Biden vs Trump 2020 - vote now and discuss!

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  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,973
    Falling down,...not staying down
  • Kat said:
    If I’m Biden I’m talking about this every single day!

    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • This is a good breakdown of why Team Trump Treason’s denigrating the military is going to hurt him and be an issue going forward. It’s never been a one off gaffe. There’s too many instances that we’ve witnessed with what’s been reported privately. And they’re all plausible.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/04/politics/donald-trump-military-the-atlantic-story/index.html
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  • Captain Sully is speaking out about Team Trump Treason’s military comments now, encouraging folks to vote Sleepy Woke Joe.
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,637
    Biden
    Captain Sully is speaking out about Team Trump Treason’s military comments now, encouraging folks to vote Sleepy Woke Joe.
    I like pilots that land on runways, not water.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,918
    Biden
    OnWis97 said:
    Captain Sully is speaking out about Team Trump Treason’s military comments now, encouraging folks to vote Sleepy Woke Joe.
    I like pilots that land on runways, not water.
    Honestly,  that is so great.  Nicely done. 
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,088
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    I know I'm biased, but I feel like Biden is having a strong week, negating any positives coming from the RNC.  
    Good speech in Pitt with good press
    Good poll numbers, generally
    Wisconsin trip was good, with him doing and saying the right things.
    Trump was Trump, which is usually good for us.  
    While I share your bias, in theory, I'm obviously biased the other way some...

    I think he's had a solid week, as well, at least qualitatively.  He still seems old, since he is, but he's not nearly as "foot in the grave" as I thought he'd be. If he can keep this up, that's a good thing. He waited for the actual president to do his Wisconsin song-and-dance so as not to get in his way and visited afterward. Was it PR?  Yeah, but that doesn't negate it from being rooted in true concern and compassion. The DNC did a great job of humanizing him and when you look at those kinds of human traits, it should be obvious to everyone which guy cares and which guy is a miserable, loathsome human being.

    If the whole "where's Joe?" BS can be done away with and he can continue to hit Trump with some force while mixing in character and actual plans, he'll be moving in the right direction. 

    Between the devotion of the followers and the not-even-veiled cheating, I don't feel confident, but Biden is doing what he can do fairly well at this point.
    The plan was always to lie low until the convention and then hit the road.  So I think he's in good shape for November.  Trump and team continue to insult him,  thereby lowering the bar for him to exceed.  This is true about his age, his cognitive abilities, his speaking and 'hiding in the basement'.  You even had the same thought with your 'foot in the grave' comment.  Now did you get that from watching him in teh debates?  Or was it from Trump, far left wing during the primaries, etc.?  I think his first debate was rusty, but after that he was really strong. And he took the brunt of the body blows.


    Biden needs to hit the road a lot more and figure out a way to have voters in attendance. He needs to hammer the six swing states plus a couple states trump almost won like MN. 

    And when Biden goes to one of the  six swing states, like he did with PA, he needs to stop “pulling a Hillary” and visit liberal enclaves. He spoke in Pittsburgh. He needs to go to swing areas of swing states. Campaigning in  Pitt or philly or Miami is like doing it in NY. Go to the red regions outside of Pitt.

    sure some of that will help GOTV but Biden needs to communicate with parts of the country with the trump signs and pull down some of that vote. Try to lose 65/35 as opposed to 80/20. That’s what made Obama genius.

    Yeah I don't think I agree with you.  He went to a working class  part of Pitt, in western PA. That's not really a liberal enclave.  It's not like he spoke at Carnegie Mellon. There's no point in going to a rural county.  You still have to go where people live which is generally going to be urban areas.  The question is where in the urban areas do you go. 

    That weird, I read he did give the speech at Carnegie Mellon. Either way, It was in the city which is about the only west PA county to vote for Hillary.

    Since Biden is doing very few public appearances he needs to be more surgical on location. He needs to hit swing locations, not swing states.  Best bet is to campaign in Obama Trump counties.
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,147
    Biden
    So this is stuff that is floating around on LinkedIn....these guys are all in against Biden even if they don’t love trump..because the socialists are coming.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,918
    Biden
    static111 said:
    So this is stuff that is floating around on LinkedIn....these guys are all in against Biden even if they don’t love trump..because the socialists are coming.
    Nothing is lower class or looked down upon like someone using Linked for political posts.  It's trash people. 
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,147
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    So this is stuff that is floating around on LinkedIn....these guys are all in against Biden even if they don’t love trump..because the socialists are coming.
    Nothing is lower class or looked down upon like someone using Linked for political posts.  It's trash people. 
    They still vote and there are still a lot of them unfortunately. I agree about LinkedIn not being the place for political posts, but it still comes up more often than it should and quite often in trumps favor....
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  • Biden
    dignin said:
    dankind said:
    dankind said:
    Somebody needs to take His keys away from him...Good lord Joe, you are going to blow it...Stay in the basement!!

    Thomas Catenacci, a Northeastern University college student, no thanks. 
    As a former and longtime Fenway resident (~10 years), I took the liberty of editing this for you. 
    Wow! Are you an editor? If not, you should be!
    I’m just going to leave this here. 



    Looks like not much has changed in the 15 years since I had to live near these people. 
    If I’m being honest, I don’t see how I wouldn’t have gone out and partied if my school was still open as an 18-21 year old. I blame the school more than the kids...

    No, the students are to blame.  They aren't kids.  They are adults that know better but are selfish.  Not everyone needed to get wasted every weekend in college. 
    Sounds like someone was never invited to the party.
    Hahahah funny.

    It really is the kids fault. Now - pretty easy to see this coming as despite pretending to be adults, 18-21 year olds are not adults or barely are.

    This says a lot of about college kids unfortunately. Stuff we already knew.  

    And knowing that, colleges should have been remote learning, cause the kids are too old to listen and to young to not be dumbasses.
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,637
    Biden
    If this had all happened when I was in college, I may have partied.  But that doesn’t mean it would not have been my fault...well, our fault.
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  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,263
    edited September 2020
    Biden
    dignin said:
    dankind said:
    dankind said:
    Somebody needs to take His keys away from him...Good lord Joe, you are going to blow it...Stay in the basement!!

    Thomas Catenacci, a Northeastern University college student, no thanks. 
    As a former and longtime Fenway resident (~10 years), I took the liberty of editing this for you. 
    Wow! Are you an editor? If not, you should be!
    I’m just going to leave this here. 



    Looks like not much has changed in the 15 years since I had to live near these people. 
    If I’m being honest, I don’t see how I wouldn’t have gone out and partied if my school was still open as an 18-21 year old. I blame the school more than the kids...

    No, the students are to blame.  They aren't kids.  They are adults that know better but are selfish.  Not everyone needed to get wasted every weekend in college. 
    Sounds like someone was never invited to the party.

    Ha.  Why doesn't anyone like me??????????   But yeah, tired of the thought that 18 year old's aren't adults.  Schools use that bullshit to convince you that you need 4-5 years of extra schooling and rack of thousands of student loans.   

    Full disclosure:  I think I went to two parties in college.  I hate going to bars now when friends want to go (unless you don't have to scream to talk over the music).  Just not my scene. 

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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,766
    Biden
    Captain CB Sully Sullivan

    I am a veteran. I volunteered for military service during wartime. So did my father. His generation saved the world from fascism.

    In our travels, my wife Lorrie and I have always made it a point to visit military bases, hospitals and cemeteries, to meet and honor those who serve and have served our nation.

    I have long known that serving a cause greater than oneself is the highest calling, whether in the military or in civilian life. And I have always tried to be a voice of reason and to speak in a measured way.

    But this situation calls for a much more direct approach. It is time to call out egregious behavior for what it is.

    For the first time in American history, a president has repeatedly shown utter and vulgar contempt and disrespect for those who have served and died serving our country.

    While I am not surprised, I am disgusted by the current occupant of the Oval Office. He has repeatedly and consistently shown himself to be completely unfit for and to have no respect for the office he holds.

    He took an oath of office that is similar to the one that each person takes who enters the U.S. Military. But he has completely failed to uphold his oath.

    Now we know why. He has admitted that he cannot comprehend the concept of service above self.

    He cannot understand selflessness because he is selfish. He cannot conceive of courage because he is a coward. He cannot feel duty because he is disloyal.

    We owe it not only to those who have served and sacrificed for our nation, but to ourselves and to succeeding generations to vote him out.

    https://bit.ly/3h07oXQ via The Atlantic


    pssst he's a Republican. Who do ya think he's voting for?

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  • mickeyrat
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    current Ancestry tv commercial. looking to expand stories from those in and around WW2.....
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  • brianlux
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    Biden
    dignin said:
    dankind said:
    dankind said:
    Somebody needs to take His keys away from him...Good lord Joe, you are going to blow it...Stay in the basement!!

    Thomas Catenacci, a Northeastern University college student, no thanks. 
    As a former and longtime Fenway resident (~10 years), I took the liberty of editing this for you. 
    Wow! Are you an editor? If not, you should be!
    I’m just going to leave this here. 



    Looks like not much has changed in the 15 years since I had to live near these people. 
    If I’m being honest, I don’t see how I wouldn’t have gone out and partied if my school was still open as an 18-21 year old. I blame the school more than the kids...

    No, the students are to blame.  They aren't kids.  They are adults that know better but are selfish.  Not everyone needed to get wasted every weekend in college. 
    Sounds like someone was never invited to the party.

    Ha.  Why doesn't anyone like me??????????   But yeah, tired of the thought that 18 year old's aren't adults.  Schools use that bullshit to convince you that you need 4-5 years of extra schooling and rack of thousands of student loans.   

    Full disclosure:  I think I went to two parties in college.  I hate going to bars now when friends want to go (unless you don't have to scream to talk over the music).  Just not my scene. 


    Don't worry, man, you're in good company!

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  • mickeyrat
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,405
    Biden
    how can the trump campaign be broke less than 60 days before the election??
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    I'm sitting this one out
    brianlux said:
    dignin said:
    dankind said:
    dankind said:
    Somebody needs to take His keys away from him...Good lord Joe, you are going to blow it...Stay in the basement!!

    Thomas Catenacci, a Northeastern University college student, no thanks. 
    As a former and longtime Fenway resident (~10 years), I took the liberty of editing this for you. 
    Wow! Are you an editor? If not, you should be!
    I’m just going to leave this here. 



    Looks like not much has changed in the 15 years since I had to live near these people. 
    If I’m being honest, I don’t see how I wouldn’t have gone out and partied if my school was still open as an 18-21 year old. I blame the school more than the kids...

    No, the students are to blame.  They aren't kids.  They are adults that know better but are selfish.  Not everyone needed to get wasted every weekend in college. 
    Sounds like someone was never invited to the party.

    Ha.  Why doesn't anyone like me??????????   But yeah, tired of the thought that 18 year old's aren't adults.  Schools use that bullshit to convince you that you need 4-5 years of extra schooling and rack of thousands of student loans.   

    Full disclosure:  I think I went to two parties in college.  I hate going to bars now when friends want to go (unless you don't have to scream to talk over the music).  Just not my scene. 


    Don't worry, man, you're in good company!

    And these fellas.


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  • mickeyrat
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    edited September 2020
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