Biden vs Trump 2020 - vote now and discuss!

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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    mrussel1 said:
    dignin said:
    mrussel1 said:
    “I want to be very clear about all of this — rioting is not protesting,” Biden said. “Looting is not protesting. Setting fires is not protesting. None of this is protesting. It’s lawlessness, plain and simple. And those who do it should be prosecuted. Violence will not bring change, it will only bring destruction. It’s wrong in every way, it divides instead of unites.”
    That's not enough!!!

    I need to see Joe Biden in hand to hand combat with at least 10 protesters before I could consider believing him. Otherwise this is just political opportunism, because I know deep down he is an antifa plant!
    Actually the counter I get is.. "well he's just a figurehead, it doesn't matter what he believes".  Sure..sure. 
    That deep state is deep.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,981
    Biden
    dignin said:
    mrussel1 said:
    dignin said:
    mrussel1 said:
    “I want to be very clear about all of this — rioting is not protesting,” Biden said. “Looting is not protesting. Setting fires is not protesting. None of this is protesting. It’s lawlessness, plain and simple. And those who do it should be prosecuted. Violence will not bring change, it will only bring destruction. It’s wrong in every way, it divides instead of unites.”
    That's not enough!!!

    I need to see Joe Biden in hand to hand combat with at least 10 protesters before I could consider believing him. Otherwise this is just political opportunism, because I know deep down he is an antifa plant!
    Actually the counter I get is.. "well he's just a figurehead, it doesn't matter what he believes".  Sure..sure. 
    That deep state is deep.
    That's the beauty of conspiracy theories.  Doesn't matter how crazy or unhinged the argument because logic was disposed long ago.  It's bulletproof. 
  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,696
    edited August 2020
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    dignin said:
    mrussel1 said:
    “I want to be very clear about all of this — rioting is not protesting,” Biden said. “Looting is not protesting. Setting fires is not protesting. None of this is protesting. It’s lawlessness, plain and simple. And those who do it should be prosecuted. Violence will not bring change, it will only bring destruction. It’s wrong in every way, it divides instead of unites.”
    That's not enough!!!

    I need to see Joe Biden in hand to hand combat with at least 10 protesters before I could consider believing him. Otherwise this is just political opportunism, because I know deep down he is an antifa plant!
    Actually the counter I get is.. "well he's just a figurehead, it doesn't matter what he believes".  Sure..sure. 

    Oh yeah.  And it's not Harris waiting until the codger hangs it up that's controlling him.  It's a whole bunch of men, women, blacks, whites, Asians, Jews, atheists, Christians, Hollywood types, kids, etc.* that are leading him down the most socialistic road ever. A road paved with the credit cards of the hard-working; a road going right through their very living rooms; to be walked on by some very, um, unsavory people grabbing furniture, cash, and their very way of life.  Europe is going to seem positively capitalistic by comparison.  Enjoy handing your stuff directly to lazy people who don't want to work! I cannot overSTATE how DEEP it runs!

    *The scary libtard version of four white guys in a a room.
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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 10,034
    AKRounder85 said:
    Trump is reported betting favorite as of 8/28 at -120 at most sportsbooks. 1st time since May. MyBookie had him at -140

    He won in 2016 at +300-something underdog.

    Although polls are 1 factor in the influence of the betting odds, I find betting odds to be more accurate then the polls...
    I don't know anything about bookies and betting outside a casino floor and some horse racing, but aren't the odds 100% determined from bets made, not polls or anything else? They have to guarantee they make some money no matter what the outcome.
    I believe that's how it works with horse racing, if everyone bets on the same horse you pretty much just win your money back, I assumed it was the same for everything.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,981
    edited August 2020
    Biden
    mace1229 said:
    AKRounder85 said:
    Trump is reported betting favorite as of 8/28 at -120 at most sportsbooks. 1st time since May. MyBookie had him at -140

    He won in 2016 at +300-something underdog.

    Although polls are 1 factor in the influence of the betting odds, I find betting odds to be more accurate then the polls...
    I don't know anything about bookies and betting outside a casino floor and some horse racing, but aren't the odds 100% determined from bets made, not polls or anything else? They have to guarantee they make some money no matter what the outcome.
    I believe that's how it works with horse racing, if everyone bets on the same horse you pretty much just win your money back, I assumed it was the same for everything.
    Yes the odds move based on the action.  The action must be trending to Trump 
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,130
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    dignin said:
    mrussel1 said:
    “I want to be very clear about all of this — rioting is not protesting,” Biden said. “Looting is not protesting. Setting fires is not protesting. None of this is protesting. It’s lawlessness, plain and simple. And those who do it should be prosecuted. Violence will not bring change, it will only bring destruction. It’s wrong in every way, it divides instead of unites.”
    That's not enough!!!

    I need to see Joe Biden in hand to hand combat with at least 10 protesters before I could consider believing him. Otherwise this is just political opportunism, because I know deep down he is an antifa plant!
    Actually the counter I get is.. "well he's just a figurehead, it doesn't matter what he believes".  Sure..sure. 

    Oh yeah.  And it's not Harris waiting until the codger hangs it up that's controlling him.  It's a whole bunch of men, women, blacks, whites, Asians, Jews, atheists, Christians, Hollywood types, kids, etc.* that are leading him down the most socialistic road ever. A road paved with the credit cards of the hard-working; a road going right through their very living rooms; to be walked on by some very, um, unsavory people grabbing furniture, cash, and their very way of life.  Europe is going to seem positively capitalistic by comparison.  Enjoy handing your stuff directly to lazy people who don't want to work! I cannot overSTATE how DEEP it runs!

    *The scary libtard version of four white guys in a a room.
    You mean its not Soros?
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  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    Biden
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    It's so silly its stupid.  Hannity will say it but he's just preaching to the choir.  It's a prank, like a less clever "Santorum "
    Whatever you say. I'm just stating the fact of the matter: Antifa.com redirects to Joebiden.com

    And according to this website, it's been redirecting to Biden's site since early August, and per the internet wayback machine, it had regular Antifa propaganda on it as late as July 24th

    https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/08/30/fact-check-antifa-com-does-really-take-you-directly-to-bidens-campaign-site-many-are-asking-why-966463?ocid=uxbndlbing
    Anyone can buy a domain name and link it to anything. I was going to buy cult45.com and link it to Trump's site, but someone already bought it and parked it, and will try to sell it at a markup through a domain name broker. So I tried http://fascism2020.com/ and it turns out someone else already bought that and redirected it to Trump's website. My point is that just because a domain name redirects to a website doesn't mean the website owner owns the domain name, or endorses it. I'm betting Trump's org didn't actually buy fascism2020.com, just as I'm certain that Biden had nothing to do with antifa.com. Just Internet pranks that cost $15 to pull off for the year.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,021
    Biden
    jeffbr said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    It's so silly its stupid.  Hannity will say it but he's just preaching to the choir.  It's a prank, like a less clever "Santorum "
    Whatever you say. I'm just stating the fact of the matter: Antifa.com redirects to Joebiden.com

    And according to this website, it's been redirecting to Biden's site since early August, and per the internet wayback machine, it had regular Antifa propaganda on it as late as July 24th

    https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/08/30/fact-check-antifa-com-does-really-take-you-directly-to-bidens-campaign-site-many-are-asking-why-966463?ocid=uxbndlbing
    Anyone can buy a domain name and link it to anything. I was going to buy cult45.com and link it to Trump's site, but someone already bought it and parked it, and will try to sell it at a markup through a domain name broker. So I tried http://fascism2020.com/ and it turns out someone else already bought that and redirected it to Trump's website. My point is that just because a domain name redirects to a website doesn't mean the website owner owns the domain name, or endorses it. I'm betting Trump's org didn't actually buy fascism2020.com, just as I'm certain that Biden had nothing to do with antifa.com. Just Internet pranks that cost $15 to pull off for the year.
    we all know that. a lot of dummies out there (who also vote) don't. that's the point. 
    Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer



  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,981
    Biden
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    jeffbr said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    It's so silly its stupid.  Hannity will say it but he's just preaching to the choir.  It's a prank, like a less clever "Santorum "
    Whatever you say. I'm just stating the fact of the matter: Antifa.com redirects to Joebiden.com

    And according to this website, it's been redirecting to Biden's site since early August, and per the internet wayback machine, it had regular Antifa propaganda on it as late as July 24th

    https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/08/30/fact-check-antifa-com-does-really-take-you-directly-to-bidens-campaign-site-many-are-asking-why-966463?ocid=uxbndlbing
    Anyone can buy a domain name and link it to anything. I was going to buy cult45.com and link it to Trump's site, but someone already bought it and parked it, and will try to sell it at a markup through a domain name broker. So I tried http://fascism2020.com/ and it turns out someone else already bought that and redirected it to Trump's website. My point is that just because a domain name redirects to a website doesn't mean the website owner owns the domain name, or endorses it. I'm betting Trump's org didn't actually buy fascism2020.com, just as I'm certain that Biden had nothing to do with antifa.com. Just Internet pranks that cost $15 to pull off for the year.
    we all know that. a lot of dummies out there (who also vote) don't. that's the point. 
    They're already voting Trump
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,021
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    jeffbr said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    It's so silly its stupid.  Hannity will say it but he's just preaching to the choir.  It's a prank, like a less clever "Santorum "
    Whatever you say. I'm just stating the fact of the matter: Antifa.com redirects to Joebiden.com

    And according to this website, it's been redirecting to Biden's site since early August, and per the internet wayback machine, it had regular Antifa propaganda on it as late as July 24th

    https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/08/30/fact-check-antifa-com-does-really-take-you-directly-to-bidens-campaign-site-many-are-asking-why-966463?ocid=uxbndlbing
    Anyone can buy a domain name and link it to anything. I was going to buy cult45.com and link it to Trump's site, but someone already bought it and parked it, and will try to sell it at a markup through a domain name broker. So I tried http://fascism2020.com/ and it turns out someone else already bought that and redirected it to Trump's website. My point is that just because a domain name redirects to a website doesn't mean the website owner owns the domain name, or endorses it. I'm betting Trump's org didn't actually buy fascism2020.com, just as I'm certain that Biden had nothing to do with antifa.com. Just Internet pranks that cost $15 to pull off for the year.
    we all know that. a lot of dummies out there (who also vote) don't. that's the point. 
    They're already voting Trump
    oh come on. you don't think there are people ignorant of this stuff in the middle or the left?
    Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer



  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    jeffbr said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    It's so silly its stupid.  Hannity will say it but he's just preaching to the choir.  It's a prank, like a less clever "Santorum "
    Whatever you say. I'm just stating the fact of the matter: Antifa.com redirects to Joebiden.com

    And according to this website, it's been redirecting to Biden's site since early August, and per the internet wayback machine, it had regular Antifa propaganda on it as late as July 24th

    https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/08/30/fact-check-antifa-com-does-really-take-you-directly-to-bidens-campaign-site-many-are-asking-why-966463?ocid=uxbndlbing
    Anyone can buy a domain name and link it to anything. I was going to buy cult45.com and link it to Trump's site, but someone already bought it and parked it, and will try to sell it at a markup through a domain name broker. So I tried http://fascism2020.com/ and it turns out someone else already bought that and redirected it to Trump's website. My point is that just because a domain name redirects to a website doesn't mean the website owner owns the domain name, or endorses it. I'm betting Trump's org didn't actually buy fascism2020.com, just as I'm certain that Biden had nothing to do with antifa.com. Just Internet pranks that cost $15 to pull off for the year.
    we all know that. a lot of dummies out there (who also vote) don't. that's the point. 
    They're already voting Trump
    Exactly. And if one of those dummies points out the antifa.com site, I'll point out fascism2020.com. I guess I don't understand why the topic generated as much discussion as it did, if people already know this. I saw the antifa.com thing and shrugged my shoulders. I didn't realize people were that gullible, but I suppose gullible and cult45 are synonymous. 
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,021
    Biden
    jeffbr said:
    mrussel1 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    jeffbr said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    It's so silly its stupid.  Hannity will say it but he's just preaching to the choir.  It's a prank, like a less clever "Santorum "
    Whatever you say. I'm just stating the fact of the matter: Antifa.com redirects to Joebiden.com

    And according to this website, it's been redirecting to Biden's site since early August, and per the internet wayback machine, it had regular Antifa propaganda on it as late as July 24th

    https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/08/30/fact-check-antifa-com-does-really-take-you-directly-to-bidens-campaign-site-many-are-asking-why-966463?ocid=uxbndlbing
    Anyone can buy a domain name and link it to anything. I was going to buy cult45.com and link it to Trump's site, but someone already bought it and parked it, and will try to sell it at a markup through a domain name broker. So I tried http://fascism2020.com/ and it turns out someone else already bought that and redirected it to Trump's website. My point is that just because a domain name redirects to a website doesn't mean the website owner owns the domain name, or endorses it. I'm betting Trump's org didn't actually buy fascism2020.com, just as I'm certain that Biden had nothing to do with antifa.com. Just Internet pranks that cost $15 to pull off for the year.
    we all know that. a lot of dummies out there (who also vote) don't. that's the point. 
    They're already voting Trump
    Exactly. And if one of those dummies points out the antifa.com site, I'll point out fascism2020.com. I guess I don't understand why the topic generated as much discussion as it did, if people already know this. I saw the antifa.com thing and shrugged my shoulders. I didn't realize people were that gullible, but I suppose gullible and cult45 are synonymous. 
    ignorance is not the same as gullible. some folks are coming off as pretty arrogant here. my parents are both smart people. but they are in their 70's, and they vote, usually the left, sometimes middle and ocasionally conservative. if they were told by a friend or saw it online, they wouldn't know the ins and outs of it. 
    Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer



  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,981
    Biden
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mrussel1 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    jeffbr said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    It's so silly its stupid.  Hannity will say it but he's just preaching to the choir.  It's a prank, like a less clever "Santorum "
    Whatever you say. I'm just stating the fact of the matter: Antifa.com redirects to Joebiden.com

    And according to this website, it's been redirecting to Biden's site since early August, and per the internet wayback machine, it had regular Antifa propaganda on it as late as July 24th

    https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/08/30/fact-check-antifa-com-does-really-take-you-directly-to-bidens-campaign-site-many-are-asking-why-966463?ocid=uxbndlbing
    Anyone can buy a domain name and link it to anything. I was going to buy cult45.com and link it to Trump's site, but someone already bought it and parked it, and will try to sell it at a markup through a domain name broker. So I tried http://fascism2020.com/ and it turns out someone else already bought that and redirected it to Trump's website. My point is that just because a domain name redirects to a website doesn't mean the website owner owns the domain name, or endorses it. I'm betting Trump's org didn't actually buy fascism2020.com, just as I'm certain that Biden had nothing to do with antifa.com. Just Internet pranks that cost $15 to pull off for the year.
    we all know that. a lot of dummies out there (who also vote) don't. that's the point. 
    They're already voting Trump
    oh come on. you don't think there are people ignorant of this stuff in the middle or the left?
    Not so ignorant that they will say... wow Biden supports Antifa, I guess I'm voting Trump now!  
    Are there plenty of left/ center people who don't understand how redirection works? Sure.  Are they potential Biden voters who are watching Hannity? Probably not a lot.  
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,021
    Biden
    sorry, i guess i forgot that internet savvy was only attributable to the left. 
    Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer



  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,981
    Biden
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    sorry, i guess i forgot that internet savvy was only attributable to the left. 
    No, I said before that Hannity is preaching to the choir on the right.  We're talking about moving votes, not convincing Trump voters that they should vote more emphatically.  So the internet savvy of the Trump voter is not really relevant here. 
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,021
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    sorry, i guess i forgot that internet savvy was only attributable to the left. 
    No, I said before that Hannity is preaching to the choir on the right.  We're talking about moving votes, not convincing Trump voters that they should vote more emphatically.  So the internet savvy of the Trump voter is not really relevant here. 
    the point is it's not just hannity that's going to report something like this. initially, maybe, but then word of mouth/word of social media takes hold. and people believe a LOT of shit they see on social media. 

    it wasn't long ago i was still getting "bill gates will send you x amount of money if you forward this email" from people of all political persuasions of a certain age group. 
    Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer



  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,981
    Biden
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mrussel1 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    sorry, i guess i forgot that internet savvy was only attributable to the left. 
    No, I said before that Hannity is preaching to the choir on the right.  We're talking about moving votes, not convincing Trump voters that they should vote more emphatically.  So the internet savvy of the Trump voter is not really relevant here. 
    the point is it's not just hannity that's going to report something like this. initially, maybe, but then word of mouth/word of social media takes hold. and people believe a LOT of shit they see on social media. 

    it wasn't long ago i was still getting "bill gates will send you x amount of money if you forward this email" from people of all political persuasions of a certain age group. 
    I think this has been giving way more attention than it deserves.  It's a prank that's been in place for a month evidently.  I really don't think this is moving an election needle.  Kanye is way more of a threat
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,021
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mrussel1 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    sorry, i guess i forgot that internet savvy was only attributable to the left. 
    No, I said before that Hannity is preaching to the choir on the right.  We're talking about moving votes, not convincing Trump voters that they should vote more emphatically.  So the internet savvy of the Trump voter is not really relevant here. 
    the point is it's not just hannity that's going to report something like this. initially, maybe, but then word of mouth/word of social media takes hold. and people believe a LOT of shit they see on social media. 

    it wasn't long ago i was still getting "bill gates will send you x amount of money if you forward this email" from people of all political persuasions of a certain age group. 
    I think this has been giving way more attention than it deserves.  It's a prank that's been in place for a month evidently.  I really don't think this is moving an election needle.  Kanye is way more of a threat
    you could be right. i hope so. but sometimes these things can take on a life of their own, without prediction. 
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,599
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mrussel1 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    sorry, i guess i forgot that internet savvy was only attributable to the left. 
    No, I said before that Hannity is preaching to the choir on the right.  We're talking about moving votes, not convincing Trump voters that they should vote more emphatically.  So the internet savvy of the Trump voter is not really relevant here. 
    the point is it's not just hannity that's going to report something like this. initially, maybe, but then word of mouth/word of social media takes hold. and people believe a LOT of shit they see on social media. 

    it wasn't long ago i was still getting "bill gates will send you x amount of money if you forward this email" from people of all political persuasions of a certain age group. 
    I think this has been giving way more attention than it deserves.  It's a prank that's been in place for a month evidently.  I really don't think this is moving an election needle.  Kanye is way more of a threat
    This is complete and total non issue, fellas. 
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,981
    Biden
    Military numbers trending towards Biden. 

    https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2020/08/31/as-trumps-popularity-slips-in-latest-military-times-poll-more-troops-say-theyll-vote-for-biden/

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