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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,423
    Biden
    Those who might think that Team Trump Treason calling military folks losers and suckers is going to go away are making a mistake. This isn’t going away. Retired military, many 2nd, 3rd and 4th generation and Gold Star families are pissed. This is going to follow Team Trump Treason into and through the debates and up to Election Day. Look for heavy advertising regarding this issue in markets with a high % of military, both active duty and retired. Places like NC, FL, NV, VA, etc. His past comments are going to get lots of air time.
    Fox News confirmation was interesting. 
     
    Kelly's son was killed in Afghanistan.  He needs to go public if it was him. 
  • Biden
    I hope it doesn’t go away. But nothing seems
    to stick 
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  • cutz said:
    Interesting as Nixon ended the Vietnam War in 1973 but the secret war in Laos and Cambodia continued. 
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  • static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    edited September 2020
    Biden
    Those who might think that Team Trump Treason calling military folks losers and suckers is going to go away are making a mistake. This isn’t going away. Retired military, many 2nd, 3rd and 4th generation and Gold Star families are pissed. This is going to follow Team Trump Treason into and through the debates and up to Election Day. Look for heavy advertising regarding this issue in markets with a high % of military, both active duty and retired. Places like NC, FL, NV, VA, etc. His past comments are going to get lots of air time.
    Meh it’s really all allegations without someone credible corroborating that he made those statements.  If no one cared when he actually talked shit on McCain I don’t see an uncorroborated statement hurting him.
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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,425

    Trump’s Defenders: He Doesn’t Hate the Troops, He Just ‘Sounds Like an Asshole’



    https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps-defenders-he-doesnt-hate-the-troops-he-just-sounds-like-an-asshole

    Moving to phase "yeah, he said it, but he didn't really mean it"

    It's all so predictable.
  • static111 said:
    Meh it’s really all allegations without someone credible corroborating that he made those statements.  If no one cared when he actually talked shit on McCain I don’t see an uncorroborated statement hurting him.
    It’s not just the McCain statement though. It’s families of soldiers killed in the line of duty, it’s the Khan family statement and blowing off honoring US war dead on Remembrance Day. Veterans are pissed. As are families of the fallen.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,569
    Biden
    dankind said:
    I’m just going to leave this here. 



    Looks like not much has changed in the 15 years since I had to live near these people. 
    If I’m being honest, I don’t see how I wouldn’t have gone out and partied if my school was still open as an 18-21 year old. I blame the school more than the kids...
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,423
    Biden
    If I’m being honest, I don’t see how I wouldn’t have gone out and partied if my school was still open as an 18-21 year old. I blame the school more than the kids...
    My son's school is sending everyone home this weekend.  There were 500 cases, although only freshman live on campus so most were from the apartments and such.  My son missed his senior year, prom, graduation and now is getting sent home his second week in college.  And to top it off, we're fairly sure he has it.  Coming home tomorrow.  
  • mrussel1 said:
    My son's school is sending everyone home this weekend.  There were 500 cases, although only freshman live on campus so most were from the apartments and such.  My son missed his senior year, prom, graduation and now is getting sent home his second week in college.  And to top it off, we're fairly sure he has it.  Coming home tomorrow.  
    Jesus. Hoping for the best for you and yours and a great final result. Try to be well and hang in there.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,423
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    Jesus. Hoping for the best for you and yours and a great final result. Try to be well and hang in there.
    Thanks man.  I feel bad for him.  It's tough being a kid today, that's for sure. 
  • mrussel1 said:
    Thanks man.  I feel bad for him.  It's tough being a kid today, that's for sure. 
    Yea, the 16 to 22 year olds are really getting hosed on missing out on those once in a life time experiences. Hopefully they’ll be better for it. Fucked up times.

    I’ve had one dine in restaurant meal and haven’t sat at a bar since March. But I did buy a bicycle so there’s that. Still have my health but jeez, 410,000 dead by the holidays and I’m hoping it’s nobody on here or their families/loved ones. Crazy.

    Stay safe and positive chi your way.
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  • static111static111 Posts: 4,889
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    mrussel1 said:
    My son's school is sending everyone home this weekend.  There were 500 cases, although only freshman live on campus so most were from the apartments and such.  My son missed his senior year, prom, graduation and now is getting sent home his second week in college.  And to top it off, we're fairly sure he has it.  Coming home tomorrow.  
    Sorry to hear that best wishes for your family and that your son tests positive toward the negative.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,969
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    My son's school is sending everyone home this weekend.  There were 500 cases, although only freshman live on campus so most were from the apartments and such.  My son missed his senior year, prom, graduation and now is getting sent home his second week in college.  And to top it off, we're fairly sure he has it.  Coming home tomorrow.  

    Oh man, that absolutely sucks.  I'm very sorry to here all this.  Sending good vibes and thoughts.  Hang in there, kid, and my best to you and yours, M.
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  • mrussel1 said:
    My son's school is sending everyone home this weekend.  There were 500 cases, although only freshman live on campus so most were from the apartments and such.  My son missed his senior year, prom, graduation and now is getting sent home his second week in college.  And to top it off, we're fairly sure he has it.  Coming home tomorrow.  
    Oh man so sorry to hear this not much I can add except he will need you guys now more than ever , wishing you guys the best and I’ll keep fingers crossed that he doesn’t have it ((((((((((((()))))))))))))) positive vibes to you & family!

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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,423
    Biden
    Oh man so sorry to hear this not much I can add except he will need you guys now more than ever , wishing you guys the best and I’ll keep fingers crossed that he doesn’t have it ((((((((((((()))))))))))))) positive vibes to you & family!

    Thanks to everyone.  Last night his symptoms were very mild so hopefully it stays that way.  Your thoughts are appreciated.  
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 42,734
    edited September 2020
    Biden

    In Barr, Trump has powerful ally for challenging mail voting
    By ERIC TUCKER
    Yesterday

    WASHINGTON (AP) — As President Donald Trump sows doubt about the legitimacy of the 2020 election, he’s found a powerful partner in Attorney General William Barr.

    Like Trump, Barr has repeatedly sounded alarms about the November vote despite a lack of evidence pointing to pervasive problems with the process.

    That’s important — and worrisome to Democrats — because Barr is no ordinary Cabinet member. As head of the Justice Department, he can shape investigations into election interference and voting fraud. Though the department doesn't oversee elections, it could inject itself into court fights over disputed contests. And any statements from America’s top law enforcement officer questioning election results could further shake public confidence in the vote at a time of widespread disinformation and rumors.

    “Those who think that Barr is watching over the interests of Trump rather than the interests of the country have reason to be concerned that he would weaponize the Justice Department’s investigative authority to help Trump at least politically, if not legally, in any post-election challenge,” said Richard Hasen, an election law expert at the University of California, Irvine.


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  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 8,867
    I'm sitting this one out
    mrussel1 said:
    Thanks to everyone.  Last night his symptoms were very mild so hopefully it stays that way.  Your thoughts are appreciated.  
    Hope everyone is ok and it stays mild. Thoughts are with you 
  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 16,118
    edited September 2020
    Biden
    If I’m being honest, I don’t see how I wouldn’t have gone out and partied if my school was still open as an 18-21 year old. I blame the school more than the kids...

    No, the students are to blame.  They aren't kids.  They are adults that know better but are selfish.  Not everyone needed to get wasted every weekend in college. 
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,425

    No, the students are to blame.  They aren't kids.  They are adults that know better but are selfish.  Not everyone needed to get wasted every weekend in college. 
    Sounds like someone was never invited to the party.
  • KatKat Posts: 4,939
    Falling down,...not staying down
  • Kat said:
    If I’m Biden I’m talking about this every single day!

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  • This is a good breakdown of why Team Trump Treason’s denigrating the military is going to hurt him and be an issue going forward. It’s never been a one off gaffe. There’s too many instances that we’ve witnessed with what’s been reported privately. And they’re all plausible.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/04/politics/donald-trump-military-the-atlantic-story/index.html
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  • Captain Sully is speaking out about Team Trump Treason’s military comments now, encouraging folks to vote Sleepy Woke Joe.
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,449
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    Captain Sully is speaking out about Team Trump Treason’s military comments now, encouraging folks to vote Sleepy Woke Joe.
    I like pilots that land on runways, not water.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,423
    Biden
    OnWis97 said:
    I like pilots that land on runways, not water.
    Honestly,  that is so great.  Nicely done. 
  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,150
    mrussel1 said:
    Yeah I don't think I agree with you.  He went to a working class  part of Pitt, in western PA. That's not really a liberal enclave.  It's not like he spoke at Carnegie Mellon. There's no point in going to a rural county.  You still have to go where people live which is generally going to be urban areas.  The question is where in the urban areas do you go. 

    That weird, I read he did give the speech at Carnegie Mellon. Either way, It was in the city which is about the only west PA county to vote for Hillary.

    Since Biden is doing very few public appearances he needs to be more surgical on location. He needs to hit swing locations, not swing states.  Best bet is to campaign in Obama Trump counties.
  • static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    Biden
    So this is stuff that is floating around on LinkedIn....these guys are all in against Biden even if they don’t love trump..because the socialists are coming.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,423
    Biden
    static111 said:
    So this is stuff that is floating around on LinkedIn....these guys are all in against Biden even if they don’t love trump..because the socialists are coming.
    Nothing is lower class or looked down upon like someone using Linked for political posts.  It's trash people. 
  • static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    Nothing is lower class or looked down upon like someone using Linked for political posts.  It's trash people. 
    They still vote and there are still a lot of them unfortunately. I agree about LinkedIn not being the place for political posts, but it still comes up more often than it should and quite often in trumps favor....
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