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  • deadendp
    deadendp Northeast Ohio Posts: 10,434
    hedonist said:
    dankind said:
    oftenreading said:
    It's a shame that Van Morrison is apparently a science denier

    https://www.theguardian.com/music/2020/aug/25/van-morrison-blasts-covid-gig-limits-pseudoscience
    You could’ve just left it at it’s a shame that Van Morrison.... :lol:
    Hey, I love Into the Mystic :angry:

    You can keep Brown-Eyed Girl though. 

    And yeah, what the fuck, Van?
    Someone I know was going to see Van Morrison. Super excited about it. They were trying to tell me who he was. He mentioned Brown Eyed Girl.  Had I heard the song? 

    "You can't be a brown eyed girl without having part of that song sung to you at least once." 
    2014: Cincinnati
    2016: Lexington and Wrigley 1
  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    deadendp said:
    hedonist said:
    dankind said:
    oftenreading said:
    It's a shame that Van Morrison is apparently a science denier

    https://www.theguardian.com/music/2020/aug/25/van-morrison-blasts-covid-gig-limits-pseudoscience
    You could’ve just left it at it’s a shame that Van Morrison.... :lol:
    Hey, I love Into the Mystic :angry:

    You can keep Brown-Eyed Girl though. 

    And yeah, what the fuck, Van?
    Someone I know was going to see Van Morrison. Super excited about it. They were trying to tell me who he was. He mentioned Brown Eyed Girl.  Had I heard the song? 

    "You can't be a brown eyed girl without having part of that song sung to you at least once." 
    Every brown-eyed girl I've ever known despises that song. I guess it showed up on one too many mixtapes or something.
    I SAW PEARL JAM
  • deadendp
    deadendp Northeast Ohio Posts: 10,434
    dankind said:
    deadendp said:
    hedonist said:
    dankind said:
    oftenreading said:
    It's a shame that Van Morrison is apparently a science denier

    https://www.theguardian.com/music/2020/aug/25/van-morrison-blasts-covid-gig-limits-pseudoscience
    You could’ve just left it at it’s a shame that Van Morrison.... :lol:
    Hey, I love Into the Mystic :angry:

    You can keep Brown-Eyed Girl though. 

    And yeah, what the fuck, Van?
    Someone I know was going to see Van Morrison. Super excited about it. They were trying to tell me who he was. He mentioned Brown Eyed Girl.  Had I heard the song? 

    "You can't be a brown eyed girl without having part of that song sung to you at least once." 
    Every brown-eyed girl I've ever known despises that song. I guess it showed up on one too many mixtapes or something.
    Well, it was typically old dudes who sang it to me. I don’t know why, but I can be a magnet for old guys. :fearful: 
    2014: Cincinnati
    2016: Lexington and Wrigley 1
  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    deadendp said:
    dankind said:
    deadendp said:
    hedonist said:
    dankind said:
    oftenreading said:
    It's a shame that Van Morrison is apparently a science denier

    https://www.theguardian.com/music/2020/aug/25/van-morrison-blasts-covid-gig-limits-pseudoscience
    You could’ve just left it at it’s a shame that Van Morrison.... :lol:
    Hey, I love Into the Mystic :angry:

    You can keep Brown-Eyed Girl though. 

    And yeah, what the fuck, Van?
    Someone I know was going to see Van Morrison. Super excited about it. They were trying to tell me who he was. He mentioned Brown Eyed Girl.  Had I heard the song? 

    "You can't be a brown eyed girl without having part of that song sung to you at least once." 
    Every brown-eyed girl I've ever known despises that song. I guess it showed up on one too many mixtapes or something.
    Well, it was typically old dudes who sang it to me. I don’t know why, but I can be a magnet for old guys. :fearful: 
    Old guys love old ladies.

    :tongue:
    I SAW PEARL JAM
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Covidiots are everywhere, unfortunately

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/victoria-party-host-fine-1.5699920

    Parts I particularly liked:

    A Victoria man says he will fight the $2,300 fine he received this weekend for hosting a party in his one-bedroom apartment that police say was so packed the windows fogged up.

    Nate Christian, 20, said he did nothing wrong and doesn't understand why he was fined for violating the province's public health orders during the COVID-19 pandemic. 

    "I had a party, man. Not even a party, it was like a hangout. And everyone's mad at me for it," Christian told CHEK News.

    "I don't know what the big hassle is about this, I just think it's a bunch of B.S."


    And:


    He is being evicted at the end of the month and is looking for a new place to live, he added. 

    "Probably somewhere more like, outskirts where like I can do my own thing without like, police interfering with my life," Christian said. 

    "I feel like I'm allowed to have fun with a few friends."

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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Like, man!
  • deadendp
    deadendp Northeast Ohio Posts: 10,434
    edited August 2020
    dankind said:
    deadendp said:
    dankind said:
    deadendp said:
    hedonist said:
    dankind said:
    oftenreading said:
    It's a shame that Van Morrison is apparently a science denier

    https://www.theguardian.com/music/2020/aug/25/van-morrison-blasts-covid-gig-limits-pseudoscience
    You could’ve just left it at it’s a shame that Van Morrison.... :lol:
    Hey, I love Into the Mystic :angry:

    You can keep Brown-Eyed Girl though. 

    And yeah, what the fuck, Van?
    Someone I know was going to see Van Morrison. Super excited about it. They were trying to tell me who he was. He mentioned Brown Eyed Girl.  Had I heard the song? 

    "You can't be a brown eyed girl without having part of that song sung to you at least once." 
    Every brown-eyed girl I've ever known despises that song. I guess it showed up on one too many mixtapes or something.
    Well, it was typically old dudes who sang it to me. I don’t know why, but I can be a magnet for old guys. :fearful: 
    Old guys love old ladies.

    :tongue:
    🖕
    oftenreading said:
    Covidiots are everywhere, unfortunately

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/victoria-party-host-fine-1.5699920

    Parts I particularly liked:

    A Victoria man says he will fight the $2,300 fine he received this weekend for hosting a party in his one-bedroom apartment that police say was so packed the windows fogged up.

    Nate Christian, 20, said he did nothing wrong and doesn't understand why he was fined for violating the province's public health orders during the COVID-19 pandemic. 

    "I had a party, man. Not even a party, it was like a hangout. And everyone's mad at me for it," Christian told CHEK News.

    "I don't know what the big hassle is about this, I just think it's a bunch of B.S."

    And:

    He is being evicted at the end of the month and is looking for a new place to live, he added. 

    "Probably somewhere more like, outskirts where like I can do my own thing without like, police interfering with my life," Christian said. 

    "I feel like I'm allowed to have fun with a few friends."

    Such a bummer to have to follow rules. 
    2014: Cincinnati
    2016: Lexington and Wrigley 1
  • what dreams
    what dreams Posts: 1,761
    This week has been orientation week at my middle school for kids to pick up their computers and get a 20 minute visit with their homeroom teachers. I never had more than 6 people (2 kids plus parents) in the room with me, we all wore masks, and between each session, bus drivers were re-tasked with cleaning desks.

    With my very first session, though, I realized why social distancing could never work. Just to help guide kids through the log-in process, understanding the schedule, navigating the delivery platform -- it was my instinct to sit side by side, inches away, taking their paper and writing on it, passing it back to them, smiling and laughing up close . . . I couldn't help it. It's what we do. It was really, really wonderful to be with students again and enjoy those short sessions.

    I also had a colleague share a horrific story after a meeting on Monday. She is closely connected with local fire and rescue. She said they have gone on calls all summer long where entire houses of people were dead, or found houses full of sick people sitting with decomposing dead bodies. The undocumented immigrant community (and we have a lot of them) is so terrified of going to the ER that they are dying in their houses en masse. And none of it is getting reported as COVID because they were never tested, or didn't die in the hospital. Such a terrible tragedy. This is a story that is not getting told in the news. I know there was a comment above about how maybe we're on the tail end of things. I don't think so. Not in my neck of the woods. 

    Now I just hope that none of us at school picked it up. Ugh. 
  • PureandEasy
    PureandEasy Posts: 5,818
    what dreams said:
    This week has been orientation week at my middle school for kids to pick up their computers and get a 20 minute visit with their homeroom teachers. I never had more than 6 people (2 kids plus parents) in the room with me, we all wore masks, and between each session, bus drivers were re-tasked with cleaning desks.

    With my very first session, though, I realized why social distancing could never work. Just to help guide kids through the log-in process, understanding the schedule, navigating the delivery platform -- it was my instinct to sit side by side, inches away, taking their paper and writing on it, passing it back to them, smiling and laughing up close . . . I couldn't help it. It's what we do. It was really, really wonderful to be with students again and enjoy those short sessions.

    I also had a colleague share a horrific story after a meeting on Monday. She is closely connected with local fire and rescue. She said they have gone on calls all summer long where entire houses of people were dead, or found houses full of sick people sitting with decomposing dead bodies. The undocumented immigrant community (and we have a lot of them) is so terrified of going to the ER that they are dying in their houses en masse. And none of it is getting reported as COVID because they were never tested, or didn't die in the hospital. Such a terrible tragedy. This is a story that is not getting told in the news. I know there was a comment above about how maybe we're on the tail end of things. I don't think so. Not in my neck of the woods. 

    Now I just hope that none of us at school picked it up. Ugh. 
    Oh what a horrific story.  I totally believe it though.  Even people who are citizens and have insurance, have failed to go to an ER with an emergency situation because of the fear of going to a hospital right now.  This is such a colossal failure on the people who are supposed to protect us in these emergencies.  All this death could have been avoided if action was taken early on. No matter what your political affiliation is, THERE IS NO DENYING THAT FACT.   
    Don't come closer or I'll have to go
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,532
    Yeah, still trying to figure out the part where this thing is dying off? The day we have instant rapid cheap testing, tracing, and a vaccine is the day this thing is "dying off".

    I know no one wants to think about the winter, but it's gonna ssssssuuuuuuck.
  • deadendp
    deadendp Northeast Ohio Posts: 10,434
    Not particularly well-written, as I believe they were paid extra everytime they used the word "poop," but the idea itself is interesting. 

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/researchers-university-arizona-stopped-coronavirus-110900534.html
    2014: Cincinnati
    2016: Lexington and Wrigley 1
  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,896
    I still believe vit d3 is vital in not getting severe covid.
    Just take  a supplement if you are reading  this.


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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,532
    I mean it makes sense. I believe this is partly how SARS began its spread - through HVAC, and plumbing.
  • PureandEasy
    PureandEasy Posts: 5,818
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    I mean it makes sense. I believe this is partly how SARS began its spread - through HVAC, and plumbing.
    SARS?  You may be thinking about Legionnaires Disease; which was absolutely associated with HVAC issues.  The issue today with COVID and all along remains to be the issue, is limiting exposure, this will not go away until people social distance and wear masks.  As long as people continue to congregate and dismiss the threat, people will be infected and people will continue to die.  Maybe it has to affect you personally before you take it seriously, and at the point how many people have died due to your ignorance and selfishness.  Not calling you out PJ0925; just posting in the thread.  At this point, how many restaurants, how many small businesses will no longer be able to survive because some people chose to ignore the threat and continue to do so today.  

    Don't trust a vaccine that has not had viable studies; science has come a long way, but the studies still have to be validated.  
    Don't come closer or I'll have to go
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,532
    PureandEasy said:
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    I mean it makes sense. I believe this is partly how SARS began its spread - through HVAC, and plumbing.
    SARS?  You may be thinking about Legionnaires Disease; which was absolutely associated with HVAC issues.  The issue today with COVID and all along remains to be the issue, is limiting exposure, this will not go away until people social distance and wear masks.  As long as people continue to congregate and dismiss the threat, people will be infected and people will continue to die.  Maybe it has to affect you personally before you take it seriously, and at the point how many people have died due to your ignorance and selfishness.  Not calling you out PJ0925; just posting in the thread.  At this point, how many restaurants, how many small businesses will no longer be able to survive because some people chose to ignore the threat and continue to do so today.  

    Don't trust a vaccine that has not had viable studies; science has come a long way, but the studies still have to be validated.  
    No it was SARS:

    https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2003/03/hong-kong-seals-apartment-building-contain-sars

    Basically it moved through the plumbing and air vents of the building.

    I mean you're not wrong -preach into the ether of the internet, it is needed.
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Stephen Hahn, the FDA commissioner, has reportedly said that he is willing to issue an emergency use authorization for a covid-19 vaccine before Phase 3 trials are completed.

    Few details were provided, but this is not precisely comforting. 

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/30/fda-covid-19-vaccine-fast-track
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  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,896
    Im of the opinion the vaccines will be in the main ok. Phase 3 trials are very important but the first 2 phases give the more critical info on if its safe in general. 
    What i cant work out is how will we know as a world,which one we use because if 3 or 4 get approved and used with differing out comes do we choose or do our governments  because usa and uk are run by headless chickens. The Oxford vaccine is one i hear most about  being in uk. And i trust them. They are the cleverest people  we have and they were deep into corona virus studies  before pandemic  came. So they already had done most of the work


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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    lastexitlondon said:
    Im of the opinion the vaccines will be in the main ok. Phase 3 trials are very important but the first 2 phases give the more critical info on if its safe in general. 
    What i cant work out is how will we know as a world,which one we use because if 3 or 4 get approved and used with differing out comes do we choose or do our governments  because usa and uk are run by headless chickens. The Oxford vaccine is one i hear most about  being in uk. And i trust them. They are the cleverest people  we have and they were deep into corona virus studies  before pandemic  came. So they already had done most of the work
    I disagree with your opinion of the usefulness of phase 3 trials in assessing safety. Phase 3 is where most of the valuable safety data typically comes from.

    For the second point, in the initial months no single company is going to be able to produce vaccine in the volumes needed so which option(s) are available to any particular person is probably going to be mostly based on geography. Over time we’ll get more data and the front runners will become clearer and more available, but initially it will be a bit of a crap shoot. 

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  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,896
    And i bet a situation  arises where some countries  maybe poorer ones may be taking several vaccines to find one affordable and efficacious so there  could  be many people taking more than one kind  could be trouble. 


    this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    edited September 2020
    Toots Hibbert (of Toots and the Maytals) in ICU in Jamaica with suspected covid-19. 

    Ay ay ay, ay ay ay. Is no lie, them a tell me.

    Rooting for you, Toots. 
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