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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,457
    I can no longer bring myself to the check the box for Trump.  I'm terrified of the risk with Biden/Harris but we know what we have with Trump, a babbling buffoon. First time ever, voting independent.
    So not voting for either candidate?
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    F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 30,802
    edited October 2020
    Biden
    I can no longer bring myself to the check the box for Trump.  I'm terrified of the risk with Biden/Harris but we know what we have with Trump, a babbling buffoon. First time ever, voting independent.

    Interesting, thanks.  That was me in 2016, voting for the pothead from New Mexico.
    Consider that a vote for Trump staying in, this time....but I respect your decision making.
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,275
    Biden
    I can no longer bring myself to the check the box for Trump.  I'm terrified of the risk with Biden/Harris but we know what we have with Trump, a babbling buffoon. First time ever, voting independent.
    thanks for the vote to maintain status quo.
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,811
    Biden
    I can no longer bring myself to the check the box for Trump.  I'm terrified of the risk with Biden/Harris but we know what we have with Trump, a babbling buffoon. First time ever, voting independent.
    thanks for the vote to maintain status quo.
    Hey now, a vote for Trump in 16 to third party in 20 is a win. 
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,275
    Biden
    I can no longer bring myself to the check the box for Trump.  I'm terrified of the risk with Biden/Harris but we know what we have with Trump, a babbling buffoon. First time ever, voting independent.
    please tell me it is kanye, because that would be amazing.
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    OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 4,839
    Biden
    I can no longer bring myself to the check the box for Trump.  I'm terrified of the risk with Biden/Harris but we know what we have with Trump, a babbling buffoon. First time ever, voting independent.
    What could possibly be "the risk" of Biden/Harris? SoCiAlIsM? ThE eNd Of ReLiGiOn?
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,275
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    I can no longer bring myself to the check the box for Trump.  I'm terrified of the risk with Biden/Harris but we know what we have with Trump, a babbling buffoon. First time ever, voting independent.
    thanks for the vote to maintain status quo.
    Hey now, a vote for Trump in 16 to third party in 20 is a win. 
    a win for who? not trump. not biden.
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    F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 30,802
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    I can no longer bring myself to the check the box for Trump.  I'm terrified of the risk with Biden/Harris but we know what we have with Trump, a babbling buffoon. First time ever, voting independent.
    thanks for the vote to maintain status quo.
    Hey now, a vote for Trump in 16 to third party in 20 is a win. 

    Agree
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    F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 30,802
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    I can no longer bring myself to the check the box for Trump.  I'm terrified of the risk with Biden/Harris but we know what we have with Trump, a babbling buffoon. First time ever, voting independent.
    thanks for the vote to maintain status quo.
    Hey now, a vote for Trump in 16 to third party in 20 is a win. 
    a win for who? not trump. not biden.

    the world
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    OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 4,839
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    I can no longer bring myself to the check the box for Trump.  I'm terrified of the risk with Biden/Harris but we know what we have with Trump, a babbling buffoon. First time ever, voting independent.
    thanks for the vote to maintain status quo.
    Hey now, a vote for Trump in 16 to third party in 20 is a win. 
    a win for who? not trump. not biden.

    It's like half-a-win. If 200 Trump voters vote for Biden, it's a 400-vote shift. If 200 Trump voters go 3rd, it's a 200-vote shift.  Half credit.
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 18,143
    Biden
    I can no longer bring myself to the check the box for Trump.  I'm terrified of the risk with Biden/Harris but we know what we have with Trump, a babbling buffoon. First time ever, voting independent.
    Yes the Obama years and Clinton years were just horrific...
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)

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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,499
    edited October 2020
    I'm sitting this one out
    I can no longer bring myself to the check the box for Trump.  I'm terrified of the risk with Biden/Harris but we know what we have with Trump, a babbling buffoon. First time ever, voting independent.
    Lol. Yeah must be really scary. 
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,275
    Biden
    I can no longer bring myself to the check the box for Trump.  I'm terrified of the risk with Biden/Harris but we know what we have with Trump, a babbling buffoon. First time ever, voting independent.
    Yes the Obama years and Clinton years were just horrific...
    i know, right? i mean, have to have someone come in and fix all the economic damage done by every single republican president and congress. gotta have someone come in and try to balance the budget that the gop goes on and on and on about.
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,275
    Biden
    i just hope it is kanye.
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    F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 30,802
    Biden
    Guess it is not enough to say you disown Trump, a person has to like who you like as well for it to carry any meaning?

    Saying "no" to Trump and what his bunch of nutter followers think/represent is what is needed right now. 

    This is the only way we recover as a country once he is gone.

    They don't have to love the President, they just have to be against the type of garbage we have been dealing with being the President.

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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,811
    Biden
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    I can no longer bring myself to the check the box for Trump.  I'm terrified of the risk with Biden/Harris but we know what we have with Trump, a babbling buffoon. First time ever, voting independent.
    thanks for the vote to maintain status quo.
    Hey now, a vote for Trump in 16 to third party in 20 is a win. 
    a win for who? not trump. not biden.

    It's like half-a-win. If 200 Trump voters vote for Biden, it's a 400-vote shift. If 200 Trump voters go 3rd, it's a 200-vote shift.  Half credit.
    Yep, I'll take half wins over none. 
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    DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,413
    Nobody should be shamed for not voting for Biden. 
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    F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 30,802
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    I can no longer bring myself to the check the box for Trump.  I'm terrified of the risk with Biden/Harris but we know what we have with Trump, a babbling buffoon. First time ever, voting independent.
    thanks for the vote to maintain status quo.
    Hey now, a vote for Trump in 16 to third party in 20 is a win. 
    a win for who? not trump. not biden.

    It's like half-a-win. If 200 Trump voters vote for Biden, it's a 400-vote shift. If 200 Trump voters go 3rd, it's a 200-vote shift.  Half credit.
    Yep, I'll take half wins over none. 

    Why do you have to use reason?  Wouldn't it be better to poke fun at the person here and hope to change his mind, see if you can get him to vote for Trump in that way?

    :frowning:
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,499
    edited October 2020
    I'm sitting this one out
    DewieCox said:
    Nobody should be shamed for not voting for Biden. 
    Everyone should be a tiny tad shamed for not voting as far away from Trump as one can. For the survival of the planet if for no other reason.

    It's like staying neutral in WW2. 
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    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 18,996
    Biden
    Thoughts and prayers to voters who know Trump is scum but can't bring themselves to vote for the icky Democrats. 
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,470
    edited October 2020
    Biden
    I can no longer bring myself to the check the box for Trump.  I'm terrified of the risk with Biden/Harris but we know what we have with Trump, a babbling buffoon. First time ever, voting independent.
    Yes the Obama years and Clinton years were just horrific...
    This is what is so crazy to me. He was completing a second term as vice president literally 4 years ago. You don't have to look back far at all to wonder what a Biden admin will be like. Sheesh. 

    But yeah, at least he didn't vote for Trump again. 
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    JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 18,996
    Biden
    dignin said:
    JimmyV said:
    Republicans won't just try to steal this election and stop. With a stranglehold on the Supreme Court and FOX News providing cover, they will try each and every cycle. What we are seeing today will be the new norm going forward. 
    Since 2000.
    That's fair but in 2000 they were still concerned with appearances. They may have been willing to steal an election but they didn't want to look like they were stealing an election. Not anymore. They know longer care what it looks like and they feel no need to hide it. 
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,275
    Biden
    my question is, what are all of these democrats being helped by project lincoln going to owe project lincoln in the end? anything? seems strange that they would be altruistic about spending all this money and making all of these ads for democratic candidates.


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    OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 4,839
    Biden
    Guess it is not enough to say you disown Trump, a person has to like who you like as well for it to carry any meaning?

    Saying "no" to Trump and what his bunch of nutter followers think/represent is what is needed right now. 

    This is the only way we recover as a country once he is gone.

    They don't have to love the President, they just have to be against the type of garbage we have been dealing with being the President.


    I agree...but I'm genuinely curious as to what's "terrifying" about Biden and/or Harris. I'm not shaming, nor am I trying to convince anyone to change their vote. But I don't think it's wrong to ask "why is it terrifying?"
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,499
    edited October 2020
    I'm sitting this one out
    my question is, what are all of these democrats being helped by project lincoln going to owe project lincoln in the end? anything? seems strange that they would be altruistic about spending all this money and making all of these ads for democratic candidates.


    I think their long-con is to be perceived as no BS truthtellers -- and when they turn on democrats next time around for republican gain, you all spreading their tweets and videos will stand there with skägget i brevlådan. 
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    Biden
    my question is, what are all of these democrats being helped by project lincoln going to owe project lincoln in the end? anything? seems strange that they would be altruistic about spending all this money and making all of these ads for democratic candidates.


    This might be what they're working towards....

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/anti-trump-lincoln-project-aims-to-build-media-business-operation-after-election

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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,275
    Biden
    my question is, what are all of these democrats being helped by project lincoln going to owe project lincoln in the end? anything? seems strange that they would be altruistic about spending all this money and making all of these ads for democratic candidates.


    I think their long-con is to be perceived as no BS truthtellers -- and when they turn on democrats next time around for republican gain, you all spreading their tweets and videos will stand there with skägget i brevlådan. 
    i think most of them know that project lincoln are longtime republican operatives. some have left the gop but are still conservative.

    sooner or later they will go back home. maybe 2024. maybe later if trumpism i still the dominant philosophy of the gop in 2024.

    either way, they are way ahead of dems with messaging and ads. dems have a long way to go if project lincoln end up turning on the dems.
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    I'm sitting this one out


    They also stole stuff from Vic Berger and from other people:


    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,470
    edited October 2020
    Biden
    lol....this again?

    Also, my goodness! They stole Vic Berger's stuff?!?!!?? OH NO!
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    Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,227
    my question is, what are all of these democrats being helped by project lincoln going to owe project lincoln in the end? anything? seems strange that they would be altruistic about spending all this money and making all of these ads for democratic candidates.


    I think their long-con is to be perceived as no BS truthtellers -- and when they turn on democrats next time around for republican gain, you all spreading their tweets and videos will stand there with skägget i brevlådan. 
    i think most of them know that project lincoln are longtime republican operatives. some have left the gop but are still conservative.

    sooner or later they will go back home. maybe 2024. maybe later if trumpism i still the dominant philosophy of the gop in 2024.

    either way, they are way ahead of dems with messaging and ads. dems have a long way to go if project lincoln end up turning on the dems.

    One of the founders was on the news this am and she said their plans are to keep LP going long term.

    Her point is they are also against Trumpism, which will still be here even if trump loses.
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