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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,597
    That’s negative 
    not sure which Fox News you watch 


    How’s the healthcare program he promised 4 years ago coming along or the release of his taxes! Your orange hero is by far thee worst human to ever occupy the WH, it’s not even close..
    The Healthcare plan is coming in a couple of weeks. 
    Right after the infrastructure plan.
    And right before something is done about russian bounties on American soldiers 
    I’m more excited for the vaccine that’s to be here in a couple of weeks! Can’t wait to be able to just go into desolate Manhattan to walk into a pub and enjoy a cold beer and high five everyone there.
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 28,523
    Biden
    The covid vaccine and new health care plan will be announced on the same day.  I'm thinking next Tuesday.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,289
    Biden
    Taxes next Tuesday as well?
    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 28,523
    Biden
    Taxes next Tuesday as well?
    Yes. Also on the same day Ten club will  be accepting preorders of Benny vinyl and all the 98 posters.   
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • I'm sitting this one out
    https://youtu.be/NILNraMlO5E
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,534
    edited October 2020
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,374
    I'm not sure what in that Fox article is fake news or a lie. And don't know why everyone seems to just dismiss the computer. Its been verified, the shop owner has receipts of the drop off. The business partner of Hunter has confirmed the email is real. Biden hasn't said its fake, except for the first time last night saying it was from Russia, but that took a week.
    You can think the business partner is lying and that the shop owner forged everything I guess. But its still facts that they have verified its existence. 
    And yes, the timing is suspicious. But not really. The business owner who had the computer is an open Trump supporter, and after notifying law enforcement he gave a copy to Rudy, knowing it would go public. Its a lot like that video of Trump and TMZ 4 years ago, they sat on it until about this time. So is it really that surprising?

    Despite many comments I see here, criticizing Biden, even thinking he may have some shady dealings, doesn't mean you think Trump is flawless. But its interesting seeing how this story is being ignored and brushed aside buried compared to anything that comes out against Trump from unverified, anonymous sources.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,068
    edited October 2020
    mace1229 said:
    I'm not sure what in that Fox article is fake news or a lie. And don't know why everyone seems to just dismiss the computer. Its been verified, the shop owner has receipts of the drop off. The business partner of Hunter has confirmed the email is real. Biden hasn't said its fake, except for the first time last night saying it was from Russia, but that took a week.
    You can think the business partner is lying and that the shop owner forged everything I guess. But its still facts that they have verified its existence. 
    And yes, the timing is suspicious. But not really. The business owner who had the computer is an open Trump supporter, and after notifying law enforcement he gave a copy to Rudy, knowing it would go public. Its a lot like that video of Trump and TMZ 4 years ago, they sat on it until about this time. So is it really that surprising?

    Despite many comments I see here, criticizing Biden, even thinking he may have some shady dealings, doesn't mean you think Trump is flawless. But its interesting seeing how this story is being ignored and brushed aside buried compared to anything that comes out against Trump from unverified, anonymous sources.
    https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/documents/report_volume5.pdf

    And what, exactly, has come out against Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat, from unverified, anonymous sources in the last 5 years of his sordid history?
    Post edited by Halifax2TheMax on
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,047
    Biden
    mace1229 said:
    I'm not sure what in that Fox article is fake news or a lie. And don't know why everyone seems to just dismiss the computer. Its been verified, the shop owner has receipts of the drop off. The business partner of Hunter has confirmed the email is real. Biden hasn't said its fake, except for the first time last night saying it was from Russia, but that took a week.
    You can think the business partner is lying and that the shop owner forged everything I guess. But its still facts that they have verified its existence. 
    And yes, the timing is suspicious. But not really. The business owner who had the computer is an open Trump supporter, and after notifying law enforcement he gave a copy to Rudy, knowing it would go public. Its a lot like that video of Trump and TMZ 4 years ago, they sat on it until about this time. So is it really that surprising?

    Despite many comments I see here, criticizing Biden, even thinking he may have some shady dealings, doesn't mean you think Trump is flawless. But its interesting seeing how this story is being ignored and brushed aside buried compared to anything that comes out against Trump from unverified, anonymous sources.
    haven't intelligence officials already looked at it and debunked it as russian propaganda?
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,072
    Biden
    Question:

    If everyone who has a child who did something or might have done something wrong was disqualified from their job because of that, how many more people would become unemployed or unemployable?

    This Hunter Biden thing is a sheer act of desperation by a losing party.
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  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,429
    edited October 2020
    mace1229 said:
    I'm not sure what in that Fox article is fake news or a lie. And don't know why everyone seems to just dismiss the computer. Its been verified, the shop owner has receipts of the drop off. The business partner of Hunter has confirmed the email is real. Biden hasn't said its fake, except for the first time last night saying it was from Russia, but that took a week.
    You can think the business partner is lying and that the shop owner forged everything I guess. But its still facts that they have verified its existence. 
    And yes, the timing is suspicious. But not really. The business owner who had the computer is an open Trump supporter, and after notifying law enforcement he gave a copy to Rudy, knowing it would go public. Its a lot like that video of Trump and TMZ 4 years ago, they sat on it until about this time. So is it really that surprising?

    Despite many comments I see here, criticizing Biden, even thinking he may have some shady dealings, doesn't mean you think Trump is flawless. But its interesting seeing how this story is being ignored and brushed aside buried compared to anything that comes out against Trump from unverified, anonymous sources.

    You don’t find it mildly suspicious that it makes Rudy out to be a hero just days before the release of  movie that features him fondling his dingaling. EDIT: not sure if he was married at the time of filming or not. 
    Post edited by DewieCox on
  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,374
    mace1229 said:
    I'm not sure what in that Fox article is fake news or a lie. And don't know why everyone seems to just dismiss the computer. Its been verified, the shop owner has receipts of the drop off. The business partner of Hunter has confirmed the email is real. Biden hasn't said its fake, except for the first time last night saying it was from Russia, but that took a week.
    You can think the business partner is lying and that the shop owner forged everything I guess. But its still facts that they have verified its existence. 
    And yes, the timing is suspicious. But not really. The business owner who had the computer is an open Trump supporter, and after notifying law enforcement he gave a copy to Rudy, knowing it would go public. Its a lot like that video of Trump and TMZ 4 years ago, they sat on it until about this time. So is it really that surprising?

    Despite many comments I see here, criticizing Biden, even thinking he may have some shady dealings, doesn't mean you think Trump is flawless. But its interesting seeing how this story is being ignored and brushed aside buried compared to anything that comes out against Trump from unverified, anonymous sources.
    haven't intelligence officials already looked at it and debunked it as russian propaganda?
    I haven't heard, but probably. I mean, there's almost no doubt it's real. To call it Russian interference is a joke. But I still heard this morning the CBS news referred to the laptop and emails as unverified. That's only when they even talk about it, they only mentioned it in reference to the debate, otherwise they wouldn't have even brought it up. But an unverified anonymous source says Trump called a veteran a loser is headline news for a week.
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,534
    edited October 2020
    I'm sitting this one out
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    I'm not sure what in that Fox article is fake news or a lie. And don't know why everyone seems to just dismiss the computer. Its been verified, the shop owner has receipts of the drop off. The business partner of Hunter has confirmed the email is real. Biden hasn't said its fake, except for the first time last night saying it was from Russia, but that took a week.
    You can think the business partner is lying and that the shop owner forged everything I guess. But its still facts that they have verified its existence. 
    And yes, the timing is suspicious. But not really. The business owner who had the computer is an open Trump supporter, and after notifying law enforcement he gave a copy to Rudy, knowing it would go public. Its a lot like that video of Trump and TMZ 4 years ago, they sat on it until about this time. So is it really that surprising?

    Despite many comments I see here, criticizing Biden, even thinking he may have some shady dealings, doesn't mean you think Trump is flawless. But its interesting seeing how this story is being ignored and brushed aside buried compared to anything that comes out against Trump from unverified, anonymous sources.
    haven't intelligence officials already looked at it and debunked it as russian propaganda?
    I haven't heard, but probably. I mean, there's almost no doubt it's real. To call it Russian interference is a joke. But I still heard this morning the CBS news referred to the laptop and emails as unverified. That's only when they even talk about it, they only mentioned it in reference to the debate, otherwise they wouldn't have even brought it up. But an unverified anonymous source says Trump called a veteran a loser is headline news for a week.
    Some confirmation bias going on here with you Mace
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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,820
    edited October 2020
    Biden
    C'mon now, everyone knows both sides. I don't think I can vote for Hunter now. Thank goodness for that empathetic, sincere and loving first family who have never made a mistake or done anything wrong and when they have they've been completely up front and apologized. God bless them.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    I'm not sure what in that Fox article is fake news or a lie. And don't know why everyone seems to just dismiss the computer. Its been verified, the shop owner has receipts of the drop off. The business partner of Hunter has confirmed the email is real. Biden hasn't said its fake, except for the first time last night saying it was from Russia, but that took a week.
    You can think the business partner is lying and that the shop owner forged everything I guess. But its still facts that they have verified its existence. 
    And yes, the timing is suspicious. But not really. The business owner who had the computer is an open Trump supporter, and after notifying law enforcement he gave a copy to Rudy, knowing it would go public. Its a lot like that video of Trump and TMZ 4 years ago, they sat on it until about this time. So is it really that surprising?

    Despite many comments I see here, criticizing Biden, even thinking he may have some shady dealings, doesn't mean you think Trump is flawless. But its interesting seeing how this story is being ignored and brushed aside buried compared to anything that comes out against Trump from unverified, anonymous sources.
    haven't intelligence officials already looked at it and debunked it as russian propaganda?
    I haven't heard, but probably. I mean, there's almost no doubt it's real. To call it Russian interference is a joke. But I still heard this morning the CBS news referred to the laptop and emails as unverified. That's only when they even talk about it, they only mentioned it in reference to the debate, otherwise they wouldn't have even brought it up. But an unverified anonymous source says Trump called a veteran a loser is headline news for a week.
    Some confirmation bias going on here with you Mace
    Some? Haha.
  • Hey, well, since Sleepy Woke Joe Basement Biden was VP when Hillary was SoS, we might as well re-open her email and Benghazi investigations. Just to be sure Hunter didn’t steer any kind of business to China or Ukraine.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,072
    Biden
    tbergs said:
    C'mon now, everyone knows both sides. I don't think I can vote for Hunter now. Thank goodness for that empathetic, sincere and loving first family who have never made a mistake or done anything wrong and when they have they've been completely up front and apologized. God bless them.

    LOL, yes, they are children of light aren't they. :wink:
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  • I'm sitting this one out
    People wanted a reason to dislike Hillary even more - emails gave them a reason
    Doubt people want to dislike Joe Biden more - no one will care about whatever shit they try to make stick
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,774
    Biden
    People wanted a reason to dislike Hillary even more - emails gave them a reason
    Doubt people want to dislike Joe Biden more - no one will care about whatever shit they try to make stick
    If people don't care about a lying,  misogynistic,  narcissistic,  racist, tax cheating xenophobe 

    Why should they care about what Hunter Biden may or may not have done?
  • darwinstheorydarwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 6,486
    Biden
    People wanted a reason to dislike Hillary even more - emails gave them a reason
    Doubt people want to dislike Joe Biden more - no one will care about whatever shit they try to make stick
    If people don't care about a lying,  misogynistic,  narcissistic,  racist, tax cheating xenophobe 

    Why should they care about what Hunter Biden may or may not have done?
    Easy. To own the libs!
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,374
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    I'm not sure what in that Fox article is fake news or a lie. And don't know why everyone seems to just dismiss the computer. Its been verified, the shop owner has receipts of the drop off. The business partner of Hunter has confirmed the email is real. Biden hasn't said its fake, except for the first time last night saying it was from Russia, but that took a week.
    You can think the business partner is lying and that the shop owner forged everything I guess. But its still facts that they have verified its existence. 
    And yes, the timing is suspicious. But not really. The business owner who had the computer is an open Trump supporter, and after notifying law enforcement he gave a copy to Rudy, knowing it would go public. Its a lot like that video of Trump and TMZ 4 years ago, they sat on it until about this time. So is it really that surprising?

    Despite many comments I see here, criticizing Biden, even thinking he may have some shady dealings, doesn't mean you think Trump is flawless. But its interesting seeing how this story is being ignored and brushed aside buried compared to anything that comes out against Trump from unverified, anonymous sources.
    haven't intelligence officials already looked at it and debunked it as russian propaganda?
    I haven't heard, but probably. I mean, there's almost no doubt it's real. To call it Russian interference is a joke. But I still heard this morning the CBS news referred to the laptop and emails as unverified. That's only when they even talk about it, they only mentioned it in reference to the debate, otherwise they wouldn't have even brought it up. But an unverified anonymous source says Trump called a veteran a loser is headline news for a week.
    Some confirmation bias going on here with you Mace
    How so? The laptop is real, its been verified. People are pretending its still fake news and from Russia. Where is the bias?
  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,374
    DewieCox said:
    mace1229 said:
    I'm not sure what in that Fox article is fake news or a lie. And don't know why everyone seems to just dismiss the computer. Its been verified, the shop owner has receipts of the drop off. The business partner of Hunter has confirmed the email is real. Biden hasn't said its fake, except for the first time last night saying it was from Russia, but that took a week.
    You can think the business partner is lying and that the shop owner forged everything I guess. But its still facts that they have verified its existence. 
    And yes, the timing is suspicious. But not really. The business owner who had the computer is an open Trump supporter, and after notifying law enforcement he gave a copy to Rudy, knowing it would go public. Its a lot like that video of Trump and TMZ 4 years ago, they sat on it until about this time. So is it really that surprising?

    Despite many comments I see here, criticizing Biden, even thinking he may have some shady dealings, doesn't mean you think Trump is flawless. But its interesting seeing how this story is being ignored and brushed aside buried compared to anything that comes out against Trump from unverified, anonymous sources.

    You don’t find it mildly suspicious that it makes Rudy out to be a hero just days before the release of  movie that features him fondling his dingaling. EDIT: not sure if he was married at the time of filming or not. 
    I don't think this had anything to do with the movie. I assume thats been in works a while. The timing was obviously political to hurt Joe, of course. But thats how these things often work. But convenient timing doesn't make it fake.
  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,374
    brianlux said:
    Question:

    If everyone who has a child who did something or might have done something wrong was disqualified from their job because of that, how many more people would become unemployed or unemployable?

    This Hunter Biden thing is a sheer act of desperation by a losing party.
    Its not about Hunter. Most don't really care about him. But his former partner has admitted that Joe was referenced in some of those emails. And if that's true, wouldn;t you want to know?
  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,820
    Biden
    mace1229 said:
    brianlux said:
    Question:

    If everyone who has a child who did something or might have done something wrong was disqualified from their job because of that, how many more people would become unemployed or unemployable?

    This Hunter Biden thing is a sheer act of desperation by a losing party.
    Its not about Hunter. Most don't really care about him. But his former partner has admitted that Joe was referenced in some of those emails. And if that's true, wouldn;t you want to know?
    Oh Christ, more email conspiracy bullshit.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,374
    I just find it funny I mentioned a few facts. The laptop has a paper trail back to Hunter. His former partner has confirmed the emails are real. And that somehow means I think Trump is perfect, I'm clearly bias, means I don't care about anything Trump does wrong.

    Why only the extremes? I don't like Trump. He's embarrassing and has done things I don't agree with. I can say that and still be critical of others. Seems like many hear have to defend Biden at all costs or it means you're hard for Trump.
  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,149
    Biden
    People wanted a reason to dislike Hillary even more - emails gave them a reason
    Doubt people want to dislike Joe Biden more - no one will care about whatever shit they try to make stick
    If people don't care about a lying,  misogynistic,  narcissistic,  racist, tax cheating xenophobe 

    Why should they care about what Hunter Biden may or may not have done?
    This sums up nicely how for all the whining the entire right does about the "MSM," They've really gone easy on Trump. The New York Times is practically his best friend. His nuttiness gives him free air time.  The media's been fascinated with him for decades and really haven't called him out on his connections to Epstein (which are many; some appointed through his administration), the nepotism (four family members working in the White House and a bunch of donors getting cushy positions and bringing them down from the inside), his history of associating with Russian mobsters, his fascination with (and jealousy of) dictators, his live as a disastrous "businessman," The 20 or so rape allegations (including a 13 year old) that have amounted to a bit less press than Tara Reade...etc.

    ...and Hunter's laptop is going to be the "reopening the investigation" of 2020. 

    Enemy of the people, indeed...
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,374
    tbergs said:
    mace1229 said:
    brianlux said:
    Question:

    If everyone who has a child who did something or might have done something wrong was disqualified from their job because of that, how many more people would become unemployed or unemployable?

    This Hunter Biden thing is a sheer act of desperation by a losing party.
    Its not about Hunter. Most don't really care about him. But his former partner has admitted that Joe was referenced in some of those emails. And if that's true, wouldn;t you want to know?
    Oh Christ, more email conspiracy bullshit.
    This has nothing to do with Hilary, so its not "more email conspiracy." DO you deny the laptop has been confirmed? DO you deny the emails have been confirmed? If so, why? If not, then why don't you care?
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,774
    Biden
    People wanted a reason to dislike Hillary even more - emails gave them a reason
    Doubt people want to dislike Joe Biden more - no one will care about whatever shit they try to make stick
    If people don't care about a lying,  misogynistic,  narcissistic,  racist, tax cheating xenophobe 

    Why should they care about what Hunter Biden may or may not have done?
    Easy. To own the libs!
    Whoops
    Forgot that owning libs takes precedence over doing what is right for Americans and America.
  • “Was you there,” in the words of the esteemed repub member of the house impeachment committee.

    There is a key word being left out in front of “facts,” and that’s “purported.”

    Has Ruddy Ghouliani been interviewed by the FBI under penalty of perjury? With or without legal counsel? Has anyone gotten Roger Dodger Stoned’s thoughts on these campaign breaking events? Anyone?

    And if there were two laptops, why only one hard drive? Further, if child porn were on those hard drives, as some Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat minions have intimated, why hasn’t Hunter been arrested and charged? Scott Ritter was put away right quick.
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,149
    edited October 2020
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    People wanted a reason to dislike Hillary even more - emails gave them a reason
    Doubt people want to dislike Joe Biden more - no one will care about whatever shit they try to make stick
    If people don't care about a lying,  misogynistic,  narcissistic,  racist, tax cheating xenophobe 

    Why should they care about what Hunter Biden may or may not have done?
    Easy. To own the libs!
    Whoops
    Forgot that owning libs takes precedence over doing what is right for Americans and America.
    As hyperbolic as it sounds, I think it's actually true for a critical mass of Americans. I don't think such a large domestic group has ever been the villain before in America; it's especially noteworthy that it's a diverse group.  The "libs" includes whites, Christians, rich people, and veterans, along with all the other people that right has traditionally considered unsavory.

    I legitimately believe there are a lot of people (like, I don't know, half of Trump's base) that value pissing off the left far more then they do the actual good of the country and even the impacts this all has on them.  There are a few profile pictures that say "Trump 2020: Make Liberals Cry Again."  I think that shows where some people are. But the tone of Fox News, AM talk radio, etc (and I seldom even read/hear things on Qanon sites, etc.) certainly shows that most of these people value owning the libs to a significant extent, if if it's not their #1.
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