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  • New Jersey Posts: 29,114
    Oh wow @cutz
    this is definitely a new perspective.  
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    cutz said:



    Might make sense if you just leave out the part where he murdered a guy just moments before this.


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    dignin said:
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    Might make sense if you just leave out the part where he murdered a guy just moments before this.


    How do we know it wasn’t self defense? Is there other videos?


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    mcgruff10 said:
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    How do we know it wasn’t self defense? Is there other videos?


    He is a 17 year old white terrorist that crossed state lines to play call of duty live.  There is no justifying anything he did.  There is no benefit of the doubt here. He went looking to use his rifle.  Killed two people and maimed another.  
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    static111 said:
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    He is a 17 year old white terrorist that crossed state lines to play call of duty live.  There is no justifying anything he did.  There is no benefit of the doubt here. He went looking to use his rifle.  Killed two people and maimed another.  
    And still didn’t get shot by the cops.
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    There is a vid of the first killing out there. I am not posting it here. He was being chased for unknown reasons and someone threw a grocery bag at him. He shot them in the head. Multiple shots were fired. He stood over the body on his phone then ran away as others started to chase him. Then the second vid above happens. 
  • New Jersey Posts: 29,114
    static111 said:
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    He is a 17 year old white terrorist that crossed state lines to play call of duty live.  There is no justifying anything he did.  There is no benefit of the doubt here. He went looking to use his rifle.  Killed two people and maimed another.  
    How bout we get all the facts first? Like I said, from the video it does look like self defense.  Who knows, it is all crazy 
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    mcgruff10 said:
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    How do we know it wasn’t self defense? Is there other videos?


    Yes, there is at least one other. And the fact that the kid was charged with 2 counts of first degree murder should indicate that they have more evidence.


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    Mike I sent you the first vid on Facebook.
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    mcgruff10 said:
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    How bout we get all the facts first? Like I said, from the video it does look like self defense.  Who knows, it is all crazy 
    You’re really going to defend a 17 year old in illegal possession of a firearm charged with two counts of first degree murder? Why is that?
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
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    You’re really going to defend a 17 year old in illegal possession of a firearm charged with two counts of first degree murder? Why is that?
    That also somehow the police miraculously didn’t shoot while he was violating the law and posing a threat to the public at large....
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    That being said, because it's America and how fucked up your laws are, the kid will probably get off.

    I'm thinking Trayvon Martin.


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    Halifax2TheMax said:
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    You’re really going to defend a 17 year old in illegal possession of a firearm charged with two counts of first degree murder? Why is that?
    From the video that was posted I asked if it was self defense.  I was unaware of another video.  And you know I am big on prosecuting people who violate gun laws 
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    PJNB said:
    Mike I sent you the first vid on Facebook.
    Yup.  Definitely not self defense.  Fucking crazy.  
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    mcgruff10 said:
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    From the video that was posted I asked if it was self defense.  I was unaware of another video.  And you know I am big on prosecuting people who violate gun laws 
    He was a “responsible” gun owner the moment he took possession of the gun, crossed state lines and brandished it. My fucking god, the number of times I’ve heard you and others say things like, “well, if he just showed his hands, didn’t have the knife, stopped and listened to the man following him at night in the rain, didn’t grab the cops taser, etc., etc. ad nauseum.” This thug should have stayed home playing Xbox. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes, like hopefully, life plus 50 for this dumb ass deplorable. Maybe he’ll get invited to the inaugural? Fucking madness and why things never change as it relates to “responsible” gun ownership.
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
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    He was a “responsible” gun owner the moment he took possession of the gun, crossed state lines and brandished it. My fucking god, the number of times I’ve heard you and others say things like, “well, if he just showed his hands, didn’t have the knife, stopped and listened to the man following him at night in the rain, didn’t grab the cops taser, etc., etc. ad nauseum.” This thug should have stayed home playing Xbox. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes, like hopefully, life plus 50 for this dumb ass deplorable. Maybe he’ll get invited to the inaugural? Fucking madness and why things never change as it relates to “responsible” gun ownership.
    He was 17 and it wasn’t legal for him to have the weapon.  You know that.  

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    mcgruff10 said:
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    He was 17 and it wasn’t legal for him to have the weapon.  You know that.  

    I know, so legally, he shouldn’t have been in a position to legally defend himself in public. Maybe during a home invasion but not after crossing state lines to play Rambo. FFS.
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    edited August 2020
    17 year old in this video and cops didn't question him when he's walking around with a gun? 

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