Biden vs Trump 2020 - vote now and discuss!

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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,277
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:

    That's the hilarity of the argument.  Is Trump waiting for December before he does something about the unrest?
    If he could, he would.

    ”I have the secret formula to save America and the World; it’s very simple.  And I’ll unleash it...if I win.”
    Team Trump Treason “might” unleash it, if he wins. But only if you’re nice to him.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    Biden
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:

    That's the hilarity of the argument.  Is Trump waiting for December before he does something about the unrest?
    If he could, he would.

    ”I have the secret formula to save America and the World; it’s very simple.  And I’ll unleash it...if I win.”
    Same thing with the vaccine.  "It will be ready in December!"  If he loses will it not be ready in December?
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,094
    edited August 2020
    Biden
    Can we get the media to start calling him a Facist yet.  That’s all he is.  Creating a culture of fear that only he can protect the righteous from.  Especially after the pageantry last night, can anyone seriously not see this.  If he is re-elected say goodbye to the USA and say hello to The Empire of Trump.  There will be absolutely no stopping him
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,597
    Biden
    Everyone thought this was the weird poll in ‘16 that always had Trump ahead. Turned out pretty accurate:

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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,597
    Biden
    static111 said:
    Can we get the media to start calling him a Facist yet.  That’s all he is.  Creating a culture of fear that only he can protect the righteous from.  Especially after the pageantry last night, can anyone seriously not see this.  If he is re-elected say goodbye to the USA and say hello to The Empire of Trump.  There will be absolutely no stopping him
    America or Trump. That's what this election is about. 

    I wanted to vomit watching what they did to the White House last night. Could only bare about about 10 minutes of Trump's bullshit. 
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,205
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:

    That's the hilarity of the argument.  Is Trump waiting for December before he does something about the unrest?
    If he could, he would.

    ”I have the secret formula to save America and the World; it’s very simple.  And I’ll unleash it...if I win.”
    Same thing with the vaccine.  "It will be ready in December!"  If he loses will it not be ready in December?
    All of his bullshit is always promised for some point in the future.  What was it....like 6 weeks ago when he said he was going to have a health care plan in "two weeks"?

    I am so sick of this motherfucker and the people that ignore all of his fucking lies.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,490
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:

    That's the hilarity of the argument.  Is Trump waiting for December before he does something about the unrest?
    If he could, he would.

    ”I have the secret formula to save America and the World; it’s very simple.  And I’ll unleash it...if I win.”
    Same thing with the vaccine.  "It will be ready in December!"  If he loses will it not be ready in December?
    All of his bullshit is always promised for some point in the future.  What was it....like 6 weeks ago when he said he was going to have a health care plan in "two weeks"?

    I am so sick of this motherfucker and the people that ignore all of his fucking lies.
    every time i hear him say "very soon" or "in a couple of weeks" I just laugh to myself. 
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  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,094
    Biden
    We’re frogs in warm water.  I think this situation is much worse than we realize just because so much crazy shit has been normalized by the RNC and the Media.  The media if it is a true friend of the people needs to stop treating him with the respect of his office.  The time for that is over.  Respect is earned. He has had his time and we need more than just the prime time talking heads to be calling out the BS and calling it out hard.  Fascist, wanna be dictator, authoritarian, oligarch. All of these terms need to be heavily used.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,277
    Someone please post the Lincoln Project’s latest that opens with Lindsey Flimsy Flip Flop Faloozy Graham opening and speaking to what a kook Team Trump Treason is. It’s LOL funny but you have to wait until the end when the credits/claimer roll. Please.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,490
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    static111 said:
    We’re frogs in warm water.  I think this situation is much worse than we realize just because so much crazy shit has been normalized by the RNC and the Media.  The media if it is a true friend of the people needs to stop treating him with the respect of his office.  The time for that is over.  Respect is earned. He has had his time and we need more than just the prime time talking heads to be calling out the BS and calling it out hard.  Fascist, wanna be dictator, authoritarian, oligarch. All of these terms need to be heavily used.
    i think part of the problem with doing that is there would be a massive backlash that trump himself started. they'd be considered the left version of fox news. anderson cooper has done some of that from what i've seen, however. 
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  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    Someone please post the Lincoln Project’s latest that opens with Lindsey Flimsy Flip Flop Faloozy Graham opening and speaking to what a kook Team Trump Treason is. It’s LOL funny but you have to wait until the end when the credits/claimer roll. Please.

  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,277
    PJNB said:
    Someone please post the Lincoln Project’s latest that opens with Lindsey Flimsy Flip Flop Faloozy Graham opening and speaking to what a kook Team Trump Treason is. It’s LOL funny but you have to wait until the end when the credits/claimer roll. Please.

    Thank you.
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  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,094
    Biden
    static111 said:
    We’re frogs in warm water.  I think this situation is much worse than we realize just because so much crazy shit has been normalized by the RNC and the Media.  The media if it is a true friend of the people needs to stop treating him with the respect of his office.  The time for that is over.  Respect is earned. He has had his time and we need more than just the prime time talking heads to be calling out the BS and calling it out hard.  Fascist, wanna be dictator, authoritarian, oligarch. All of these terms need to be heavily used.
    i think part of the problem with doing that is there would be a massive backlash that trump himself started. they'd be considered the left version of fox news. anderson cooper has done some of that from what i've seen, however. 
    I think we need to stop worrying about what republicans think.  The average Republican voter has to be ok with single party rule at this point.  I think the case needs to be made for people that don’t pay attention as closely as we do on AMT that this is the beginning of an attempted dictatorship. I mean they are still hollering that Joe Biden is a Radical leftist socialist lol they have zero regard for truthfulness. Why shouldn’t anyone be calling all of this out for what it is, and loudly?  
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,125
    Biden
    Anybody else hate the “I m proud to be an American” song or is it just me? 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Vitalogensia
    Vitalogensia Posts: 2,197
    Biden
    mcgruff10 said:
    Anybody else hate the “I m proud to be an American” song or is it just me? 
    Hate it.  Ever heard David Cross's comment on that song?
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,125
    Biden
    mcgruff10 said:
    Anybody else hate the “I m proud to be an American” song or is it just me? 
    Hate it.  Ever heard David Cross's comment on that song?
    I have not.  To be it is forced patriotism.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Vitalogensia
    Vitalogensia Posts: 2,197
    Biden
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Anybody else hate the “I m proud to be an American” song or is it just me? 
    Hate it.  Ever heard David Cross's comment on that song?
    I have not.  To be it is forced patriotism.  
    Yeah you're absolutely right.  https://youtu.be/H3Bb-pZTcmQ?t=91
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,094
    Biden
    mcgruff10 said:
    Anybody else hate the “I m proud to be an American” song or is it just me? 
    One of the worst songs ever written. It makes me cringe
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,597
    Biden
    SAD
    https://tvline.com/2020/08/28/tv-ratings-republican-convention-night-4-president-trump-speech/

    Ratings: Republican Convention Ends With No Trump Bump, Down vs. Night 3

    By Matt Webb Mitovich / August 28 2020, 8:25 AM PDT

    Ratings Republican Convention Trump Speech
    In the latest TV ratings, the 2020 Republican National Convention’s grand finale did not appear to enjoy any major Trump bumpon Thursday night, at least according to preliminary numbers.

    ABC, CBS and NBC’s combined coverage of RNC Night 4 — which featured Rudy Giuliani, Ivanka Trump and then a 70-minute speech by President Donald Trump himself — delivered 5.43 million total viewers (through 11 pm), which is down a tick from Night 3 (5.65 mil) but on par with Night 2’s broadcast total (5.45 mil).

    Compared to broadcast-TV’s fast nationals for Night 4 of the Democratic National Convention (5.8 mil), the RNC’s own finale was off by six percent.

    The DNC Night 4 went on to report 24.6 million total viewers, with PBS, FOX News Channel, Fox Business Network, MSNBC, CNN, CNNe, Newsmax and Newsy all folded in; the RNC’s high thus far through Wednesday night is 19.4 million, for Night 2. Check back later for RNC Night 4’s cable-inclusive total!

    Elsewhere on Thursday, CBS’ Big Brother (4 mil/1.0) was steady week-to-week, leading the quiet night in both measures.

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  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    SAD
    https://tvline.com/2020/08/28/tv-ratings-republican-convention-night-4-president-trump-speech/

    Ratings: Republican Convention Ends With No Trump Bump, Down vs. Night 3

    By Matt Webb Mitovich / August 28 2020, 8:25 AM PDT

    Ratings Republican Convention Trump Speech
    In the latest TV ratings, the 2020 Republican National Convention’s grand finale did not appear to enjoy any major Trump bumpon Thursday night, at least according to preliminary numbers.

    ABC, CBS and NBC’s combined coverage of RNC Night 4 — which featured Rudy Giuliani, Ivanka Trump and then a 70-minute speech by President Donald Trump himself — delivered 5.43 million total viewers (through 11 pm), which is down a tick from Night 3 (5.65 mil) but on par with Night 2’s broadcast total (5.45 mil).

    Compared to broadcast-TV’s fast nationals for Night 4 of the Democratic National Convention (5.8 mil), the RNC’s own finale was off by six percent.

    The DNC Night 4 went on to report 24.6 million total viewers, with PBS, FOX News Channel, Fox Business Network, MSNBC, CNN, CNNe, Newsmax and Newsy all folded in; the RNC’s high thus far through Wednesday night is 19.4 million, for Night 2. Check back later for RNC Night 4’s cable-inclusive total!

    Elsewhere on Thursday, CBS’ Big Brother (4 mil/1.0) was steady week-to-week, leading the quiet night in both measures.

    I love this especially after his NBA comments.  No sports to watch either for competition. Sad!