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    Poncier said:
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    I would have been fully on board with the Endeavor for Trevor, but Pats had too good a team to go the requisite 1-15 or 2-14, especially with 4 games against the Jets and Dolphins even with Stidham at the helm, so Bill got Cam to contend.
    Now had he known he was going to have 8 opt outs including Hightower and Chung, he might have followed through on trading Gilmore at draft time (he was shopped) and not signed Newton, then maybe some creative tanking could get you into the Lawrence sweepstakes. But the opt outs happened after he had Newton and knew he was healthy...so ere we are.
    Are they a Superb Owl team?
    Not likely unless Mahomes gets hurt, but stranger things have happened.

    Plus he really wants to catch Shula for most all time wins (I bet he wished Shula, who's hiring caused the Dolphins to be docked a draft pick for tampering, hadn't died so he could subtly rub it in his face when it happens after Shula's petty "Belicheat" comments)
    He is a convicted cheater so I’d say he is being petty if he doesn’t like being called that.

    agree with the post above too about Newton. Let’s hold off on the coronation just yet. Best one bad team and lost to a good team. Still lot to be determine there

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    pjhawks said:
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    He is a convicted cheater so I’d say he is being petty if he doesn’t like being called that.



    The point is that Shula was a convicted cheater as well. And once his precious 72 Dolphins perfect season was threatened he had to resort to using the term Belicheat, class act that Shula.
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    Poncier said:
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    The point is that Shula was a convicted cheater as well. And once his precious 72 Dolphins perfect season was threatened he had to resort to using the term Belicheat, class act that Shula.
    Neither one of these guys are convicts.  It’s sports.... everyone cheats (bends the rules/gamesmanship/etc) and if you think otherwise you are a fool. 

    If a DB interferes with a receiver and prevents a touchdown, technically it’s cheating. He broke the rules of the game. It’s a spot-foul penalty, but it saved a touchdown. Happens every.single.game.

    For any pro-sport athlete, coach, GM, owner to call another a cheat is hypocritical.
    For any fan to call any one of them a cheater is hypocritical because they hold them to a standard higher than themselves. Joe sports fan has never cheated on their taxes? A significant other? A high school/college exam? The golf course? It’s laughable. 


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    1ThoughtKnown said:
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    Neither one of these guys are convicts.  It’s sports.... everyone cheats (bends the rules/gamesmanship/etc) and if you think otherwise you are a fool. 

    If a DB interferes with a receiver and prevents a touchdown, technically it’s cheating. He broke the rules of the game. It’s a spot-foul penalty, but it saved a touchdown. Happens every.single.game.

    For any pro-sport athlete, coach, GM, owner to call another a cheat is hypocritical.
    For any fan to call any one of them a cheater is hypocritical because they hold them to a standard higher than themselves. Joe sports fan has never cheated on their taxes? A significant other? A high school/college exam? The golf course? It’s laughable. 


    Except you know the Pats have been convicted and discipline now what four times for cheating. The rest of the league.....
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    edited September 2020
    pjhawks said:
    1ThoughtKnown said:
    Poncier said:
    pjhawks said:
    Poncier said:
    MayDay10 said:
     
    Should have folded up the tent and tried to get Lawrence on a long-term ELC
    I would have been fully on board with the Endeavor for Trevor, but Pats had too good a team to go the requisite 1-15 or 2-14, especially with 4 games against the Jets and Dolphins even with Stidham at the helm, so Bill got Cam to contend.
    Now had he known he was going to have 8 opt outs including Hightower and Chung, he might have followed through on trading Gilmore at draft time (he was shopped) and not signed Newton, then maybe some creative tanking could get you into the Lawrence sweepstakes. But the opt outs happened after he had Newton and knew he was healthy...so ere we are.
    Are they a Superb Owl team?
    Not likely unless Mahomes gets hurt, but stranger things have happened.

    Plus he really wants to catch Shula for most all time wins (I bet he wished Shula, who's hiring caused the Dolphins to be docked a draft pick for tampering, hadn't died so he could subtly rub it in his face when it happens after Shula's petty "Belicheat" comments)
    He is a convicted cheater so I’d say he is being petty if he doesn’t like being called that.



    The point is that Shula was a convicted cheater as well. And once his precious 72 Dolphins perfect season was threatened he had to resort to using the term Belicheat, class act that Shula.
    Neither one of these guys are convicts.  It’s sports.... everyone cheats (bends the rules/gamesmanship/etc) and if you think otherwise you are a fool. 

    If a DB interferes with a receiver and prevents a touchdown, technically it’s cheating. He broke the rules of the game. It’s a spot-foul penalty, but it saved a touchdown. Happens every.single.game.

    For any pro-sport athlete, coach, GM, owner to call another a cheat is hypocritical.
    For any fan to call any one of them a cheater is hypocritical because they hold them to a standard higher than themselves. Joe sports fan has never cheated on their taxes? A significant other? A high school/college exam? The golf course? It’s laughable. 


    Except you know the Pats have been convicted and discipline now what four times for cheating. The rest of the league.....
    Nevermind.  Haters are gonna hate. 
    6 SB wins. 9 SB appearances in two decades, only because BB is a “cheater”.  

    According to this website the Pats are middle of the pack. It’s just you know, they WIN.ALL.THE.TIME 



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  • Posts: 12,912
    1ThoughtKnown said:
    pjhawks said:
    1ThoughtKnown said:
    Poncier said:
    pjhawks said:
    Poncier said:
    MayDay10 said:
     
    Should have folded up the tent and tried to get Lawrence on a long-term ELC
    I would have been fully on board with the Endeavor for Trevor, but Pats had too good a team to go the requisite 1-15 or 2-14, especially with 4 games against the Jets and Dolphins even with Stidham at the helm, so Bill got Cam to contend.
    Now had he known he was going to have 8 opt outs including Hightower and Chung, he might have followed through on trading Gilmore at draft time (he was shopped) and not signed Newton, then maybe some creative tanking could get you into the Lawrence sweepstakes. But the opt outs happened after he had Newton and knew he was healthy...so ere we are.
    Are they a Superb Owl team?
    Not likely unless Mahomes gets hurt, but stranger things have happened.

    Plus he really wants to catch Shula for most all time wins (I bet he wished Shula, who's hiring caused the Dolphins to be docked a draft pick for tampering, hadn't died so he could subtly rub it in his face when it happens after Shula's petty "Belicheat" comments)
    He is a convicted cheater so I’d say he is being petty if he doesn’t like being called that.



    The point is that Shula was a convicted cheater as well. And once his precious 72 Dolphins perfect season was threatened he had to resort to using the term Belicheat, class act that Shula.
    Neither one of these guys are convicts.  It’s sports.... everyone cheats (bends the rules/gamesmanship/etc) and if you think otherwise you are a fool. 

    If a DB interferes with a receiver and prevents a touchdown, technically it’s cheating. He broke the rules of the game. It’s a spot-foul penalty, but it saved a touchdown. Happens every.single.game.

    For any pro-sport athlete, coach, GM, owner to call another a cheat is hypocritical.
    For any fan to call any one of them a cheater is hypocritical because they hold them to a standard higher than themselves. Joe sports fan has never cheated on their taxes? A significant other? A high school/college exam? The golf course? It’s laughable. 


    Except you know the Pats have been convicted and discipline now what four times for cheating. The rest of the league.....
    Nevermind.  Haters are gonna hate. 
    6 SB wins. 9 SB appearances in two decades, only because BB is a “cheater”.  

    According to this website the Pats are middle of the pack. It’s just you know, they WIN.ALL.THE.TIME 



    I never said they win because they cheat. What I said is correct. They have been disciplined for cheating four times during Bellicheck’s tenure. Why can’t Pats fans just admit the truth..,that they have cheated but you just don’t care because the wins justify the cheating? Is it a morality play that you won’t admit that. I’d respect Pats fans if they just admit they don’t care about cheating.  You know like Duke, Kansas and North Carolina basketball fans
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    pjhawks said:
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    I never said they win because they cheat. What I said is correct. They have been disciplined for cheating four times during Bellicheck’s tenure. Why can’t Pats fans just admit the truth..,that they have cheated but you just don’t care because the wins justify the cheating? Is it a morality play that you won’t admit that. I’d respect Pats fans if they just admit they don’t care about cheating.  You know like Duke, Kansas and North Carolina basketball fans
    Patriots fan since 1971, I'm saying the Patriots have cheated and done so repeatedly. They have been penalized for it and the team has continued forward playing the game. In that continuation they've won quite a bit in that time drawing the ire of other teams and fans. Am I bothered by the cheating yes, however no more than any fan when their team does their cheating. 

    That said this year for the Patriots will be very interesting since several of their defensive stars are not playing. If they can win 11 games I'd be surprised but with BB at the helmet anything is possible. The Patriots to me become more interesting when they're NOT expected to do much in the playoffs rather than being the top dog like the Chiefs.

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    pjhawks said:
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    I never said they win because they cheat. What I said is correct. They have been disciplined for cheating four times during Bellicheck’s tenure. Why can’t Pats fans just admit the truth..,that they have cheated but you just don’t care because the wins justify the cheating? Is it a morality play that you won’t admit that. I’d respect Pats fans if they just admit they don’t care about cheating.  You know like Duke, Kansas and North Carolina basketball fans
    You obviously never read my previous post on the absurdity of the “morality“ people expect of sports teams. Yet you will probably buy Nike shoes made in a sweat shop in Cambodia without batting an eye. 
    It’s hypocrisy. 
    My next post shows THEY ALL CHEAT. Some more than others. Go to the website... educate yourself. 
    Then just admit because the Pats won all the time... the hate grows stronger. Meanwhile, Pats Nation laughs....and laughs... and laughs.
  • this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,812
    edited September 2020
    Pretty common saying in athletics - if you ain't cheating, you ain't trying 

    They all push for an edge.  The Patriots push harder, and get caught more....not much more to it than that.
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    F Me In The Brain said:
    Pretty common saying in athletics - if you ain't cheating, you ain't trying 

    They all push for an edge.  The Patriots push harder, and get caught more....not much more to it than that.
    Bang on
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    1ThoughtKnown said:
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    Shula was the definition of a grumpy old man. Lol. 
    no, I’m the definition!
    If I had known then what I know now...

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    F Me In The Brain said:
    Pretty common saying in athletics - if you ain't cheating, you ain't trying 

    They all push for an edge.  The Patriots push harder, and get caught more....not much more to it than that.
    YO we had a guy on that team who actually killed two people.
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    ikiT said:
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    YO we had a guy on that team who actually killed two people.
    Ha.  Yeah he was a bad dude!
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    ikiT said:
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    YO we had a guy on that team who actually killed two people.
    He got caught, not sure what that had to do with the team. His crimes certainly didn’t help them win a SuperBowl
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    We want #4!
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    We WANT #4!
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    Crap call on the fumble by Mahomes.
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    Give us #4, please?
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    Bench Hoyer and give us #4, please?
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    Well Hoyer has now left 6 points off the board. But they are still in it! 

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