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    dignin said:
    Haha, yeah, that must be it.

    This makes way more sense than what all the experts have been saying for months.

    DeSantis is the victim of miss happenstance. There was nothing he could have done to curb the virus, nobody saw it coming.

    Haha.
    We know the northeast was hit the hardest early on, and now because the spread was slowed for a couple of months it is now spiking in other highly populated areas that took some time to get to because of the measures that were put into place. Slowing the spread was the whole objective, correct? That is coming from the experts, unless you were listening to trump I certainly didn't believe a virus was just going to disappear. So wouldn't it make sense that the states hit first would be in a better position currently? Don't forget that testing is on a whole other level than it was early on as well, do you think if tests were being performed like they are now the overall case numbers wouldn't look drastically different? It is not rocket science and is another way of evaluating something without allowing political bias to control your thought process. I am looking at this as a whole, I do not participate in the my state is better than your state playground bullshit. Am I right? I am not claiming to be, this is a forum for discussion and it is certainly something to consider.
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    So what makes a state a "mouth-breather" state? 
    I’d like to know this as well
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    JimmyV said:
    The question of whether or not to return kids to school is our Kobayashi Maru.
    Where's J. Tiberius Kirk to cheat the system when you need him?
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    edited July 2020
    JW269453 said:
     Don't forget that testing is on a whole other level than it was early on as well, do you think if tests were being performed like they are now the overall case numbers wouldn't look drastically different? It is not rocket science and is another way of evaluating something without allowing political bias to control your thought process. 
    If there was less testing, there'd be less confirmed cases, but the infection rate would be the same, or likely higher as some folks who didn't know for sure they had it would continue to interact with and infect others. Greater volume of testing isn't accounting for the increase in numbers now, poor adherence to social distancing and other safety protocols (especially mask wearing) is. That's why hospitilizations are surging in Ca, FL, TX, AZ and GA amongst others. And those who claim "the fatality rate is lower" like Trump, Pence DeSantis and kemp all have recently are ignoring the simple scientific fact of the lag. People don't contract the virus and drop dead immediately. The contract, get sick, get sicker, go to hospital, go to ICU, then die. Takes a few weeks on average.
    And look at death tolls in those states this week compared to 2-3 weeks ago, they have risen dramatically (FL reporting triple digit deaths daily now), and will continue to do so.
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    nicknyr15 said:
    You’re so funny. Honestly. Borderline insane with your weird phrases, nicknames and now hashtags. Never said you stopped me, nor would you ever. I just said it went right to Trump. If I brought up a roll of Duct tape, you’d bring up Trump. It’s who you are. You can’t help it. It’s all good. 
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    Team Trump Treason Tape? That shit don’t stick, yo!
    😂😂 ok. You got me! That’s good. 
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    edited July 2020
    Poncier said:
    If there was less testing, there'd be less confirmed cases, but the infection rate would be the same, or likely higher as some folks who didn't know for sure they had it would continue to interact with and infect others. Greater volume of testing isn't accounting for the increase in numbers now, poor adherence to social distancing and other safety protocols (especially mask wearing) is. That's why hospitilizations are surging in Ca, FL, TX, AZ and GA amongst others. And those who claim "the fatality rate is lower" like Trump, Pence DeSantis and kemp all have recently are ignoring the simple scientific fact of the lag. People don't contract the virus and drop dead immediately. The contract, get sick, get sicker, go to hospital, go to ICU, then die. Takes a few weeks on average.
    And look at death tolls in those states this week compared to 2-3 weeks ago, they have risen dramatically (FL reporting triple digit deaths daily now), and will continue to do so.
    I was saying the confirmed cases in the northeast would look drastically different had testing been available as it is now. I don't care about case numbers because we all know it is not an accurate representation due to those who are asymptomatic, but it seems that is what many people focus on. I think deaths paint a more accurate picture when it comes to the widespread presence of the virus and the areas where it is currently moving through will undoubtedly see a major increase in death over the next month or so. Much like the northeast was when it was ravaging them.

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    static111 said:
    I’d like to know this as well
    As I mentioned in my post above, this is presumably a term commonly used around here for people that reside in red states.  Republicans = mouth breathers.  At least according to some of the 10C faithful. 

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    JW269453 said:
    I was saying the confirmed cases in the northeast would look drastically different had testing been available as it is now. I don't care about case numbers because we all know it is not an accurate representation due to those who are asymptomatic, but it seems that is what many people focus on. I think deaths paint a more accurate picture when it comes to the widespread presence of the virus and the areas where it is currently moving through will undoubtedly see a major increase in death over the next month or so. Much like the northeast was when it was ravaging them.

    Got ya. Yes if testing were higher in March and April, confirmed cases in the northeast would certainly have been higher, the testing back then was focused on strictly those either with symptoms or who had come in contact with someone who tested positive or folks who had traveled before lock downs. So likely plenty of asymptomatic folks never got tested (and still aren't everywhere) and added to the spread of things, especially early on before any stay at home orders. But hospitilization and deaths wouldn't have changed much, those as you say are the real key indicators. Also percent of positive testing, which is currently higher in FLA than it ever was in NY, a very troubling sign.
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    bbiggs said:
    As I mentioned in my post above, this is presumably a term commonly used around here for people that reside in red states.  Republicans = mouth breathers.  At least according to some of the 10C faithful. 

    Its an ignorant way of painting folks with a broad brush and doesn't make liberals look very liberal or very affable.
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    bbiggs said:
    As I mentioned in my post above, this is presumably a term commonly used around here for people that reside in red states.  Republicans = mouth breathers.  At least according to some of the 10C faithful. 


    /ˈmouTHˌ brēT͟Hər/
    noun
    INFORMAL
    1. a stupid person.
    Definitions from Oxford Languages

    If a state (or person) votes for Trump....does the shoe fit?

    I'm not stating they are, just asking the question.
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    Thoughts and prayers to the mouth breather states.
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  • Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    When my allergies are really bad and I have to breath through my mouth, I get this weird overwhelming fear that I'm becoming a right wing Republican.  Damn those Republican pollination trees and plants!  
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    JimmyV said:
    Thoughts and prayers to the mouth breather states.
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    dignin said:

    /ˈmouTHˌ brēT͟Hər/
    noun
    INFORMAL
    1. a stupid person.
    Definitions from Oxford Languages

    If a state (or person) votes for Trump....does the shoe fit?

    I'm not stating they are, just asking the question.
    Annnnnd going to let this opportunity to by to add about ten terms to the list which I also use.

    The shoe does fit, imo.  Fits well.
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    Poncier said:
    Its an ignorant way of painting folks with a broad brush and doesn't make liberals look very liberal or very affable.
    Agreed. 
  • Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    Gotta say, though, judge a person by the quality of their mind, the goodness of their heart, and the fruit of their deeds, not some label. 
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    63 million Americans voted for Donald Trump. If we are judging people, they deserved to be judged for that.
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  • New Jersey Posts: 29,117
    Just received this email from my son's school (he lives with my ex):
    Phase 1: ● Start of school through on or about September 25th (to be reassessed and communicated by September 20th): A/B alternating days, single session schedule ● Students in Cohort A will attend in-person school on Mondays and Wednesdays for a single session day. Remote learning will be on Tuesday and Thursday for a single session day schedule. ● Students in Cohort B will attend in-person school on Tuesdays and Thursdays for a single session day. Remote learning will be on Monday and Wednesdays for a single session day schedule. ● Students in our preschool disabilities program, in special education--self-contained placement, homeless, or in our English as a Second-Language Program will attend in-person school from Monday-Thursday for a single session day. ● Friday will be a remote learning day for all on a single session day schedule.

    Phase 2: ● On or about September 29th through October 30th (to be reassessed and communicated by October 20th): A/B alternating days, full session schedule. ● Students in Cohort A will attend in-person school on Mondays and Wednesdays for a full session day. Remote learning will be on Tuesday and Thursday following a full session day schedule. ● Students in Cohort B will attend in-person school on Tuesdays and Thursdays for a full session day. Remote learning will be on Monday and Wednesdays for a full session day schedule.
    ● Students in our preschool disabilities program, in special education--self-contained placement, homeless, or in our English as a Second-Language Program, will attend in-person live school from Monday to Thursday for a full session day. ● Friday will be a remote learning day for all for a single session day.

    Phase 3: ● On or about November 2nd- until social distancing guidelines are relaxed. A/B alternating days, full session schedule, including Fridays. ● Students in Cohort A will attend in-person school on Mondays and Wednesdays for a full session day. Remote learning will be on Tuesday and Thursday following a full session day schedule. ● Students in Cohort B will attend in-person school on Tuesdays and Thursdays for a full session day. Remote learning will be on Monday and Wednesdays for a full session day schedule. ● Students in our preschool disabilities program, in special education--self-contained placement, homeless, or in our English as a Second-Language Program will attend in-person live school from Monday-Friday for a full session day. ● Friday will be an alternating (Cohort A/B) in-person day for all for a full-day schedule.
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