The coronavirus

Ledbetterman10

tempo_n_groove said:

With the protests going on you have a lot of PO'd people that stayed home and and listened but nobody is really talking about all the people in the streets.

I really hope there isn't another outbreak.  If there isn't it will seem like a proven conspiracy to a bunch of people.

If there isn't an outbreak, I guess maybe the virus could be waning with the change of season like similar viruses do. Or maybe a bit of a herd-immunity is developing among younger people? I don't know. I think it's probably going to spread like wildfire in big cities. There's been hundreds-to-thousands of people in the streets for over a week in some places. 

As for the bolded part, you know why people aren't talking about it. If you were to say how mind-numbingly stupid it is that we went from a lockdown and phased re-openings to thousands of people in the streets, you might be chastised for not being angry enough over the Floyd murder and police brutality. 

tempo_n_groove

Ledbetterman10 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

With the protests going on you have a lot of PO'd people that stayed home and and listened but nobody is really talking about all the people in the streets.

I really hope there isn't another outbreak.  If there isn't it will seem like a proven conspiracy to a bunch of people.

If there isn't an outbreak, I guess maybe the virus could be waning with the change of season like similar viruses do. Or maybe a bit of a herd-immunity is developing among younger people? I don't know. I think it's probably going to spread like wildfire in big cities. There's been hundreds-to-thousands of people in the streets for over a week in some places. 

As for the bolded part, you know why people aren't talking about it. If you were to say how mind-numbingly stupid it is that we went from a lockdown and phased re-openings to thousands of people in the streets, you might be chastised for not being angry enough over the Floyd murder and police brutality. 

You can be angry and still be careful.

If they are wearing masks then I am all for it!

Spiritual_Chaos

Most cases in a single day today, according to the WHO.

mrussel1

tempo_n_groove said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

With the protests going on you have a lot of PO'd people that stayed home and and listened but nobody is really talking about all the people in the streets.

I really hope there isn't another outbreak.  If there isn't it will seem like a proven conspiracy to a bunch of people.

If there isn't an outbreak, I guess maybe the virus could be waning with the change of season like similar viruses do. Or maybe a bit of a herd-immunity is developing among younger people? I don't know. I think it's probably going to spread like wildfire in big cities. There's been hundreds-to-thousands of people in the streets for over a week in some places. 

As for the bolded part, you know why people aren't talking about it. If you were to say how mind-numbingly stupid it is that we went from a lockdown and phased re-openings to thousands of people in the streets, you might be chastised for not being angry enough over the Floyd murder and police brutality. 

You can be angry and still be careful.

If they are wearing masks then I am all for it!

My two oldest children went down to the Robert E Lee statute to protest, then march downtown last week.  They told me it was peaceful and most people were wearing masks.  They said it was the cops, generally, without the masks. 

tempo_n_groove

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

With the protests going on you have a lot of PO'd people that stayed home and and listened but nobody is really talking about all the people in the streets.

I really hope there isn't another outbreak.  If there isn't it will seem like a proven conspiracy to a bunch of people.

If there isn't an outbreak, I guess maybe the virus could be waning with the change of season like similar viruses do. Or maybe a bit of a herd-immunity is developing among younger people? I don't know. I think it's probably going to spread like wildfire in big cities. There's been hundreds-to-thousands of people in the streets for over a week in some places. 

As for the bolded part, you know why people aren't talking about it. If you were to say how mind-numbingly stupid it is that we went from a lockdown and phased re-openings to thousands of people in the streets, you might be chastised for not being angry enough over the Floyd murder and police brutality. 

You can be angry and still be careful.

If they are wearing masks then I am all for it!

My two oldest children went down to the Robert E Lee statute to protest, then march downtown last week.  They told me it was peaceful and most people were wearing masks.  They said it was the cops, generally, without the masks. 

I thought they were putting signs up to explain how and why the statues were built to preserve them and let the public know how they came to be?

Or was that a pipe dream and that shit never happened?

Ledbetterman10

tempo_n_groove said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

With the protests going on you have a lot of PO'd people that stayed home and and listened but nobody is really talking about all the people in the streets.

I really hope there isn't another outbreak.  If there isn't it will seem like a proven conspiracy to a bunch of people.

If there isn't an outbreak, I guess maybe the virus could be waning with the change of season like similar viruses do. Or maybe a bit of a herd-immunity is developing among younger people? I don't know. I think it's probably going to spread like wildfire in big cities. There's been hundreds-to-thousands of people in the streets for over a week in some places. 

As for the bolded part, you know why people aren't talking about it. If you were to say how mind-numbingly stupid it is that we went from a lockdown and phased re-openings to thousands of people in the streets, you might be chastised for not being angry enough over the Floyd murder and police brutality. 

You can be angry and still be careful.

If they are wearing masks then I am all for it!

Yeah most people are wearing masks it seems. Yet my friend still can't have a single person in her beauty saloon (with or without masks). And of course there's other businesses still waiting to reopen as well. But why? If thousands can gather in the streets and it's okay because they're wearing masks, why can't that apply to everyone? The "indoor versus outdoor" aspect maybe? 

SHZA

Ledbetterman10 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

With the protests going on you have a lot of PO'd people that stayed home and and listened but nobody is really talking about all the people in the streets.

I really hope there isn't another outbreak.  If there isn't it will seem like a proven conspiracy to a bunch of people.

If there isn't an outbreak, I guess maybe the virus could be waning with the change of season like similar viruses do. Or maybe a bit of a herd-immunity is developing among younger people? I don't know. I think it's probably going to spread like wildfire in big cities. There's been hundreds-to-thousands of people in the streets for over a week in some places. 

As for the bolded part, you know why people aren't talking about it. If you were to say how mind-numbingly stupid it is that we went from a lockdown and phased re-openings to thousands of people in the streets, you might be chastised for not being angry enough over the Floyd murder and police brutality. 

You can be angry and still be careful.

If they are wearing masks then I am all for it!

Yeah most people are wearing masks it seems. Yet my friend still can't have a single person in her beauty saloon (with or without masks). And of course there's other businesses still waiting to reopen as well. But why? If thousands can gather in the streets and it's okay because they're wearing masks, why can't that apply to everyone? The "indoor versus outdoor" aspect maybe? 

There's no practical way to ban thousands of people from gathering in the street even if it were justified from a public health perspective, particularly in light of the reason for the protests. 

Ledbetterman10

SHZA said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

With the protests going on you have a lot of PO'd people that stayed home and and listened but nobody is really talking about all the people in the streets.

I really hope there isn't another outbreak.  If there isn't it will seem like a proven conspiracy to a bunch of people.

If there isn't an outbreak, I guess maybe the virus could be waning with the change of season like similar viruses do. Or maybe a bit of a herd-immunity is developing among younger people? I don't know. I think it's probably going to spread like wildfire in big cities. There's been hundreds-to-thousands of people in the streets for over a week in some places. 

As for the bolded part, you know why people aren't talking about it. If you were to say how mind-numbingly stupid it is that we went from a lockdown and phased re-openings to thousands of people in the streets, you might be chastised for not being angry enough over the Floyd murder and police brutality. 

You can be angry and still be careful.

If they are wearing masks then I am all for it!

Yeah most people are wearing masks it seems. Yet my friend still can't have a single person in her beauty saloon (with or without masks). And of course there's other businesses still waiting to reopen as well. But why? If thousands can gather in the streets and it's okay because they're wearing masks, why can't that apply to everyone? The "indoor versus outdoor" aspect maybe? 

There's no practical way to ban thousands of people from gathering in the street even if it were justified from a public health perspective, particularly in light of the reason for the protests. 

I understand that. 

mrussel1

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

With the protests going on you have a lot of PO'd people that stayed home and and listened but nobody is really talking about all the people in the streets.

I really hope there isn't another outbreak.  If there isn't it will seem like a proven conspiracy to a bunch of people.

If there isn't an outbreak, I guess maybe the virus could be waning with the change of season like similar viruses do. Or maybe a bit of a herd-immunity is developing among younger people? I don't know. I think it's probably going to spread like wildfire in big cities. There's been hundreds-to-thousands of people in the streets for over a week in some places. 

As for the bolded part, you know why people aren't talking about it. If you were to say how mind-numbingly stupid it is that we went from a lockdown and phased re-openings to thousands of people in the streets, you might be chastised for not being angry enough over the Floyd murder and police brutality. 

You can be angry and still be careful.

If they are wearing masks then I am all for it!

My two oldest children went down to the Robert E Lee statute to protest, then march downtown last week.  They told me it was peaceful and most people were wearing masks.  They said it was the cops, generally, without the masks. 

I thought they were putting signs up to explain how and why the statues were built to preserve them and let the public know how they came to be?

Or was that a pipe dream and that shit never happened?

Hmm.  I'm not sure.  I don't usually stop and read them.  They are in the middle of a fairly busy road (Monument Ave.).  The mayor is black and he said a year ago or so that they were commissioning a study about how to relocate them to a museum setting in the city.  

Ledbetterman10

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

With the protests going on you have a lot of PO'd people that stayed home and and listened but nobody is really talking about all the people in the streets.

I really hope there isn't another outbreak.  If there isn't it will seem like a proven conspiracy to a bunch of people.

If there isn't an outbreak, I guess maybe the virus could be waning with the change of season like similar viruses do. Or maybe a bit of a herd-immunity is developing among younger people? I don't know. I think it's probably going to spread like wildfire in big cities. There's been hundreds-to-thousands of people in the streets for over a week in some places. 

As for the bolded part, you know why people aren't talking about it. If you were to say how mind-numbingly stupid it is that we went from a lockdown and phased re-openings to thousands of people in the streets, you might be chastised for not being angry enough over the Floyd murder and police brutality. 

You can be angry and still be careful.

If they are wearing masks then I am all for it!

My two oldest children went down to the Robert E Lee statute to protest, then march downtown last week.  They told me it was peaceful and most people were wearing masks.  They said it was the cops, generally, without the masks. 

I thought they were putting signs up to explain how and why the statues were built to preserve them and let the public know how they came to be?

Or was that a pipe dream and that shit never happened?

Hmm.  I'm not sure.  I don't usually stop and read them.  They are in the middle of a fairly busy road (Monument Ave.).  The mayor is black and he said a year ago or so that they were commissioning a study about how to relocate them to a museum setting in the city.  

Didn't they recently rename a school named after Lee down there? That friend I was referencing last week when we were discussing the Civil War said that was a big debate locally about a year ago. 

OnWis97

I'm not loving the headline related to asymptomatic.  A lot of people are reading "rare" as "impossible." And then there's pre-symtomatic.  I'm still masking.  Do I look silly? Oh well.  At this point, it can't hurt; could help.

mrussel1

Ledbetterman10 said:

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

With the protests going on you have a lot of PO'd people that stayed home and and listened but nobody is really talking about all the people in the streets.

I really hope there isn't another outbreak.  If there isn't it will seem like a proven conspiracy to a bunch of people.

If there isn't an outbreak, I guess maybe the virus could be waning with the change of season like similar viruses do. Or maybe a bit of a herd-immunity is developing among younger people? I don't know. I think it's probably going to spread like wildfire in big cities. There's been hundreds-to-thousands of people in the streets for over a week in some places. 

As for the bolded part, you know why people aren't talking about it. If you were to say how mind-numbingly stupid it is that we went from a lockdown and phased re-openings to thousands of people in the streets, you might be chastised for not being angry enough over the Floyd murder and police brutality. 

You can be angry and still be careful.

If they are wearing masks then I am all for it!

My two oldest children went down to the Robert E Lee statute to protest, then march downtown last week.  They told me it was peaceful and most people were wearing masks.  They said it was the cops, generally, without the masks. 

I thought they were putting signs up to explain how and why the statues were built to preserve them and let the public know how they came to be?

Or was that a pipe dream and that shit never happened?

Hmm.  I'm not sure.  I don't usually stop and read them.  They are in the middle of a fairly busy road (Monument Ave.).  The mayor is black and he said a year ago or so that they were commissioning a study about how to relocate them to a museum setting in the city.  

Didn't they recently rename a school named after Lee down there? That friend I was referencing last week when we were discussing the Civil War said that was a big debate locally about a year ago. 

If a school was renamed, it would be a county decision and there are plenty of rural counties here that still revere the old south, but not in the city or the local suburbs.  Byrd MS (named after infamous segregationist governor Henry Byrd) was renamed a few years ago.  In a county that is republican and sort of straddles urban and rural, there is Lee-Davis HS.  It's actually where my wife went to HS.  It's been named that for years and years.  It's feeder school is Stonewall Jackson Middle School.  So it's definitely still around, but not in Richmond city or Henrico County where the suburban money is. I bet Lee-Davis is the school your friend is thinking of, but it's not a new name. There was big debate about renaming, but it hasn't happened.  It needs to happen. 

tempo_n_groove

mrussel1 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

With the protests going on you have a lot of PO'd people that stayed home and and listened but nobody is really talking about all the people in the streets.

I really hope there isn't another outbreak.  If there isn't it will seem like a proven conspiracy to a bunch of people.

If there isn't an outbreak, I guess maybe the virus could be waning with the change of season like similar viruses do. Or maybe a bit of a herd-immunity is developing among younger people? I don't know. I think it's probably going to spread like wildfire in big cities. There's been hundreds-to-thousands of people in the streets for over a week in some places. 

As for the bolded part, you know why people aren't talking about it. If you were to say how mind-numbingly stupid it is that we went from a lockdown and phased re-openings to thousands of people in the streets, you might be chastised for not being angry enough over the Floyd murder and police brutality. 

You can be angry and still be careful.

If they are wearing masks then I am all for it!

My two oldest children went down to the Robert E Lee statute to protest, then march downtown last week.  They told me it was peaceful and most people were wearing masks.  They said it was the cops, generally, without the masks. 

I thought they were putting signs up to explain how and why the statues were built to preserve them and let the public know how they came to be?

Or was that a pipe dream and that shit never happened?

Hmm.  I'm not sure.  I don't usually stop and read them.  They are in the middle of a fairly busy road (Monument Ave.).  The mayor is black and he said a year ago or so that they were commissioning a study about how to relocate them to a museum setting in the city.  

Didn't they recently rename a school named after Lee down there? That friend I was referencing last week when we were discussing the Civil War said that was a big debate locally about a year ago. 

If a school was renamed, it would be a county decision and there are plenty of rural counties here that still revere the old south, but not in the city or the local suburbs.  Byrd MS (named after infamous segregationist governor Henry Byrd) was renamed a few years ago.  In a county that is republican and sort of straddles urban and rural, there is Lee-Davis HS.  It's actually where my wife went to HS.  It's been named that for years and years.  It's feeder school is Stonewall Jackson Middle School.  So it's definitely still around, but not in Richmond city or Henrico County where the suburban money is. I bet Lee-Davis is the school your friend is thinking of, but it's not a new name. There was big debate about renaming, but it hasn't happened.  It needs to happen. 

In another life I lived in Lee County Va.  I could only imagine that it's named after Robert and not Bruce?

Ledbetterman10

mrussel1 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

With the protests going on you have a lot of PO'd people that stayed home and and listened but nobody is really talking about all the people in the streets.

I really hope there isn't another outbreak.  If there isn't it will seem like a proven conspiracy to a bunch of people.

If there isn't an outbreak, I guess maybe the virus could be waning with the change of season like similar viruses do. Or maybe a bit of a herd-immunity is developing among younger people? I don't know. I think it's probably going to spread like wildfire in big cities. There's been hundreds-to-thousands of people in the streets for over a week in some places. 

As for the bolded part, you know why people aren't talking about it. If you were to say how mind-numbingly stupid it is that we went from a lockdown and phased re-openings to thousands of people in the streets, you might be chastised for not being angry enough over the Floyd murder and police brutality. 

You can be angry and still be careful.

If they are wearing masks then I am all for it!

My two oldest children went down to the Robert E Lee statute to protest, then march downtown last week.  They told me it was peaceful and most people were wearing masks.  They said it was the cops, generally, without the masks. 

I thought they were putting signs up to explain how and why the statues were built to preserve them and let the public know how they came to be?

Or was that a pipe dream and that shit never happened?

Hmm.  I'm not sure.  I don't usually stop and read them.  They are in the middle of a fairly busy road (Monument Ave.).  The mayor is black and he said a year ago or so that they were commissioning a study about how to relocate them to a museum setting in the city.  

Didn't they recently rename a school named after Lee down there? That friend I was referencing last week when we were discussing the Civil War said that was a big debate locally about a year ago. 

If a school was renamed, it would be a county decision and there are plenty of rural counties here that still revere the old south, but not in the city or the local suburbs.  Byrd MS (named after infamous segregationist governor Henry Byrd) was renamed a few years ago.  In a county that is republican and sort of straddles urban and rural, there is Lee-Davis HS.  It's actually where my wife went to HS.  It's been named that for years and years.  It's feeder school is Stonewall Jackson Middle School.  So it's definitely still around, but not in Richmond city or Henrico County where the suburban money is. I bet Lee-Davis is the school your friend is thinking of, but it's not a new name. There was big debate about renaming, but it hasn't happened.  It needs to happen. 

Yep, Lee-Davis. 

bbiggs

More confusion from the WHO. Clear as mud.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/06/09/asymptomatic-coronavirus-spread-who/%3foutputType=amp

brianlux

OnWis97 said:

I'm not loving the headline related to asymptomatic.  A lot of people are reading "rare" as "impossible." And then there's pre-symtomatic.  I'm still masking.  Do I look silly? Oh well.  At this point, it can't hurt; could help.

Same here.  I don't go out much because I'm in a couple high risk categories, but my wife isn't and we both wear masks if we have to go out.  Why not!?!  It's a minor precaution and may only make a small difference,  but in a pandemic, why wouldn't someone wear a mask, especially if it's just to go into the grocery store or hardware store or pharmacy?  It's no big deal, certainly no big sacrifice, and if it helps one tiny bit, that's a plus.  I get angry seeing lots of people who are either too vain or too selfish to put on a mask in public.

dankind

brianlux said:

OnWis97 said:

I'm not loving the headline related to asymptomatic.  A lot of people are reading "rare" as "impossible." And then there's pre-symtomatic.  I'm still masking.  Do I look silly? Oh well.  At this point, it can't hurt; could help.

Same here.  I don't go out much because I'm in a couple high risk categories, but my wife isn't and we both wear masks if we have to go out.  Why not!?!  It's a minor precaution and may only make a small difference,  but in a pandemic, why wouldn't someone wear a mask, especially if it's just to go into the grocery store or hardware store or pharmacy?  It's no big deal, certainly no big sacrifice, and if it helps one tiny bit, that's a plus.  I get angry seeing lots of people who are either too vain or too selfish to put on a mask in public.

Aesthetically, a mask is definitely an improvement for me. 

brianlux

dankind said:

brianlux said:

OnWis97 said:

I'm not loving the headline related to asymptomatic.  A lot of people are reading "rare" as "impossible." And then there's pre-symtomatic.  I'm still masking.  Do I look silly? Oh well.  At this point, it can't hurt; could help.

Same here.  I don't go out much because I'm in a couple high risk categories, but my wife isn't and we both wear masks if we have to go out.  Why not!?!  It's a minor precaution and may only make a small difference,  but in a pandemic, why wouldn't someone wear a mask, especially if it's just to go into the grocery store or hardware store or pharmacy?  It's no big deal, certainly no big sacrifice, and if it helps one tiny bit, that's a plus.  I get angry seeing lots of people who are either too vain or too selfish to put on a mask in public.

Aesthetically, a mask is definitely an improvement for me. 

LOL, for me especially right now as I tried self-cryotherapy (freezing with liquid nitrogen) on an age spot on my jaw.  The liquid nitrogen spray spread farther than I wanted and made a big red patch the size of a quarter.  It will eventually peel and be OK but I won't try that again.  That stuff is dangerous.  I can't believe you can buy that stuff!

Ledbetterman10

Excellent....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqSARDDdlsw&t=16s

brianlux

Ledbetterman10 said:

Excellent....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqSARDDdlsw&t=16s

Bravo, Bill!