Anyone here tried this new thing called "jogging" ?

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  • Purple Fairy Tree
    Purple Fairy Tree Posts: 2,055
    F Me I like like your running playlist 
  • 1ThoughtKnown
    1ThoughtKnown Posts: 6,155
    edited July 2020
    Sunday morning will be the first 8 mile run of my life. It’s also the halfway-point in our training to run a half marathon in October. 
    I’m averaging between 9:50 -10:30 a mile on shorter runs and just under 11:00 miles on the long runs. This training program I found online has been excellent. Steady progress with no injuries.  I’m not worried about speed at all (you get faster naturally with time) but the10:30 mile pace is very comfortable to me on the 3-4 mile runs early in the week. Very happy and for the first time in my life I am enjoying running (the improvement in shoe technology has a lot to do with that) 


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  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,801
    1ThoughtKnown said:
    Sunday morning will be the first 8 mile run of my life. It’s also the halfway-point in our training to run a half marathon in October. 
    I’m averaging between 9:50 -10:30 a mile on shorter runs and just under 11:00 miles on the long runs. This training program I found online has been excellent. Steady progress with no injuries.  I’m not worried about speed at all (you get faster naturally with time) but the10:30 mile pace is very comfortable to me on the 3-4 mile runs early in the week. Very happy and for the first time in my life I am enjoying running (the improvement in shoe technology has a lot to do with that) 


    That's great!
    Hal Higdon (whose books/training I follow) suggests that your long runs can be 60-90 seconds slower than your race pace, so it sounds like you are right on with that.

    One thing I am curious about - what does your program say to do for liquid and food intake as the runs start to get longer?

    If I know I'm going to be over am hour I eat gel packs as I go.  This morning for the 8 miles I popped one with caffeine at around 3.5 miles and a second without caffeine at 5.5 miles.
    Was wishing for some water with how humid and hot it is out so next Saturday I will carry something to drink a bit of.  

    A lesson I took from the half I ran last year was to drink Gatorade vs water and to drink more.  I was trying to hold off and just drink small amounts of water every few miles and take the energy from the gel packs but I cramped pretty badly starting at Mile 9 and the hills on the last few miles were unpleasant.  
    No way to really know what works for you until you practice it, and my friends who do Iron Man's and Marathons all encouraged me to practice eating/drinking more leading up to the half....but there was no way to simulate how hard I would run in such a large pack of people and how my body would react.

    Live and learn!


    Best part about running in the morning?
    I got back in at around 7 and my son was there to greet me....have the whole day in front of us.
    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • 1ThoughtKnown
    1ThoughtKnown Posts: 6,155
    F Me In The Brain said:
    1ThoughtKnown said:
    Sunday morning will be the first 8 mile run of my life. It’s also the halfway-point in our training to run a half marathon in October. 
    I’m averaging between 9:50 -10:30 a mile on shorter runs and just under 11:00 miles on the long runs. This training program I found online has been excellent. Steady progress with no injuries.  I’m not worried about speed at all (you get faster naturally with time) but the10:30 mile pace is very comfortable to me on the 3-4 mile runs early in the week. Very happy and for the first time in my life I am enjoying running (the improvement in shoe technology has a lot to do with that) 


    That's great!
    Hal Higdon (whose books/training I follow) suggests that your long runs can be 60-90 seconds slower than your race pace, so it sounds like you are right on with that.

    One thing I am curious about - what does your program say to do for liquid and food intake as the runs start to get longer?

    If I know I'm going to be over am hour I eat gel packs as I go.  This morning for the 8 miles I popped one with caffeine at around 3.5 miles and a second without caffeine at 5.5 miles.
    Was wishing for some water with how humid and hot it is out so next Saturday I will carry something to drink a bit of.  

    A lesson I took from the half I ran last year was to drink Gatorade vs water and to drink more.  I was trying to hold off and just drink small amounts of water every few miles and take the energy from the gel packs but I cramped pretty badly starting at Mile 9 and the hills on the last few miles were unpleasant.  
    No way to really know what works for you until you practice it, and my friends who do Iron Man's and Marathons all encouraged me to practice eating/drinking more leading up to the half....but there was no way to simulate how hard I would run in such a large pack of people and how my body would react.

    Live and learn!


    Best part about running in the morning?
    I got back in at around 7 and my son was there to greet me....have the whole day in front of us.
    Great question. I’m not sure how I will react to be honest 😂. I haven’t brought/carried water or anything for a run yet. I take in a lot of water everyday, so the risk of dehydration is low. It has been far more humid in Calgary than usual, but I’ve managed. 
    The shorter runs have been done mainly after work in the evening... the long run is done on Sunday on an empty stomach (so far).  Amazingly, I have yet to get a stitch/cramp since we started. 

    Now,’the hottest it’s been here this summer is 28C (I think) and that was a day off. The evening does bring the wind from the mountains and combined with the humidity my Tuesday evening recovery run was tough... caffeine would have helped... interesting idea to carry a few pills and gel packs. Thanks for the advice/encouragement 👍
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,801
    Something to think about.  When I did the half it was about 30 F, so pretty cold.  Still sweat a lot and got cramps on my legs.
    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • GlowGirl
    GlowGirl New York, NY Posts: 12,065
    1ThoughtKnown said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    1ThoughtKnown said:
    Sunday morning will be the first 8 mile run of my life. It’s also the halfway-point in our training to run a half marathon in October. 
    I’m averaging between 9:50 -10:30 a mile on shorter runs and just under 11:00 miles on the long runs. This training program I found online has been excellent. Steady progress with no injuries.  I’m not worried about speed at all (you get faster naturally with time) but the10:30 mile pace is very comfortable to me on the 3-4 mile runs early in the week. Very happy and for the first time in my life I am enjoying running (the improvement in shoe technology has a lot to do with that) 


    That's great!
    Hal Higdon (whose books/training I follow) suggests that your long runs can be 60-90 seconds slower than your race pace, so it sounds like you are right on with that.

    One thing I am curious about - what does your program say to do for liquid and food intake as the runs start to get longer?

    If I know I'm going to be over am hour I eat gel packs as I go.  This morning for the 8 miles I popped one with caffeine at around 3.5 miles and a second without caffeine at 5.5 miles.
    Was wishing for some water with how humid and hot it is out so next Saturday I will carry something to drink a bit of.  

    A lesson I took from the half I ran last year was to drink Gatorade vs water and to drink more.  I was trying to hold off and just drink small amounts of water every few miles and take the energy from the gel packs but I cramped pretty badly starting at Mile 9 and the hills on the last few miles were unpleasant.  
    No way to really know what works for you until you practice it, and my friends who do Iron Man's and Marathons all encouraged me to practice eating/drinking more leading up to the half....but there was no way to simulate how hard I would run in such a large pack of people and how my body would react.

    Live and learn!


    Best part about running in the morning?
    I got back in at around 7 and my son was there to greet me....have the whole day in front of us.
    Great question. I’m not sure how I will react to be honest 😂. I haven’t brought/carried water or anything for a run yet. I take in a lot of water everyday, so the risk of dehydration is low. It has been far more humid in Calgary than usual, but I’ve managed. 
    The shorter runs have been done mainly after work in the evening... the long run is done on Sunday on an empty stomach (so far).  Amazingly, I have yet to get a stitch/cramp since we started. 

    Now,’the hottest it’s been here this summer is 28C (I think) and that was a day off. The evening does bring the wind from the mountains and combined with the humidity my Tuesday evening recovery run was tough... caffeine would have helped... interesting idea to carry a few pills and gel packs. Thanks for the advice/encouragement 👍
    I don’t run as many miles as you and F Me. I did 4.5 miles this morning. But I have been carrying water with me since it has gotten hotter and it helps. But F Me is right about the Gatorade. On longer runs you don’t only have to worry about dehydration but sodium depletion from sweating. That can cause cramps. I even read that some long distance runners carry salt packs with them. I haven’t researched it too much since I haven’t run more than 5 miles at a time yet (hoping to add more in the Fall). But it sounds like your runs are getting longer. So, you may want to look into it. Congrats on coming so far. Maybe when it cools down a bit I will checking out the training plan you have been using. 
  • 1ThoughtKnown
    1ThoughtKnown Posts: 6,155
    GlowGirl said:
    1ThoughtKnown said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    1ThoughtKnown said:
    Sunday morning will be the first 8 mile run of my life. It’s also the halfway-point in our training to run a half marathon in October. 
    I’m averaging between 9:50 -10:30 a mile on shorter runs and just under 11:00 miles on the long runs. This training program I found online has been excellent. Steady progress with no injuries.  I’m not worried about speed at all (you get faster naturally with time) but the10:30 mile pace is very comfortable to me on the 3-4 mile runs early in the week. Very happy and for the first time in my life I am enjoying running (the improvement in shoe technology has a lot to do with that) 


    That's great!
    Hal Higdon (whose books/training I follow) suggests that your long runs can be 60-90 seconds slower than your race pace, so it sounds like you are right on with that.

    One thing I am curious about - what does your program say to do for liquid and food intake as the runs start to get longer?

    If I know I'm going to be over am hour I eat gel packs as I go.  This morning for the 8 miles I popped one with caffeine at around 3.5 miles and a second without caffeine at 5.5 miles.
    Was wishing for some water with how humid and hot it is out so next Saturday I will carry something to drink a bit of.  

    A lesson I took from the half I ran last year was to drink Gatorade vs water and to drink more.  I was trying to hold off and just drink small amounts of water every few miles and take the energy from the gel packs but I cramped pretty badly starting at Mile 9 and the hills on the last few miles were unpleasant.  
    No way to really know what works for you until you practice it, and my friends who do Iron Man's and Marathons all encouraged me to practice eating/drinking more leading up to the half....but there was no way to simulate how hard I would run in such a large pack of people and how my body would react.

    Live and learn!


    Best part about running in the morning?
    I got back in at around 7 and my son was there to greet me....have the whole day in front of us.
    Great question. I’m not sure how I will react to be honest 😂. I haven’t brought/carried water or anything for a run yet. I take in a lot of water everyday, so the risk of dehydration is low. It has been far more humid in Calgary than usual, but I’ve managed. 
    The shorter runs have been done mainly after work in the evening... the long run is done on Sunday on an empty stomach (so far).  Amazingly, I have yet to get a stitch/cramp since we started. 

    Now,’the hottest it’s been here this summer is 28C (I think) and that was a day off. The evening does bring the wind from the mountains and combined with the humidity my Tuesday evening recovery run was tough... caffeine would have helped... interesting idea to carry a few pills and gel packs. Thanks for the advice/encouragement 👍
    I don’t run as many miles as you and F Me. I did 4.5 miles this morning. But I have been carrying water with me since it has gotten hotter and it helps. But F Me is right about the Gatorade. On longer runs you don’t only have to worry about dehydration but sodium depletion from sweating. That can cause cramps. I even read that some long distance runners carry salt packs with them. I haven’t researched it too much since I haven’t run more than 5 miles at a time yet (hoping to add more in the Fall). But it sounds like your runs are getting longer. So, you may want to look into it. Congrats on coming so far. Maybe when it cools down a bit I will checking out the training plan you have been using. 
    That’s a great idea. Thanks! 
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    I used to use little energy chews when if I was doing a long and strenuous climbing session. It hadn't occurred to me to take them out when I run. I'll definitely consider that.

    I hate carrying water with me when I'm running, and luckily it usually doesn't get hot enough here that I feel I really need it. If I was doing much more than 10 km I probably would, though. 
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  • 1ThoughtKnown
    1ThoughtKnown Posts: 6,155
    oftenreading said:
    I used to use little energy chews when if I was doing a long and strenuous climbing session. It hadn't occurred to me to take them out when I run. I'll definitely consider that.

    I hate carrying water with me when I'm running, and luckily it usually doesn't get hot enough here that I feel I really need it. If I was doing much more than 10 km I probably would, though. 
    That’s the thing for me! I have only just gotten used to the iPhone in my pocket for Runkeeper to track distance and pace. I can’t imagine having a belt or pack sack on with water and gel packs, etc. It just seems so cumbersome.  Push comes to shove I would probably prefer a small backpack to a belt (I hate belts of any kind, built like a fire hydrant and they are uncomfortable). 
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,801
    Most running shorts have a pocket in the back, you can get sweatbands with pockets.  Arm wrap for cell phone.
    The problem for me is liquids.  
    The other stuff is easy and weighs nothing.
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  • bbiggs
    bbiggs Posts: 6,964
    I ran yesterday at 1:00 pm...right in the heat of the day. Not a cloud in the sky and hot AF (~90 degrees F without heat index). Let me tell you, running at that time is just dumb. I deserved the misery I endured 😂.  Based on other commitments in the morning and afternoon that was my only shot. Glad I got it in. As for playlist...I dusted off Sublime for the entire run. Solid running music. 
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,801
    Laughed at the running on heat description.

    Sublime would work well, for me, I think.
    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • bbiggs
    bbiggs Posts: 6,964
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Laughed at the running on heat description.

    Sublime would work well, for me, I think.
    Give it a shot bud. If you like sublime my guess is you would dig it. Upbeat tempo for sure. 
  • 1ThoughtKnown
    1ThoughtKnown Posts: 6,155


    We aren’t fast... but this felt good at this pace. Felt like I could go farther and even had a little kick for the last quarter mile. Loving the progress. 
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,801
    Used Sublime while mowing today, was great

    That is great progress, 1TN!
    Important to stay on schedule...if you feel good work to make your last mile your fastest.  I always try to do that when I'm feeling good and it is a satisfying way to end.

    Running along the river looks like a good path to take 
    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • GlowGirl
    GlowGirl New York, NY Posts: 12,065
    1ThoughtKnown said:


    We aren’t fast... but this felt good at this pace. Felt like I could go farther and even had a little kick for the last quarter mile. Loving the progress. 
    That is awesome. Wow. Look at all those calories burned. Treat yourself to something delicious tonight  👏👏
  • GlowGirl
    GlowGirl New York, NY Posts: 12,065
    edited July 2020
    I noticed this week when I updated my running app it is now including cadence in my stats. I think that is how many steps you take in a minute in terms of how long your stride is. Mine was 163. Is this yet another thing I have to monitor while running or is it not a big deal?
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  • 1ThoughtKnown
    1ThoughtKnown Posts: 6,155
    Thanks FMe and GG! 
    I’m a big fella so tend to burn more calories than the average bloke lol
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    GlowGirl said:
    I noticed this week when I updated my running app it is now including cadence in my stats. I think that is how many steps you take in a minute in terms of how long your stride is. Mine was 163. Is this yet another thing I have to monitor while running or is it not a big deal?
    https://www.outsideonline.com/2377976/stop-overthinking-your-running-cadence

    This is an excellent article on the matter
  • GlowGirl
    GlowGirl New York, NY Posts: 12,065
    PJNB said:
    GlowGirl said:
    I noticed this week when I updated my running app it is now including cadence in my stats. I think that is how many steps you take in a minute in terms of how long your stride is. Mine was 163. Is this yet another thing I have to monitor while running or is it not a big deal?
    https://www.outsideonline.com/2377976/stop-overthinking-your-running-cadence

    This is an excellent article on the matter
    Thanks. Interesting article. My takeaway was don’t worry about it. 

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