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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    My 27 year old son got his 1st Pfizer shot on Thursday. Friday he had a sore arm and body aches. Saturday felt fine. Sunday he got the worst headache he said he's ever had, fever (101) body aches, cough and painful pressure in his sinuses. Monday he felt somewhat better. This morning he got a rapid covid test and it's positive. He now is experiencing shortness of breath, difficulty breathing in deeply along with the other symptoms. He is very healthy with no pre-existing conditions but his wife is keeping an eye on him because he's the "oh I'll be fine" type about everything.

    He was out to dinner last Tuesday night with clients who have all been fully vaccinated (hospital administrators). My guess is that's where he got it because other than that, he wears a mask quite diligently.

    I was over at his house for about 15-20 minutes on Friday so I'm getting a test tomorrow just in case, though I have no symptoms.

    Man I'm tired of all this,  as we all are.


    I hope he’ll be alright!
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845
    My 27 year old son got his 1st Pfizer shot on Thursday. Friday he had a sore arm and body aches. Saturday felt fine. Sunday he got the worst headache he said he's ever had, fever (101) body aches, cough and painful pressure in his sinuses. Monday he felt somewhat better. This morning he got a rapid covid test and it's positive. He now is experiencing shortness of breath, difficulty breathing in deeply along with the other symptoms. He is very healthy with no pre-existing conditions but his wife is keeping an eye on him because he's the "oh I'll be fine" type about everything.

    He was out to dinner last Tuesday night with clients who have all been fully vaccinated (hospital administrators). My guess is that's where he got it because other than that, he wears a mask quite diligently.

    I was over at his house for about 15-20 minutes on Friday so I'm getting a test tomorrow just in case, though I have no symptoms.

    Man I'm tired of all this,  as we all are.


    Damn, that’s terrible luck. Hope you all get a dose of better luck soon. 
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  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,930
    edited February 2021
    82 yr old father refuses to  get one..
    My folks at 70 are saying the same thing.  Don’t trust the vaccine and because they don’t know anyone seriously ill from it then it won’t impact them if they get it.
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  • 23scidoo23scidoo Posts: 19,233
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  • 23scidoo23scidoo Posts: 19,233
    Luc Antoine Montagnier is a French virologist and joint recipient, with Françoise Barré-Sinoussi and Harald zur Hausen, of the 2008 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine for his discovery of the human immunodeficiency virus.
    Couldn't find anything in English(??), so you should found someone who speaks french..

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  • 82 yr old father refuses to  get one..
    My folks at 70 are saying the same thing.  Don’t trust the vaccine and because they don’t know anyone seriously ill from it then it won’t impact them if they get it.
    I don't see a problem with being wary or scared of a vaccine being pushed out in such a short time and with it not having a history of being used. I mean, that is how people are with first versions of new videogames too and waiting a bit to see so you won't get a Red ring of death-debacle on your hands.

    I do have a problem with people not taking the vaccine though.


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  • dankinddankind Posts: 20,839
    edited February 2021
    82 yr old father refuses to  get one..
    My folks at 70 are saying the same thing.  Don’t trust the vaccine and because they don’t know anyone seriously ill from it then it won’t impact them if they get it.
    I don't see a problem with being wary or scared of a vaccine being pushed out in such a short time and with it not having a history of being used. I mean, that is how people are with first versions of new videogames too and waiting a bit to see so you won't get a Red ring of death-debacle on your hands.

    I do have a problem with people not taking the vaccine though.


    My (old as fuck) in-laws aren’t getting it. My wife is pissed and said that she still won’t let them see their grandkids even after we’re vaccinated. 

    I told her at this point, her parents have made their choice. If they die of Covid-19 after having us over for Thanksgiving or something, they made that choice. 

    Humanity did all it could, and they told humanity to fuck right off. Bully for them, I guess. 
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  • lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 13,784
    edited February 2021
    A lady where my brother  works refused the vaccine  and she has had cancer .  She is now getting  bullied and senior  staff are continuing to question  her and put pressure  on her. 
    I'm pro vaccine  .I will get mine when I'm offered for sure. My mum is getting  hers tomorrow  but its everyones  choice and as a  long term  chronic health  anxiety person I can see why the worry and why people may not want to. 
    But we are as a human race. In a race against time here. And I believe  its my duty when offered  to take a vaccine .


    Its not over  for anyone.  Until its over for everyone.!
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  • 23scidoo23scidoo Posts: 19,233
    A lady where my brother  works refused the vaccine  and she has had cancer .  She is now getting  bullied and senior  staff are continuing to question  her and put pressure  on her. 
    I'm pro vaccine  .I will get mine when I'm offered for sure. My mum is getting  hers tomorrow  but its everyones  choice and as a  long term  chronic health  anxiety person I can see why the worry and why people may not want to. 
    But we are as a human race. In a race against time here. And I believe  its my duty when offered  to take a vaccine .


    Its not over  for anyone.  Until its over for everyone.!
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739
    South Africa has suspended the use of the astra Zeneca vaccine.

    South Africa in shock after AstraZeneca vaccine rollout halted


    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-55999678




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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    hedonist said:
    For those of you who have been vaccinated and had some strong effects, did you take any fever or pain reducers? gambo, anything usually used for your migraines utilized this time?
    I take NSAIDs for migraines but they rarely (if ever) help.
    I skipped taking anything yesterday, inflammation is a natural part of the immune response and I didn't want to do anything to lessen the desired immune response the vaccine induces.
    The jury is out on whether that minor immune suppression is detrimental, but I figured since it doesn't usually help, I'd just tough it out.  It was a long day, but I'm good as new today and Dr. Gambs only had a minor headache and minor fatigue...if I don't have any migraines within the next month or so then I will just consider it my regularly scheduled day of misery lol
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    The arm soreness was way worse than any other vaccine, but I lift weights every day so I am accustomed to sore muscles.
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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    rgambs said:
    hedonist said:
    For those of you who have been vaccinated and had some strong effects, did you take any fever or pain reducers? gambo, anything usually used for your migraines utilized this time?
    I take NSAIDs for migraines but they rarely (if ever) help.
    I skipped taking anything yesterday, inflammation is a natural part of the immune response and I didn't want to do anything to lessen the desired immune response the vaccine induces.
    The jury is out on whether that minor immune suppression is detrimental, but I figured since it doesn't usually help, I'd just tough it out.  It was a long day, but I'm good as new today and Dr. Gambs only had a minor headache and minor fatigue...if I don't have any migraines within the next month or so then I will just consider it my regularly scheduled day of misery lol
    That makes sense; perhaps also why pre-vax prophylactic methods are discouraged. 
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845
    Something to think about - all of the COVID viral particles in the world would fit inside a soft drink can 

     https://apple.news/APBlWw6-rSYSC03WBGgconA 


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  • At one of her regular televised Covid briefings in early December, Gov. Gina Raimondo of Rhode Island addressed the residents of her state to deliver a round of bad news. “I’m not going to sugarcoat this,” Raimondo said. “It’s getting scary in Rhode Island.” In the previous week, a daily average of 123.5 out of every 100,000 people in the state tested positive, which suggested, by that measure, that Rhode Island was the most Covid-infected region per capita in the country, which was to say the world. Stern and matter-of-fact, Raimondo urged viewers to do their part by not socializing; encouraged residents to take advantage of the state’s plentiful testing facilities; gave a thank-you to school leaders and teachers for all their hard work; and then paused for what seemed like the first time in 30 minutes, as if she considered all she had said so far to be preamble and she was only now getting to the heart of her message.

    “Every day that a child is out of school,” she said, “is a problem for that child.” She shook her head slowly as she spoke. As bad as the numbers were in Rhode Island, she was about to bear down on a conviction she had held since the spring: Schools must remain open for in-person learning.



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  • dankinddankind Posts: 20,839
    Something to think about - all of the COVID viral particles in the world would fit inside a soft drink can 

     https://apple.news/APBlWw6-rSYSC03WBGgconA 


    Ooh, I can think of someone who has a Diet Coke button and possible herd immunity.
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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,890
    edited February 2021
    dankind said:
    Something to think about - all of the COVID viral particles in the world would fit inside a soft drink can 

     https://apple.news/APBlWw6-rSYSC03WBGgconA 


    Ooh, I can think of someone who has a Diet Coke button and possible herd immunity.
    Or is that herd mentality? 

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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739
    Ontario plans to cancel March Break or postpone to stop the spread.  The schools here were closed 2 weeks before Xmas and just re-opened this week...

    Gotta love government logic...close the schools to stop the spread, cancel March Break to stop the spread...my thinking is they are just fucking with the teachers...teachers and school staff need a break.  It’s not like teachers were not teaching...they were teaching online.

    I work in schools.  Schools are not safe.  27 kids piled into classrooms that were meant for 20 is not SAFE.

    The only reason they push to keep schools open is to continue the baby sitter services that parents have become dependent upon.
     
    If schools are open, then small business can operate...

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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739
    We are doing GREAT in Canada with vaccines...2.4% of the population has received a dose and a whopping 1/2 % have received  2 doses...

    We cracked the top 50 in the world on vaccines...

    Our great PM is doing a bang up job getting us vaccines...lol
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,435
    Ontario plans to cancel March Break or postpone to stop the spread.  The schools here were closed 2 weeks before Xmas and just re-opened this week...

    Gotta love government logic...close the schools to stop the spread, cancel March Break to stop the spread...my thinking is they are just fucking with the teachers...teachers and school staff need a break.  It’s not like teachers were not teaching...they were teaching online.

    I work in schools.  Schools are not safe.  27 kids piled into classrooms that were meant for 20 is not SAFE.

    The only reason they push to keep schools open is to continue the baby sitter services that parents have become dependent upon.
     
    If schools are open, then small business can operate...

    I was listening to Morning Joe today.  I hadn't verified but most health officials say that kids should be in school now.

    As I have said all along, my daughter is in person learning in school since august.  <2% of positive cases of kids have been due to in school transmission.  The protocols are working.  And in fact, where they had in school transmission it was a special needs class where masks weren't required and it was early on.  
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  • My grade 6er has been in full time school all year. my grade 9er is half days. confirmed transmission in schools is super low. and the benefits far outweigh the risks. to call it babysitting is an insult to teachers. 
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739
    Ontario plans to cancel March Break or postpone to stop the spread.  The schools here were closed 2 weeks before Xmas and just re-opened this week...

    Gotta love government logic...close the schools to stop the spread, cancel March Break to stop the spread...my thinking is they are just fucking with the teachers...teachers and school staff need a break.  It’s not like teachers were not teaching...they were teaching online.

    I work in schools.  Schools are not safe.  27 kids piled into classrooms that were meant for 20 is not SAFE.

    The only reason they push to keep schools open is to continue the baby sitter services that parents have become dependent upon.
     
    If schools are open, then small business can operate...

    I was listening to Morning Joe today.  I hadn't verified but most health officials say that kids should be in school now.

    As I have said all along, my daughter is in person learning in school since august.  <2% of positive cases of kids have been due to in school transmission.  The protocols are working.  And in fact, where they had in school transmission it was a special needs class where masks weren't required and it was early on.  
    Give me a break.  So it’s all right to put school staff at risk?  Schooling is a big part of society, but it also can be done much safer online...and these kids will survive.   If my grandfather (ww1) and uncles can go off to war at 18 and then lead very productive lives?  Are these the same health officials that keep Big box stores open, but advise to close small business?  Are these the same health officials who sat with their thumb up their ass for the last 20 years while millions have died or become addicted to opioids?  Why did they not speak up?  We are raising a generation of pussies...

    a small business can manage Covid rules better than big box stores...and it’s not even close.

    I can’t go out for dinner with my Dad...but 27 kids eating in a class meant for 20...lol
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,435
    My grade 6er has been in full time school all year. my grade 9er is half days. confirmed transmission in schools is super low. and the benefits far outweigh the risks. to call it babysitting is an insult to teachers. 
    Agree.  Though I hope he was simply being derogatory towards the parents with that remark.

    I'll tell you this, my daughter being able to be in school safely during this pandemic has been amazing for her.  She has maintained and built social relationships and had the ever important face to face (eye to eye?) instructor time.  It has taught her to respect risks, plan for them and follow-through (mask usage, distancing, etc) without needing to just be scared.  I'm not always a fan of the schools, but my local one has earned itself a ton of leeway with me moving forward.  How they have handled it and what it has taught the kids that go there is a tremendous value.
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  • My mum  has had the Pfizer  first dose.
    67 years old. So uk has already gone on to the 5th group of people a week ahead of schedule.  I must say its rolling  out. 13.5 million in a country  of 52 million  people  of vaccine  age. 
    Lots of volunteers . I think 50% of all the  people at the sites are volunteers.  Without  them it is not at all possible!
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  • dankinddankind Posts: 20,839
    My children have been hybrid (two half-days in school/other half remote after lunch at home, and three full days remote) since October, and while they are doing just fine academically, they are coming apart at the seams as far as their mental/behavioral health goes.

    I don't think that they are "pussies."
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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336
    My grade 6er has been in full time school all year. my grade 9er is half days. confirmed transmission in schools is super low. and the benefits far outweigh the risks. to call it babysitting is an insult to teachers. 
    Agree.  Though I hope he was simply being derogatory towards the parents with that remark.

    I'll tell you this, my daughter being able to be in school safely during this pandemic has been amazing for her.  She has maintained and built social relationships and had the ever important face to face (eye to eye?) instructor time.  It has taught her to respect risks, plan for them and follow-through (mask usage, distancing, etc) without needing to just be scared.  I'm not always a fan of the schools, but my local one has earned itself a ton of leeway with me moving forward.  How they have handled it and what it has taught the kids that go there is a tremendous value.
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  • They have said on  bbc news that using dextramethasone and a rheumatoid arthritis  drug together  on the  sickest patients  cuts deaths  in half. Thats good news for once.
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739
    They have said on  bbc news that using dextramethasone and a rheumatoid arthritis  drug together  on the  sickest patients  cuts deaths  in half. Thats good news for once.
    Yes, that is very good news...
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