He had his chance to be presidential in a time of grief he failed miserably he laughed at the virus he should be literally thrown into a garbage dumpster! 
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,416
  • mace1229 said:
    So although I wouldn't agree with them, it doesn't seem far fetched to me for someone to claim many of these decisions are based more on politics than science. 
    Actions driven by politicians =/= Actions being politically driven.
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,471
    edited October 2020
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spunkie
    Spunkie i come from downtown. Posts: 7,095
    Good news Hughes!

    Chantal Kreviasuk is performing nearby this month in a small theater with 50 people. There are two 70-minute shows, no intermission, groups distanced in pairs or fours.

    I might try for tickets. I saw her perform the Pixies Where is my mind? with her husband at an Our Lady Peace show. I was impressed.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    edited October 2020
    tish said:
    Good news Hughes!

    Chantal Kreviasuk is performing nearby this month in a small theater with 50 people. There are two 70-minute shows, no intermission, groups distanced in pairs or fours.

    I might try for tickets. I saw her perform the Pixies Where is my mind? with her husband at an Our Lady Peace show. I was impressed.
    yeah, she's playing the park theatre here. it actually might be tonight. very small seater. i actually got a code for $20 off a ticket since i went to see her and raine perform and introduce their film. that was a really cool experience too. did you see that movie? she's a whiny needy person. 

    i'm starting to wonder if i got a false negative (edit: not a false negative, incorrect reporting of results is what i meant). the results turnaround was insanely fast for a negative result. i've heard that a negative takes a couple to a few days to show up, positive results are communicated by phone within 24 hours. my wife knows someone who's son tested, and it came back negative in a very short time frame. his symptoms didn't go away, so she called his doc. his doc said "what are you talking about? his test came back positive". the entry on the website was obviously human error. i might call. 
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    oops. her show was two days ago. she was performing with a cellist. 
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