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He makes more in salary than what he makes for the Mets, no?dignin said:
Maher also has an ownership stake in a baseball team. I would take anything he says on the subject with a huge grain of salt.Lerxst1992 said:rgambs said:
I think most of the "inconsistency" is just people, Maher included, failing to understand that some things are essential and others are purely elective. Dipshits on Facebook respond to everything closure related with an angry "but you can still go to Walmart and it's full of people!"nicknyr15 said:
Not arguing with the dangers of reopening too soon. I’m more in agreement about the hypocrisy of the lockdown. This is ok but this isn’t etc...... none of it is consistent.Lerxst1992 said:nicknyr15 said:
Spot on.Ledbetterman10 said:Someone should buy Bill a newspaper, some headlines today-With Cases Rising in 21 States, Washington Turns to Other Business
Coronavirus hospitalizations rise sharply in several states following Memorial Day
Hospitalizations in at least nine states are on the rise; U.S. nears 2 million cases
Coronavirus cases spike again in California; SF restaurants can offer outdoor dining starting Friday
As States Reopen, Cases Surge In Places That Were Once Cold Spots
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Right Jim Bob, it's totally unfair that you can't go to the water park but you can still get groceries and home supplies 🤦♂️Maher has been a tough pill to swallow during this whole restriction period. He has been whining about it non stop. He has a vested interest as his live shows have been canceled.
Just because airlines have been given too much latitude with number of passengers is no reason for him to say he should be able to perform live in an indoor comedy venue.
Many states that opened early are seeing an increase in cases and hospitalizations. And who knows what that will look like in 3 weeks when the impact of protests will be known. Masks and being outdoors can only do so much with this disease. And the US is falling WAY behind in comparison of current cases to the Euro countries that originally had high infections, like Italy, France, UK, etc.0 -
Baseball finances are extremely opaque, but so what? The shutdown costs him money as both a touring comedian and baseball owner.tempo_n_groove said:
He makes more in salary than what he makes for the Mets, no?dignin said:
Maher also has an ownership stake in a baseball team. I would take anything he says on the subject with a huge grain of salt.Lerxst1992 said:rgambs said:
I think most of the "inconsistency" is just people, Maher included, failing to understand that some things are essential and others are purely elective. Dipshits on Facebook respond to everything closure related with an angry "but you can still go to Walmart and it's full of people!"nicknyr15 said:
Not arguing with the dangers of reopening too soon. I’m more in agreement about the hypocrisy of the lockdown. This is ok but this isn’t etc...... none of it is consistent.Lerxst1992 said:nicknyr15 said:
Spot on.Ledbetterman10 said:Someone should buy Bill a newspaper, some headlines today-With Cases Rising in 21 States, Washington Turns to Other Business
Coronavirus hospitalizations rise sharply in several states following Memorial Day
Hospitalizations in at least nine states are on the rise; U.S. nears 2 million cases
Coronavirus cases spike again in California; SF restaurants can offer outdoor dining starting Friday
As States Reopen, Cases Surge In Places That Were Once Cold Spots
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Right Jim Bob, it's totally unfair that you can't go to the water park but you can still get groceries and home supplies 🤦♂️Maher has been a tough pill to swallow during this whole restriction period. He has been whining about it non stop. He has a vested interest as his live shows have been canceled.
Just because airlines have been given too much latitude with number of passengers is no reason for him to say he should be able to perform live in an indoor comedy venue.
Many states that opened early are seeing an increase in cases and hospitalizations. And who knows what that will look like in 3 weeks when the impact of protests will be known. Masks and being outdoors can only do so much with this disease. And the US is falling WAY behind in comparison of current cases to the Euro countries that originally had high infections, like Italy, France, UK, etc.0 -
Yes, I'm tough on baby boomers, I'll admit. They are really disappointing because they held so much promise in the late 60's, but the polarization started in the mid 90's, when men like Clinton, Gingrich, Rush and others came on the scene. It wasn't the WWII generation.brianlux said:JW269453 said:I'm ready for the pager and shitty nokia phone comeback. It is pretty clear that the too much news era coupled with smart phones and social media isn’t healthy human behavior.I'm good with my old flip phone as long as it keeps working. But I do still have this laptop and, because some friends of mine mostly keep in touch via Facebook, I log in there pretty much every day. But with crap I have to wade through there sometimes- whew!mrussel1 said:
24 hour cable news + baby boomers in power = this messJW269453 said:I'm ready for the pager and shitty nokia phone comeback. It is pretty clear that the too much news era coupled with smart phones and social media isn’t healthy human behavior.
"baby boomers in power= this mess"
As a boomer, my first reaction is to be defensive. My more thoughtful reaction is well described by something a fellow boomer said to me recently regarding racism and other long-standing issues: "Weren't we supposed to have changes all this?" Yup- we were going to change the world. Some things did change but honestly, not much. Will the genXers, millenials, GenZers do better? We'll see. I hope so. 0 -
GenX parents, by and large, have been horrible, per my anecdotal evidence over 25 years of teaching and having day to day exposure to the results of their parenting endeavors. The things I have heard, seen, -- even from my own frinds and family members: mainly over-indulgence, permissiveness, my kid is my best friend, over-scheduling, shielding them from any setbacks, etc. One of my GenX friends said, "Well, if you think we're awful, wait until you see what the Millenial parents produce." That's the stage I'm now -- children of the Millenial parents, GenZ. Rising rates of anxiety/depression/suicide being the most alarming trend with this group. Children as props on their social media pages ranks next.mrussel1 said:
Yes, I'm tough on baby boomers, I'll admit. They are really disappointing because they held so much promise in the late 60's, but the polarization started in the mid 90's, when men like Clinton, Gingrich, Rush and others came on the scene. It wasn't the WWII generation.brianlux said:JW269453 said:I'm ready for the pager and shitty nokia phone comeback. It is pretty clear that the too much news era coupled with smart phones and social media isn’t healthy human behavior.I'm good with my old flip phone as long as it keeps working. But I do still have this laptop and, because some friends of mine mostly keep in touch via Facebook, I log in there pretty much every day. But with crap I have to wade through there sometimes- whew!mrussel1 said:
24 hour cable news + baby boomers in power = this messJW269453 said:I'm ready for the pager and shitty nokia phone comeback. It is pretty clear that the too much news era coupled with smart phones and social media isn’t healthy human behavior.
"baby boomers in power= this mess" As a boomer, my first reaction is to be defensive. My more thoughtful reaction is well described by something a fellow boomer said to me recently regarding racism and other long-standing issues: "Weren't we supposed to have changes all this?" Yup- we were going to change the world. Some things did change but honestly, not much. Will the genXers, millenials, GenZers do better? We'll see. I hope so.
Edit: one of my GenX cousins whose kids are now in college said to me once: "A teacher's first and most important job is to make sure that every kid feels special and loved." I retorted: "No, that's your job. My job is to make sure they can read."Post edited by what dreams on0 -
I think it's just that the teachers have gotten way worse.what dreams said:
GenX parents, by and large, have been horrible, per my anecdotal evidence over 25 years of teaching and having day to day exposure to the results of their parenting endeavors. The things I have heard, seen, -- even from my own frinds and family members: mainly over-indulgence, permissiveness, my kid is my best friend, over-scheduling, shielding them from any setbacks, etc. One of my GenX friends said, "Well, if you think we're awful, wait until you see what the Millenial parents produce." That's the stage I'm now -- children of the Millenial parents, GenZ. Rising rates of anxiety/depression/suicide being the most alarming trend with this group. Children as props on their social media pages ranks next.mrussel1 said:
Yes, I'm tough on baby boomers, I'll admit. They are really disappointing because they held so much promise in the late 60's, but the polarization started in the mid 90's, when men like Clinton, Gingrich, Rush and others came on the scene. It wasn't the WWII generation.brianlux said:JW269453 said:I'm ready for the pager and shitty nokia phone comeback. It is pretty clear that the too much news era coupled with smart phones and social media isn’t healthy human behavior.I'm good with my old flip phone as long as it keeps working. But I do still have this laptop and, because some friends of mine mostly keep in touch via Facebook, I log in there pretty much every day. But with crap I have to wade through there sometimes- whew!mrussel1 said:
24 hour cable news + baby boomers in power = this messJW269453 said:I'm ready for the pager and shitty nokia phone comeback. It is pretty clear that the too much news era coupled with smart phones and social media isn’t healthy human behavior.
"baby boomers in power= this mess" As a boomer, my first reaction is to be defensive. My more thoughtful reaction is well described by something a fellow boomer said to me recently regarding racism and other long-standing issues: "Weren't we supposed to have changes all this?" Yup- we were going to change the world. Some things did change but honestly, not much. Will the genXers, millenials, GenZers do better? We'll see. I hope so.
Edit: one of my GenX cousins whose kids are now in college said to me once: "A teacher's first and most important job is to make sure that every kid feels special and loved." I retorted: "No, that's your job. My job is to make sure they can read."hippiemom = goodness0 -
That's interesting. I'm a gen X parent. I'm 47 and my son graduated from HS today, daughter graduated from college last week. I feel like I'm WAY less permissive than my parents. My parents were not boomers, I had old parents (dad born in 27). Mine and my friends parents had no clue what we were up to on a daily basis. We would disappear for days, unaccounted. That would never happen with our kids. We have GPS, I had GPS and data on their driving habits, etc. I know for a fact that my kids were way less wild than me.what dreams said:
GenX parents, by and large, have been horrible, per my anecdotal evidence over 25 years of teaching and having day to day exposure to the results of their parenting endeavors. The things I have heard, seen, -- even from my own frinds and family members: mainly over-indulgence, permissiveness, my kid is my best friend, over-scheduling, shielding them from any setbacks, etc. One of my GenX friends said, "Well, if you think we're awful, wait until you see what the Millenial parents produce." That's the stage I'm now -- children of the Millenial parents, GenZ. Rising rates of anxiety/depression/suicide being the most alarming trend with this group. Children as props on their social media pages ranks next.mrussel1 said:
Yes, I'm tough on baby boomers, I'll admit. They are really disappointing because they held so much promise in the late 60's, but the polarization started in the mid 90's, when men like Clinton, Gingrich, Rush and others came on the scene. It wasn't the WWII generation.brianlux said:JW269453 said:I'm ready for the pager and shitty nokia phone comeback. It is pretty clear that the too much news era coupled with smart phones and social media isn’t healthy human behavior.I'm good with my old flip phone as long as it keeps working. But I do still have this laptop and, because some friends of mine mostly keep in touch via Facebook, I log in there pretty much every day. But with crap I have to wade through there sometimes- whew!mrussel1 said:
24 hour cable news + baby boomers in power = this messJW269453 said:I'm ready for the pager and shitty nokia phone comeback. It is pretty clear that the too much news era coupled with smart phones and social media isn’t healthy human behavior.
"baby boomers in power= this mess" As a boomer, my first reaction is to be defensive. My more thoughtful reaction is well described by something a fellow boomer said to me recently regarding racism and other long-standing issues: "Weren't we supposed to have changes all this?" Yup- we were going to change the world. Some things did change but honestly, not much. Will the genXers, millenials, GenZers do better? We'll see. I hope so.
Regarding the depression/anxiety, I always wonder if that's an awareness/over medicated society issue, rather than kids are actually different. I can say that I was very impressed with both of my older children's friends. They both had high quality friends that supported each other, were anti-bullying, supported gay rights, etc. I'm actually encouraged when I look at the kids I know, and feel good about the future.0 -
Congratulations to your son and daughter!mrussel1 said:
That's interesting. I'm a gen X parent. I'm 47 and my son graduated from HS today, daughter graduated from college last week. I feel like I'm WAY less permissive than my parents. My parents were not boomers, I had old parents (dad born in 27). Mine and my friends parents had no clue what we were up to on a daily basis. We would disappear for days, unaccounted. That would never happen with our kids. We have GPS, I had GPS and data on their driving habits, etc. I know for a fact that my kids were way less wild than me.what dreams said:
GenX parents, by and large, have been horrible, per my anecdotal evidence over 25 years of teaching and having day to day exposure to the results of their parenting endeavors. The things I have heard, seen, -- even from my own frinds and family members: mainly over-indulgence, permissiveness, my kid is my best friend, over-scheduling, shielding them from any setbacks, etc. One of my GenX friends said, "Well, if you think we're awful, wait until you see what the Millenial parents produce." That's the stage I'm now -- children of the Millenial parents, GenZ. Rising rates of anxiety/depression/suicide being the most alarming trend with this group. Children as props on their social media pages ranks next.mrussel1 said:
Yes, I'm tough on baby boomers, I'll admit. They are really disappointing because they held so much promise in the late 60's, but the polarization started in the mid 90's, when men like Clinton, Gingrich, Rush and others came on the scene. It wasn't the WWII generation.brianlux said:JW269453 said:I'm ready for the pager and shitty nokia phone comeback. It is pretty clear that the too much news era coupled with smart phones and social media isn’t healthy human behavior.I'm good with my old flip phone as long as it keeps working. But I do still have this laptop and, because some friends of mine mostly keep in touch via Facebook, I log in there pretty much every day. But with crap I have to wade through there sometimes- whew!mrussel1 said:
24 hour cable news + baby boomers in power = this messJW269453 said:I'm ready for the pager and shitty nokia phone comeback. It is pretty clear that the too much news era coupled with smart phones and social media isn’t healthy human behavior.
"baby boomers in power= this mess" As a boomer, my first reaction is to be defensive. My more thoughtful reaction is well described by something a fellow boomer said to me recently regarding racism and other long-standing issues: "Weren't we supposed to have changes all this?" Yup- we were going to change the world. Some things did change but honestly, not much. Will the genXers, millenials, GenZers do better? We'll see. I hope so.
Regarding the depression/anxiety, I always wonder if that's an awareness/over medicated society issue, rather than kids are actually different. I can say that I was very impressed with both of my older children's friends. They both had high quality friends that supported each other, were anti-bullying, supported gay rights, etc. I'm actually encouraged when I look at the kids I know, and feel good about the future.
i agree with much of what you said (and how often does THAT happen??). My kid is 20 and in the third year of a university degree. I have been impressed with the thoughtfulness, intelligence, work ethic and engagement of almost all of the friends I’ve met or heard of. I just don’t see the issues that some complain of.my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0 -
Oh, yes, I have another life-long friend who GPS's her kids. I told her she was nuts. I asked her how she would have liked it if her parents put an ankle bracelet on her when she was young? How would you be a different adult today if you didn't have the freedom to go out and do wreckless, irresponsible stuff and develop resiliency and resourcefulness on her own?mrussel1 said:
That's interesting. I'm a gen X parent. I'm 47 and my son graduated from HS today, daughter graduated from college last week. I feel like I'm WAY less permissive than my parents. My parents were not boomers, I had old parents (dad born in 27). Mine and my friends parents had no clue what we were up to on a daily basis. We would disappear for days, unaccounted. That would never happen with our kids. We have GPS, I had GPS and data on their driving habits, etc. I know for a fact that my kids were way less wild than me.what dreams said:
GenX parents, by and large, have been horrible, per my anecdotal evidence over 25 years of teaching and having day to day exposure to the results of their parenting endeavors. The things I have heard, seen, -- even from my own frinds and family members: mainly over-indulgence, permissiveness, my kid is my best friend, over-scheduling, shielding them from any setbacks, etc. One of my GenX friends said, "Well, if you think we're awful, wait until you see what the Millenial parents produce." That's the stage I'm now -- children of the Millenial parents, GenZ. Rising rates of anxiety/depression/suicide being the most alarming trend with this group. Children as props on their social media pages ranks next.mrussel1 said:
Yes, I'm tough on baby boomers, I'll admit. They are really disappointing because they held so much promise in the late 60's, but the polarization started in the mid 90's, when men like Clinton, Gingrich, Rush and others came on the scene. It wasn't the WWII generation.brianlux said:JW269453 said:I'm ready for the pager and shitty nokia phone comeback. It is pretty clear that the too much news era coupled with smart phones and social media isn’t healthy human behavior.I'm good with my old flip phone as long as it keeps working. But I do still have this laptop and, because some friends of mine mostly keep in touch via Facebook, I log in there pretty much every day. But with crap I have to wade through there sometimes- whew!mrussel1 said:
24 hour cable news + baby boomers in power = this messJW269453 said:I'm ready for the pager and shitty nokia phone comeback. It is pretty clear that the too much news era coupled with smart phones and social media isn’t healthy human behavior.
"baby boomers in power= this mess" As a boomer, my first reaction is to be defensive. My more thoughtful reaction is well described by something a fellow boomer said to me recently regarding racism and other long-standing issues: "Weren't we supposed to have changes all this?" Yup- we were going to change the world. Some things did change but honestly, not much. Will the genXers, millenials, GenZers do better? We'll see. I hope so.
Regarding the depression/anxiety, I always wonder if that's an awareness/over medicated society issue, rather than kids are actually different. I can say that I was very impressed with both of my older children's friends. They both had high quality friends that supported each other, were anti-bullying, supported gay rights, etc. I'm actually encouraged when I look at the kids I know, and feel good about the future.
Here I was, supposedly having a a rare adult lunch with her alone while both her teenaged children were out, and she spent the whole time tracking her child's car on her phone (I'm sorry, this is just nuts to me. It's a form of control I do not understand) When she discovered the kid was at a place she hadn't told her mom about, my friend interrupted our adult lunch to call her child and demand she come home immediately. Yelling and resistance ensued -- when the kid finally arrived home, she said something about "reporting back to prison" before storming to her room and slamming the door. This was two summers ago -- Gen Z child born to an older Gen X mom. And yes, you guess it, this helicoptered kid tried to kill herself twice.
Regarding awareness vs different issue -- I can tell you, in my first years of teaching, I've never had students admitted to mental health facilities or panic attacks in the classroom over the "trauma" of getting a B on a test, or cutting themselves starting in elementary school. In the past decade, I've got at least one and sometimes 3-4 kids a year who have all out mental breakdowns. I believe it's Jeanne Twenge who has done the prominent research on the rise of this phenomenon. According to her research, it's real.0 -
I should add I didn’t do any sort of GPS tracking. I don’t agree with that part. Life is about taking risks and figuring out which ones work out and how to assess each situation.my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0
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Oh yes, everyone's own child is the epitome of all things perfect. I would give it a 90% or higher when asking parents to sel-report on their own child. Even my friends who agree with me don't see that they do it with their own children. One such friend allowed her child to wear princess outfits every day -- to school, the store, everywhere. One day the child was having a complete temper tantrum, and then my friend, of course, caved to her child's demands. I had to say to her, "Well, when you dress her up in a princess outfit everyday, she will begin to think she's a princess."
For the record, I do still have friends
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mrussel1 said:
Yes, I'm tough on baby boomers, I'll admit. They are really disappointing because they held so much promise in the late 60's, but the polarization started in the mid 90's, when men like Clinton, Gingrich, Rush and others came on the scene. It wasn't the WWII generation.brianlux said:JW269453 said:I'm ready for the pager and shitty nokia phone comeback. It is pretty clear that the too much news era coupled with smart phones and social media isn’t healthy human behavior.I'm good with my old flip phone as long as it keeps working. But I do still have this laptop and, because some friends of mine mostly keep in touch via Facebook, I log in there pretty much every day. But with crap I have to wade through there sometimes- whew!mrussel1 said:
24 hour cable news + baby boomers in power = this messJW269453 said:I'm ready for the pager and shitty nokia phone comeback. It is pretty clear that the too much news era coupled with smart phones and social media isn’t healthy human behavior.
"baby boomers in power= this mess" As a boomer, my first reaction is to be defensive. My more thoughtful reaction is well described by something a fellow boomer said to me recently regarding racism and other long-standing issues: "Weren't we supposed to have changes all this?" Yup- we were going to change the world. Some things did change but honestly, not much. Will the genXers, millenials, GenZers do better? We'll see. I hope so. Here's my take (and I use the word "we" in a very generalized sense here. Personally, I dipped into and then dropped out of this generational norm of my generation along time ago):Basically what happen is you had the luckiest generation (we grew up in a bubble of relative wealth among a marvelous explosion of rich cultural innovation) that has or possibly will ever live on earth. At the same time, this group of people were well to exceptionally well educated (my first full load tuition at a state university was $50) and were highly motivated by our ideals to fight against an unjust war in Vietnam and support efforts to end racism in the wake of the Civil Rights Movement.As much as our idealism was often genuine, our relatively cushy life style was not something we were going to let go of and so we found ourselves working in places like Silicon Valley or Aerojet or IBM, etc., making good money, being DINKs (dual income, no kids) or having just one or two kids, buying nice suburban homes, living the life, all the while giving lip-service to the ideals we were once passionate about.The generations that followed have increasing had to- and will have to- struggle more to get by. I think the outcome of all this will inevitably lead to one of two paths: either successful social and environmental change, or a total breakdown of civility with occasional burst of anarchist or near anarchist clashes with an increasingly militant government. I'm hoping for the former."It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
I wanted to check my reference on Jean Twenge to remember if she was the psychologist studying generational changes in mood disorders, and my memory is correct.
I have not read her most recently popular book on the effect of digital technology (IGen: Why Super Connected Kids are Growing Up Less Rebellious, More Tolerant, Less Happy, and Completely Unprepared for Adulthood). I did read two of her other books, Generation Me and The Narcissism Epidemic: Living in the Age of Entitlement.
In Generation Me, she discusses the change in parenting over time, where previous generations (Boomer parents) essentially ran an adult-centered household where decisions were made based on what the parents needed and wanted. Subsequent generations (GenX and forward) began running child-centered households and parents' decisions and social activities and frienship circles are made through their children. Basically, in our day (the 70s for me), our parents had lives apart from us. They loved and provided for us, but they did not define their existence by their children's activities and accomplishments. This is just not true anymore, and the evidence seems apparent to me everywhere.
Here is a link to an article about the mental health issue which suggests that the rise in disorders is due to a "generational shift."
https://www.apa.org/pubs/journals/releases/abn-abn0000410.pdf
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mrussel1 said:
That's interesting. I'm a gen X parent. I'm 47 and my son graduated from HS today, daughter graduated from college last week. I feel like I'm WAY less permissive than my parents. My parents were not boomers, I had old parents (dad born in 27). Mine and my friends parents had no clue what we were up to on a daily basis. We would disappear for days, unaccounted. That would never happen with our kids. We have GPS, I had GPS and data on their driving habits, etc. I know for a fact that my kids were way less wild than me.what dreams said:
GenX parents, by and large, have been horrible, per my anecdotal evidence over 25 years of teaching and having day to day exposure to the results of their parenting endeavors. The things I have heard, seen, -- even from my own frinds and family members: mainly over-indulgence, permissiveness, my kid is my best friend, over-scheduling, shielding them from any setbacks, etc. One of my GenX friends said, "Well, if you think we're awful, wait until you see what the Millenial parents produce." That's the stage I'm now -- children of the Millenial parents, GenZ. Rising rates of anxiety/depression/suicide being the most alarming trend with this group. Children as props on their social media pages ranks next.mrussel1 said:
Yes, I'm tough on baby boomers, I'll admit. They are really disappointing because they held so much promise in the late 60's, but the polarization started in the mid 90's, when men like Clinton, Gingrich, Rush and others came on the scene. It wasn't the WWII generation.brianlux said:JW269453 said:I'm ready for the pager and shitty nokia phone comeback. It is pretty clear that the too much news era coupled with smart phones and social media isn’t healthy human behavior.I'm good with my old flip phone as long as it keeps working. But I do still have this laptop and, because some friends of mine mostly keep in touch via Facebook, I log in there pretty much every day. But with crap I have to wade through there sometimes- whew!mrussel1 said:
24 hour cable news + baby boomers in power = this messJW269453 said:I'm ready for the pager and shitty nokia phone comeback. It is pretty clear that the too much news era coupled with smart phones and social media isn’t healthy human behavior.
"baby boomers in power= this mess" As a boomer, my first reaction is to be defensive. My more thoughtful reaction is well described by something a fellow boomer said to me recently regarding racism and other long-standing issues: "Weren't we supposed to have changes all this?" Yup- we were going to change the world. Some things did change but honestly, not much. Will the genXers, millenials, GenZers do better? We'll see. I hope so.
Regarding the depression/anxiety, I always wonder if that's an awareness/over medicated society issue, rather than kids are actually different. I can say that I was very impressed with both of my older children's friends. They both had high quality friends that supported each other, were anti-bullying, supported gay rights, etc. I'm actually encouraged when I look at the kids I know, and feel good about the future.Congrats! Man you are a young parent!
When we were growing up in the 70s, we would run thru the woods for hours on end. Play unsupervised in new home foundations under construction. bb guns. Dangerous games with rocks. Not exactly safe.
My parents left the big city for the suburbs which were considered an oasis back then from crime and other urban challenges, so that gave them a false sense of comfort to allow kids to play for hours unsupervised.
Since then, the suburbs have become less safe as crime and gangs have evolved well outside the big cities.0 -
You need to deal with your children based on what they shown you. The situation with my son was different than my daughter, therefore the control structure was different. Be careful in saying something is nuts when you don't know the personal challenges. It would be irresponsible not to do certain things just because you think they should fail. Sometimes that failure can be irreversible.oftenreading said:I should add I didn’t do any sort of GPS tracking. I don’t agree with that part. Life is about taking risks and figuring out which ones work out and how to assess each situation.0 -
Because I knew my son wasn't perfect is precisely why I had to control aspects of his life more than I would have wanted.what dreams said:Oh yes, everyone's own child is the epitome of all things perfect. I would give it a 90% or higher when asking parents to sel-report on their own child. Even my friends who agree with me don't see that they do it with their own children. One such friend allowed her child to wear princess outfits every day -- to school, the store, everywhere. One day the child was having a complete temper tantrum, and then my friend, of course, caved to her child's demands. I had to say to her, "Well, when you dress her up in a princess outfit everyday, she will begin to think she's a princess."
For the record, I do still have friends. 0 -
We had bottle rocket wars, Roman candle wars, BB gun fights, the whole deal. We were total idiots. And my father taught us all of those things. RidiculousLerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:
That's interesting. I'm a gen X parent. I'm 47 and my son graduated from HS today, daughter graduated from college last week. I feel like I'm WAY less permissive than my parents. My parents were not boomers, I had old parents (dad born in 27). Mine and my friends parents had no clue what we were up to on a daily basis. We would disappear for days, unaccounted. That would never happen with our kids. We have GPS, I had GPS and data on their driving habits, etc. I know for a fact that my kids were way less wild than me.what dreams said:
GenX parents, by and large, have been horrible, per my anecdotal evidence over 25 years of teaching and having day to day exposure to the results of their parenting endeavors. The things I have heard, seen, -- even from my own frinds and family members: mainly over-indulgence, permissiveness, my kid is my best friend, over-scheduling, shielding them from any setbacks, etc. One of my GenX friends said, "Well, if you think we're awful, wait until you see what the Millenial parents produce." That's the stage I'm now -- children of the Millenial parents, GenZ. Rising rates of anxiety/depression/suicide being the most alarming trend with this group. Children as props on their social media pages ranks next.mrussel1 said:
Yes, I'm tough on baby boomers, I'll admit. They are really disappointing because they held so much promise in the late 60's, but the polarization started in the mid 90's, when men like Clinton, Gingrich, Rush and others came on the scene. It wasn't the WWII generation.brianlux said:JW269453 said:I'm ready for the pager and shitty nokia phone comeback. It is pretty clear that the too much news era coupled with smart phones and social media isn’t healthy human behavior.I'm good with my old flip phone as long as it keeps working. But I do still have this laptop and, because some friends of mine mostly keep in touch via Facebook, I log in there pretty much every day. But with crap I have to wade through there sometimes- whew!mrussel1 said:
24 hour cable news + baby boomers in power = this messJW269453 said:I'm ready for the pager and shitty nokia phone comeback. It is pretty clear that the too much news era coupled with smart phones and social media isn’t healthy human behavior.
"baby boomers in power= this mess" As a boomer, my first reaction is to be defensive. My more thoughtful reaction is well described by something a fellow boomer said to me recently regarding racism and other long-standing issues: "Weren't we supposed to have changes all this?" Yup- we were going to change the world. Some things did change but honestly, not much. Will the genXers, millenials, GenZers do better? We'll see. I hope so.
Regarding the depression/anxiety, I always wonder if that's an awareness/over medicated society issue, rather than kids are actually different. I can say that I was very impressed with both of my older children's friends. They both had high quality friends that supported each other, were anti-bullying, supported gay rights, etc. I'm actually encouraged when I look at the kids I know, and feel good about the future.Congrats! Man you are a young parent!
When we were growing up in the 70s, we would run thru the woods for hours on end. Play unsupervised in new home foundations under construction. bb guns. Dangerous games with rocks. Not exactly safe.
My parents left the big city for the suburbs which were considered an oasis back then from crime and other urban challenges, so that gave them a false sense of comfort to allow kids to play for hours unsupervised.
Since then, the suburbs have become less safe as crime and gangs have evolved well outside the big cities.
Thanks for the congrats. I do have a 12 year old left. It's funny, she's such a wonderful little girl, studious and artistic, that we sometimes forget about her in the evening. It's like we're empty nesters at 47.0 -
I don’t believe I said anywhere in there it was nuts.mrussel1 said:
You need to deal with your children based on what they shown you. The situation with my son was different than my daughter, therefore the control structure was different. Be careful in saying something is nuts when you don't know the personal challenges. It would be irresponsible not to do certain things just because you think they should fail. Sometimes that failure can be irreversible.oftenreading said:I should add I didn’t do any sort of GPS tracking. I don’t agree with that part. Life is about taking risks and figuring out which ones work out and how to assess each situation.my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0 -
Sorry, that was What Dreamsoftenreading said:
I don’t believe I said anywhere in there it was nuts.mrussel1 said:
You need to deal with your children based on what they shown you. The situation with my son was different than my daughter, therefore the control structure was different. Be careful in saying something is nuts when you don't know the personal challenges. It would be irresponsible not to do certain things just because you think they should fail. Sometimes that failure can be irreversible.oftenreading said:I should add I didn’t do any sort of GPS tracking. I don’t agree with that part. Life is about taking risks and figuring out which ones work out and how to assess each situation.0 -
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