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  • I think what’s yet to be seen is are these new voters or just people voting early/differently?   All these breathless - more people already voted than voted for either candidate in 2016 may not actually mean anything other than lines will be much shorter on Election Day.

    Im not saying turnout won’t be higher.  But, extrapolating early voting to the ultimate number is foolish.  There’s no precedent or model that would help anyone accurately predict that.

    It’s great people are voting. And it sounds like despite concerns, covid really hasn’t created a problem in person.  So, that’s good too.
    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,808
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    I think what’s yet to be seen is are these new voters or just people voting early/differently?   All these breathless - more people already voted than voted for either candidate in 2016 may not actually mean anything other than lines will be much shorter on Election Day.

    Im not saying turnout won’t be higher.  But, extrapolating early voting to the ultimate number is foolish.  There’s no precedent or model that would help anyone accurately predict that.

    It’s great people are voting. And it sounds like despite concerns, covid really hasn’t created a problem in person.  So, that’s good too.
    i've been wondering this too. there's absolutely no way to tell if this means voting will smash records after all is tallied up. it could just mean people are expecting longer lines on nov 3 and are choosing to vote early. 
    Darwinspeed, all. 

    Cheers,

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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,936
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    Early voting isn't new though...so if current tallies exceed prior figures that would suggest an increase in turnout.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,808
    edited October 2020
    Biden
    Early voting isn't new though...so if current tallies exceed prior figures that would suggest an increase in turnout.
    i'm sure there's an increase....just saying the way it's being framed is out of context with the pandemic and potential voter intimidation as mitigating factors. 
    Darwinspeed, all. 

    Cheers,

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  • If this doesn’t make your skin crawl and your hair stand up, there’s something seriously wrong with you.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/oct/25/deep-down-terrified-little-boy-bob-woodward-mary-trump-john-bolton-anthony-scaramucci-on-donald-trump
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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,303
    I think what’s yet to be seen is are these new voters or just people voting early/differently?   All these breathless - more people already voted than voted for either candidate in 2016 may not actually mean anything other than lines will be much shorter on Election Day.

    Im not saying turnout won’t be higher.  But, extrapolating early voting to the ultimate number is foolish.  There’s no precedent or model that would help anyone accurately predict that.

    It’s great people are voting. And it sounds like despite concerns, covid really hasn’t created a problem in person.  So, that’s good too.
    i've been wondering this too. there's absolutely no way to tell if this means voting will smash records after all is tallied up. it could just mean people are expecting longer lines on nov 3 and are choosing to vote early. 
    Predicted record voter turnout is based on polling of enthusiasm. Can't find the article about it, but I think I posted a 538 link in the 538 thread.
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,258
    If this doesn’t make your skin crawl and your hair stand up, there’s something seriously wrong with you.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/oct/25/deep-down-terrified-little-boy-bob-woodward-mary-trump-john-bolton-anthony-scaramucci-on-donald-trump
    The enabler GOP are to blame! 
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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,094
    I think what’s yet to be seen is are these new voters or just people voting early/differently?   All these breathless - more people already voted than voted for either candidate in 2016 may not actually mean anything other than lines will be much shorter on Election Day.

    Im not saying turnout won’t be higher.  But, extrapolating early voting to the ultimate number is foolish.  There’s no precedent or model that would help anyone accurately predict that.

    It’s great people are voting. And it sounds like despite concerns, covid really hasn’t created a problem in person.  So, that’s good too.
    i've been wondering this too. there's absolutely no way to tell if this means voting will smash records after all is tallied up. it could just mean people are expecting longer lines on nov 3 and are choosing to vote early. 

    Shorter lines on Election Day can increase turn out a lot, especially in cities that spend less on election resources and have fewer polling places with long lines in the past (Detroit, Milwaukee, Philly, etc). Workers in years past leaving their jobs hungry at 5pm drive by the polling place and see very long lines drive straight home and do not vote.

    Also working from home could help increase turnout, less time commuting = more time to vote.
  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 4,814
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    I think what’s yet to be seen is are these new voters or just people voting early/differently?   All these breathless - more people already voted than voted for either candidate in 2016 may not actually mean anything other than lines will be much shorter on Election Day.

    Im not saying turnout won’t be higher.  But, extrapolating early voting to the ultimate number is foolish.  There’s no precedent or model that would help anyone accurately predict that.

    It’s great people are voting. And it sounds like despite concerns, covid really hasn’t created a problem in person.  So, that’s good too.
    i've been wondering this too. there's absolutely no way to tell if this means voting will smash records after all is tallied up. it could just mean people are expecting longer lines on nov 3 and are choosing to vote early. 

    Shorter lines on Election Day can increase turn out a lot, especially in cities that spend less on election resources and have fewer polling places with long lines in the past (Detroit, Milwaukee, Philly, etc). Workers in years past leaving their jobs hungry at 5pm drive by the polling place and see very long lines drive straight home and do not vote.

    Also working from home could help increase turnout, less time commuting = more time to vote.
    Interesting points.  I believe COVID is the sole reason for the huge rise in early voting, but if semi-likely voters become aware of minimal crowds, maybe that gets som extras out.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,602
    Biden
    Voting in 18 spiked dramatically.  That,  plus the early voting numbers is part of the hypothesis. 
  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 18,810
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    Voting for Biden this morning felt good.
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  • static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    Biden
    Good news in Texas, Dallas Morning news Poll shows Biden leading Texas 48 to 45...let’s hope this lasts up to Election Day.
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  • cutz said:
    Of course. They told us they were going to do this and they did it right out in the open. Full transparency. We’ve become a banana republic. We’d be better run by Borat.
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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,739
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    static111 said:
    Good news in Texas, Dallas Morning news Poll shows Biden leading Texas 48 to 45...let’s hope this lasts up to Election Day.
    I can’t believe that.  Texas?!?! Wow 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • static111static111 Posts: 4,889
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    mcgruff10 said:
    static111 said:
    Good news in Texas, Dallas Morning news Poll shows Biden leading Texas 48 to 45...let’s hope this lasts up to Election Day.
    I can’t believe that.  Texas?!?! Wow 
    There is one caveat and that is that the poll was taken the day before Biden said something about transitioning from fossil fuels.  I am not as worried as some people about the fossil fuels comment.   I think most people, even those in the energy sector realize that global warming and pollution are actual issues that need solving.
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  • static111 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    static111 said:
    Good news in Texas, Dallas Morning news Poll shows Biden leading Texas 48 to 45...let’s hope this lasts up to Election Day.
    I can’t believe that.  Texas?!?! Wow 
    There is one caveat and that is that the poll was taken the day before Biden said something about transitioning from fossil fuels.  I am not as worried as some people about the fossil fuels comment.   I think most people, even those in the energy sector realize that global warming and pollution are actual issues that need solving.
    As I’ve said before - I know Biden is going to win.

    but you really think a 45-50 yo who’s only experience is working in the oil industry and his/her family care what our energy looks like in 20 years?   Lol. 
    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
  • static111 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    static111 said:
    Good news in Texas, Dallas Morning news Poll shows Biden leading Texas 48 to 45...let’s hope this lasts up to Election Day.
    I can’t believe that.  Texas?!?! Wow 
    There is one caveat and that is that the poll was taken the day before Biden said something about transitioning from fossil fuels.  I am not as worried as some people about the fossil fuels comment.   I think most people, even those in the energy sector realize that global warming and pollution are actual issues that need solving.
    It’s also within the MOE and the poll asked about gun ownership and amongst those, sleepy Woke joe basement Biden was down bigly, like 56% to 37%. Doesn’t everyone in Tejas own 3 guns?
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  • static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    Biden
    static111 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    static111 said:
    Good news in Texas, Dallas Morning news Poll shows Biden leading Texas 48 to 45...let’s hope this lasts up to Election Day.
    I can’t believe that.  Texas?!?! Wow 
    There is one caveat and that is that the poll was taken the day before Biden said something about transitioning from fossil fuels.  I am not as worried as some people about the fossil fuels comment.   I think most people, even those in the energy sector realize that global warming and pollution are actual issues that need solving.
    It’s also within the MOE and the poll asked about gun ownership and amongst those, sleepy Woke joe basement Biden was down bigly, like 56% to 37%. Doesn’t everyone in Tejas own 3 guns?
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  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,604
    Biden
    static111 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    static111 said:
    Good news in Texas, Dallas Morning news Poll shows Biden leading Texas 48 to 45...let’s hope this lasts up to Election Day.
    I can’t believe that.  Texas?!?! Wow 
    There is one caveat and that is that the poll was taken the day before Biden said something about transitioning from fossil fuels.  I am not as worried as some people about the fossil fuels comment.   I think most people, even those in the energy sector realize that global warming and pollution are actual issues that need solving.
    As I’ve said before - I know Biden is going to win.

    but you really think a 45-50 yo who’s only experience is working in the oil industry and his/her family care what our energy looks like in 20 years?   Lol. 
    To be fair, are those the people whose hearts are broken and they need to throw out their Biden apparel because of that comment?
  • static111 said:
    static111 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    static111 said:
    Good news in Texas, Dallas Morning news Poll shows Biden leading Texas 48 to 45...let’s hope this lasts up to Election Day.
    I can’t believe that.  Texas?!?! Wow 
    There is one caveat and that is that the poll was taken the day before Biden said something about transitioning from fossil fuels.  I am not as worried as some people about the fossil fuels comment.   I think most people, even those in the energy sector realize that global warming and pollution are actual issues that need solving.
    It’s also within the MOE and the poll asked about gun ownership and amongst those, sleepy Woke joe basement Biden was down bigly, like 56% to 37%. Doesn’t everyone in Tejas own 3 guns?
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    I’m sure your neighbors have more than made up for it.
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  • MayDay10 said:
    static111 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    static111 said:
    Good news in Texas, Dallas Morning news Poll shows Biden leading Texas 48 to 45...let’s hope this lasts up to Election Day.
    I can’t believe that.  Texas?!?! Wow 
    There is one caveat and that is that the poll was taken the day before Biden said something about transitioning from fossil fuels.  I am not as worried as some people about the fossil fuels comment.   I think most people, even those in the energy sector realize that global warming and pollution are actual issues that need solving.
    As I’ve said before - I know Biden is going to win.

    but you really think a 45-50 yo who’s only experience is working in the oil industry and his/her family care what our energy looks like in 20 years?   Lol. 
    To be fair, are those the people whose hearts are broken and they need to throw out their Biden apparel because of that comment?
    No but their flower shop, local cafe owners and such might have needed a reminder.  
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  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 12,624
    After watching that 60 Minutes interview tonight I have no fucking clue how anyone can vote for Trump over Biden. 
  • PJNB said:
    After watching that 60 Minutes interview tonight I have no fucking clue how anyone can vote for Trump over Biden. 
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  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 30,587
    Biden
    I like that they spent about 5 minutes with Michael Pen-is
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,141
    Biden
    PJNB said:
    After watching that 60 Minutes interview tonight I have no fucking clue how anyone can vote for Trump over Biden. 
    So nice of Trump to draw more attention to it.
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  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,411
    The front angle on Biden was creepy af.
  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 30,587
    Biden
    I thought the angle was off as well.

    Also, Joe will set the record for largest ears by a President should he win.
    His answers were mostly good.  I liked his energy.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,602
    Biden
    I thought the angle was off as well.

    Also, Joe will set the record for largest ears by a President should he win.
    His answers were mostly good.  I liked his energy.
    Largest ears... unless Ed wins one day. 
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 28,867
    edited October 2020
    I'm sitting this one out
    Weird that 60 minutes asks question that is... coming from and giving weight to the opponents slander and attacks.

    60 minutes to Kamala: "will that be a SOCIALIST or progressive perspective".

    Lol. Weird journalism.
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