More than voting twice, because I think there are measures against that, are ballots being misdelivered or stolen from the mail, or ballots being mailed to dead people and their relatives fill it out. Like I said, it will certainly happen, but not in numbers big enough to actually change the results.
Are there precedent for this, or is it fear mongering?
And still, wouldn't you need something more to vote than a ballot (as in being checked off against your ID)... so why would a dead person be able to vote?
They're just being mailed out then either mailed back or dropped off at a voting box, no ID needed for a mail ballot. So you can steal a ballot from a mail box or get one misdelivered to you and still fill it out. And I'm sure someone who died within the last few months will probably still be getting a ballot in the mail. One reason I think its stupid for people who didn't even request one. So the fact there is going to be fraud is real. Saying its going to be hundreds of thousands of ballots stolen from the post office in a swing state and filled out for Biden is fear mongering.
So, as long as you have a ballot - that equals a vote and no checks are being done for it to be cast? A ballot is no way checked of against an individual in any step of the process?
So if I found 25 ballots, I could just send them in an envelope in the ordinary mail and they would all be counted?
Hmm... Sounds a bit shaky.
It is just GOP scare tactics to cast doubt and uncertainty. My state has been all mail in voting for over a decade. You have to be a registered voter to get a ballot mailed - but GOP would call those unsolicited since we don't have to request one each election. And the signature is checked on each against the voter registration. If signatures don't match the ballot us rejected. We have very little voter fraud in the state and it works well. I received my ballot last Thursday, dropped it in a ballot box on Friday morning, and by Monday the tracking on the election site showed my ballot had been received and counted. The fear mongering from the right about mail-in voting is getting boring.
I registered online, I don’t think my signature is on file anywhere except maybe my driver’s license from 20 years ago.
"Listen, can you imagine if I had had a secret Chinese bank account when I was running for reelection?" Obama asked. "You think Fox News might have been a little concerned about that? They would have called me Beijing Barry."
Lol. Using COVID lock down economy that the Dems wanted and enforced and their voters actually agree with against him. How 'bout the same graphic as of 3/1/2020?
Do you guys really thing people voting for Biden are that stupid? Oh, wait.
Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
Lol. Using COVID lock down economy that the Dems wanted and enforced and their voters actually agree with against him. How 'bout the same graphic as of 3/1/2020?
Do you guys really thing people voting for Biden are that stupid? Oh, wait.
You're president for the whole term. Is the ad unfair?
Lol. Using COVID lock down economy that the Dems wanted and enforced and their voters actually agree with against him. How 'bout the same graphic as of 3/1/2020?
Do you guys really thing people voting for Biden are that stupid? Oh, wait.
You're president for the whole term. Is the ad unfair?
Come on, have you forgotten that it’s actually Biden and the Democrats fault that the virus was poorly managed. If the blue states would just open up we could have a much better economy and only a few more 100,000s of deaths. Democrat Hoax. *sarcasm*
Lol. Using COVID lock down economy that the Dems wanted and enforced and their voters actually agree with against him. How 'bout the same graphic as of 3/1/2020?
Do you guys really thing people voting for Biden are that stupid? Oh, wait.
What an ignorant statement. Why don't you holster that Trump boner before you make more of a fool of yourself. Basically what you are saying is that using Trump's failed approach to handling Covid against him because states had to take their own action is punishing him unfairly, but using them in his favor when the states created jobs and things were fine before that isn't. You can't have it both ways. Failure to lead and provide clear guidance for the entire country has a consequence and this is it. Whether a state locked down to save lives or didn't and eventually cost lives didn't end up keeping more jobs anyway. People aren't going to be able to work if they are going to be exposed to a virus without any clear plan on how to recover or respond to it. If what you were saying is true, then only blue states should have experienced job loss, which is not the case. But yeah, yeah, yeah, you keep saying Trump is going to lose so no big deal. Pretty sure you'd be pretty stoked to take a victory lap if he didn't though.
Lol. Using COVID lock down economy that the Dems wanted and enforced and their voters actually agree with against him. How 'bout the same graphic as of 3/1/2020?
Do you guys really thing people voting for Biden are that stupid? Oh, wait.
You're president for the whole term. Is the ad unfair?
Come on, have you forgotten that it’s actually Biden and the Democrats fault that the virus was poorly managed. If the blue states would just open up we could have a much better economy and only a few more 100,000s of deaths. Democrat Hoax. *sarcasm*
So what's the deal with all the mail voting? Corona? Or is it some kind of movement..?
Both. I don't agree with the mass mail out ballots that's been going on. Some counties or states are mailing ballots to every registered voter, whether they asked for one or not. To think that there wont be any fraud is naïve. To also think the fraud will be exclusively one party and in large enough amounts to actually impact the election is also naïve. But I still think someone should have to request a mail ballot to receive one.
To think the tech doesn’t exist to rapidly check ID numbers, names, addresses and signatures** on ballots received to registration records is naive. And it’s also Trump Fake News.
But your use of the double dot on the i is exemplary
**in accordance with the voting laws of a particular state
Lol. Using COVID lock down economy that the Dems wanted and enforced and their voters actually agree with against him. How 'bout the same graphic as of 3/1/2020?
Do you guys really thing people voting for Biden are that stupid? Oh, wait.
You're president for the whole term. Is the ad unfair?
What is the loss of jobs per capita in the US compared to the rest of the western world (under covid)? In line with, more or less?
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
So what is the reason for having to register to vote? As in the argument for it?
Why wouldn't every eligible voter be registered as a voter by being an eligible citizen?
Because 1) it's all left up to the states 2) it can be left up to a completely absurd political process. Otherwise, voting would/should be treated like the duty and right that it is. You hear from some people, some politicians, they will tell you voting is a privilege. Which is fucking absurd.
Yes, you may be one of those countries where it's a duty? Definitely should be the case everywhere.
No. Not a duty, if I read the word correctly. You are not forced to. You can stay home. Or make a point by not voting. Only 87% voted last election.
But every citizen can show up with their ID (drivers license, passport etc) to their local voting locale, and leave a ballot on or some day that suits them before election day.
Being a citizen = you are eligable to vote and have a local voting locale designated to you Show ID = your name will be checked off on a list of the names designated to that voting locale, and your ballot will be put in the box
And election day is always on a Sunday - where the most people are free from work.
I guess a right, duty I see as almost the same. Sure, you shouldn't go to jail or something if you don't vote.
My belief is if you can automatically be drafted at 18 to go to war, then you should be automatically be registered to vote. Voting should not be an inconvenience, nor a challenge, to the voter. We should all be automatically be sent a ballot and the voting window should be at least a week, if not a month. As ideal as I would like to think everyone will be off to vote on a Sunday it's not realistic - people get screwed by having one day to vote.
In Sweden you have 18 days to vote, but the actual election day (last day of voting) is on a Sunday.
Ofc you should be eligible/register to vote automatically just by being a citizen.
Don't see why it should be any other way if one wants to be called a democracy.
But don't wanna come off as I'm dunking on the US and get PM:s about it. So will end the discussion. Maybe there are super-duper great reasons for having to jump through hoops to vote.
We are not a democracy, we are a republic. This give our elected representatives greater power to make voting more difficult.
The reason it’s more difficult to vote is the same reason the number of justices need to be added if the US has any chance for meaningful change such as healthcare. Our constitution gives more power to the smaller and whiter and rural states, giving them more power in senate elections and the electoral college. To have the final say on laws here, these are the only pathways to having any say.
So what is the reason for having to register to vote? As in the argument for it?
Why wouldn't every eligible voter be registered as a voter by being an eligible citizen?
Because 1) it's all left up to the states 2) it can be left up to a completely absurd political process. Otherwise, voting would/should be treated like the duty and right that it is. You hear from some people, some politicians, they will tell you voting is a privilege. Which is fucking absurd.
Yes, you may be one of those countries where it's a duty? Definitely should be the case everywhere.
No. Not a duty, if I read the word correctly. You are not forced to. You can stay home. Or make a point by not voting. Only 87% voted last election.
But every citizen can show up with their ID (drivers license, passport etc) to their local voting locale, and leave a ballot on or some day that suits them before election day.
Being a citizen = you are eligable to vote and have a local voting locale designated to you Show ID = your name will be checked off on a list of the names designated to that voting locale, and your ballot will be put in the box
And election day is always on a Sunday - where the most people are free from work.
I guess a right, duty I see as almost the same. Sure, you shouldn't go to jail or something if you don't vote.
My belief is if you can automatically be drafted at 18 to go to war, then you should be automatically be registered to vote. Voting should not be an inconvenience, nor a challenge, to the voter. We should all be automatically be sent a ballot and the voting window should be at least a week, if not a month. As ideal as I would like to think everyone will be off to vote on a Sunday it's not realistic - people get screwed by having one day to vote.
In Sweden you have 18 days to vote, but the actual election day (last day of voting) is on a Sunday.
Ofc you should be eligible/register to vote automatically just by being a citizen.
Don't see why it should be any other way if one wants to be called a democracy.
But don't wanna come off as I'm dunking on the US and get PM:s about it. So will end the discussion. Maybe there are super-duper great reasons for having to jump through hoops to vote.
We are not a democracy, we are a republic. This give our elected representatives greater power to make voting more difficult.
Seems you guys mix and match between the two in discussions.
Not to open the pandoras box again on here about Obama having the wrong facts:
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
So what is the reason for having to register to vote? As in the argument for it?
Why wouldn't every eligible voter be registered as a voter by being an eligible citizen?
Because 1) it's all left up to the states 2) it can be left up to a completely absurd political process. Otherwise, voting would/should be treated like the duty and right that it is. You hear from some people, some politicians, they will tell you voting is a privilege. Which is fucking absurd.
Yes, you may be one of those countries where it's a duty? Definitely should be the case everywhere.
No. Not a duty, if I read the word correctly. You are not forced to. You can stay home. Or make a point by not voting. Only 87% voted last election.
But every citizen can show up with their ID (drivers license, passport etc) to their local voting locale, and leave a ballot on or some day that suits them before election day.
Being a citizen = you are eligable to vote and have a local voting locale designated to you Show ID = your name will be checked off on a list of the names designated to that voting locale, and your ballot will be put in the box
And election day is always on a Sunday - where the most people are free from work.
I guess a right, duty I see as almost the same. Sure, you shouldn't go to jail or something if you don't vote.
My belief is if you can automatically be drafted at 18 to go to war, then you should be automatically be registered to vote. Voting should not be an inconvenience, nor a challenge, to the voter. We should all be automatically be sent a ballot and the voting window should be at least a week, if not a month. As ideal as I would like to think everyone will be off to vote on a Sunday it's not realistic - people get screwed by having one day to vote.
In Sweden you have 18 days to vote, but the actual election day (last day of voting) is on a Sunday.
Ofc you should be eligible/register to vote automatically just by being a citizen.
Don't see why it should be any other way if one wants to be called a democracy.
But don't wanna come off as I'm dunking on the US and get PM:s about it. So will end the discussion. Maybe there are super-duper great reasons for having to jump through hoops to vote.
We are not a democracy, we are a republic. This give our elected representatives greater power to make voting more difficult.
Seems you guys mix and match between the two in discussions.
Not to open the pandoras box again on here about Obama having the wrong facts:
So what is the reason for having to register to vote? As in the argument for it?
Why wouldn't every eligible voter be registered as a voter by being an eligible citizen?
Because 1) it's all left up to the states 2) it can be left up to a completely absurd political process. Otherwise, voting would/should be treated like the duty and right that it is. You hear from some people, some politicians, they will tell you voting is a privilege. Which is fucking absurd.
Yes, you may be one of those countries where it's a duty? Definitely should be the case everywhere.
No. Not a duty, if I read the word correctly. You are not forced to. You can stay home. Or make a point by not voting. Only 87% voted last election.
But every citizen can show up with their ID (drivers license, passport etc) to their local voting locale, and leave a ballot on or some day that suits them before election day.
Being a citizen = you are eligable to vote and have a local voting locale designated to you Show ID = your name will be checked off on a list of the names designated to that voting locale, and your ballot will be put in the box
And election day is always on a Sunday - where the most people are free from work.
I guess a right, duty I see as almost the same. Sure, you shouldn't go to jail or something if you don't vote.
My belief is if you can automatically be drafted at 18 to go to war, then you should be automatically be registered to vote. Voting should not be an inconvenience, nor a challenge, to the voter. We should all be automatically be sent a ballot and the voting window should be at least a week, if not a month. As ideal as I would like to think everyone will be off to vote on a Sunday it's not realistic - people get screwed by having one day to vote.
In Sweden you have 18 days to vote, but the actual election day (last day of voting) is on a Sunday.
Ofc you should be eligible/register to vote automatically just by being a citizen.
Don't see why it should be any other way if one wants to be called a democracy.
But don't wanna come off as I'm dunking on the US and get PM:s about it. So will end the discussion. Maybe there are super-duper great reasons for having to jump through hoops to vote.
We are not a democracy, we are a republic. This give our elected representatives greater power to make voting more difficult.
Seems you guys mix and match between the two in discussions.
Not to open the pandoras box again on here about Obama having the wrong facts:
Representative democracy, to be exact
Well, that is the default form of a democracy.
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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Lol. Using COVID lock down economy that the Dems wanted and enforced and their voters actually agree with against him. How 'bout the same graphic as of 3/1/2020?
Do you guys really thing people voting for Biden are that stupid? Oh, wait.
You're president for the whole term. Is the ad unfair?
Come on, have you forgotten that it’s actually Biden and the Democrats fault that the virus was poorly managed. If the blue states would just open up we could have a much better economy and only a few more 100,000s of deaths. Democrat Hoax. *sarcasm*
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So what is the reason for having to register to vote? As in the argument for it?
Why wouldn't every eligible voter be registered as a voter by being an eligible citizen?
Because 1) it's all left up to the states 2) it can be left up to a completely absurd political process. Otherwise, voting would/should be treated like the duty and right that it is. You hear from some people, some politicians, they will tell you voting is a privilege. Which is fucking absurd.
Yes, you may be one of those countries where it's a duty? Definitely should be the case everywhere.
No. Not a duty, if I read the word correctly. You are not forced to. You can stay home. Or make a point by not voting. Only 87% voted last election.
But every citizen can show up with their ID (drivers license, passport etc) to their local voting locale, and leave a ballot on or some day that suits them before election day.
Being a citizen = you are eligable to vote and have a local voting locale designated to you Show ID = your name will be checked off on a list of the names designated to that voting locale, and your ballot will be put in the box
And election day is always on a Sunday - where the most people are free from work.
I guess a right, duty I see as almost the same. Sure, you shouldn't go to jail or something if you don't vote.
My belief is if you can automatically be drafted at 18 to go to war, then you should be automatically be registered to vote. Voting should not be an inconvenience, nor a challenge, to the voter. We should all be automatically be sent a ballot and the voting window should be at least a week, if not a month. As ideal as I would like to think everyone will be off to vote on a Sunday it's not realistic - people get screwed by having one day to vote.
In Sweden you have 18 days to vote, but the actual election day (last day of voting) is on a Sunday.
Ofc you should be eligible/register to vote automatically just by being a citizen.
Don't see why it should be any other way if one wants to be called a democracy.
But don't wanna come off as I'm dunking on the US and get PM:s about it. So will end the discussion. Maybe there are super-duper great reasons for having to jump through hoops to vote.
We are not a democracy, we are a republic. This give our elected representatives greater power to make voting more difficult.
Seems you guys mix and match between the two in discussions.
Not to open the pandoras box again on here about Obama having the wrong facts:
Representative democracy, to be exact
It’s great that SC is back, but he cut out the essential portion of my comment.
I was referring to the Supreme Court and the final say on our laws, such as voting laws.
As you know, The people do not have direct access to vote for this branch of govt. Only the senate and electoral college have a voice, institutions that give more power to acreage than people.
So what is the reason for having to register to vote? As in the argument for it?
Why wouldn't every eligible voter be registered as a voter by being an eligible citizen?
Because 1) it's all left up to the states 2) it can be left up to a completely absurd political process. Otherwise, voting would/should be treated like the duty and right that it is. You hear from some people, some politicians, they will tell you voting is a privilege. Which is fucking absurd.
mickeyrat
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emergency trip to vegas for a family thing. intended to early this morning. my boe is in a former dept store. works great. except when the line is around the building.....
the black mark on the right is the front door. the black mark on the left is the farthest I could see where the line ends? suspect it goes behind the building? guessing about 250 people with 15 to 20 cars pulling in when I did. cant wait... need some sleep.
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So what's the deal with all the mail voting? Corona? Or is it some kind of movement..?
Both. I don't agree with the mass mail out ballots that's been going on. Some counties or states are mailing ballots to every registered voter, whether they asked for one or not. To think that there wont be any fraud is naïve. To also think the fraud will be exclusively one party and in large enough amounts to actually impact the election is also naïve. But I still think someone should have to request a mail ballot to receive one.
To think the tech doesn’t exist to rapidly check ID numbers, names, addresses and signatures** on ballots received to registration records is naive. And it’s also Trump Fake News.
But your use of the double dot on the i is exemplary
**in accordance with the voting laws of a particular state
Mail ballots already have names and addresses. Not all states require signatures. Many of the states that do check signatures check it against your driver's license, which could be 10 or 20 years old. A signature that I did on an electronic screen at the DMV 10 years ago won't match what I sign on a piece of paper today. I don't have a lot of faith that the signature check is very accurate or precise, but even if it is there's still a lot of states that don't do it. I thought it was 19, this article says 18 states don't verify it. I believe some state sonly require a witness signature on the envelope. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/10/07/upshot/mail-voting-ballots-signature-matching.html But its a moot point, like I said before, there is definitely going to be some fake ballots or signatures. But not in big enough numbers to change the results of an election.
Voted in person last Friday. Took a whole of 10 minutes from the time I left my house to pressing the “cast ballot” button. Easy Peesy!
if biden wins, i sincerely hope he enacts some type of election reform. not just the electoral college (if he can), but also presidential elections at the state level. these asshole republicans being allowed to basically suppress the vote and gerrymander their areas so they never lose is absurd.
So what is the reason for having to register to vote? As in the argument for it?
Why wouldn't every eligible voter be registered as a voter by being an eligible citizen?
Because 1) it's all left up to the states 2) it can be left up to a completely absurd political process. Otherwise, voting would/should be treated like the duty and right that it is. You hear from some people, some politicians, they will tell you voting is a privilege. Which is fucking absurd.
Yes, you may be one of those countries where it's a duty? Definitely should be the case everywhere.
No. Not a duty, if I read the word correctly. You are not forced to. You can stay home. Or make a point by not voting. Only 87% voted last election.
But every citizen can show up with their ID (drivers license, passport etc) to their local voting locale, and leave a ballot on or some day that suits them before election day.
Being a citizen = you are eligable to vote and have a local voting locale designated to you Show ID = your name will be checked off on a list of the names designated to that voting locale, and your ballot will be put in the box
And election day is always on a Sunday - where the most people are free from work.
I guess a right, duty I see as almost the same. Sure, you shouldn't go to jail or something if you don't vote.
My belief is if you can automatically be drafted at 18 to go to war, then you should be automatically be registered to vote. Voting should not be an inconvenience, nor a challenge, to the voter. We should all be automatically be sent a ballot and the voting window should be at least a week, if not a month. As ideal as I would like to think everyone will be off to vote on a Sunday it's not realistic - people get screwed by having one day to vote.
In Sweden you have 18 days to vote, but the actual election day (last day of voting) is on a Sunday.
Ofc you should be eligible/register to vote automatically just by being a citizen.
Don't see why it should be any other way if one wants to be called a democracy.
But don't wanna come off as I'm dunking on the US and get PM:s about it. So will end the discussion. Maybe there are super-duper great reasons for having to jump through hoops to vote.
We are not a democracy, we are a republic. This give our elected representatives greater power to make voting more difficult.
Seems you guys mix and match between the two in discussions.
Not to open the pandoras box again on here about Obama having the wrong facts:
Representative democracy, to be exact
It’s great that SC is back, but he cut out the essential portion of my comment.
I was referring to the Supreme Court and the final say on our laws, such as voting laws.
As you know, The people do not have direct access to vote for this branch of govt. Only the senate and electoral college have a voice, institutions that give more power to acreage than people.
So that's an interesting point. Now I admit I have not read all of the Federalist (or the anti-Federalist) papers, but the concept of the SCOTUS having final say in laws was not necessarily enshrined in the Constitution, it's more Marbury v Madison that set the precedent and the two other branches acquiesced to that concept.
Voted in person last Friday. Took a whole of 10 minutes from the time I left my house to pressing the “cast ballot” button. Easy Peesy!
if biden wins, i sincerely hope he enacts some type of election reform. not just the electoral college (if he can), but also presidential elections at the state level. these asshole republicans being allowed to basically suppress the vote and gerrymander their areas so they never lose is absurd.
The gerrymandering is a little absurd, I agree, but I don’t see the electoral college going away and I don’t think it should. It may need some reform, but we are not a direct democracy and our union of states would not function too well in that environment in my opinion.
Voted in person last Friday. Took a whole of 10 minutes from the time I left my house to pressing the “cast ballot” button. Easy Peesy!
if biden wins, i sincerely hope he enacts some type of election reform. not just the electoral college (if he can), but also presidential elections at the state level. these asshole republicans being allowed to basically suppress the vote and gerrymander their areas so they never lose is absurd.
The gerrymandering is a little absurd, I agree, but I don’t see the electoral college going away and I don’t think it should. It may need some reform, but we are not a direct democracy and our union of states would not function too well in that environment in my opinion.
one reform is proportional electoral votes....
would mean a more national focus on more states than just a handful....
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Both sides gerrymander....it's a ridiculous system that allows it
When I was a kid I used to think that the changing of district boundaries was because of high school football, lol. It still seemed ridiculous and dishonest for that reason too, especially those riding the district lines.
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Do you guys really thing people voting for Biden are that stupid? Oh, wait.
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To think the tech doesn’t exist to rapidly check ID numbers, names, addresses and signatures** on ballots received to registration records is naive. And it’s also Trump Fake News.
The reason it’s more difficult to vote is the same reason the number of justices need to be added if the US has any chance for meaningful change such as healthcare. Our constitution gives more power to the smaller and whiter and rural states, giving them more power in senate elections and the electoral college. To have the final say on laws here, these are the only pathways to having any say.
Not to open the pandoras box again on here about Obama having the wrong facts:
doesn't he already enjoy that very thing?
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I was referring to the Supreme Court and the final say on our laws, such as voting laws.
As you know, The people do not have direct access to vote for this branch of govt. Only the senate and electoral college have a voice, institutions that give more power to acreage than people.
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I thought it was 19, this article says 18 states don't verify it. I believe some state sonly require a witness signature on the envelope.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/10/07/upshot/mail-voting-ballots-signature-matching.html
But its a moot point, like I said before, there is definitely going to be some fake ballots or signatures. But not in big enough numbers to change the results of an election.
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