Kamala Harris - VP Pick

OnWis97 · August 2020

oftenreading said:

Birtherism already started, with some in the GOP claiming that Harris is not eligible to be president because her parents were not citizens at the time of her birth, although that is not a requirement for citizenship.

Obviously the Party of Trump and and its Ministry of Propaganda, Q Anan, know this, but since all they really have is the culture war, this makes her look just a bit "less American." Sadly, it'll probably be at least a bit effective.

oftenreading · August 2020

Merkin Baller said:

mace1229 said:

I still haven’t found anything. Only comment from a sr legal advisor ive seen was that she sounds like Marge Simpson. Every search I make about she is ineligible comes back to the same FB post. Or coming back to how Tucker is racist because he mispronounced her name 2 days ago- but no mention how Biden mispronounced it exactly the same way in yesterday’s announcement speech.

If I'm not mistaken, the birtherism thing is coming from an Op-ed by Dr. John Eastman in Newsweek, and a separate attempt to defend his op-ed from others at Newsweek.

& fwiw, Tucker Carlson has an extensive track record of racist dog whistling... he's made his bed, he can lie in it.

Yes, picked up and retweeted by campaign officials

oftenreading · August 2020

mace1229 said:

I still haven’t found anything. Only comment from a sr legal advisor ive seen was that she sounds like Marge Simpson. Every search I make about she is ineligible comes back to the same FB post. Or coming back to how Tucker is racist because he mispronounced her name 2 days ago- but no mention how Biden mispronounced it exactly the same way in yesterday’s announcement speech.

Tucker refused to pronounce it correctly when he was corrected, got angry about the correction, said "whatever" about the idea of pronouncing someone's name correctly, and segued into "I love the idea that she's immune to criticism".

So yeah, at the very least intentionally disrespectful, and I think based on his history we can draw conclusions as to why he refused to pronounce it correctly.

Kat · August 2020

https://www.newsweek.com/editors-note-eastmans-newsweek-column-has-nothing-do-racist-birtherism-1524800

This posting below is a reply to the above article in Newsweek, not the original Eastman article.

Greygal

14 hours ago

John Eastman stepped down as Dean at the Fowler School of Law to run for Attorney General and lost to Kamala Harris. Funny how neither the original article and this editor's note both fail to mention this.

Furthermore, you state Eastman "has LITIGATED countless cases at the Supreme Court". This is misleading, if not outright false. He has FILED amicus curiae briefs ("friend of the court" briefs) on behalf of the Center for Constitutional Jurisprudence about 140 times. Filing amicus curiae briefs is NOT the same as LITIGATED.

The Center for Constitutional Jurisprudence is the public interest law arm of the Claremont Institute. John Eastman is a director of the Claremont Institute, and the founding director of the Center for Constitutional Jurisprudence.

While I was able to find only two times that Eastman *litigated* and argued a case in front of the Supreme Court, the bio page for Eastman on the Center for Constitutional Jurisprudence states that Eastman "has represented more than 20 parties before the Supreme Court of the United States." It does not state how many cases those 20 parties were involved in.

mace1229 · August 2020

oftenreading said:

mace1229 said:

I still haven’t found anything. Only comment from a sr legal advisor ive seen was that she sounds like Marge Simpson. Every search I make about she is ineligible comes back to the same FB post. Or coming back to how Tucker is racist because he mispronounced her name 2 days ago- but no mention how Biden mispronounced it exactly the same way in yesterday’s announcement speech.

Tucker refused to pronounce it correctly when he was corrected, got angry about the correction, said "whatever" about the idea of pronouncing someone's name correctly, and segued into "I love the idea that she's immune to criticism".

So yeah, at the very least intentionally disrespectful, and I think based on his history we can draw conclusions as to why he refused to pronounce it correctly.

I thought Tucker’s response was very childish, immature and disrespectful.

I also found it hilarious Biden pronounced it exactly the same way the next day.

Ledbetterman10 · August 2020

mace1229 said:

oftenreading said:

mace1229 said:

I still haven’t found anything. Only comment from a sr legal advisor ive seen was that she sounds like Marge Simpson. Every search I make about she is ineligible comes back to the same FB post. Or coming back to how Tucker is racist because he mispronounced her name 2 days ago- but no mention how Biden mispronounced it exactly the same way in yesterday’s announcement speech.

Tucker refused to pronounce it correctly when he was corrected, got angry about the correction, said "whatever" about the idea of pronouncing someone's name correctly, and segued into "I love the idea that she's immune to criticism".

So yeah, at the very least intentionally disrespectful, and I think based on his history we can draw conclusions as to why he refused to pronounce it correctly.

I thought Tucker’s response was very childish, immature and disrespectful.
I also found it hilarious Biden pronounced it exactly the same way the next day.

Yes and yes.

I don’t get why Tucker does that intentionally with Don Lemon either. He calls him Don Le-mon. I think Lemon deserves criticism like any of these cable news hosts (including Tucker), but when Tucker calls him that, it looks personal and undermines the criticism he’s trying to make.

OnWis97 · August 2020

mace1229 said:

oftenreading said:

mace1229 said:

I still haven’t found anything. Only comment from a sr legal advisor ive seen was that she sounds like Marge Simpson. Every search I make about she is ineligible comes back to the same FB post. Or coming back to how Tucker is racist because he mispronounced her name 2 days ago- but no mention how Biden mispronounced it exactly the same way in yesterday’s announcement speech.

Tucker refused to pronounce it correctly when he was corrected, got angry about the correction, said "whatever" about the idea of pronouncing someone's name correctly, and segued into "I love the idea that she's immune to criticism".

So yeah, at the very least intentionally disrespectful, and I think based on his history we can draw conclusions as to why he refused to pronounce it correctly.

I thought Tucker’s response was very childish, immature and disrespectful.
I also found it hilarious Biden pronounced it exactly the same way the next day.

Biden has an excuse, though in that he's senile and a times appears to be re-enacting Weekend at Bernie's. Tucker not only mispronounced it; he doubled-down.

mace1229 · August 2020

OnWis97 said:

mace1229 said:

oftenreading said:

mace1229 said:

I still haven’t found anything. Only comment from a sr legal advisor ive seen was that she sounds like Marge Simpson. Every search I make about she is ineligible comes back to the same FB post. Or coming back to how Tucker is racist because he mispronounced her name 2 days ago- but no mention how Biden mispronounced it exactly the same way in yesterday’s announcement speech.

Tucker refused to pronounce it correctly when he was corrected, got angry about the correction, said "whatever" about the idea of pronouncing someone's name correctly, and segued into "I love the idea that she's immune to criticism".

So yeah, at the very least intentionally disrespectful, and I think based on his history we can draw conclusions as to why he refused to pronounce it correctly.

I thought Tucker’s response was very childish, immature and disrespectful.
I also found it hilarious Biden pronounced it exactly the same way the next day.

Biden has an excuse, though in that he's senile and a times appears to be re-enacting Weekend at Bernie's. Tucker not only mispronounced it; he doubled-down.

While I still believe his response was immature, I’m not convinced mispronouncing it was intentional.
I’ve heard several people pronounce it the same way. Including a pre-taped segment today on CBS This Morning where it could have easily been dubbed before airing.

But the outrage the other media sources had just made it funny when Biden did the same thing. If not for that, I wouldn’t have thought about it once today.
But being senile to the point you can’t pronounce your running mate when you make your announcement is a scary excuse when you’re running for president. It’s going to be another election of not who do you want for president, but who are you voting against. Shocking and sad that is the best they could come up with in 3 years.

Gern Blansten · August 2020

mace1229 said:

OnWis97 said:

mace1229 said:

oftenreading said:

mace1229 said:

I still haven’t found anything. Only comment from a sr legal advisor ive seen was that she sounds like Marge Simpson. Every search I make about she is ineligible comes back to the same FB post. Or coming back to how Tucker is racist because he mispronounced her name 2 days ago- but no mention how Biden mispronounced it exactly the same way in yesterday’s announcement speech.

Tucker refused to pronounce it correctly when he was corrected, got angry about the correction, said "whatever" about the idea of pronouncing someone's name correctly, and segued into "I love the idea that she's immune to criticism".

So yeah, at the very least intentionally disrespectful, and I think based on his history we can draw conclusions as to why he refused to pronounce it correctly.

I thought Tucker’s response was very childish, immature and disrespectful.
I also found it hilarious Biden pronounced it exactly the same way the next day.

Biden has an excuse, though in that he's senile and a times appears to be re-enacting Weekend at Bernie's. Tucker not only mispronounced it; he doubled-down.

While I still believe his response was immature, I’m not convinced mispronouncing it was intentional.
I’ve heard several people pronounce it the same way. Including a pre-taped segment today on CBS This Morning where it could have easily been dubbed before airing.
But the outrage the other media sources had just made it funny when Biden did the same thing. If not for that, I wouldn’t have thought about it once today.
But being senile to the point you can’t pronounce your running mate when you make your announcement is a scary excuse when you’re running for president. It’s going to be another election of not who do you want for president, but who are you voting against. Shocking and sad that is the best they could come up with in 3 years.

Can't pronounce it? Or just wasn't told the proper pronunciation?

My wife's name is Lana (Lan - uh) but people will pronounce it (Lawn - uh) or (Lain - uh). That doesn't make them senile. It means they haven't been corrected yet

josevolution · August 2020

mace1229 said:

OnWis97 said:

mace1229 said:

oftenreading said:

mace1229 said:

I still haven’t found anything. Only comment from a sr legal advisor ive seen was that she sounds like Marge Simpson. Every search I make about she is ineligible comes back to the same FB post. Or coming back to how Tucker is racist because he mispronounced her name 2 days ago- but no mention how Biden mispronounced it exactly the same way in yesterday’s announcement speech.

Tucker refused to pronounce it correctly when he was corrected, got angry about the correction, said "whatever" about the idea of pronouncing someone's name correctly, and segued into "I love the idea that she's immune to criticism".

So yeah, at the very least intentionally disrespectful, and I think based on his history we can draw conclusions as to why he refused to pronounce it correctly.

I thought Tucker’s response was very childish, immature and disrespectful.
I also found it hilarious Biden pronounced it exactly the same way the next day.

Biden has an excuse, though in that he's senile and a times appears to be re-enacting Weekend at Bernie's. Tucker not only mispronounced it; he doubled-down.

While I still believe his response was immature, I’m not convinced mispronouncing it was intentional.
I’ve heard several people pronounce it the same way. Including a pre-taped segment today on CBS This Morning where it could have easily been dubbed before airing.
But the outrage the other media sources had just made it funny when Biden did the same thing. If not for that, I wouldn’t have thought about it once today.
But being senile to the point you can’t pronounce your running mate when you make your announcement is a scary excuse when you’re running for president. It’s going to be another election of not who do you want for president, but who are you voting against. Shocking and sad that is the best they could come up with in 3 years.

Still better than what we have at the present moment!

Ledbetterman10 · August 2020

Gern Blansten said:

mace1229 said:

OnWis97 said:

mace1229 said:

oftenreading said:

mace1229 said:

I still haven’t found anything. Only comment from a sr legal advisor ive seen was that she sounds like Marge Simpson. Every search I make about she is ineligible comes back to the same FB post. Or coming back to how Tucker is racist because he mispronounced her name 2 days ago- but no mention how Biden mispronounced it exactly the same way in yesterday’s announcement speech.

Tucker refused to pronounce it correctly when he was corrected, got angry about the correction, said "whatever" about the idea of pronouncing someone's name correctly, and segued into "I love the idea that she's immune to criticism".

So yeah, at the very least intentionally disrespectful, and I think based on his history we can draw conclusions as to why he refused to pronounce it correctly.

I thought Tucker’s response was very childish, immature and disrespectful.
I also found it hilarious Biden pronounced it exactly the same way the next day.

Biden has an excuse, though in that he's senile and a times appears to be re-enacting Weekend at Bernie's. Tucker not only mispronounced it; he doubled-down.

While I still believe his response was immature, I’m not convinced mispronouncing it was intentional.
I’ve heard several people pronounce it the same way. Including a pre-taped segment today on CBS This Morning where it could have easily been dubbed before airing.
But the outrage the other media sources had just made it funny when Biden did the same thing. If not for that, I wouldn’t have thought about it once today.
But being senile to the point you can’t pronounce your running mate when you make your announcement is a scary excuse when you’re running for president. It’s going to be another election of not who do you want for president, but who are you voting against. Shocking and sad that is the best they could come up with in 3 years.

Can't pronounce it? Or just wasn't told the proper pronunciation?

My wife's name is Lana (Lan - uh) but people will pronounce it (Lawn - uh) or (Lain - uh). That doesn't make them senile. It means they haven't been corrected yet

Oh come on. He’s debated against her, had her vetted for VP, and (presumably) has spoken to her in private leading up to the selection. I’m sure people that know your wife personally know how to pronounce her name.

mace1229 · August 2020

Ledbetterman10 said:

Gern Blansten said:

mace1229 said:

OnWis97 said:

mace1229 said:

oftenreading said:

mace1229 said:

I still haven’t found anything. Only comment from a sr legal advisor ive seen was that she sounds like Marge Simpson. Every search I make about she is ineligible comes back to the same FB post. Or coming back to how Tucker is racist because he mispronounced her name 2 days ago- but no mention how Biden mispronounced it exactly the same way in yesterday’s announcement speech.

Tucker refused to pronounce it correctly when he was corrected, got angry about the correction, said "whatever" about the idea of pronouncing someone's name correctly, and segued into "I love the idea that she's immune to criticism".

So yeah, at the very least intentionally disrespectful, and I think based on his history we can draw conclusions as to why he refused to pronounce it correctly.

I thought Tucker’s response was very childish, immature and disrespectful.
I also found it hilarious Biden pronounced it exactly the same way the next day.

Biden has an excuse, though in that he's senile and a times appears to be re-enacting Weekend at Bernie's. Tucker not only mispronounced it; he doubled-down.

While I still believe his response was immature, I’m not convinced mispronouncing it was intentional.
I’ve heard several people pronounce it the same way. Including a pre-taped segment today on CBS This Morning where it could have easily been dubbed before airing.
But the outrage the other media sources had just made it funny when Biden did the same thing. If not for that, I wouldn’t have thought about it once today.
But being senile to the point you can’t pronounce your running mate when you make your announcement is a scary excuse when you’re running for president. It’s going to be another election of not who do you want for president, but who are you voting against. Shocking and sad that is the best they could come up with in 3 years.

Can't pronounce it? Or just wasn't told the proper pronunciation?

My wife's name is Lana (Lan - uh) but people will pronounce it (Lawn - uh) or (Lain - uh). That doesn't make them senile. It means they haven't been corrected yet

Oh come on. He’s debated against her, had her vetted for VP, and (presumably) has spoken to her in private leading up to the selection. I’m sure people that know your wife personally know how to pronounce her name.

You beat me to this. Exactly. If he didn’t bother finding out how to pronounce her name, how hard did he really dig before picking a VP? That’s pretty much step 1 in vetting.
He either knew and made a mistake, or was told that morning who he was going to pick and didn’t ask any questions.

oftenreading · August 2020

mace1229 said:

OnWis97 said:

mace1229 said:

oftenreading said:

mace1229 said:

I still haven’t found anything. Only comment from a sr legal advisor ive seen was that she sounds like Marge Simpson. Every search I make about she is ineligible comes back to the same FB post. Or coming back to how Tucker is racist because he mispronounced her name 2 days ago- but no mention how Biden mispronounced it exactly the same way in yesterday’s announcement speech.

Tucker refused to pronounce it correctly when he was corrected, got angry about the correction, said "whatever" about the idea of pronouncing someone's name correctly, and segued into "I love the idea that she's immune to criticism".

So yeah, at the very least intentionally disrespectful, and I think based on his history we can draw conclusions as to why he refused to pronounce it correctly.

I thought Tucker’s response was very childish, immature and disrespectful.
I also found it hilarious Biden pronounced it exactly the same way the next day.

Biden has an excuse, though in that he's senile and a times appears to be re-enacting Weekend at Bernie's. Tucker not only mispronounced it; he doubled-down.

While I still believe his response was immature, I’m not convinced mispronouncing it was intentional.
I’ve heard several people pronounce it the same way. Including a pre-taped segment today on CBS This Morning where it could have easily been dubbed before airing.
But the outrage the other media sources had just made it funny when Biden did the same thing. If not for that, I wouldn’t have thought about it once today.
But being senile to the point you can’t pronounce your running mate when you make your announcement is a scary excuse when you’re running for president. It’s going to be another election of not who do you want for president, but who are you voting against. Shocking and sad that is the best they could come up with in 3 years.

No one was outraged that Carlson mispronounced the name, the issue was that he refused to pronounce it properly when corrected, which is a totally different ball of wax. Why would there have been any point in being outraged at Biden, when he corrected himself immediately?

mace1229 · August 2020

oftenreading said:

mace1229 said:

OnWis97 said:

mace1229 said:

oftenreading said:

mace1229 said:

I still haven’t found anything. Only comment from a sr legal advisor ive seen was that she sounds like Marge Simpson. Every search I make about she is ineligible comes back to the same FB post. Or coming back to how Tucker is racist because he mispronounced her name 2 days ago- but no mention how Biden mispronounced it exactly the same way in yesterday’s announcement speech.

Tucker refused to pronounce it correctly when he was corrected, got angry about the correction, said "whatever" about the idea of pronouncing someone's name correctly, and segued into "I love the idea that she's immune to criticism".

So yeah, at the very least intentionally disrespectful, and I think based on his history we can draw conclusions as to why he refused to pronounce it correctly.

I thought Tucker’s response was very childish, immature and disrespectful.
I also found it hilarious Biden pronounced it exactly the same way the next day.

Biden has an excuse, though in that he's senile and a times appears to be re-enacting Weekend at Bernie's. Tucker not only mispronounced it; he doubled-down.

While I still believe his response was immature, I’m not convinced mispronouncing it was intentional.
I’ve heard several people pronounce it the same way. Including a pre-taped segment today on CBS This Morning where it could have easily been dubbed before airing.
But the outrage the other media sources had just made it funny when Biden did the same thing. If not for that, I wouldn’t have thought about it once today.
But being senile to the point you can’t pronounce your running mate when you make your announcement is a scary excuse when you’re running for president. It’s going to be another election of not who do you want for president, but who are you voting against. Shocking and sad that is the best they could come up with in 3 years.

No one was outraged that Carlson mispronounced the name, the issue was that he refused to pronounce it properly when corrected, which is a totally different ball of wax. Why would there have been any point in being outraged at Biden, when he corrected himself immediately?

I never said we should be outraged at Biden. All I said was it’s funny after everything that happened with Tucker that Biden makes the same mistake like 12 hours later.
Its funny, that’s all.

You wouldn’t laugh if a person walks out of the office and steps into a deep puddle and soaks his shoes. Then the next guy watched this all happen and still steps in the same puddle?

The Juggler · August 2020

Mace, come on buddy. Tucker did it purposefully as he does often on his show to folks he doesn't like. It's an immature feature of his show. To compare that with a mispronunciation by Biden is quite a stretch, especially after Tucker mocked the guy who corrected him and still mispronounced it afterwards.

Outrage? Which right wing pundit told you there was outrage over it? lol

Halifax2TheMax · August 2020

mace1229 said:

oftenreading said:

mace1229 said:

OnWis97 said:

mace1229 said:

oftenreading said:

mace1229 said:

I still haven’t found anything. Only comment from a sr legal advisor ive seen was that she sounds like Marge Simpson. Every search I make about she is ineligible comes back to the same FB post. Or coming back to how Tucker is racist because he mispronounced her name 2 days ago- but no mention how Biden mispronounced it exactly the same way in yesterday’s announcement speech.

Tucker refused to pronounce it correctly when he was corrected, got angry about the correction, said "whatever" about the idea of pronouncing someone's name correctly, and segued into "I love the idea that she's immune to criticism".

So yeah, at the very least intentionally disrespectful, and I think based on his history we can draw conclusions as to why he refused to pronounce it correctly.

I thought Tucker’s response was very childish, immature and disrespectful.
I also found it hilarious Biden pronounced it exactly the same way the next day.

Biden has an excuse, though in that he's senile and a times appears to be re-enacting Weekend at Bernie's. Tucker not only mispronounced it; he doubled-down.

While I still believe his response was immature, I’m not convinced mispronouncing it was intentional.
I’ve heard several people pronounce it the same way. Including a pre-taped segment today on CBS This Morning where it could have easily been dubbed before airing.
But the outrage the other media sources had just made it funny when Biden did the same thing. If not for that, I wouldn’t have thought about it once today.
But being senile to the point you can’t pronounce your running mate when you make your announcement is a scary excuse when you’re running for president. It’s going to be another election of not who do you want for president, but who are you voting against. Shocking and sad that is the best they could come up with in 3 years.

No one was outraged that Carlson mispronounced the name, the issue was that he refused to pronounce it properly when corrected, which is a totally different ball of wax. Why would there have been any point in being outraged at Biden, when he corrected himself immediately?

I never said we should be outraged at Biden. All I said was it’s funny after everything that happened with Tucker that Biden makes the same mistake like 12 hours later.
Its funny, that’s all.

You wouldn’t laugh if a person walks out of the office and steps into a deep puddle and soaks his shoes. Then the next guy watched this all happen and still steps in the same puddle?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GCoGxe9IOMA

josevolution · August 2020

Ledbetterman10 said:

Gern Blansten said:

mace1229 said:

OnWis97 said:

mace1229 said:

oftenreading said:

mace1229 said:

I still haven’t found anything. Only comment from a sr legal advisor ive seen was that she sounds like Marge Simpson. Every search I make about she is ineligible comes back to the same FB post. Or coming back to how Tucker is racist because he mispronounced her name 2 days ago- but no mention how Biden mispronounced it exactly the same way in yesterday’s announcement speech.

Tucker refused to pronounce it correctly when he was corrected, got angry about the correction, said "whatever" about the idea of pronouncing someone's name correctly, and segued into "I love the idea that she's immune to criticism".

So yeah, at the very least intentionally disrespectful, and I think based on his history we can draw conclusions as to why he refused to pronounce it correctly.

I thought Tucker’s response was very childish, immature and disrespectful.
I also found it hilarious Biden pronounced it exactly the same way the next day.

Biden has an excuse, though in that he's senile and a times appears to be re-enacting Weekend at Bernie's. Tucker not only mispronounced it; he doubled-down.

While I still believe his response was immature, I’m not convinced mispronouncing it was intentional.
I’ve heard several people pronounce it the same way. Including a pre-taped segment today on CBS This Morning where it could have easily been dubbed before airing.
But the outrage the other media sources had just made it funny when Biden did the same thing. If not for that, I wouldn’t have thought about it once today.
But being senile to the point you can’t pronounce your running mate when you make your announcement is a scary excuse when you’re running for president. It’s going to be another election of not who do you want for president, but who are you voting against. Shocking and sad that is the best they could come up with in 3 years.

Can't pronounce it? Or just wasn't told the proper pronunciation?

My wife's name is Lana (Lan - uh) but people will pronounce it (Lawn - uh) or (Lain - uh). That doesn't make them senile. It means they haven't been corrected yet

Oh come on. He’s debated against her, had her vetted for VP, and (presumably) has spoken to her in private leading up to the selection. I’m sure people that know your wife personally know how to pronounce her name.

lol yeah I’m not voting for Biden because he miss pronounced her name..

Halifax2TheMax · August 2020

So name shaming is okay now?

The Juggler · August 2020

Halifax2TheMax said:

So name shaming is okay now?

unreal

josevolution · August 2020

The Juggler said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

So name shaming is okay now?

unreal

lol

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